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PrecisionMachinisT
 
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Thinking building one it might make for a fun project--anyone done this or
maybe have some pointers ???

http://www.victorysiren.com/x/index.htm

Im thinking of probly starting out with somewhat less horsepower, of
course...

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PrecisionMachinisT wrote:
Thinking building one it might make for a fun project--anyone done this or
maybe have some pointers ???

http://www.victorysiren.com/x/index.htm

Im thinking of probly starting out with somewhat less horsepower, of
course...


You want one? I know a guy who got one of the ones they used to blow
Wednesdays at noon in Seattle, looks almost like that. It's out under
a tarp next to his shop, I bet he'd jump at the chance to get rid of it.
The last time we fired it up about 10 police cars showed up responding to
about 200 complaints!

GWE
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Where is this siren located?

Could be lots of fun Waaaaay out in the desert.

Let me know.

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Grant Erwin wrote:
PrecisionMachinisT wrote:

Thinking building one it might make for a fun project--anyone done
this or
maybe have some pointers ???

http://www.victorysiren.com/x/index.htm

Im thinking of probly starting out with somewhat less horsepower, of
course...



You want one? I know a guy who got one of the ones they used to blow
Wednesdays at noon in Seattle, looks almost like that. It's out under
a tarp next to his shop, I bet he'd jump at the chance to get rid of it.
The last time we fired it up about 10 police cars showed up responding to
about 200 complaints!

GWE

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"Grant Erwin" wrote in message
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PrecisionMachinisT wrote:
Thinking building one it might make for a fun project--anyone done this

or
maybe have some pointers ???

http://www.victorysiren.com/x/index.htm

Im thinking of probly starting out with somewhat less horsepower, of
course...


You want one? I know a guy who got one of the ones they used to blow
Wednesdays at noon in Seattle, looks almost like that. It's out under
a tarp next to his shop, I bet he'd jump at the chance to get rid of it.
The last time we fired it up about 10 police cars showed up responding to
about 200 complaints!



Hmm......

Actually Im only about 120 miles from Seattle...but out in the sticks where
likely very few would be bothered........still, I doubt my wife would go for
it even if it were free for the taking....do ya spose he might be willing to
trade it straight across for my wife ???

Seriously though, I'm thinking something along the lines of about 2 hp would
be fun to construct....

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Hey, I remember those -- I used to live in Bellevue when I was
a kid and when they would set those off at noon, I would stand
at the fence with my dog and howl !! (I must have been about
8 or 10 at the time).

mikey

"Grant Erwin" wrote in message
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PrecisionMachinisT wrote:
Thinking building one it might make for a fun project--anyone done this

or
maybe have some pointers ???

http://www.victorysiren.com/x/index.htm

Im thinking of probly starting out with somewhat less horsepower, of
course...


You want one? I know a guy who got one of the ones they used to blow
Wednesdays at noon in Seattle, looks almost like that. It's out under
a tarp next to his shop, I bet he'd jump at the chance to get rid of it.
The last time we fired it up about 10 police cars showed up responding to
about 200 complaints!

GWE





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Joe
 
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Grant,

Can you ask your buddy how much he wants for it? Also, any idea on the
weight and location so I can figure shipping?

I could use this for a youth camp in the woods of Orange County NY.
....Sorta near Orange County Choppers.

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Northern, NJ
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"Grant Erwin" wrote in message
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PrecisionMachinisT wrote:
Thinking building one it might make for a fun project--anyone done this
or
maybe have some pointers ???

http://www.victorysiren.com/x/index.htm

Im thinking of probly starting out with somewhat less horsepower, of
course...


You want one? I know a guy who got one of the ones they used to blow
Wednesdays at noon in Seattle, looks almost like that. It's out under
a tarp next to his shop, I bet he'd jump at the chance to get rid of it.
The last time we fired it up about 10 police cars showed up responding to
about 200 complaints!

GWE



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when i was a kid (late 60's early 70's) my grandfather had one of those old
fashioned hand crank fire engine sirens. we used to have fun trying to see
which one of us could crank it hardest and fastest and see who could make it
howl loudest (in his garage). never had the cops come though. maybe these
days they would.
joe, do you mean redwood?

b.w.


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Grant,

Can you ask your buddy how much he wants for it? Also, any idea on the
weight and location so I can figure shipping?

I could use this for a youth camp in the woods of Orange County NY.
...Sorta near Orange County Choppers.

Joe - V#8013 - '86 VN750 - joe @ yunx .com
Northern, NJ
Ride a Motorcycle? Ask me about "The Ride"
http://www.youthelate.com/the_ride.htm

Born once - Die twice. Born twice - Die only once. Your choice...




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I built a hand-cranked tripod mounted unit from scratch a couple of years
ago. It is a 2-tone based on a Federal Series 70 as was used in the 40's
and 50's. The gear box ratio is about 37:1 . It really screams if you have
the arm power.

Randy


"Grant Erwin" wrote in message
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PrecisionMachinisT wrote:
Thinking building one it might make for a fun project--anyone done this

or
maybe have some pointers ???

http://www.victorysiren.com/x/index.htm

Im thinking of probly starting out with somewhat less horsepower, of
course...


You want one? I know a guy who got one of the ones they used to blow
Wednesdays at noon in Seattle, looks almost like that. It's out under
a tarp next to his shop, I bet he'd jump at the chance to get rid of it.
The last time we fired it up about 10 police cars showed up responding to
about 200 complaints!

