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The Case Against Academic Boycotts of Israel
http://fathomjournal.org/book-review...tts-of-israel/
"While some contributions - most notably one of Ilan Troen's two - highlight both synchronically and diachronically the abundance and diversity of boycotts of Israel and Jews invoked by Berman's characterisation, it is evident that the major thrust of virtually all presentations concentrate on the contemporary situation in American post-secondary education and thus on a decidedly left-wing version of this phenomenon. Indeed, as Cary Nelson correctly points out in his introduction, boycotting Israel as a solid manifestation of detesting its very existence has become arguably the single most potent marker of being of the left today. He quotes one of the global left's most cherished gurus, the Italian philosopher Gianni Vattimo, who states the obvious that, 'by now, anti-Zionism is synonymous with leftist world politics.' Even if one is explicitly and actively anti-racist and anti-sexist, opposed to oppression, favours economic equality, fights for workers rights, actively supports the LGBT community, advocates strict gun control, stands for ecological reforms; one will be at best a very suspect, indeed even an unwelcome, member of what constitutes today's left and being progressive without having decidedly and explicitly anti-Zionist views." |
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The Case Against Academic Boycotts of Israel
On Friday, November 7, 2014 9:53:27 PM UTC-5, jon_banquer wrote:
Even if one is explicitly and actively anti-racist and anti-sexist, opposed to oppression, favours economic equality, fights for workers rights, actively supports the LGBT community, advocates strict gun control, stands for ecological reforms; one will be at best a very suspect, indeed even an unwelcome, member of what constitutes today's left and being progressive without having decidedly and explicitly anti-Zionist views." I can't see having ALL of those progressive leftist "Peace and Love" qualities AND be against a certain religion. |
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The Case Against Academic Boycotts of Israel
On Saturday, November 8, 2014 7:48:17 AM UTC-8, wrote:
On Friday, November 7, 2014 9:53:27 PM UTC-5, jon_banquer wrote: Even if one is explicitly and actively anti-racist and anti-sexist, opposed to oppression, favours economic equality, fights for workers rights, actively supports the LGBT community, advocates strict gun control, stands for ecological reforms; one will be at best a very suspect, indeed even an unwelcome, member of what constitutes today's left and being progressive without having decidedly and explicitly anti-Zionist views." I can't see having ALL of those progressive leftist "Peace and Love" qualities AND be against a certain religion. The Democratic party has been hijacked by the "progressive" radical left. |
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The Case Against Academic Boycotts of Israel
On Saturday, November 8, 2014 11:41:36 AM UTC-5, jon_banquer wrote:
On Saturday, November 8, 2014 7:48:17 AM UTC-8, wrote: On Friday, November 7, 2014 9:53:27 PM UTC-5, jon_banquer wrote: Even if one is explicitly and actively anti-racist and anti-sexist, opposed to oppression, favours economic equality, fights for workers rights, actively supports the LGBT community, advocates strict gun control, stands for ecological reforms; one will be at best a very suspect, indeed even an unwelcome, member of what constitutes today's left and being progressive without having decidedly and explicitly anti-Zionist views." I can't see having ALL of those progressive leftist "Peace and Love" qualities AND be against a certain religion. The Democratic party has been hijacked by the "progressive" radical left. Would it be better if other forces hijacked it instead? If so, who? |
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The Case Against Academic Boycotts of Israel
On Saturday, November 8, 2014 9:16:26 AM UTC-8, wrote:
On Saturday, November 8, 2014 11:41:36 AM UTC-5, jon_banquer wrote: On Saturday, November 8, 2014 7:48:17 AM UTC-8, wrote: On Friday, November 7, 2014 9:53:27 PM UTC-5, jon_banquer wrote: Even if one is explicitly and actively anti-racist and anti-sexist, opposed to oppression, favours economic equality, fights for workers rights, actively supports the LGBT community, advocates strict gun control, stands for ecological reforms; one will be at best a very suspect, indeed even an unwelcome, member of what constitutes today's left and being progressive without having decidedly and explicitly anti-Zionist views." I can't see having ALL of those progressive leftist "Peace and Love" qualities AND be against a certain religion. The Democratic party has been hijacked by the "progressive" radical left. Would it be better if other forces hijacked it instead? If so, who? It would be better if the Democratic party returned to what they were under say Bill Clinton. The Democrats only have themselves to blame for losing the Senate. |
