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Today I'm cutting up the rest of that roll of rewire I bought last week and
making tomato cages . I'm cutting them so I can overlap the wires leaving
about 2" between verts . The overlap gets MIGged to the verts , two tacks
per horizontal wire . If my calculations are correct , I'll have about 20
feet of wire left to use for supporting the pole beans .
Might make those into zigzags so they'll stand without support . Once the
beans start climbing they're not going anywhere ...
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On 1/27/2015 11:39 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
Today I'm cutting up the rest of that roll of rewire I bought last week and
making tomato cages . I'm cutting them so I can overlap the wires leaving
about 2" between verts . The overlap gets MIGged to the verts , two tacks
per horizontal wire . If my calculations are correct , I'll have about 20
feet of wire left to use for supporting the pole beans .
Might make those into zigzags so they'll stand without support . Once the
beans start climbing they're not going anywhere ...



I've used cages for years, often without satisfaction. This year, I'm
going to try to "string train" my tomatoes. I saw a friend do it and it
worked out well for her and not too much work. I tried Shallots last
year and all, of them failed miserably. Maybe I will try Cannabis...
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On 1/27/2015 11:39 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
Today I'm cutting up the rest of that roll of rewire I bought last
week and making tomato cages . I'm cutting them so I can overlap the
wires leaving about 2" between verts . The overlap gets MIGged to
the verts , two tacks per horizontal wire . If my calculations are
correct , I'll have about 20 feet of wire left to use for supporting
the pole beans . Might make those into zigzags so they'll stand
without support . Once the beans start climbing they're not going
anywhere ...



I've used cages for years, often without satisfaction. This year, I'm
going to try to "string train" my tomatoes. I saw a friend do it and
it worked out well for her and not too much work. I tried Shallots
last year and all, of them failed miserably. Maybe I will try
Cannabis...


Plant it in the cages with the tomatoes ... or so I've been told . Last
year my tomatoes were easily 2 feet over the tops of the 5' cages . My
biggest mistake was planting the pole beans too close to the 'maters . They
ended up sharing several of the cages and both suffered .

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On 1/27/2015 11:39 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
Today I'm cutting up the rest of that roll of rewire I bought last week and
making tomato cages . I'm cutting them so I can overlap the wires leaving
about 2" between verts . The overlap gets MIGged to the verts , two tacks
per horizontal wire . If my calculations are correct , I'll have about 20
feet of wire left to use for supporting the pole beans .
Might make those into zigzags so they'll stand without support . Once the
beans start climbing they're not going anywhere ...



I've used cages for years, often without satisfaction. This year, I'm
going to try to "string train" my tomatoes. I saw a friend do it and it
worked out well for her and not too much work. I tried Shallots last
year and all, of them failed miserably. Maybe I will try Cannabis...

======================
In cased you missed these, here are some YouTube videos on
tomato single vine pruning and string training.
http://tinyurl.com/lvaz2wk
http://tinyurl.com/mtbpbpb


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silver is the money of gentlemen,
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but debt is the money of slaves"

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On 1/27/2015 11:39 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
Today I'm cutting up the rest of that roll of rewire I bought last
week and making tomato cages . I'm cutting them so I can overlap
the wires leaving about 2" between verts . The overlap gets MIGged
to the verts , two tacks per horizontal wire . If my calculations
are correct , I'll have about 20 feet of wire left to use for
supporting the pole beans . Might make those into zigzags so
they'll stand without support . Once the beans start climbing
they're not going anywhere ...



I've used cages for years, often without satisfaction. This year,
I'm going to try to "string train" my tomatoes. I saw a friend do
it and it worked out well for her and not too much work. I tried
Shallots last year and all, of them failed miserably. Maybe I will
try Cannabis...

