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Its a car of course. Motorcycles only have (2) wheels.

Even the 3 wheelers in the US are registered as "cars"

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Its a car of course. Motorcycles only have (2) wheels.

Even the 3 wheelers in the US are registered as "cars"

Gunner


That may be true , but you're required to wear the same protective gear as a
motorcycle rider in most places .

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Its a car of course. Motorcycles only have (2) wheels.

Even the 3 wheelers in the US are registered as "cars"

Gunner


That may be true , but you're required to wear the same protective gear as a
motorcycle rider in most places .


Actually, trikes or motorcycles with sidecars, are considered....
motorcycles. At least in California. They only require a class C
license. Other states may vary.

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/motorcycles/motorcycles


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Its a car of course. Motorcycles only have (2) wheels.

Even the 3 wheelers in the US are registered as "cars"

Gunner


That may be true , but you're required to wear the same protective gear as a
motorcycle rider in most places .


In NJ, 3-wheelers are registered as motorcycles. A helmet is
technically required but there's a bill in the legislature to
eliminate that for enclosed 3-wheelers. I don't know the details of
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Gunner Asch wrote:
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http://gentlemanstory.net/wp-content...hudo-udo-3.jpg

Its a car of course. Motorcycles only have (2) wheels.

Even the 3 wheelers in the US are registered as "cars"

Gunner


That may be true , but you're required to wear the same protective gear as a
motorcycle rider in most places .


In NJ, 3-wheelers are registered as motorcycles. A helmet is
technically required but there's a bill in the legislature to
eliminate that for enclosed 3-wheelers. I don't know the details of
that one.


That one is a car conversion, that had had its engine, conveniently,
in the back.

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On 2015-09-24, Ed Huntress wrote:
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Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 23 Sep 2015 22:51:04 -0500, Ignoramus22485
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http://gentlemanstory.net/wp-content...hudo-udo-3.jpg

Its a car of course. Motorcycles only have (2) wheels.

Even the 3 wheelers in the US are registered as "cars"

Gunner

That may be true , but you're required to wear the same protective gear as a
motorcycle rider in most places .


In NJ, 3-wheelers are registered as motorcycles. A helmet is
technically required but there's a bill in the legislature to
eliminate that for enclosed 3-wheelers. I don't know the details of
that one.


That one is a car conversion, that had had its engine, conveniently,
in the back.

i


It still would be registered as a motorcycle in NJ. We have quite a
few 3-wheelers of various types. I even saw one of Morgan's retro SS
models a month ago. It's a replica of their mid-1930s model. I think
it sells for around $40,000.

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Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 23 Sep 2015 22:51:04 -0500, Ignoramus22485
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http://gentlemanstory.net/wp-content...hudo-udo-3.jpg

Its a car of course. Motorcycles only have (2) wheels.

Even the 3 wheelers in the US are registered as "cars"

Gunner

That may be true , but you're required to wear the same protective
gear as a motorcycle rider in most places .


In NJ, 3-wheelers are registered as motorcycles. A helmet is
technically required but there's a bill in the legislature to
eliminate that for enclosed 3-wheelers. I don't know the details of
that one.


That one is a car conversion, that had had its engine, conveniently,
in the back.

i


Volkswagon (original) bugs are popular for a trike build . Some years are
more desirable , because the differential can be flipped over and the motor
mounted in front of the transaxle . Makes for much better weight
distribution , and keeps the front wheel on the ground where it belongs .

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Gunner Asch wrote:
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Its a car of course. Motorcycles only have (2) wheels.

Even the 3 wheelers in the US are registered as "cars"

Gunner


That may be true , but you're required to wear the same protective gear as a
motorcycle rider in most places .


True indeed.

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Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 23 Sep 2015 22:51:04 -0500, Ignoramus22485
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http://gentlemanstory.net/wp-content...hudo-udo-3.jpg

Its a car of course. Motorcycles only have (2) wheels.

