http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/lo...-94251079.html
http://tinyurl.com/25qetm6

The city fathers in Los Angeles say they want to boycott Arizona,
account of the Arizona immigration law. Arizona says, that if you
boycott us, we'll cooperate by shutting off the electrical power that
AZ sells to LA. I think that's so thoughtful of Arizona to help, like
that.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

Stormin Mormon wrote:


http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/lo...-94251079.html
http://tinyurl.com/25qetm6

The city fathers in Los Angeles say they want to boycott Arizona,
account of the Arizona immigration law. Arizona says, that if you
boycott us, we'll cooperate by shutting off the electrical power that
AZ sells to LA. I think that's so thoughtful of Arizona to help, like
that.

the la announcement did say they want to cut all resource links, so we'd
just be enforcing their own edict. we should cut the water that runs down
the colorado too.

regards,
charlie
phx, az

"chaniarts" wrote in message
...
Stormin Mormon wrote:


http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/lo...-94251079.html
http://tinyurl.com/25qetm6

The city fathers in Los Angeles say they want to boycott Arizona,
account of the Arizona immigration law. Arizona says, that if you
boycott us, we'll cooperate by shutting off the electrical power that
AZ sells to LA. I think that's so thoughtful of Arizona to help, like
that.

the la announcement did say they want to cut all resource links, so we'd
just be enforcing their own edict. we should cut the water that runs down
the colorado too.

You can't, because of a treaty signed with Mexico in 1944.

--
Ed Huntress



regards,
charlie
phx, az

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...

"chaniarts" wrote in message
...
Stormin Mormon wrote:


http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/lo...-94251079.html
http://tinyurl.com/25qetm6

The city fathers in Los Angeles say they want to boycott Arizona,
account of the Arizona immigration law. Arizona says, that if you
boycott us, we'll cooperate by shutting off the electrical power that
AZ sells to LA. I think that's so thoughtful of Arizona to help, like
that.

the la announcement did say they want to cut all resource links, so we'd
just be enforcing their own edict. we should cut the water that runs down
the colorado too.

You can't, because of a treaty signed with Mexico in 1944.


Just break the treaty. What are the Mexicans going to do, come across the
border to fight here. Hmm, let me think this over....

"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message
...


http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/lo...-94251079.html
http://tinyurl.com/25qetm6

The city fathers in Los Angeles say they want to boycott Arizona,
account of the Arizona immigration law. Arizona says, that if you
boycott us, we'll cooperate by shutting off the electrical power that
AZ sells to LA. I think that's so thoughtful of Arizona to help, like
that.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.




LA is one to talk. They turned over a US citizen to the feds and had him
deported after doping him up on psych drugs. see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_Guzman

I think all of this boycott nonsense is pandering to retain political power.

--

__
Roger Shoaf

Important factors in selecting a mate:
1] Depth of gene pool
2] Position on the food chain.

"Roger Shoaf" wrote in message
...

"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message
...


http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/lo...-94251079.html
http://tinyurl.com/25qetm6

The city fathers in Los Angeles say they want to boycott Arizona,
account of the Arizona immigration law. Arizona says, that if you
boycott us, we'll cooperate by shutting off the electrical power that
AZ sells to LA. I think that's so thoughtful of Arizona to help, like
that.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.




LA is one to talk. They turned over a US citizen to the feds and had him
deported after doping him up on psych drugs. see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_Guzman

I think all of this boycott nonsense is pandering to retain political
power.


Boycotting was the invention of Jesse Jackson, Jeremiah Wright, Barack
Obama, and the rest of that ilk.

Because We Carry the Fire? wrote:

Boycotting was the invention of Jesse Jackson, Jeremiah Wright, Barack
Obama, and the rest of that ilk.

Now you're being silly:

"The word boycott entered the English language during the Irish "Land
War" and is derived from the name of Captain Charles Boycott, the
estate agent of an absentee landlord, the Earl Erne, on Achill Island
in County Mayo, Ireland, who was subject to social ostracism
organized by the Irish Land League in 1880."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boycott

David

On Wed, 19 May 2010 20:00:49 -0400, "Ed Huntress"
wrote:
snip
the la announcement did say they want to cut all resource links, so we'd
just be enforcing their own edict. we should cut the water that runs down
the colorado too.

You can't, because of a treaty signed with Mexico in 1944.

--
Ed Huntress
========
This may well be the case, but what prevents Arizona from
giving all the "undocumented immigrants" they discover
one-way bus tickets (or if they have a car, gas vouchers) to
LA, Sacramento, etc. as an alternative to immediate
arrest/deportation? Arizona could even include 100$ per
head travel expense money and U-Haul rental and still be
ahead.
--

-- Unka George (George McDuffee)
...............................
The past is a foreign country;
they do things differently there.
L. P. Hartley (1895-1972), British author.
The Go-Between, Prologue (1953).