======================
In cased you missed these, here are some YouTube videos on
tomato single vine pruning and string training.
http://tinyurl.com/lvaz2wk
http://tinyurl.com/mtbpbpb


NO , NO , NO ! I have cages , EVERYBODY has to use cages ! grin I'll
look at the videos after the wife goes to bed , when I interrupt her TV
programs she gets ... well I'll wait until she goes to bed .
All the tomatoes and peppers I want to grow this year are planted in
starter cells now , as soon as they sprout they'll go under a grow light and
other stuff (flowers mostly , because she likes them) will go into the
covered germination trays .
Hey Tom , we're going to get some strawberries this year , I recall you
grow some too . Ours are Ozark Beauty , and looks like we'll have close to a
hundres plants this year - we didn't take any fruit last year so they'd
multiply . They did , we started with 14 .

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Hey Tom , we're going to get some strawberries this year , I recall you
grow some too . Ours are Ozark Beauty , and looks like we'll have close to a
hundres plants this year - we didn't take any fruit last year so they'd
multiply . They did , we started with 14 .

Snag
Kinnardly wait .



The strawberries took over a huge patch of river stone. I can't believe
anything would grow there. We didn't get any fruit, maybe the critters
did. I don't know how much trouble they will be worth, around here they
go for $2/qt and they are big and sweet. The corn is great here too,
this year I will fill the freezer.
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On 1/27/2015 6:52 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
Hey Tom , we're going to get some strawberries this year , I recall you
grow some too . Ours are Ozark Beauty , and looks like we'll have close to a
hundres plants this year - we didn't take any fruit last year so they'd
multiply . They did , we started with 14 .

Snag
Kinnardly wait .


The strawberries took over a huge patch of river stone. I can't believe
anything would grow there. We didn't get any fruit, maybe the critters
did. I don't know how much trouble they will be worth, around here they
go for $2/qt and they are big and sweet. The corn is great here too,
this year I will fill the freezer.


Berries sound good, so maybe I'll join you guys this year. I usually
plant lettuce, radishes, basil, zucchini, and cantaloupe. Last year,
I planted some Japanese eggplant too late and the fingerlings caught
the first frost. It's time to double my planting area and get in some
beans, some potatoes, and maybe some more broccoli. I like the larger
-established- commercial plant output more than what I get from a
yearly crop, though.

So much of commercial plantings are all GMOs that I'm developing an
allergy to corn. It's in everything. Too much corn in my diet
weakens my grip by half and makes my wrists ache badly. (It was hell
figuring that one out.) Anyway, I plant all heritage seed and mulch
with compost for a good, healthy crop. I'm a NO TILL kind of guy, a
fact which makes Spring a whole lot easier. Oh, I was given a kilo of
mycorrhiza when I took the 2009 Oregon Master Gardener course and it
works great. The company is local so we received a wonderful gift.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFjJ844YeDo their video

That class burned me out from gardening for a long time. Talk about a
cram course! Highly recommended, though. If you have one near you,
take it! We filled a 3" binder and covered every word in the syllabus
in 11 weeks. Perhaps it's time to go back through it again to finish
comprehending what was taught.

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tomato single vine pruning and string training.
http://tinyurl.com/lvaz2wk
http://tinyurl.com/mtbpbpb



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Today I'm cutting up the rest of that roll of rewire I bought last
week and making tomato cages . I'm cutting them so I can overlap the
wires leaving about 2" between verts . The overlap gets MIGged to
the verts , two tacks per horizontal wire . If my calculations are
correct , I'll have about 20 feet of wire left to use for supporting
the pole beans .
Might make those into zigzags so they'll stand without support .
Once the beans start climbing they're not going anywhere ...
--
Snag


There's no thought of growing plants here until the Ice Age ends.

My metalworking has been shearing and bending sheet steel from a
scrapped above-ground pool liner into U channel for a generator
noise-reducing enclosure made from 2' x 4' fireproof ceiling tiles,
which need the channel to protect their crumbly edges.

The pool steel is easily within the capacity of my cheap 3-in-1
machine, of a decent hardness and stiffness, and the coating doesn't
rub off in the brake. It's really pretty good stuff for the price of
taking the pool down with an air shear.

The thicker top rails and vertical columns are too much for the 3-in-1
but within range of hammer forming, and this 24 TPI blade cuts them.
http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-BS6412-2.../dp/B0062IBH6A

-jsw


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