After lots of surfing for a Sieg X3 (no Super X3s for love or money)
the Grizzly G0463 Mill / Drill at http://www.grizzly.com/products/G0463
comes to $1,014.25, with shipping.

I looked at the Rong Fu RF-45 and other similar models. The Sieg has
a lower overall height, which makes it a better "fit" into the available
space. Also, about 400 lbs for the X3 vs. about 800 lbs for the RF sorta
shades my view.

Thanks for the comments, even though I'm unable to take advantage of
all the advise.

Louis Ohland wrote:
After lots of surfing for a Sieg X3 (no Super X3s for love or money)
the Grizzly G0463 Mill / Drill at http://www.grizzly.com/products/G0463
comes to $1,014.25, with shipping.

I looked at the Rong Fu RF-45 and other similar models. The Sieg has a
lower overall height, which makes it a better "fit" into the available
space. Also, about 400 lbs for the X3 vs. about 800 lbs for the RF sorta
shades my view.

Thanks for the comments, even though I'm unable to take advantage of
all the advise.

Overall height, I'd think more is better, you run out of spindle real quick.
Overall weight, I know more is better.

You are selecting a small light machine, just don't expect much of it.

GWE

Grant Erwin wrote:
Louis Ohland wrote:
After lots of surfing for a Sieg X3 (no Super X3s for love or money)
the Grizzly G0463 Mill / Drill at
http://www.grizzly.com/products/G0463 comes to $1,014.25, with shipping.

I looked at the Rong Fu RF-45 and other similar models. The Sieg has
a lower overall height, which makes it a better "fit" into the
available space. Also, about 400 lbs for the X3 vs. about 800 lbs for
the RF sorta shades my view.

Thanks for the comments, even though I'm unable to take advantage of
all the advise.

Overall height, I'd think more is better, you run out of spindle real
quick.

Looks like about an inch difference compared to the G1005Z at the same
price.

The limit on height is a concern, but I have no desire for a 220v unit,
nor something with more heft. I did see a HF mill/drill that was
appealing, but the round column doesn't do much for me.

Any less than 800 lb mill/drills with a square column [dovetail]? I'm
not seeing much. Sieg has the motor hanging down, instead of up, that
seems to be uncommon [but appreciated].

If I do need something bigger machined, I'll have to wheedle someone
into using their mill for a bit. The lack of a big throat on the X3
makes good clamping fixtures a must.

Grant Erwin wrote:
Overall height, I'd think more is better, you run out of spindle real
quick.
Overall weight, I know more is better.

You are selecting a small light machine, just don't expect much of it.

Round column, but only about 50 more pounds. Has anyone come up with a
CNC kit for a round column mill?

Rex B wrote:

Grant Erwin wrote:
Louis Ohland wrote:
After lots of surfing for a Sieg X3 (no Super X3s for love or
money) the Grizzly G0463 Mill / Drill at
http://www.grizzly.com/products/G0463 comes to $1,014.25, with shipping.

I looked at the Rong Fu RF-45 and other similar models. The Sieg
has a lower overall height, which makes it a better "fit" into the
available space. Also, about 400 lbs for the X3 vs. about 800 lbs for
the RF sorta shades my view.

Thanks for the comments, even though I'm unable to take advantage
of all the advise.

Overall height, I'd think more is better, you run out of spindle real
quick.

Looks like about an inch difference compared to the G1005Z at the same
price.

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 13:55:11 -0600, Louis Ohland
wrote:

The limit on height is a concern, but I have no desire for a 220v unit,
nor something with more heft. I did see a HF mill/drill that was
appealing, but the round column doesn't do much for me.

Any less than 800 lb mill/drills with a square column [dovetail]? I'm
not seeing much. Sieg has the motor hanging down, instead of up, that
seems to be uncommon [but appreciated].

If I do need something bigger machined, I'll have to wheedle someone
into using their mill for a bit. The lack of a big throat on the X3
makes good clamping fixtures a must.

Grant Erwin wrote:
Overall height, I'd think more is better, you run out of spindle real
quick.
Overall weight, I know more is better.

You are selecting a small light machine, just don't expect much of it.


HF has an X3 now too.
Randy Replogle

Louis Ohland wrote:
Round column, but only about 50 more pounds. Has anyone come up with a
CNC kit for a round column mill?

I don't know about a kit, but plenty of people are converting these
things. They have been around for decades, it was unavoidable.

Rex B wrote:

Grant Erwin wrote:
Louis Ohland wrote:
After lots of surfing for a Sieg X3 (no Super X3s for love or
money) the Grizzly G0463 Mill / Drill at
http://www.grizzly.com/products/G0463 comes to $1,014.25, with
shipping.

I looked at the Rong Fu RF-45 and other similar models. The Sieg
has a lower overall height, which makes it a better "fit" into the
available space. Also, about 400 lbs for the X3 vs. about 800 lbs
for the RF sorta shades my view.

Thanks for the comments, even though I'm unable to take advantage
of all the advise.

Overall height, I'd think more is better, you run out of spindle real
quick.

Looks like about an inch difference compared to the G1005Z at the same
price.

93885-0VGA PRECISION GEAR HEAD TWO SPEED/VARIABLE SPEED MILLING AND
DRILLING MACHINE
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=93885
Throat depth: 9''
Spindle to table: 10''

G0463 Mill / Drill
http://www.grizzly.com/products/G0463
# Max. distance spindle to table: 14 3/4"

I wish they would use the same terms. I would certainly use R8 collets
or ER32 for the most distance. HF seems so "trailer trash". Dunno.

Randy Replogle wrote:
HF has an X3 now too.
Randy Replogle

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 14:56:15 -0600, Louis Ohland
wrote:

93885-0VGA PRECISION GEAR HEAD TWO SPEED/VARIABLE SPEED MILLING AND
DRILLING MACHINE
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=93885
Throat depth: 9''
Spindle to table: 10''

G0463 Mill / Drill
http://www.grizzly.com/products/G0463
# Max. distance spindle to table: 14 3/4"

I wish they would use the same terms. I would certainly use R8 collets
or ER32 for the most distance. HF seems so "trailer trash". Dunno.

Randy Replogle wrote:
HF has an X3 now too.
Randy Replogle

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=93885

RR

Yup, same model.

Randy Replogle wrote:
93885-0VGA PRECISION GEAR HEAD TWO SPEED/VARIABLE SPEED MILLING AND
DRILLING MACHINE
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=93885
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=93885

It may be the same model, but are the fit and finish the same?
Will you be able to get parts from Harbor Freight in a year
(or are you absolutely certain that all the grizzly parts are
identical)?


Louis Ohland wrote:
Yup, same model.

Randy Replogle wrote:

93885-0VGA PRECISION GEAR HEAD TWO SPEED/VARIABLE SPEED MILLING AND
DRILLING MACHINE
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=93885

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=93885

Like two flies standing on a banana peel and arguing about it...

I think Grizzly has better support. Or so I hope...
http://www.grizzly.com/qa_support.aspx

When HF has something similar, do tell.

Mike Berger wrote:
It may be the same model, but are the fit and finish the same?
Will you be able to get parts from Harbor Freight in a year
(or are you absolutely certain that all the grizzly parts are
identical)?


Louis Ohland wrote:
Yup, same model.

Randy Replogle wrote:

93885-0VGA PRECISION GEAR HEAD TWO SPEED/VARIABLE SPEED MILLING AND
DRILLING MACHINE
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=93885

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=93885