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Emil Johnsen
 
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Default Slide table

I'm looking for a slide table, but google is turning up very little about
what kind of quality to expect.

I'm considering this one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll... 544&tc=photo

From specs and pictures it looks like it's the same as Enco 201-2536:
http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRIT?P...&PARTPG=INLMK3

I'm also considering the Palmgren MTC18:
http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRIT?PMAKA=891-4153
http://www.palmgren.com/palmgren/p-m...idetables.html

Anyone own either one (or another slide table in the same size/price range)
and can comment on quality?

Emil


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David Billington
 
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Probably best you check it out in person if possible and make sure it is
the quality you want. A friend of mine got one from MachineMart in the
UK which I guess is like HF. He was appalled at the poor quality and was
ashamed to show it, but it was cheap, and he asked for it as a birthday
presnt so didn't see it first. I think he keeps it tucked out of site as
he doesn't like to look at it. He thought it might be useful to do some
very light milling, X-Y drilling on a drill press. It might be suitable
for the later if you don't want much precision.

Emil Johnsen wrote:

I'm looking for a slide table, but google is turning up very little about
what kind of quality to expect.

I'm considering this one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll... 544&tc=photo

From specs and pictures it looks like it's the same as Enco 201-2536:
http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRIT?P...&PARTPG=INLMK3

I'm also considering the Palmgren MTC18:
http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRIT?PMAKA=891-4153
http://www.palmgren.com/palmgren/p-m...idetables.html

Anyone own either one (or another slide table in the same size/price range)
and can comment on quality?

Emil



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Don Foreman
 
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On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 05:30:01 +0100, "Emil Johnsen"
wrote:

I'm looking for a slide table, but google is turning up very little about
what kind of quality to expect.

I'm considering this one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll... 544&tc=photo

From specs and pictures it looks like it's the same as Enco 201-2536:
http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRIT?P...&PARTPG=INLMK3

I'm also considering the Palmgren MTC18:
http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRIT?PMAKA=891-4153
http://www.palmgren.com/palmgren/p-m...idetables.html

Anyone own either one (or another slide table in the same size/price range)
and can comment on quality?


Some of the import stuff is pretty poor. Palmgren used to make decent
stuff, but I haven't seen or used one of their X-Y tables.

Check a used machinery dealer for higher-quality stuff.
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Wild Bill
 
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I've got a Palmgren 6x12" tilting slide table (not X-Y) that is made well.
It was an unused eBay purchase, so I'm not sure when it was manufactured,
but the Palmgren accessories that I've used are considerably better (HSM
duty) than China stuff.

I'm fairly particular about quality and assembly, and this Palmgren table
only needed a thin shim washer to minimize the backlash at the screw anchor
thrust bearing. The fact that it has a real thrust bearing puts it in a
class above the cheap imported models.

Phase II might be a little better quality than the low-end stuff, but
unlikely to be as good as Palmgren.

A China X-Y table I got as part of another deal was really rough. Bad
leadscrews, really poor nuts, dovetails and minimal-mass in the castings. I
suppose it would be decent to use for positioning sloppy woodworking, and
not much else (certainly not feeding a metal cut).
But instead of calling it a waste, I bought some acme 1/2"-10 screw and a
tap to fabricate some better nuts, and maybe be usable at some time when I
get around to messin' with it. I noticed that the base dovetail fits the top
slide and the cross, so it can be reassembled as a single slide table.
The trouble with trying to improve the low quality stuff is that many times
it can't be.. too little material in the dovetail areas, or otherwise thin
section castings where there needs to be more iron.

I've noticed in pictures that the low-end models usually have wide chamfers
at the sides of the T-slots. I have no idea why they choose to do that.
All the Pamgren table slots I've seen look normal, with the edges nearly
square (inside and out), and thick webs for the dovetails.

The table pictured in the eBay ad looks nice on top, which is typical of
that sort of stuff. It seems that most of the low-end stuff is produced to
have the most obvious features appear attractive.
The Ms. Swan character from MadTV would say "it looky like a.. (X-Y table)".

WB
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I'm looking for a slide table, but google is turning up very little about
what kind of quality to expect.

I'm considering this one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll... 544&tc=photo

From specs and pictures it looks like it's the same as Enco 201-2536:

http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRIT?P...&PARTPG=INLMK3

I'm also considering the Palmgren MTC18:
http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRIT?PMAKA=891-4153
http://www.palmgren.com/palmgren/p-m...idetables.html

Anyone own either one (or another slide table in the same size/price

range)
and can comment on quality?

Emil






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WHere are you located? I have a slide table that I aquired at an
auction. The slide table was the the preceeding lot to the one I
wanted and since no one bid at the autioneer's minimum, it was lumped
into the next lot (the one that I bought). The table is about 12 inch
square w/o any T-slots, has 2 tapped holes that retained a tapping
plate. I'm guessing that it has about 4 to 5 inches of travel in each
axis (I've never looked at it that closely, I have no immediate use for
it but it was way too nice to leave behind at the auction site, I've
toyed w/ using it to make a light duty surface grinder). USA made but
I do not remember the brand off hand. It is heavy and I am in the
Detroit area. If interested, contact me and I will get the particulars.

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