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The Case Against Academic Boycotts of Israel
On Saturday, November 8, 2014 3:43:26 PM UTC-5, jon_banquer wrote:
On Saturday, November 8, 2014 9:16:26 AM UTC-8, wrote: On Saturday, November 8, 2014 11:41:36 AM UTC-5, jon_banquer wrote: On Saturday, November 8, 2014 7:48:17 AM UTC-8, wrote: On Friday, November 7, 2014 9:53:27 PM UTC-5, jon_banquer wrote: Even if one is explicitly and actively anti-racist and anti-sexist, opposed to oppression, favours economic equality, fights for workers rights, actively supports the LGBT community, advocates strict gun control, stands for ecological reforms; one will be at best a very suspect, indeed even an unwelcome, member of what constitutes today's left and being progressive without having decidedly and explicitly anti-Zionist views." I can't see having ALL of those progressive leftist "Peace and Love" qualities AND be against a certain religion. The Democratic party has been hijacked by the "progressive" radical left. Would it be better if other forces hijacked it instead? If so, who? It would be better if the Democratic party returned to what they were under say Bill Clinton. The Democrats only have themselves to blame for losing the Senate. "The last time Democrats had such a small House delegation, Herbert Hoover was president." -- Politico When the right finally controlled almost everything everywhere back in the late 1920s and early 1930s they ruined almost every country. As a result, practically everyone in America, Europe and Asia) eventually lost their savings and jobs. Wishing for the rightwing to get back into control is wishing for the worst possible events Everywhere. |
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The Case Against Academic Boycotts of Israel
On Saturday, November 8, 2014 11:41:36 AM UTC-5, jon_banquer wrote:
On Saturday, November 8, 2014 7:48:17 AM UTC-8, wrote: On Friday, November 7, 2014 9:53:27 PM UTC-5, jon_banquer wrote: Even if one is explicitly and actively anti-racist and anti-sexist, opposed to oppression, favours economic equality, fights for workers rights, actively supports the LGBT community, advocates strict gun control, stands for ecological reforms; one will be at best a very suspect, indeed even an unwelcome, member of what constitutes today's left and being progressive without having decidedly and explicitly anti-Zionist views." I can't see having ALL of those progressive leftist "Peace and Love" qualities AND be against a certain religion. The Democratic party has been hijacked by the "progressive" radical left. Democratically-run governments have given the reins to non-academic, far-right forces in the past and look what resulted. No one wants to return to that, so democrats depend on the heavy and constant presence of the radical left |
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The Case Against Academic Boycotts of Israel
On Friday, November 7, 2014 9:53:27 PM UTC-5, jon_banquer wrote:
http://fathomjournal.org/book-review...tts-of-israel/ "While some contributions - most notably one of Ilan Troen's two - highlight both synchronically and diachronically the abundance and diversity of boycotts of Israel and Jews invoked by Berman's characterisation, it is evident that the major thrust of virtually all presentations concentrate on the contemporary situation in American post-secondary education and thus on a decidedly left-wing version of this phenomenon. Notice that no particular leader in the American academic setting is actually accused of anti-Semitism. If anti-semetic views were actually stated, then a particular person would be accused. |
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The Case Against Academic Boycotts of Israel
On Saturday, November 8, 2014 9:26:59 AM UTC-8, wrote:
On Friday, November 7, 2014 9:53:27 PM UTC-5, jon_banquer wrote: http://fathomjournal.org/book-review...tts-of-israel/ "While some contributions - most notably one of Ilan Troen's two - highlight both synchronically and diachronically the abundance and diversity of boycotts of Israel and Jews invoked by Berman's characterisation, it is evident that the major thrust of virtually all presentations concentrate on the contemporary situation in American post-secondary education and thus on a decidedly left-wing version of this phenomenon. Notice that no particular leader in the American academic setting is actually accused of anti-Semitism. If anti-semetic views were actually stated, then a particular person would be accused. What I've notice is the hatred for Jews from the radical left. I've also noticed that unions are being pushed to hate Jews by the radical left: http://www.transportworkers.org/about |
