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What's the best way to haul around and transport a giant drill press? I'm
steering towards something old 'n heavy like a 20" clausing. The sell sheets indicate about 600 to 650 pounds for the floor standing ones. I can't tell if they can be taken apart, or if that even makes any sense at all. Can they be tossed on their side or across the foot and table and into a work van? They look really top-heavy so I'm unclear on how to wrangle something like that. There may be stairs involved too, for even more fun. |
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"Cydrome Leader" wrote in message
... What's the best way to haul around and transport a giant drill press? I'm steering towards something old 'n heavy like a 20" clausing. The sell sheets indicate about 600 to 650 pounds for the floor standing ones. I can't tell if they can be taken apart, or if that even makes any sense at all. Can they be tossed on their side or across the foot and table and into a work van? They look really top-heavy so I'm unclear on how to wrangle something like that. There may be stairs involved too, for even more fun. I don't have any drill presses that big, but the ones I do have all came new with the head, column, and base separate. The best thing to do is look. That being said, you may need a shop crane to lift the head of a big Clausing up on the column. |
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On Tue, 6 Jan 2015 15:25:28 -0700, "Bob La Londe"
wrote: "Cydrome Leader" wrote in message ... What's the best way to haul around and transport a giant drill press? I'm steering towards something old 'n heavy like a 20" clausing. The sell sheets indicate about 600 to 650 pounds for the floor standing ones. I can't tell if they can be taken apart, or if that even makes any sense at all. Can they be tossed on their side or across the foot and table and into a work van? They look really top-heavy so I'm unclear on how to wrangle something like that. There may be stairs involved too, for even more fun. I don't have any drill presses that big, but the ones I do have all came new with the head, column, and base separate. The best thing to do is look. That being said, you may need a shop crane to lift the head of a big Clausing up on the column. 2 healthy guys can do it..if they plan the lift and have all their ducks in a row before picking it up. "At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child, miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats." PJ O'Rourke |
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On Tue, 6 Jan 2015 21:25:44 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
wrote: What's the best way to haul around and transport a giant drill press? I'm steering towards something old 'n heavy like a 20" clausing. The sell sheets indicate about 600 to 650 pounds for the floor standing ones. I can't tell if they can be taken apart, or if that even makes any sense at all. Can they be tossed on their side or across the foot and table and into a work van? They look really top-heavy so I'm unclear on how to wrangle something like that. There may be stairs involved too, for even more fun. The head on many drill presses will slide down the column. How low it'll go will depend on the table and its height adjustment. You'll need to remove the belt guard if it doesn't have a hole for the column to pass thru. -- Ned Simmons |
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On Tue, 6 Jan 2015 21:25:44 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
wrote: What's the best way to haul around and transport a giant drill press? I'm steering towards something old 'n heavy like a 20" clausing. The sell sheets indicate about 600 to 650 pounds for the floor standing ones. I can't tell if they can be taken apart, or if that even makes any sense at all. Can they be tossed on their side or across the foot and table and into a work van? They look really top-heavy so I'm unclear on how to wrangle something like that. There may be stairs involved too, for even more fun. They need to be taken apart unless you have a forklift. Seriously. Pull off the head, then things get somewhat easier. You can move the parts around on a standard dolly once you have broken it down into sections. Ive had to move a lot of that sort of stuff...break it down into manageable sections. Gunner "At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child, miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats." PJ O'Rourke |
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Gunner Asch fired this volley in
news They need to be taken apart unless you have a forklift. Seriously. Pull off the head, then things get somewhat easier. You can move the parts around on a standard dolly once you have broken it down into sections. Ive had to move a lot of that sort of stuff...break it down into manageable sections. That's the way I handled my Solberga, getting it home. The heavy part is the good part when you start using it! Lloyd |
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On Tue, 06 Jan 2015 20:42:24 -0600, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote: Gunner Asch fired this volley in news They need to be taken apart unless you have a forklift. Seriously. Pull off the head, then things get somewhat easier. You can move the parts around on a standard dolly once you have broken it down into sections. Ive had to move a lot of that sort of stuff...break it down into manageable sections. That's the way I handled my Solberga, getting it home. The heavy part is the good part when you start using it! Lloyd Cause Im such a gentle giant...(snicker)...folks often forget that I repair, move, update, fix, modify etc etc machine tools/compressors/machine shop electrical...etc etc. for a living and have done so for almost 20 yrs. The only thing I dont do..is scraping..and Ive done a tiny bit of that but please..dont tell anybody!! And yeah..Ive busted (1) machine by moving it wrong. Fortunately..it was my own. Gunner "At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child, miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats." PJ O'Rourke |
