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Got a I suspect new-ish Lodge cast iron skillet with a small void, maybe
1/16" in diamter. What's the laziest way to fill this in? I'm thinking about just peening in some soft steel wire or copper in there to just plug it. burned up oil will coat in in the end. Have access to an oxyacetylene torch and pickup any sort of rod being sold. Not really sure what type of cast iron us used in these. It makes black dust if you grind it and it takes as while to get all the dust off. |
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On Sun, 4 Apr 2021 04:57:17 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
wrote: Got a I suspect new-ish Lodge cast iron skillet with a small void, maybe 1/16" in diamter. What's the laziest way to fill this in? I'm thinking about just peening in some soft steel wire or copper in there to just plug it. burned up oil will coat in in the end. Have access to an oxyacetylene torch and pickup any sort of rod being sold. Not really sure what type of cast iron us used in these. It makes black dust if you grind it and it takes as while to get all the dust off. Cadmium free silver solder would be my first choice. Remove 333 to reply. Randy |
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Randy333 wrote:
On Sun, 4 Apr 2021 04:57:17 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Got a I suspect new-ish Lodge cast iron skillet with a small void, maybe 1/16" in diamter. What's the laziest way to fill this in? I'm thinking about just peening in some soft steel wire or copper in there to just plug it. burned up oil will coat in in the end. Have access to an oxyacetylene torch and pickup any sort of rod being sold. Not really sure what type of cast iron us used in these. It makes black dust if you grind it and it takes as while to get all the dust off. Cadmium free silver solder would be my first choice. What type of silver solder? It looks like plumbing solder might melt at oven temperatures. The rest of the stuff I have is electronic grade, and also has a fairly low melting temp as well. |
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On 26/04/2021 01:11, Cydrome Leader wrote:
Randy333 wrote: On Sun, 4 Apr 2021 04:57:17 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Got a I suspect new-ish Lodge cast iron skillet with a small void, maybe 1/16" in diamter. What's the laziest way to fill this in? I'm thinking about just peening in some soft steel wire or copper in there to just plug it. burned up oil will coat in in the end. Have access to an oxyacetylene torch and pickup any sort of rod being sold. Not really sure what type of cast iron us used in these. It makes black dust if you grind it and it takes as while to get all the dust off. Cadmium free silver solder would be my first choice. What type of silver solder? It looks like plumbing solder might melt at oven temperatures. The rest of the stuff I have is electronic grade, and also has a fairly low melting temp as well. Having looked up information on silver soldering cast iron in the past it was suggested that the surface needed to be heated to a high temperature to burn off the carbon at the surface or the silver solder wouldn't stick. That would likely make your repair impractical. |
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David Billington wrote:
On 26/04/2021 01:11, Cydrome Leader wrote: Randy333 wrote: On Sun, 4 Apr 2021 04:57:17 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Got a I suspect new-ish Lodge cast iron skillet with a small void, maybe 1/16" in diamter. What's the laziest way to fill this in? I'm thinking about just peening in some soft steel wire or copper in there to just plug it. burned up oil will coat in in the end. Have access to an oxyacetylene torch and pickup any sort of rod being sold. Not really sure what type of cast iron us used in these. It makes black dust if you grind it and it takes as while to get all the dust off. Cadmium free silver solder would be my first choice. What type of silver solder? It looks like plumbing solder might melt at oven temperatures. The rest of the stuff I have is electronic grade, and also has a fairly low melting temp as well. Having looked up information on silver soldering cast iron in the past it was suggested that the surface needed to be heated to a high temperature to burn off the carbon at the surface or the silver solder wouldn't stick. That would likely make your repair impractical. I can use any amount of heat, up to the melting point of the cast iron itself. I can drill out the pock mark to a full hole, it really doesn't matter. The thing is from the trash. The only brazing rod I have had some haz-mat fees included in the purchase, so I will not use it near food. |
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"Cydrome Leader" wrote in message ...
