The starter on my Ford Ranger pickup died. I looked on the internet and found a wide range of replacements. The prices ranged from $38 to about $150.. The truck is old and will be replaced soon, so I ordered the cheapest. There were two places that had that price. One was in Calif. and from what I could tell tell the other was in Eastern Tenn. Surprise the place in Tenn. was a vendor thru Walmart. Since I am on East Coast, I ordered from Walmart. Another surprise, the tracking started for place in Mass. And the final surprise....
It was brand new manufactured in China.

It arrived late today and I put it on after dinner. It works fine. At that price I was expecting a rebuilt starter.

Dan

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The starter on my Ford Ranger pickup died. I looked on the internet
and found a wide range of replacements. The prices ranged from $38 to
about $150. The truck is old and will be replaced soon, so I ordered
the cheapest. There were two places that had that price. One was in
Calif. and from what I could tell tell the other was in Eastern Tenn.
Surprise the place in Tenn. was a vendor thru Walmart. Since I am on
East Coast, I ordered from Walmart. Another surprise, the tracking
started for place in Mass. And the final surprise....
It was brand new manufactured in China.

It arrived late today and I put it on after dinner. It works fine.
At that price I was expecting a rebuilt starter.
Dan

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A new brush set fixed my 91 Ranger's starter.
http://www.autozone.com/batteries-st...et/ford/ranger

You might check the alternator brushes. There is a hole for a wire to
restrain the brushes while you install the holder assembly.-jsw

On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 9:41:37 PM UTC-4, Jim Wilkins wrote:


A new brush set fixed my 91 Ranger's starter.
http://www.autozone.com/batteries-st...et/ford/ranger

You might check the alternator brushes. There is a hole for a wire to
restrain the brushes while you install the holder assembly.-jsw

I might do some more looking just for grins. Looking at Autozone, they have replacement brushes for my truck ( a 94 4 cyl. ) for exactly the same price ( $37.99 including shipping ) as I paid for the whole starter.

In about 93 Ford changed to a permanent magnet starter with built in gear reduction. Suppose to have a bunch of advantages. The ( pmgr ) starter will replace the 91 starter ( at least for the 2.3 engine. )

Dan

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On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 9:41:37 PM UTC-4, Jim Wilkins wrote:


A new brush set fixed my 91 Ranger's starter.
http://www.autozone.com/batteries-st...et/ford/ranger

You might check the alternator brushes. There is a hole for a wire
to
restrain the brushes while you install the holder assembly.-jsw

I might do some more looking just for grins. Looking at Autozone,
they have replacement brushes for my truck ( a 94 4 cyl. ) for
exactly the same price ( $37.99 including shipping ) as I paid for
the whole starter.

In about 93 Ford changed to a permanent magnet starter with built in
gear reduction. Suppose to have a bunch of advantages. The (
pmgr ) starter will replace the 91 starter ( at least for the 2.3
engine. )

Dan

I have the 2.3l. The original starter draws around 150A when the
engine is warm, according to Autozone's portable clamp-on tester. The
carefully maintained Interstate battery installed in 2002 has dropped
to about 200A, not much of a margin. Can you easily determine the draw
of the PM one?

I'm not too cheap to replace the battery, I'm testing ways to follow
the battery makers' maintenance recommendations. So far monthly top-up
charging and occasional equalizing from my solar panels has worked
well. The battery seems to be in better condition now than a few years
ago when I started checking it and found two weak cells.

It looks like the trickle charger for old batteries should have
adjustable voltage output and voltage and current meters. An LM317 or
LM350 and this meter is enough:
https://www.amazon.com/DROK-Accuracy...FH2SWMD9THBPDP

I haven't found much need for a current limit since the current
automatically decreases as the battery voltage rises, unless it's
badly sulfated.

-jsw

On Tue, 1 Aug 2017 09:29:24 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
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On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 9:41:37 PM UTC-4, Jim Wilkins wrote:


A new brush set fixed my 91 Ranger's starter.
http://www.autozone.com/batteries-st...et/ford/ranger

You might check the alternator brushes. There is a hole for a wire
to
restrain the brushes while you install the holder assembly.-jsw

I might do some more looking just for grins. Looking at Autozone,
they have replacement brushes for my truck ( a 94 4 cyl. ) for
exactly the same price ( $37.99 including shipping ) as I paid for
the whole starter.

In about 93 Ford changed to a permanent magnet starter with built in
gear reduction. Suppose to have a bunch of advantages. The (
pmgr ) starter will replace the 91 starter ( at least for the 2.3
engine. )

Dan

I have the 2.3l. The original starter draws around 150A when the
engine is warm, according to Autozone's portable clamp-on tester. The
carefully maintained Interstate battery installed in 2002 has dropped
to about 200A, not much of a margin. Can you easily determine the draw
of the PM one?

I'm not too cheap to replace the battery, I'm testing ways to follow
the battery makers' maintenance recommendations. So far monthly top-up
charging and occasional equalizing from my solar panels has worked
well. The battery seems to be in better condition now than a few years
ago when I started checking it and found two weak cells.