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On Tue, 06 Jan 2015 19:03:32 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote: On Tue, 06 Jan 2015 20:42:24 -0600, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote: Gunner Asch fired this volley in news They need to be taken apart unless you have a forklift. Seriously. Pull off the head, then things get somewhat easier. You can move the parts around on a standard dolly once you have broken it down into sections. Ive had to move a lot of that sort of stuff...break it down into manageable sections. That's the way I handled my Solberga, getting it home. The heavy part is the good part when you start using it! Lloyd Cause Im such a gentle giant...(snicker)...folks often forget that I repair, move, update, fix, modify etc etc machine tools/compressors/machine shop electrical...etc etc. for a living and have done so for almost 20 yrs. The only thing I dont do..is scraping..and Ive done a tiny bit of that but please..dont tell anybody!! Hah! I'd never cop to that in public. Some journalist might publish it somewhere, and -then- where would you be? And yeah..Ive busted (1) machine by moving it wrong. Fortunately..it was my own. A "learning day", eh? I hate those, but they make us better. See? The number is still 1. -- I’ve long been passionate about protecting and expanding democracy, which is really the only viable mechanism to preserve liberty and distribute power from kings to the rest of us. --George Farah |
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Gunner Asch wrote:
On Tue, 6 Jan 2015 21:25:44 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: What's the best way to haul around and transport a giant drill press? I'm steering towards something old 'n heavy like a 20" clausing. The sell sheets indicate about 600 to 650 pounds for the floor standing ones. I can't tell if they can be taken apart, or if that even makes any sense at all. Can they be tossed on their side or across the foot and table and into a work van? They look really top-heavy so I'm unclear on how to wrangle something like that. There may be stairs involved too, for even more fun. They need to be taken apart unless you have a forklift. Seriously. Pull off the head, then things get somewhat easier. You can move the Is it possible to tip the thing over onto cribbing to wrangle the head off at a manageable height? parts around on a standard dolly once you have broken it down into sections. Ive had to move a lot of that sort of stuff...break it down into manageable sections. Can the table be easily removed from a clausing? There appears to be a gear mechanism with some sort of stops, although I can't see exactly how it works. |
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On Wed, 7 Jan 2015 06:09:49 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
wrote: Gunner Asch wrote: On Tue, 6 Jan 2015 21:25:44 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: What's the best way to haul around and transport a giant drill press? I'm steering towards something old 'n heavy like a 20" clausing. The sell sheets indicate about 600 to 650 pounds for the floor standing ones. I can't tell if they can be taken apart, or if that even makes any sense at all. Can they be tossed on their side or across the foot and table and into a work van? They look really top-heavy so I'm unclear on how to wrangle something like that. There may be stairs involved too, for even more fun. They need to be taken apart unless you have a forklift. Seriously. Pull off the head, then things get somewhat easier. You can move the Is it possible to tip the thing over onto cribbing to wrangle the head off at a manageable height? Sure if you have enough people to ease it down. parts around on a standard dolly once you have broken it down into sections. Ive had to move a lot of that sort of stuff...break it down into manageable sections. Can the table be easily removed from a clausing? There appears to be a gear mechanism with some sort of stops, although I can't see exactly how it works. Depends on which Clausing. The bigger ones have a geared rack mechanism that carries the table and can be loosened and then removed, https://www.google.com/search?q=clausing+drill+presses&safe=off&source=ln ms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=MyCtVJDIG5S7ogSAw4DoBA&ved=0CA kQ_AUoAg&biw=1280&bih=878 Gunner "At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child, miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats." PJ O'Rourke |
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On 2015-01-06, Cydrome Leader wrote:
What's the best way to haul around and transport a giant drill press? I'm steering towards something old 'n heavy like a 20" clausing. The sell sheets indicate about 600 to 650 pounds for the floor standing ones. I can't tell if they can be taken apart, or if that even makes any sense at all. Can they be tossed on their side or across the foot and table and into a work van? They look really top-heavy so I'm unclear on how to wrangle something like that. There may be stairs involved too, for even more fun. Disassemble it, if you cannot get paid rigging help. i |
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Ignoramus23858 wrote:
On 2015-01-06, Cydrome Leader wrote: What's the best way to haul around and transport a giant drill press? I'm steering towards something old 'n heavy like a 20" clausing. The sell sheets indicate about 600 to 650 pounds for the floor standing ones. I can't tell if they can be taken apart, or if that even makes any sense at all. Can they be tossed on their side or across the foot and table and into a work van? They look really top-heavy so I'm unclear on how to wrangle something like that. There may be stairs involved too, for even more fun. Disassemble it, if you cannot get paid rigging help. How much does something like that cost to move, from about 35 miles NW of the city to just west of downtown? A serious ramp of liftgate would be needed at both ends of the tip. Tearing the thing apart would appear to require some sort of hoist or gantry to even get the head off the pedestal, and it's not really clear on how it's attached in the first place. Other forums indicate people have tipped them over and hauled them around, but there were warnings about cracking the table or base from putting weird strains on it. The weight doesn't bother me as much as the fact that it wants to fall over on somebody or something. There don't seem to be as many 16" ones out there, and anything smaller is just a rebadged import. |