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The Case Against Academic Boycotts of Israel
On Saturday, November 8, 2014 3:47:43 PM UTC-5, jon_banquer wrote:
On Saturday, November 8, 2014 9:26:59 AM UTC-8, wrote: On Friday, November 7, 2014 9:53:27 PM UTC-5, jon_banquer wrote: http://fathomjournal.org/book-review...tts-of-israel/ "While some contributions - most notably one of Ilan Troen's two - highlight both synchronically and diachronically the abundance and diversity of boycotts of Israel and Jews invoked by Berman's characterisation, it is evident that the major thrust of virtually all presentations concentrate on the contemporary situation in American post-secondary education and thus on a decidedly left-wing version of this phenomenon. Notice that no particular leader in the American academic setting is actually accused of anti-Semitism. If anti-semetic views were actually stated, then a particular person would be accused. What I've notice is the hatred for Jews from the radical left. I haven't notice the left hating anyone. I've also noticed that unions are being pushed to hate Jews by the radical left. I have noticed political activists who feel limited in their finances to switch parties and claim that leftists are (all of a sudden) hate-mongers and bad and criminals, etc... yes. (Perhaps being paid off by someone - perhaps not - I guess we'll never know)) http://www.transportworkers.org/about This website is not as well known as the AFL-CIO's website. (The AFL-CIO are more mainstream and have PhD's and people with Master's Degrees and Business Leaders who are more influential) |
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The Case Against Academic Boycotts of Israel
On Sunday, November 9, 2014 8:21:48 AM UTC-8, wrote:
I haven't notice the left hating anyone. Many others have. I'll find more links and post them when I get a chance. This website is not as well known as the AFL-CIO's website. Jack Heyman is very well known and so are the exploits of ILWU Local 10 |
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The Case Against Academic Boycotts of Israel
jon_banquer wrote:
On Sunday, November 9, 2014 8:21:48 AM *wrote:* I haven't notice the left hating anyone.* Many others have. I'll find more links and post them when I get a chance.* I define try want to see the names of any associated with the left who've done any of that. And what they've wrote or said. |
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The Case Against Academic Boycotts of Israel
On Sunday, November 9, 2014 8:21:48 AM UTC-8, wrote:
On Saturday, November 8, 2014 3:47:43 PM UTC-5, jon_banquer wrote: On Saturday, November 8, 2014 9:26:59 AM UTC-8, wrote: On Friday, November 7, 2014 9:53:27 PM UTC-5, jon_banquer wrote: http://fathomjournal.org/book-review...tts-of-israel/ "While some contributions - most notably one of Ilan Troen's two - highlight both synchronically and diachronically the abundance and diversity of boycotts of Israel and Jews invoked by Berman's characterisation, it is evident that the major thrust of virtually all presentations concentrate on the contemporary situation in American post-secondary education and thus on a decidedly left-wing version of this phenomenon. Notice that no particular leader in the American academic setting is actually accused of anti-Semitism. If anti-semetic views were actually stated, then a particular person would be accused. What I've notice is the hatred for Jews from the radical left. I haven't notice the left hating anyone. I've also noticed that unions are being pushed to hate Jews by the radical left. I have noticed political activists who feel limited in their finances to switch parties and claim that leftists are (all of a sudden) hate-mongers and bad and criminals, etc... yes. (Perhaps being paid off by someone - perhaps not - I guess we'll never know)) http://www.transportworkers.org/about This website is not as well known as the AFL-CIO's website. (The AFL-CIO are more mainstream and have PhD's and people with Master's Degrees and Business Leaders who are more influential) This video gives you an excellent idea of what radical left "progressive" Democrats are like. They're assholes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf2cCdgwgoM#t=48 |
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