It looks like the trickle charger for old batteries should have
adjustable voltage output and voltage and current meters. An LM317 or
LM350 and this meter is enough:
https://www.amazon.com/DROK-Accuracy...FH2SWMD9THBPDP

I haven't found much need for a current limit since the current
automatically decreases as the battery voltage rises, unless it's
badly sulfated.

-jsw

The ford PM starter I have on the CorvAir engine draws no more than 75
amps cranking 2.7 liters .

On 07/31/2017 8:15 PM, wrote:
The starter on my Ford Ranger pickup died. I looked on the internet
and found a wide range of replacements. The prices ranged from $38 to
about $150. The truck is old and will be replaced soon, so I ordered the
cheapest. There were two places that had that price. One was in Calif.
and from what I could tell tell the other was in Eastern Tenn. Surprise
the place in Tenn. was a vendor thru Walmart. Since I am on East Coast,
I ordered from Walmart. Another surprise, the tracking started for place
in Mass. And the final surprise....
It was brand new manufactured in China.

It arrived late today and I put it on after dinner. It works fine.
At that price I was expecting a rebuilt starter.

Dan

I ordered a replacement alternator for the little JD 955 utility tractor
that Mr Deere wanted nearly $300 for rebuilt. It was about $90 iirc;
came w/ test strip and all. Worked out of the box but died inside a week.

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On 07/31/2017 8:15 PM, wrote:
The starter on my Ford Ranger pickup died. I looked on the internet
and found a wide range of replacements. The prices ranged from $38
to
about $150. The truck is old and will be replaced soon, so I
ordered the
cheapest. There were two places that had that price. One was in
Calif.
and from what I could tell tell the other was in Eastern Tenn.
Surprise
the place in Tenn. was a vendor thru Walmart. Since I am on East
Coast,
I ordered from Walmart. Another surprise, the tracking started for
place
in Mass. And the final surprise....
It was brand new manufactured in China.

It arrived late today and I put it on after dinner. It works fine.
At that price I was expecting a rebuilt starter.

Dan

I ordered a replacement alternator for the little JD 955 utility
tractor that Mr Deere wanted nearly $300 for rebuilt. It was about
$90 iirc; came w/ test strip and all. Worked out of the box but
died inside a week.

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That's no fun. Could you get your money back?

When the starter pinion on my 1980's Sears garden tractor stripped I
unexpectedly found the replacement at the local hardware store.
-jsw

On Mon, 31 Jul 2017 18:15:39 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

The starter on my Ford Ranger pickup died. I looked on the internet and found a wide range of replacements. The prices ranged from $38 to about $150. The truck is old and will be replaced soon, so I ordered the cheapest. There were two places that had that price. One was in Calif. and from what I could tell tell the other was in Eastern Tenn. Surprise the place in Tenn. was a vendor thru Walmart. Since I am on East Coast, I ordered from Walmart. Another surprise, the tracking started for place in Mass. And the final surprise....
It was brand new manufactured in China.

It arrived late today and I put it on after dinner. It works fine. At that price I was expecting a rebuilt starter.

Dan
They can build them in China for about what it costs to clean them for
rebuilding in North America.

On Mon, 31 Jul 2017 23:45:30 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 31 Jul 2017 18:15:39 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

The starter on my Ford Ranger pickup died. I looked on the internet and found a wide range of replacements. The prices ranged from $38 to about $150. The truck is old and will be replaced soon, so I ordered the cheapest. There were two places that had that price. One was in Calif. and from what I could tell tell the other was in Eastern Tenn. Surprise the place in Tenn. was a vendor thru Walmart. Since I am on East Coast, I ordered from Walmart. Another surprise, the tracking started for place in Mass. And the final surprise....
It was brand new manufactured in China.

It arrived late today and I put it on after dinner. It works fine. At that price I was expecting a rebuilt starter.

Dan
They can build them in China for about what it costs to clean them for
rebuilding in North America.

From
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ges_by_country

Nominal hourly salary in China - US$ 0.87
Nominal hourly salary in U.S. - US$10.13

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Cheers,

John B.

On 7/31/2017 9:15 PM, wrote:
The starter on my Ford Ranger pickup died. I looked on the internet and found a wide range of replacements. The prices ranged from $38 to about $150. The truck is old and will be replaced soon, so I ordered the cheapest. There were two places that had that price. One was in Calif. and from what I could tell tell the other was in Eastern Tenn. Surprise the place in Tenn. was a vendor thru Walmart. Since I am on East Coast, I ordered from Walmart. Another surprise, the tracking started for place in Mass. And the final surprise....
It was brand new manufactured in China.

It arrived late today and I put it on after dinner. It works fine. At that price I was expecting a rebuilt starter.

Dan

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Yep, the chinks will do anything for our hard currency and their quality
is just fine. Part of the reason I retired.