Even the 3 wheelers in the US are registered as "cars"

Gunner


That may be true , but you're required to wear the same protective gear as a
motorcycle rider in most places .


Actually, trikes or motorcycles with sidecars, are considered....
motorcycles. At least in California. They only require a class C
license. Other states may vary.

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/motorcycles/motorcycles


Jon


Humm..thats kinda iffy. Buddy has a trike built from a
Corvair..another one has one built from a VW. Both are considered
cars..and yah..Class C (standard automobile license) rather than an M
(motorcycle) endorsement. Both are registered as cars.

I dont recall how it was considered way back when..when I was a
deputy. But things have changed considerably since then here in Cali.

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In Canada it would be a car - if anything. A motorcycle has no
enclosing bodywork, and both driver and passenger(s) must sit astride
the seat - no benches or buckets.

No idea what they would call it in Russia or wherever that thing was.
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Its a car of course. Motorcycles only have (2) wheels.

Even the 3 wheelers in the US are registered as "cars"

Gunner

Not quite true. The Bombardier 3 wheel roadster is a motorcycle, as is
a wide-glyde Harly conversion, or the Honda Gide Wing 3 wheel
conversions, and the Harley Serv-a-car.
If it has bodywork it is a car. If it has "bench"seats it is a car - -
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On Wed, 23 Sep 2015 22:51:04 -0500, Ignoramus22485
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http://gentlemanstory.net/wp-content...hudo-udo-3.jpg

Its a car of course. Motorcycles only have (2) wheels.

Even the 3 wheelers in the US are registered as "cars"

Gunner

Not quite true. The Bombardier 3 wheel roadster is a motorcycle, as is
a wide-glyde Harly conversion, or the Honda Gide Wing 3 wheel
conversions, and the Harley Serv-a-car.
If it has bodywork it is a car. If it has "bench"seats it is a car - -
-


Is that regional or in Canada?

Someone needs to check their DMV websites and see what it has to
say..state by state and province by province


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-wheeler

https://dps.mn.gov/divisions/ots/mms...s/default.aspx

http://motorbikewriter.com/trikes-re...ecial-licence/

http://www.dol.wa.gov/driverslicense/gettrike.html

A quick search shows its still a mishmash...but leaning more these
days towards a special endorsement for trikes/sidecars

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Its a car of course. Motorcycles only have (2) wheels.

Even the 3 wheelers in the US are registered as "cars"

Gunner


In NY anything with 3 wheels or less is a bike. The only exceptions are
4 wheeled ATVs which are technically not allowed on the roads anyway.

Biggest PIA is that because of that you have to wear a helmet even in a
fully enclosed trike. So if you build a Tri-Magnum or similar vehicle
you need headroom for your lid.

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....

Actually, trikes or motorcycles with sidecars, are considered....
motorcycles. At least in California. They only require a class C
license. Other states may vary.

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/motorcycles/motorcycles

....

Humm..thats kinda iffy. Buddy has a trike built from a
Corvair..another one has one built from a VW. Both are considered
cars..and yah..Class C (standard automobile license) rather than an M
(motorcycle) endorsement. Both are registered as cars.

....

Neither of the above seems the least surprising...the former start out
as cycles; both of the latter were intially automobiles and so had
titles as such prior to the conversions. A three-legged dog is still a
dog despite the amputation. Or, in obverse a story (possibly
apocryphal) attributed to Lincoln when asked the riddle "How many legs
would a sheep have if I called the tail a leg?" he answered "Only four,
for calling a tail a leg doesn't make it so." (Lincoln supposedly told
the story in conjunction with the difficulty of simply pronouncing the
end of slavery in that declaring freedom wasn't the same thing as
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Humm..thats kinda iffy. Buddy has a trike built from a
Corvair..another one has one built from a VW. Both are considered
cars..and yah..Class C (standard automobile license) rather than an M
(motorcycle) endorsement. Both are registered as cars.


Perhaps one has the option to register as an automobile, maybe some
advantage in insurance rates?


