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Ignoramus17647 wrote: How long are your mechanical switches going to last at 60 operations/second? If you can get 1 million operations, that is 277 hours, or 11 days. I'd suspect a mechanical switch will not last even that long at such a rate. This is an excellent question. I am thinking, that what I want to do is similar to "brushes" on electric motors with brushes, and these last a long enough time. Maybe I can use same sort of brushes. Igreatly appreciate your input, please do not hold back! Ya know, instead of switches, you could mount a few magnets on the wheel and whizz 'em past little coils. Then use that induced current to switch your transistors. Might have to set up a cascade of transistors to step up from the wee induced currents to something that could drive your big transistors cleanly. -- B.B. --I am not a goat! thegoat4 at airmail dot net http://web2.airmail.net/thegoat4/ |
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Hey Pete,
Worked OK for me, so here is one of the Item numbers, then do a search for Sellers Other Items. 3875488109 or maybe just try the lathe..... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=97230&item=3875488 109&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW Take care. Brian Lawson, Bothwell, Ontario. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 13:55:35 -0600, "B.B." u wrote: In article , Ignoramus17647 wrote: How long are your mechanical switches going to last at 60 operations/second? If you can get 1 million operations, that is 277 hours, or 11 days. I'd suspect a mechanical switch will not last even that long at such a rate. This is an excellent question. I am thinking, that what I want to do is similar to "brushes" on electric motors with brushes, and these last a long enough time. Maybe I can use same sort of brushes. Igreatly appreciate your input, please do not hold back! Ya know, instead of switches, you could mount a few magnets on the wheel and whizz 'em past little coils. Then use that induced current to switch your transistors. Might have to set up a cascade of transistors to step up from the wee induced currents to something that could drive your big transistors cleanly. |
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WHOOPS....SORRY....thais was supposed to be a reply to another post.
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 08:00:05 -0500, Brian Lawson wrote: Hey Pete, Worked OK for me, so here is one of the Item numbers, then do a search for Sellers Other Items. 3875488109 or maybe just try the lathe..... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=97230&item=3875488 109&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW Take care. Brian Lawson, Bothwell, Ontario. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 13:55:35 -0600, "B.B." . ru wrote: In article , Ignoramus17647 wrote: How long are your mechanical switches going to last at 60 operations/second? If you can get 1 million operations, that is 277 hours, or 11 days. I'd suspect a mechanical switch will not last even that long at such a rate. This is an excellent question. I am thinking, that what I want to do is similar to "brushes" on electric motors with brushes, and these last a long enough time. Maybe I can use same sort of brushes. Igreatly appreciate your input, please do not hold back! Ya know, instead of switches, you could mount a few magnets on the wheel and whizz 'em past little coils. Then use that induced current to switch your transistors. Might have to set up a cascade of transistors to step up from the wee induced currents to something that could drive your big transistors cleanly. |
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By the way, you can't build an inverter with SCRs. An SCR can only be
turned on, not off, on command. Once you turn it on, it will not shut off until the current through it goes to zero. For building an inverter, you want power devices that can switch on _and_ off in the kHz range in order to PWM all the phases you are trying to drive. SCRs are fine for dimmers and heaters, and if you look at designs for those you will see that they rely on triggering the SCR at a variable phase angle, but it is always variable moving back from the zero crossing. So you want to be using IGBTs probably, although you can also do it with FETs. As other people have mentioned, there are _lots_ of details to take care of in this seemingly simple system. Try building a good variable speed DC motor controller first, since that is sort of like 1/3 of what you are eventually going to get to. -Holly |
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Holly,
Maybe someone "lost the recipe" since SCR circuits have been used ever since they were invented with commutation circuits. There are even application notes on using SCR drives for DC motors driven from batteries. My brother used to have an inverter that took 24 volts and generated 240 volts AC and the active devices were in fact just two SCR's. That was his power source in the Alaskan wilderness. It had to be reliable. Now, in todays modern world, there are much better solutions, but don't believe that they can't be used for inverters or commutated once turned on. Pete |
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