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I have one regular and one heavy-duty "flying parts" or whatever
they are called hole cutters. The heavy duty is too big to cut a 40 mm hole. The small one probably won't cut 1/4"+ thick 6061 aluminum. I'd rather try something like this... https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...3H6VU16E&psc=1 Can you tell what sort of shank it has? I doubt square will work. Round might work. I would prefer hex. Any suggestions for a 40 mm aluminum hole saw, to be stuck in a drill press? Thanks. |
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On Tue, 16 Jul 2019 02:59:27 -0000 (UTC), John Doe
wrote: I have one regular and one heavy-duty "flying parts" or whatever they are called hole cutters. The heavy duty is too big to cut a 40 mm hole. The small one probably won't cut 1/4"+ thick 6061 aluminum. I'd rather try something like this... https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...3H6VU16E&psc=1 Can you tell what sort of shank it has? I doubt square will work. Round might work. I would prefer hex. Any suggestions for a 40 mm aluminum hole saw, to be stuck in a drill press? Thanks. I have a couple sets of these. What you are looking for is an Annular Cutter: https://www.mscdirect.com/product/details/66162819 https://www.mscdirect.com/product/de...12135?fromRR=Y Dont bother trying to use these with a hand drill. A mill or good solid drill press. Not! a Harbor Freight caca one either. Ive used these to punch a hole in 1.5" 4130 plate in just a couple minutes. __ "Poor widdle Wudy...mentally ill, lies constantly, doesnt know who he is, or even what gender "he" is. No more pathetic creature has ever walked the earth. But...he is locked into a mental hospital for the safety of the public. Which is a very good thing." Asun rauhassa, valmistaudun sotaan. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On 16/07/2019 05:46, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Tue, 16 Jul 2019 02:59:27 -0000 (UTC), John Doe wrote: I have one regular and one heavy-duty "flying parts" or whatever they are called hole cutters. The heavy duty is too big to cut a 40 mm hole. The small one probably won't cut 1/4"+ thick 6061 aluminum. I'd rather try something like this... https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...3H6VU16E&psc=1 Can you tell what sort of shank it has? I doubt square will work. Round might work. I would prefer hex. Any suggestions for a 40 mm aluminum hole saw, to be stuck in a drill press? Thanks. I have a couple sets of these. What you are looking for is an Annular Cutter: https://www.mscdirect.com/product/details/66162819 https://www.mscdirect.com/product/de...12135?fromRR=Y Dont bother trying to use these with a hand drill. A mill or good solid drill press. Not! a Harbor Freight caca one either. Ive used these to punch a hole in 1.5" 4130 plate in just a couple minutes. __ "Poor widdle Wudy...mentally ill, lies constantly, doesnt know who he is, or even what gender "he" is. No more pathetic creature has ever walked the earth. But...he is locked into a mental hospital for the safety of the public. Which is a very good thing." Asun rauhassa, valmistaudun sotaan. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus While I love annular cutters for use in the lathe and BP the 3/4" shank may be a problem for the OPs requirements so a simple hole saw such as a Starrett bi-metalÂ* hole saw would be more than adequate. Such as https://www.amazon.com/HSS-BI-METAL-.../dp/B01DO4WNA8 . |
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David Billington wrote:
Gunner Asch wrote: John Doe wrote: I have one regular and one heavy-duty "flying parts" or whatever they are called hole cutters. The heavy duty is too big to cut a 40 mm hole. The small one probably won't cut 1/4"+ thick 6061 aluminum. I'd rather try something like this... https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...3H6VU16E&psc=1 Can you tell what sort of shank it has? I doubt square will work. Round might work. I would prefer hex. Any suggestions for a 40 mm aluminum hole saw, to be stuck in a drill press? I have a couple sets of these. What you are looking for is an Annular Cutter: https://www.mscdirect.com/product/details/66162819 https://www.mscdirect.com/product/de...12135?fromRR=Y Dont bother trying to use these with a hand drill. A mill or good solid drill press. Not! a Harbor Freight caca one either. Ive used these to punch a hole in 1.5" 4130 plate in just a couple minutes. While I love annular cutters for use in the lathe and BP the 3/4" shank may be a problem for the OPs requirements so a simple hole saw such as a Starrett bi-metal hole saw would be more than adequate. Such as https://www.amazon.com/HSS-BI-METAL-.../dp/B01DO4WNA8 . Thanks. I thought carbide-tipped would be necessary, but then figured bi-metal would work. I looked at Starrett and Morse. I ordered two like your suggestion. One Lenox with integrated arbor, and the other a Dewalt 7/16 inch shank arbor plus a Morse saw. Local stores don't carry 1-9/16" diameter saws but no matter, already delivered. |