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On Wed, 7 Jan 2015 06:04:06 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
wrote: Ignoramus23858 wrote: On 2015-01-06, Cydrome Leader wrote: What's the best way to haul around and transport a giant drill press? I'm steering towards something old 'n heavy like a 20" clausing. The sell sheets indicate about 600 to 650 pounds for the floor standing ones. I can't tell if they can be taken apart, or if that even makes any sense at all. Can they be tossed on their side or across the foot and table and into a work van? They look really top-heavy so I'm unclear on how to wrangle something like that. There may be stairs involved too, for even more fun. Disassemble it, if you cannot get paid rigging help. How much does something like that cost to move, from about 35 miles NW of the city to just west of downtown? A serious ramp of liftgate would be needed at both ends of the tip. Tearing the thing apart would appear to require some sort of hoist or gantry to even get the head off the pedestal, and it's not really clear on how it's attached in the first place. Other forums indicate people have tipped them over and hauled them around, but there were warnings about cracking the table or base from putting weird strains on it. The weight doesn't bother me as much as the fact that it wants to fall over on somebody or something. There don't seem to be as many 16" ones out there, and anything smaller is just a rebadged import. https://www.google.com/search?q=clausing+16+drill+press&safe=off&biw=1280 &bih=878&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=RiGtVOW_OtDl oASSpYHgDA&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAg Clausing 16" drill press photos above Clausing made many many smaller drill presses, including pulley change speed types. Ones made in the last 10 yrs or so tended to be rebadged imports..but prior to that..USA. You may not find them in your area...but there are hundreds of thousands of them out there. If you will view this photo http://i.imgur.com/H282S.jpg You will see a 16" head with the belt cover removed. See the shiny bolt head? The other side of the drill has the nut. Its hard to see..but below the head is a gray ring..thats the "support ring" which is held in place with a couple allen screws. Loosen up that nut on the end of the clamp bolt AFTER gently laying it on its right side..ON A BLOCK OF WOOD..and simply wobble the head off the column. The rest of it isn't so bad and can be moved with a standard 2 wheel dolly. Move and reassemble in reverse order. Its far easier (though not easy...for 2 guys to simply loosen the head while its vertical and wobble the head upwards and off. A well secured pair of slings makes it easy peasy with a Forklift/chain fall, winch etc etc. Its not all that heavy..I can pick one up without much of an effort. But they really don't have handles on them and are clumsy as hell. I should mention..that the front cover of the machine..the one with the speed range dial..adjuster on it is cast iron. Drop it or apply too much pressure on that..and it shears off. And they are a pain in the ass to braze back together again. Btdt for clients who ****ed up and handled one wrong. Gunner Gunner "At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child, miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats." PJ O'Rourke |
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I am guessing that you can find someone willing to bring it to your
driveway for $700 or less. i On 2015-01-07, Cydrome Leader wrote: Ignoramus23858 wrote: On 2015-01-06, Cydrome Leader wrote: What's the best way to haul around and transport a giant drill press? I'm steering towards something old 'n heavy like a 20" clausing. The sell sheets indicate about 600 to 650 pounds for the floor standing ones. I can't tell if they can be taken apart, or if that even makes any sense at all. Can they be tossed on their side or across the foot and table and into a work van? They look really top-heavy so I'm unclear on how to wrangle something like that. There may be stairs involved too, for even more fun. Disassemble it, if you cannot get paid rigging help. How much does something like that cost to move, from about 35 miles NW of the city to just west of downtown? A serious ramp of liftgate would be needed at both ends of the tip. Tearing the thing apart would appear to require some sort of hoist or gantry to even get the head off the pedestal, and it's not really clear on how it's attached in the first place. Other forums indicate people have tipped them over and hauled them around, but there were warnings about cracking the table or base from putting weird strains on it. The weight doesn't bother me as much as the fact that it wants to fall over on somebody or something. There don't seem to be as many 16" ones out there, and anything smaller is just a rebadged import. |
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"Ignoramus15930" wrote in message ... I am guessing that you can find someone willing to bring it to your driveway for $700 or less. i I moved my johanson gear head drill press useing a cherry picker (engine hoist) and a u-haul pickup truck. About 1500lbs. A come along and a movers hand truck with straps got it in the down the stairs into the basement. Total moving cost was under $100. A knock down cherry picker is a good investment if your gonna move small machines around your shop. Best Regards Tom. |
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On 1/7/2015 4:49 PM, Howard Beal wrote:
I moved my johanson gear head drill press useing ... a u-haul pickup truck. About 1500lbs. ... Boy, 1500 lbs is REALLY small for a pickup truck BG |
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On 2015-01-07, Howard Beal wrote:
"Ignoramus15930" wrote in message ... I am guessing that you can find someone willing to bring it to your driveway for $700 or less. I moved my johanson gear head drill press useing a cherry picker (engine hoist) and a u-haul pickup truck. About 1500lbs. A come along and a movers hand truck with straps got it in the down the stairs into the basement. Total moving cost was under $100. A knock down cherry picker is a good investment if your gonna move small machines around your shop. I did the same with Powermatic 1200 drill press a while ago. i |
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