I can use any amount of heat, up to the melting point of the cast iron itself. I can drill out the pock mark to a full hole, it really doesn't matter. The thing is from the trash. The only brazing rod I have had some haz-mat fees included in the purchase, so I will not use it near food. ------------------------------------- If you don't mind drilling and countersinking and are skilled with a ball peen hammer you could plug the hole with a rivet. |
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On 25/04/2021 7:11 pm, Cydrome Leader wrote:
Randy333 wrote: On Sun, 4 Apr 2021 04:57:17 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Got a I suspect new-ish Lodge cast iron skillet with a small void, maybe 1/16" in diamter. What's the laziest way to fill this in? I'm thinking about just peening in some soft steel wire or copper in there to just plug it. burned up oil will coat in in the end. Have access to an oxyacetylene torch and pickup any sort of rod being sold. Not really sure what type of cast iron us used in these. It makes black dust if you grind it and it takes as while to get all the dust off. Cadmium free silver solder would be my first choice. What type of silver solder? It looks like plumbing solder might melt at oven temperatures. The rest of the stuff I have is electronic grade, and also has a fairly low melting temp as well. JB weld? |
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On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 00:11:04 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
wrote: Randy333 wrote: On Sun, 4 Apr 2021 04:57:17 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Got a I suspect new-ish Lodge cast iron skillet with a small void, maybe 1/16" in diamter. What's the laziest way to fill this in? I'm thinking about just peening in some soft steel wire or copper in there to just plug it. burned up oil will coat in in the end. Have access to an oxyacetylene torch and pickup any sort of rod being sold. Not really sure what type of cast iron us used in these. It makes black dust if you grind it and it takes as while to get all the dust off. Cadmium free silver solder would be my first choice. What type of silver solder? It looks like plumbing solder might melt at oven temperatures. The rest of the stuff I have is electronic grade, and also has a fairly low melting temp as well. The traditional braze filler or cast iron is nickel. This is used to repair cast-iron machinery parts, so google for advice on how to dpi that. Joe Gwinn |
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On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 00:11:04 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
wrote: Randy333 wrote: On Sun, 4 Apr 2021 04:57:17 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Got a I suspect new-ish Lodge cast iron skillet with a small void, maybe 1/16" in diamter. What's the laziest way to fill this in? I'm thinking about just peening in some soft steel wire or copper in there to just plug it. burned up oil will coat in in the end. Have access to an oxyacetylene torch and pickup any sort of rod being sold. Not really sure what type of cast iron us used in these. It makes black dust if you grind it and it takes as while to get all the dust off. Cadmium free silver solder would be my first choice. What type of silver solder? It looks like plumbing solder might melt at oven temperatures. The rest of the stuff I have is electronic grade, and also has a fairly low melting temp as well. Plumbing solder that is lead free has a small amount of silver maybe 2%, that's not what you want. Not all lead free solder has silver, it can be made without it. There are a bunch of different alloys out there. Real silver solder is a brazing alloy. They melt at over 1000 deg F. you need the work peice red hot. 99% nickel alloy is used to weld cast iron, they have 99% Ni rod for TIG or stick welding. Look at McMaster-Carr # 7761A15 It's 45% Silver, 30% copper, 25% Zinc, NO lead or Cadmium Spot drill and then fill in the dimple might work best. You will need flux to braze. I get a HAZMAT fee on argon and nitrogen, they put that on everything. It's just a scam to get an extra $8.00 everytime I go to the welding store. Read the MSDS to see what you actually have. Randy Remove 333 to reply. Randy |
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Randy333 wrote:
On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 00:11:04 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Randy333 wrote: On Sun, 4 Apr 2021 04:57:17 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Got a I suspect new-ish Lodge cast iron skillet with a small void, maybe 1/16" in diamter. What's the laziest way to fill this in? I'm thinking about just peening in some soft steel wire or copper in there to just plug it. burned up oil will coat in in the end. Have access to an oxyacetylene torch and pickup any sort of rod being sold. Not really sure what type of cast iron us used in these. It makes black dust if you grind it and it takes as while to get all the dust off. Cadmium free silver solder would be my first choice. What type of silver solder? It looks like plumbing solder might melt at oven temperatures. The rest of the stuff I have is electronic grade, and also has a fairly low melting temp as well. Plumbing solder that is lead free has a small amount of silver maybe 2%, that's not what you want. Not all lead free solder has silver, it can be made without it. There are a bunch of different alloys out there. This where I get lots. There doesn't seem to be a real standard to declare what solder is, and sometimes the ingredients are just not listed. I have some 5% silver solder for example. the other 95% is a mystery, it just doesn't say. Real silver solder is a brazing alloy. They melt at over 1000 deg F. you need the work peice red hot. Is this the same, similar to the flat HVAC brazing rods? 99% nickel alloy is used to weld cast iron, they have 99% Ni rod for TIG or stick welding. Look at McMaster-Carr # 7761A15 It's 45% Silver, 30% copper, 25% Zinc, NO lead or Cadmium $50/oz? How good/pretty is this stuff on stainless? Spot drill and then fill in the dimple might work best. You will need flux to braze. I get a HAZMAT fee on argon and nitrogen, they put that on everything. It's just a scam to get an extra $8.00 everytime I go to the welding store. Read the MSDS to see what you actually have. Yeah, that's just robbery on gasses. The fees here seem pretty random. The state of Il is somehow really scared of bronze for some reason. |