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"David Billington" wrote in message
... On 16/07/2019 05:46, Gunner Asch wrote: While I love annular cutters for use in the lathe and BP the 3/4" shank may be a problem for the OPs requirements so a simple hole saw such as a Starrett bi-metal hole saw would be more than adequate. Such as https://www.amazon.com/HSS-BI-METAL-.../dp/B01DO4WNA8 . Hand-held hole saws up to 4" worked well enough for me when I was installing conduit into steel control boxes. Use a slow drill, like 500 RPM. |
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On 7/17/2019 10:04 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
"David Billington" wrote in message ... On 16/07/2019 05:46, Gunner Asch wrote: While I love annular cutters for use in the lathe and BP the 3/4" shank may be a problem for the OPs requirements so a simple hole saw such as a Starrett bi-metal hole saw would be more than adequate. Such as https://www.amazon.com/HSS-BI-METAL-.../dp/B01DO4WNA8 . Hand-held hole saws up to 4" worked well enough for me when I was installing conduit into steel control boxes. Use a slow drill, like 500 RPM. Â* My wrists won't take it any more ... -- Snag Yes , I'm old and crochety - and armed . Get outta my woods ! |
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"Terry Coombs" wrote in message
... On 7/17/2019 10:04 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote: "David Billington" wrote in message ... On 16/07/2019 05:46, Gunner Asch wrote: While I love annular cutters for use in the lathe and BP the 3/4" shank may be a problem for the OPs requirements so a simple hole saw such as a Starrett bi-metal hole saw would be more than adequate. Such as https://www.amazon.com/HSS-BI-METAL-.../dp/B01DO4WNA8 . Hand-held hole saws up to 4" worked well enough for me when I was installing conduit into steel control boxes. Use a slow drill, like 500 RPM. My wrists won't take it any more ... -- Snag Yes , I'm old and crochety - and armed . Get outta my woods ! IIRC the magnetic-base drill wouldn't hold reliably on vertical painted sheet metal and the hydraulic Greenlee hole punch was even more heavy and awkward than the D-handled Milwaukee drill and hole saw. That was one of the difficult manual metalworking tasks that prompted me to buy a milling machine. |
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On Thursday, July 18, 2019 at 7:10:25 AM UTC-4, Jim Wilkins wrote:
"Terry Coombs" wrote in message ... On 7/17/2019 10:04 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote: "David Billington" wrote in message ... On 16/07/2019 05:46, Gunner Asch wrote: While I love annular cutters for use in the lathe and BP the 3/4" shank may be a problem for the OPs requirements so a simple hole saw such as a Starrett bi-metal hole saw would be more than adequate. Such as https://www.amazon.com/HSS-BI-METAL-.../dp/B01DO4WNA8 . Hand-held hole saws up to 4" worked well enough for me when I was installing conduit into steel control boxes. Use a slow drill, like 500 RPM. My wrists won't take it any more ... -- Snag Yes , I'm old and crochety - and armed . Get outta my woods ! IIRC the magnetic-base drill wouldn't hold reliably on vertical painted sheet metal and the hydraulic Greenlee hole punch was even more heavy and awkward than the D-handled Milwaukee drill and hole saw. That was one of the difficult manual metalworking tasks that prompted me to buy a milling machine. Milling machine to make holes in wall-mounted electrical boxes? I'd love to see that setup. |
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"rangerssuck" wrote in message
... On Thursday, July 18, 2019 at 7:10:25 AM UTC-4, Jim Wilkins wrote: "Terry Coombs" wrote in message ... On 7/17/2019 10:04 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote: "David Billington" wrote in message ... On 16/07/2019 05:46, Gunner Asch wrote: While I love annular cutters for use in the lathe and BP the 3/4" shank may be a problem for the OPs requirements so a simple hole saw such as a Starrett bi-metal hole saw would be more than adequate. Such as https://www.amazon.com/HSS-BI-METAL-.../dp/B01DO4WNA8 . Hand-held hole saws up to 4" worked well enough for me when I was installing conduit into steel control boxes. Use a slow drill, like 500 RPM. My wrists won't take it any more ... -- Snag Yes , I'm old and crochety - and armed . Get outta my woods ! IIRC the magnetic-base drill wouldn't hold reliably on vertical painted sheet metal and the hydraulic Greenlee hole punch was even more heavy and awkward than the D-handled Milwaukee drill and hole saw. That was one of the difficult manual metalworking tasks that prompted me to buy a milling machine. Milling machine to make holes in wall-mounted electrical boxes? I'd love to see that setup. I progressed to building more sophisticated equipment for less hostile workplaces; no more wash-downs or oil spray. https://www.alliedelec.com/m/d/bc893...8d640f9f0d.pdf Since these electronic enclosures didn't need to be liquid tight I could make control panels flat and small enough to mill. I still cut large round holes for fans, and for analog panel meters when I need their fast response more than accuracy, like on the input to an MPPT solar controller. |