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Humm..thats kinda iffy. Buddy has a trike built from a
Corvair..another one has one built from a VW. Both are considered
cars..and yah..Class C (standard automobile license) rather than an M
(motorcycle) endorsement. Both are registered as cars.


And one wonders a bit at the helmet 'requirement'. If it's a car, then
what's the difference between that and a convertible in terms of "head
protection"?

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On Thu, 24 Sep 2015 01:58:02 -0700, Gunner Asch
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On Wed, 23 Sep 2015 22:51:04 -0500, Ignoramus22485
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http://gentlemanstory.net/wp-content...hudo-udo-3.jpg

Its a car of course. Motorcycles only have (2) wheels.

Even the 3 wheelers in the US are registered as "cars"

Gunner

Not quite true. The Bombardier 3 wheel roadster is a motorcycle, as is
a wide-glyde Harly conversion, or the Honda Gide Wing 3 wheel
conversions, and the Harley Serv-a-car.
If it has bodywork it is a car. If it has "bench"seats it is a car - -
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Is that regional or in Canada?


That is federal.
However drivers licencing is provincial.
3wheel motorcycles require a separate licence up here in Ontario too.
There is limited speed MC, (ML)MC, (M) and 3 wheel MC (MM) licence -
and none are driveable on a standard automotive licence.

What was a Moped is now a limited speed MC, and can no longer be
driven on a standard driver's licence. )scooter or moped up to 70 KPH
and 50cc

Someone needs to check their DMV websites and see what it has to
say..state by state and province by province


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-wheeler

https://dps.mn.gov/divisions/ots/mms...s/default.aspx

http://motorbikewriter.com/trikes-re...ecial-licence/

http://www.dol.wa.gov/driverslicense/gettrike.html

A quick search shows its still a mishmash...but leaning more these
days towards a special endorsement for trikes/sidecars


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I want to see the guy the front seat fits! Big guy or long armed.

Motolimo

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Its a car of course. Motorcycles only have (2) wheels.

Even the 3 wheelers in the US are registered as "cars"

Gunner


That may be true , but you're required to wear the same protective gear
as a motorcycle rider in most places .


AFAIK, in most states trikes get registered as motorcycles -- you need
four wheels to be a "car".

But that varies by jurisdiction. So ask your local DMV/whatever.

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Its a car of course. Motorcycles only have (2) wheels.

Even the 3 wheelers in the US are registered as "cars"

Gunner


In NY anything with 3 wheels or less is a bike. The only exceptions are
4 wheeled ATVs which are technically not allowed on the roads anyway.


So would a Morgan 3 wheeler be considered a motorcycle?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgan_Motor_Company

Biggest PIA is that because of that you have to wear a helmet even in a
fully enclosed trike. So if you build a Tri-Magnum or similar vehicle
you need headroom for your lid.


Ouch!
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On Thu, 24 Sep 2015 01:58:02 -0700, Gunner Asch
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On Wed, 23 Sep 2015 22:51:04 -0500, Ignoramus22485
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http://gentlemanstory.net/wp-content...hudo-udo-3.jpg
Its a car of course. Motorcycles only have (2) wheels.

Even the 3 wheelers in the US are registered as "cars"

Gunner
Not quite true. The Bombardier 3 wheel roadster is a motorcycle, as is
a wide-glyde Harly conversion, or the Honda Gide Wing 3 wheel
conversions, and the Harley Serv-a-car.
If it has bodywork it is a car. If it has "bench"seats it is a car - -
-

Is that regional or in Canada?


That is federal.
However drivers licencing is provincial.
3wheel motorcycles require a separate licence up here in Ontario too.
There is limited speed MC, (ML)MC, (M) and 3 wheel MC (MM) licence -
and none are driveable on a standard automotive licence.

