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Fixing old air compressor to run another coupla decades
The two-stage air compressor I built 15 years ago has been cycling too
often of late. There's a leak somewhere. I didn't make the pump, just assembled stuff to fit in the space I had. I found the two-stage pump on the bargain table at Northern Tool. Turned out it had a broken ring but the cylinder wasn't scored. I repaired it and have used it for at least 15 years since. Fixing the present problem, the leak, wasn't nearly the fight I was afraid it might be. God bless teflon-loaded pipe dope -- and me for having sense enough to use it 15 years ago when I built this kludge. I discovered that the safety valve was leaking a little so I replaced that. Didn't make much difference. I noted that the pressure switch I'd used was rated for 125 PSI on, lower off. Oh, golly, I must have been in a hurry or feelin' poor at the time. I'd just torqued the screws so it'd run between about 175 and somewhat less. I picked up a new (properly rated) pressure switch and checkvalve today at Grainger. I thought the old checkvalve might be a bitch to get out but it wasn't bad at all. I thought I might have to do much more diassembly than I did to get the pressure switch off, but there was just enough clearance so it could unscrew without dismantling a bunch of other plumbing. I claim no foresight in the design; a look at it would certainly remove any doubt about that. Luck is good. Careful design is good, but it's hard to beat good luck. I didn't really design this kludge, just built it. I didn't have time to design stuff then. I wanted more air ASAP for doing rustwork on cars. Had a herd of kids to educate so available funds went to tuition rather than to Detroit or Japan while I wrenched and did bodywork to keep the transportation fleet running and presentable. Bodywork needs lots of air. OK, new checkvalve, new safety valve, new pressure switch, everything plumbed and wired. I crimped ring terminals onto the stranded power cord while I was in there. They were just under screws in the old pressure switch. Maybe I didn't have any crimp terminals handy when I built it. I presently have a plug where the highside pressure gage goes; the old gage is in the trashcan. I'll pick up a new one tomorrow. Fired it up. Yes, with no gage. What the hell, it's running with a brand new pressure switch and a brand-new ASME-rated safety valve, right? I still didn't get near it until it cycled off. The old gage was too shot to trust anyway. It kicked on again in about five minutes. DAMN! Might I have a pin hole or crack in the small tank? That would be very bad news. It would mean rebuilding the whole system. I could do that, but it sure wouldn't be on the top of my list of fun things to do in my dotage. Gloom! Doom on me. The tank is galvanized inside and out, shouldn't have failed me even though it was a free scrounge 15 years ago. Oh **** oh dear and dammitall, I purely hate when **** happens. With some pessimism I sniffed around the only other place that there is pressure. Well, dang me and hang me, I could feel (and even hear, I think) a leak where the water catchbowl in the filter-regulator screws in. If I can hear it at all , it's a non-trivial leak. Hearing impairment is quite common in vets of my vintage. The 50 cal machinegun makes a lot of noise and sojers didn't wear earmuffs for obvious reasons. I could definitely feel the leak even with a dry finger. Don' need no soap bubbles to confirm that one. My reaction was only comprehensible in context: "OH BOY, HOT DAMN, A LEAK, YAYYYY!" Dumped the tank yet again, unscrewed the bowl. O-ring looked tits. I don't know how that bowl could vibrate loose under pressure, but it does seem to have done that. I cleaned the O-ring and mating surfaces, smeared some silicone grease on it, screwed it back in and tightened it with a strap wrench. I'm glad I renewed the safety valve and checkvalve even though I now know the primary leak was at the regulator filter unit. The old safety valve was definitely leaking a little and the old checkvalve looked a little crusty as well upon autopsy. I don't know if it was leaking or not, but if it wasn't it would have before much longer. I was about to note that this may be the first repair I've done in recent memory that didn't involve some machining or welding but just wrenching. That's almost true -- but I did cut 1/8" off the riser tube and re-flare it. I did the cut with the bandsaw because a tubing cutter wouldn't get anywhere near close enough. Deburred the cut, cleaned out the copper dust, reflared it. That minor trim made it fit much better; it went back in with no fight at all. I replaced the belt-and-pulley guard made of a shadowbox welded from 1/8" x 3" HRS and shrouded by a rack from an old refrigerator. I'd rather it not eat my knee when it decides to run. It is kneeside because I correspond with a laptop 'puter sitting on a piece of plywood on an open tool drawer at my workbench. I fired up the refurbished air compressor. It's now at three hours and holding without cycling. I'm declaring victory. |
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On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 02:26:29 -0600, Don Foreman
wrote: I fired up the refurbished air compressor. It's now at three hours and holding without cycling. I'm declaring victory. Well done! My very old DeVilbiss single stage double piston compressor is starting to clank ever so softly...looks like Ive got some compressor work to do in the near future also. gunner "Gunner, you are the same ridiculous liberal f--k you ever where." Scipio |
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Get a Quincy and let you're grandchildren rebuild it when they get old.
"Gunner" wrote in message ... On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 02:26:29 -0600, Don Foreman wrote: I fired up the refurbished air compressor. It's now at three hours and holding without cycling. I'm declaring victory. Well done! My very old DeVilbiss single stage double piston compressor is starting to clank ever so softly...looks like Ive got some compressor work to do in the near future also. gunner "Gunner, you are the same ridiculous liberal f--k you ever where." Scipio |
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On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 17:23:35 GMT, "Tom Gardner"
wrote: Get a Quincy and let you're grandchildren rebuild it when they get old. Got a new free one? This one was manufactured in 1957. Gunner "Gunner" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 02:26:29 -0600, Don Foreman wrote: I fired up the refurbished air compressor. It's now at three hours and holding without cycling. I'm declaring victory. Well done! My very old DeVilbiss single stage double piston compressor is starting to clank ever so softly...looks like Ive got some compressor work to do in the near future also. gunner "Gunner, you are the same ridiculous liberal f--k you ever where." Scipio "Gunner, you are the same ridiculous liberal f--k you ever where." Scipio |
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Call 'em, it's still under warranty.
"Gunner" wrote in message ... On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 17:23:35 GMT, "Tom Gardner" wrote: Get a Quincy and let you're grandchildren rebuild it when they get old. Got a new free one? This one was manufactured in 1957. Gunner "Gunner" wrote in message . .. On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 02:26:29 -0600, Don Foreman wrote: I fired up the refurbished air compressor. It's now at three hours and holding without cycling. I'm declaring victory. Well done! My very old DeVilbiss single stage double piston compressor is starting to clank ever so softly...looks like Ive got some compressor work to do in the near future also. gunner "Gunner, you are the same ridiculous liberal f--k you ever where." Scipio "Gunner, you are the same ridiculous liberal f--k you ever where." Scipio |
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On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:27:33 GMT, "Tom Gardner"
wrote: Call 'em, it's still under warranty. Ya think? Ill call tomorrow. Gunner "Gunner" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 17:23:35 GMT, "Tom Gardner" wrote: Get a Quincy and let you're grandchildren rebuild it when they get old. Got a new free one? This one was manufactured in 1957. Gunner "Gunner" wrote in message ... On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 02:26:29 -0600, Don Foreman wrote: I fired up the refurbished air compressor. It's now at three hours and holding without cycling. I'm declaring victory. Well done! My very old DeVilbiss single stage double piston compressor is starting to clank ever so softly...looks like Ive got some compressor work to do in the near future also. gunner "Gunner, you are the same ridiculous liberal f--k you ever where." Scipio "Gunner, you are the same ridiculous liberal f--k you ever where." Scipio "At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child - miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke |
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