GWE



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"R. O'Brian" wrote in message
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I built a hand-cranked tripod mounted unit from scratch a couple of years
ago. It is a 2-tone based on a Federal Series 70 as was used in the 40's
and 50's. The gear box ratio is about 37:1 . It really screams if you

have
the arm power.


Yeah 2 tone is what I would like, looking at tone charts the minor tuning is
10-12 or 5-6 depending on the rpms you are running.

Got any photographs of the internals ?

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SVL




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Hey, I remember those -- I used to live in Bellevue when I was
a kid and when they would set those off at noon, I would stand
at the fence with my dog and howl !! (I must have been about
8 or 10 at the time).

mikey


I would imagine that the dog looked at you strangely when you did that
right? grin




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Forget shipping unless you own a railroad. No way he or I are going to rent
a boom truck to move the thing. (He used to own a boom truck and so did I,
that's how it got to where it is now.) I'll try to hook up with him, he's
a fisherman and might be gone these days. It'll be a bit. - GWE

Joe wrote:

Grant,

Can you ask your buddy how much he wants for it? Also, any idea on the
weight and location so I can figure shipping?

I could use this for a youth camp in the woods of Orange County NY.
...Sorta near Orange County Choppers.

Joe - V#8013 - '86 VN750 - joe @ yunx .com
Northern, NJ
Ride a Motorcycle? Ask me about "The Ride"
http://www.youthelate.com/the_ride.htm

Born once - Die twice. Born twice - Die only once. Your choice...

Have unwanted music CDs or DVDs of any type? I can use them for our
charity. eMail me privately for details. Donation receipts available.

Know someone with a motorcycle in the NY Metro area?
http://host.mynocdns.com/mailman/lis...rides_yunx.com


"Grant Erwin" wrote in message
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PrecisionMachinisT wrote:

Thinking building one it might make for a fun project--anyone done this
or
maybe have some pointers ???

http://www.victorysiren.com/x/index.htm

Im thinking of probly starting out with somewhat less horsepower, of
course...


You want one? I know a guy who got one of the ones they used to blow
Wednesdays at noon in Seattle, looks almost like that. It's out under
a tarp next to his shop, I bet he'd jump at the chance to get rid of it.
The last time we fired it up about 10 police cars showed up responding to
about 200 complaints!

GWE




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joe, do you mean redwood?

Redwood? Probably not since it is not connecting with anything in my mind.
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Northern, NJ
Ride a Motorcycle? Ask me about "The Ride"
http://www.youthelate.com/the_ride.htm

Born once - Die twice. Born twice - Die only once. Your choice...

Have unwanted music CDs or DVDs of any type? I can use them for our
charity. eMail me privately for details. Donation receipts available.

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Seriously though, I'm thinking something along the lines of about 2 hp would
be fun to construct....


Check out http://www.airraidsirens.com/

From his FAQ:

6. Is it legal to run an air raid siren at home?

Short answer: no.

Long answer: It depends a lot on where you live...

[snip]
In areas with active sirens, the laws are strictly enforced. In
areas without sirens, the occasional blast will likely go
unnoticed.


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Seriously though, I'm thinking something along the lines of about 2 hp

would
be fun to construct....


Check out http://www.airraidsirens.com/

From his FAQ:

6. Is it legal to run an air raid siren at home?

Short answer: no.

Long answer: It depends a lot on where you live...

[snip]
In areas with active sirens, the laws are strictly enforced. In
areas without sirens, the occasional blast will likely go
unnoticed.



The Fire Chief lives just up the road from here, real nice guy...

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"PrecisionMachinisT" wrote in message
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"R. O'Brian" wrote in message
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I built a hand-cranked tripod mounted unit from scratch a couple of

years
ago. It is a 2-tone based on a Federal Series 70 as was used in the

40's
and 50's. The gear box ratio is about 37:1 . It really screams if you

have
the arm power.


Yeah 2 tone is what I would like, looking at tone charts the minor tuning

is
10-12 or 5-6 depending on the rpms you are running.

Got any photographs of the internals ?

--

SVL


I might can pull off the stator and photo it and the rotor. Would that
help?

The tone ratio is 9/8. I don't know the musical significance of that
particular ratio, I just copied a known commercial siren. The shaft and
bearings are pretty straight forward. The only novel item is an overrunning
cluch that allows the rotor to coast when you stop cranking. The stator is
about 6" dia. I think it would take about 3/4 hp to motorize it at say 450
rpm, but that is a guess. Two tones doubles the load on the driver.

Randy





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"Lane" lane (no spam) at copperaccents dot com wrote in message
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"Mike Fields" wrote in message
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Hey, I remember those -- I used to live in Bellevue when I was
a kid and when they would set those off at noon, I would stand
at the fence with my dog and howl !! (I must have been about
8 or 10 at the time).

mikey


I would imagine that the dog looked at you strangely when you did that
right? grin


He just seemed to think it was part of the drill (so did I I guess ;-))


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"PrecisionMachinisT" wrote:

Thinking building one it might make for a fun project--anyone done this or
maybe have some pointers ???

http://www.victorysiren.com/x/index.htm

Im thinking of probly starting out with somewhat less horsepower, of
course...

--

SVL


Finally! We now have an answer for Rex's annoying neighbor's dog
thread.

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Finally! We now have an answer for Rex's annoying neighbor's dog
thread.


LOL!
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Northern, NJ
Ride a Motorcycle? Ask me about "The Ride"
http://www.youthelate.com/the_ride.htm

Born once - Die twice. Born twice - Die only once. Your choice...

Have unwanted music CDs or DVDs of any type? I can use them for our
charity. eMail me privately for details. Donation receipts available.

Know someone with a motorcycle in the NY Metro area?
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