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On Thursday, July 18, 2019 at 6:08:04 PM UTC-4, Jim Wilkins wrote:
"rangerssuck" wrote in message ... On Thursday, July 18, 2019 at 7:10:25 AM UTC-4, Jim Wilkins wrote: "Terry Coombs" wrote in message ... On 7/17/2019 10:04 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote: "David Billington" wrote in message ... On 16/07/2019 05:46, Gunner Asch wrote: While I love annular cutters for use in the lathe and BP the 3/4" shank may be a problem for the OPs requirements so a simple hole saw such as a Starrett bi-metal hole saw would be more than adequate. Such as https://www.amazon.com/HSS-BI-METAL-.../dp/B01DO4WNA8 . Hand-held hole saws up to 4" worked well enough for me when I was installing conduit into steel control boxes. Use a slow drill, like 500 RPM. My wrists won't take it any more ... -- Snag Yes , I'm old and crochety - and armed . Get outta my woods ! IIRC the magnetic-base drill wouldn't hold reliably on vertical painted sheet metal and the hydraulic Greenlee hole punch was even more heavy and awkward than the D-handled Milwaukee drill and hole saw. That was one of the difficult manual metalworking tasks that prompted me to buy a milling machine. Milling machine to make holes in wall-mounted electrical boxes? I'd love to see that setup. I progressed to building more sophisticated equipment for less hostile workplaces; no more wash-downs or oil spray. https://www.alliedelec.com/m/d/bc893...8d640f9f0d.pdf Since these electronic enclosures didn't need to be liquid tight I could make control panels flat and small enough to mill. I still cut large round holes for fans, and for analog panel meters when I need their fast response more than accuracy, like on the input to an MPPT solar controller. "Liquid tight stainless control boxes for washdowns" used to be my middle name when I had a ton of work at pharmaceutical plants. Then, "oil tight" became a big issue on machines that drilled & tapped big holes in cast iron - the boxes I was replacing would fill with oil and iron "filings" that were abrasive enough that they'd wear the insulation off the 50-year-old wiring.. Still, I never had a problem with the hydraulic punches, even for 4-inch conduit (though I'd get someone to help with those). That MPPT stuff is pretty cool, and area in which I've yet to tread. |
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Of course I practiced using a hole saw by drilling through wood. The
plug (the cut out part) gets stuck in the hole saw. I might cut through 1/8" thick aluminum for practice, too. Will 3/8" thick aluminum get stuck in the hole saw? Also, for cutting fluid, I have these choices... WD-40, silicon spray, Teflon spray, and the combination of silicon and Teflon, and 3-1 sewing machine oil. Or I could go pick up some cutting fluid from Home Depot if it helps for my 2 cut task. |
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On Thu, 8 Aug 2019 17:01:46 -0000 (UTC), John Doe
wrote: Of course I practiced using a hole saw by drilling through wood. The plug (the cut out part) gets stuck in the hole saw. I might cut through 1/8" thick aluminum for practice, too. Will 3/8" thick aluminum get stuck in the hole saw? Also, for cutting fluid, I have these choices... WD-40, silicon spray, Teflon spray, and the combination of silicon and Teflon, and 3-1 sewing machine oil. Or I could go pick up some cutting fluid from Home Depot if it helps for my 2 cut task. WD-40 is vegitable oil in Kerosene (stoddard solvent) It "works" for use with a hole saw. But then..so does just about anything wet. __ "Poor widdle Wudy...mentally ill, lies constantly, doesnt know who he is, or even what gender "he" is. No more pathetic creature has ever walked the earth. But...he is locked into a mental hospital for the safety of the public. Which is a very good thing." Asun rauhassa, valmistaudun sotaan. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On Monday, July 15, 2019 at 7:59:29 PM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:
I have one regular and one heavy-duty "flying parts" or whatever they are called hole cutters. The heavy duty is too big to cut a 40 mm hole. The small one probably won't cut 1/4"+ thick 6061 aluminum. If the hole saw cuts, it will cut a quarter inch just fine. But, a hole saw in a drill press (vertical downward press) doesn't clear chips from the cut, you have to back out and apply suction, or a brush, or otherwise get the junk out of the kerf. Hole saws work better with horizontal boring, or an active flood of coolant, or lots of back-off-and-clear-waste. |
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