What was a Moped is now a limited speed MC, and can no longer be
driven on a standard driver's licence. )scooter or moped up to 70 KPH
and 50cc
Someone needs to check their DMV websites and see what it has to
say..state by state and province by province


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-wheeler

https://dps.mn.gov/divisions/ots/mms...s/default.aspx

http://motorbikewriter.com/trikes-re...ecial-licence/

http://www.dol.wa.gov/driverslicense/gettrike.html

A quick search shows its still a mishmash...but leaning more these
days towards a special endorsement for trikes/sidecars



It's a real mess in the US. The only real standards are the commercial
licenses, that's because those are now controlled at the federal level.

https://drivinglaws.aaa.com/tag/type...vers-licenses/
covers it pretty well. They do skip a lot of the endorsements though.

It was a big thing in the RV community a while ago. Folks going into
Florida were being pulled over because they were driving out of class.
Seems that those fancy new trucks that offered "best towing in class"
had a GVW over 26,000 pounds. Which puts them into the CDL weight range.

The drivers were being pulled in, the vehicle rating checked and if you
were driving one that had a GVW over 26K you got to pay a fine PLUS you
had to find someone who could legally drive it !!


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Neither of the above seems the least surprising...the former start out
as cycles; both of the latter were intially automobiles and so had
titles as such prior to the conversions. A three-legged dog is still a
dog despite the amputation.



^^^ I got a laugh out of that purrfect response!

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Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 23 Sep 2015 22:51:04 -0500, Ignoramus22485
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http://gentlemanstory.net/wp-content...hudo-udo-3.jpg
Its a car of course. Motorcycles only have (2) wheels.

Even the 3 wheelers in the US are registered as "cars"

Gunner

In NY anything with 3 wheels or less is a bike. The only exceptions are
4 wheeled ATVs which are technically not allowed on the roads anyway.


So would a Morgan 3 wheeler be considered a motorcycle?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgan_Motor_Company
Biggest PIA is that because of that you have to wear a helmet even in a
fully enclosed trike. So if you build a Tri-Magnum or similar vehicle
you need headroom for your lid.


Ouch!


The Morgan 3 wheeler currently is a bike in NY.
There is some legislation in the system to change this rule but it
hasn't moved since May of this year. It was prompted because of the Elio.
(( from an article about the Elio - The company has had to a hire a
lobbyist to pass laws in the many states where its legal status as a
motorcycle would require owners to wear a helmet or have a motorcycle
license. So far, says Elio, the company has changed laws in about 12
states, and has been successful in all but one state where it’s tried.
(Arizona's governor vetoed a bill, because of a rider involving the
legalization of beer bikes))


There is another situation with these vehicles (and 3 wheelers in
general) If you do not have a motorcycle license in NY and decide to get
one. DON'T use anything with three wheels to get it. This is because, if
you show up at the road test with a three wheeled bike, you will get a
restriction on the license saying that you can ONLY operate a three
wheeled vehicle, not a two wheeled bike. OH and don't show up on a moped
or scooter that cannot exceed the speed limit, NY also has restrictions
regarding the maximum speed of the vehicle!


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Gunner Asch wrote:
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http://gentlemanstory.net/wp-content...hudo-udo-3.jpg

Its a car of course. Motorcycles only have (2) wheels.

Even the 3 wheelers in the US are registered as "cars"

Gunner


In NY anything with 3 wheels or less is a bike. The only exceptions are
4 wheeled ATVs which are technically not allowed on the roads anyway.


So would a Morgan 3 wheeler be considered a motorcycle?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgan_Motor_Company


It is in NJ.



Biggest PIA is that because of that you have to wear a helmet even in a
fully enclosed trike. So if you build a Tri-Magnum or similar vehicle
you need headroom for your lid.


Ouch!



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Gunner sed:

Humm..thats kinda iffy. Buddy has a trike built from a
Corvair..another one has one built from a VW. Both are considered
cars..and yah..Class C (standard automobile license) rather than an M
(motorcycle) endorsement. Both are registered as cars.


And one wonders a bit at the helmet 'requirement'. If it's a car, then
what's the difference between that and a convertible in terms of "head
protection"?