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On Thu, 6 May 2021 21:22:02 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
wrote: Randy333 wrote: On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 00:11:04 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Randy333 wrote: On Sun, 4 Apr 2021 04:57:17 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Got a I suspect new-ish Lodge cast iron skillet with a small void, maybe 1/16" in diamter. What's the laziest way to fill this in? I'm thinking about just peening in some soft steel wire or copper in there to just plug it. burned up oil will coat in in the end. Have access to an oxyacetylene torch and pickup any sort of rod being sold. Not really sure what type of cast iron us used in these. It makes black dust if you grind it and it takes as while to get all the dust off. Cadmium free silver solder would be my first choice. What type of silver solder? It looks like plumbing solder might melt at oven temperatures. The rest of the stuff I have is electronic grade, and also has a fairly low melting temp as well. Plumbing solder that is lead free has a small amount of silver maybe 2%, that's not what you want. Not all lead free solder has silver, it can be made without it. There are a bunch of different alloys out there. This where I get lots. There doesn't seem to be a real standard to declare what solder is, and sometimes the ingredients are just not listed. I have some 5% silver solder for example. the other 95% is a mystery, it just doesn't say. Real silver solder is a brazing alloy. They melt at over 1000 deg F. you need the work peice red hot. Is this the same, similar to the flat HVAC brazing rods? I have some flat brazing rods for HVAC work that do not need any flux on copper. The Silver stuff I have is round. 99% nickel alloy is used to weld cast iron, they have 99% Ni rod for TIG or stick welding. Look at McMaster-Carr # 7761A15 It's 45% Silver, 30% copper, 25% Zinc, NO lead or Cadmium $50/oz? How good/pretty is this stuff on stainless? Depends on how good you are with flux and a torch. Pricey, yes. but you don't need much. A 1 OZ roll lasts me awhile. Spot drill and then fill in the dimple might work best. You will need flux to braze. I get a HAZMAT fee on argon and nitrogen, they put that on everything. It's just a scam to get an extra $8.00 everytime I go to the welding store. Read the MSDS to see what you actually have. Yeah, that's just robbery on gasses. The fees here seem pretty random. The state of Il is somehow really scared of bronze for some reason. Remove 333 to reply. Randy |
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On Thursday, May 6, 2021 at 5:22:06 PM UTC-4, Cydrome Leader wrote:
Randy333 wrote: On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 00:11:04 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Randy333 wrote: On Sun, 4 Apr 2021 04:57:17 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Got a I suspect new-ish Lodge cast iron skillet with a small void, maybe 1/16" in diamter. What's the laziest way to fill this in? I'm thinking about just peening in some soft steel wire or copper in there to just plug it. burned up oil will coat in in the end. Have access to an oxyacetylene torch and pickup any sort of rod being sold. Not really sure what type of cast iron us used in these. It makes black dust if you grind it and it takes as while to get all the dust off. Cadmium free silver solder would be my first choice. What type of silver solder? It looks like plumbing solder might melt at oven temperatures. The rest of the stuff I have is electronic grade, and also has a fairly low melting temp as well. Plumbing solder that is lead free has a small amount of silver maybe 2%, that's not what you want. Not all lead free solder has silver, it can be made without it. There are a bunch of different alloys out there. This where I get lots. There doesn't seem to be a real standard to declare what solder is, and sometimes the ingredients are just not listed. I have some 5% silver solder for example. the other 95% is a mystery, it just doesn't say. Real silver solder is a brazing alloy. They melt at over 1000 deg F. you need the work peice red hot. Is this the same, similar to the flat HVAC brazing rods? 99% nickel alloy is used to weld cast iron, they have 99% Ni rod for TIG or stick welding. Look at McMaster-Carr # 7761A15 It's 45% Silver, 30% copper, 25% Zinc, NO lead or Cadmium $50/oz? How good/pretty is this stuff on stainless? Spot drill and then fill in the dimple might work best. You will need flux to braze. I get a HAZMAT fee on argon and nitrogen, they put that on everything. It's just a scam to get an extra $8.00 everytime I go to the welding store. Read the MSDS to see what you actually have. Yeah, that's just robbery on gasses. The fees here seem pretty random. The state of Il is somehow really scared of bronze for some reason. $ 180 bucks or so can get you an Oxy-Acetylene torch. I don't know if its used or not. |
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