All new cars have some kind of rollbar protection built into their
windshield members since 1971, but it was increased as of the 2010
model year. I remember hearing something of this in the early '80s.
http://tinyurl.com/oacfzec or
http://autoweek.com/article/car-news...tandards-fixed

It's probably something like "If there is no seatbelt, you must wear a
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Humm..thats kinda iffy. Buddy has a trike built from a
Corvair..another one has one built from a VW. Both are considered
cars..and yah..Class C (standard automobile license) rather than an M
(motorcycle) endorsement. Both are registered as cars.

I dont recall how it was considered way back when..when I was a
deputy. But things have changed considerably since then here in Cali.

Gunner



Here in PA it would be a motorcycle. 3 wheels, hand throttle, and
handle bars for sterring. thus a motorcycle.

The Can-Am Spyder is a motorcycle in most states I beleive.
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Gunner sed:

Humm..thats kinda iffy. Buddy has a trike built from a
Corvair..another one has one built from a VW. Both are considered
cars..and yah..Class C (standard automobile license) rather than an M
(motorcycle) endorsement. Both are registered as cars.


And one wonders a bit at the helmet 'requirement'. If it's a car, then
what's the difference between that and a convertible in terms of "head
protection"?


All new cars have some kind of rollbar protection built into their
windshield members since 1971, but it was increased as of the 2010
model year. I remember hearing something of this in the early '80s.
http://tinyurl.com/oacfzec or
http://autoweek.com/article/car-news...tandards-fixed

It's probably something like "If there is no seatbelt, you must wear a
helmet."

In Canada - specifically Ontario, Specifically 3 wheelers, if you
sit astride it is a motorcycle. If you sit ON, it is a car - and the
only Delta 3 wheeled motorcycle legal for the road is the CanAm Spider
roadster. The Morgan, to be legal, needs to be a "vintage" morgan,
ans none of the "new" ones have been certified for both safety and
emissions so can not be legally imprted, plated, or driven. - as a
"car"
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Humm..thats kinda iffy. Buddy has a trike built from a
Corvair..another one has one built from a VW. Both are considered
cars..and yah..Class C (standard automobile license) rather than an M
(motorcycle) endorsement. Both are registered as cars.

I dont recall how it was considered way back when..when I was a
deputy. But things have changed considerably since then here in Cali.

Gunner



Here in PA it would be a motorcycle. 3 wheels, hand throttle, and
handle bars for sterring. thus a motorcycle.

The Can-Am Spyder is a motorcycle in most states I beleive.
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That is part of the spec in Ontario too. Sit astride, hand
throttle, handlebar steering - a few other qualifications that put the
Morgan into the "automobile" class - along with that" russian?"
abortion in the first post.
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Jon Anderson wrote:
On 9/25/2015 2:28 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:

Humm..thats kinda iffy. Buddy has a trike built from a
Corvair..another one has one built from a VW. Both are considered
cars..and yah..Class C (standard automobile license) rather than an M
(motorcycle) endorsement. Both are registered as cars.


Perhaps one has the option to register as an automobile, maybe some
advantage in insurance rates?


Jon


I would bet it is more along the lines of "which vehicle do I have legal
paperwork for"


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I heard it is treated as a car from the front two wheels in TX. Doesn't
need a motorcycle license.

Check before you believe it, sometimes you hear crap in your ears.

Martin

On 9/25/2015 8:10 AM, Randy333 wrote:
On Thu, 24 Sep 2015 09:28:45 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:


Humm..thats kinda iffy. Buddy has a trike built from a
Corvair..another one has one built from a VW. Both are considered
cars..and yah..Class C (standard automobile license) rather than an M
(motorcycle) endorsement. Both are registered as cars.

I dont recall how it was considered way back when..when I was a
deputy. But things have changed considerably since then here in Cali.

Gunner



Here in PA it would be a motorcycle. 3 wheels, hand throttle, and
handle bars for sterring. thus a motorcycle.

The Can-Am Spyder is a motorcycle in most states I beleive.
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