"Because We Carry the Fire?" wrote in message
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"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...

"chaniarts" wrote in message
...
Stormin Mormon wrote:


http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/lo...-94251079.html
http://tinyurl.com/25qetm6

The city fathers in Los Angeles say they want to boycott Arizona,
account of the Arizona immigration law. Arizona says, that if you
boycott us, we'll cooperate by shutting off the electrical power that
AZ sells to LA. I think that's so thoughtful of Arizona to help, like
that.

the la announcement did say they want to cut all resource links, so we'd
just be enforcing their own edict. we should cut the water that runs
down the colorado too.

You can't, because of a treaty signed with Mexico in 1944.


Just break the treaty. What are the Mexicans going to do, come across the
border to fight here. Hmm, let me think this over....

I think it's more likely that Colorado will cut off Arizona...

--
Ed Huntress

"F. George McDuffee" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 19 May 2010 20:00:49 -0400, "Ed Huntress"
wrote:
snip
the la announcement did say they want to cut all resource links, so we'd
just be enforcing their own edict. we should cut the water that runs
down
the colorado too.

You can't, because of a treaty signed with Mexico in 1944.

--
Ed Huntress
========
This may well be the case, but what prevents Arizona from
giving all the "undocumented immigrants" they discover
one-way bus tickets (or if they have a car, gas vouchers) to
LA, Sacramento, etc. as an alternative to immediate
arrest/deportation? Arizona could even include 100$ per
head travel expense money and U-Haul rental and still be
ahead.
--

-- Unka George (George McDuffee)

I suppose they could, but if they tried it, California could send a LOT more
back to Arizona. Estimates are that California has 8 or 9 times as many as
Arizona.

Arizona is only fifth or sixth in the number of illegals.

--
Ed Huntress

On May 19, 8:55Â*pm, "Because We Carry the Fire?"
wrote:

Boycotting was the invention of Jesse Jackson, Jeremiah Wright, Barack
Obama, and the rest of that ilk.

Are you really that stupid, or are you just that hateful?


boy·cott (boi'k�t')
tr.v. boy·cott·ed, boy·cott·ing, boy·cotts
To abstain from or act together in abstaining from using, buying, or
dealing with as an expression of protest or disfavor or as a means of
coercion. See Synonyms at blackball.
n. The act or an instance of boycotting.

[After Charles C. Boycott (1832-1897), English land agent in Ireland.]
boy'cott'er n.

Word History: Charles C. Boycott seems to have become a household word
because of his strong sense of duty to his employer. An Englishman and
former British soldier, Boycott was the estate agent of the Earl of
Erne in County Mayo, Ireland. The earl was one of the absentee
landowners who as a group held most of the land in Ireland. Boycott
was chosen in the fall of 1880 to be the test case for a new policy
advocated by Charles Parnell, an Irish politician who wanted land
reform. Any landlord who would not charge lower rents or any tenant
who took over the farm of an evicted tenant would be given the
complete cold shoulder by Parnell's supporters. Boycott refused to
charge lower rents and ejected his tenants. At this point members of
Parnell's Irish Land League stepped in, and Boycott and his family
found themselves isolated€”without servants, farmhands, service in
stores, or mail delivery. Boycott's name was quickly adopted as the
term for this treatment, not just in English but in other languages
such as French, Dutch, German, and Russian.

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth
Edition
Copyright © 2009 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.

"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message
...


http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/lo...-94251079.html
http://tinyurl.com/25qetm6

The city fathers in Los Angeles say they want to boycott Arizona,
account of the Arizona immigration law. Arizona says, that if you
boycott us, we'll cooperate by shutting off the electrical power that
AZ sells to LA. I think that's so thoughtful of Arizona to help, like
that.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org

as a resident of los angeles, I encourage arizona to do exactly that.
Please.

and I would like to learn how Jesus would deport immigrants - could you
please explain that to me? I am rapt with attention.

"Bill Noble" wrote in message
...


as a resident of los angeles, I encourage arizona to do exactly that.
Please.

and I would like to learn how Jesus would deport immigrants - could you
please explain that to me? I am rapt with attention.


Depends on which Jesus you are referring to. If it a federal agent by the
name of Jesus, he would put them on a bus or plane and release them to their
country of origin, assuming of course that the immigrant is subject to
deportation.


--

Roger Shoaf

About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then
they come up with this striped stuff.

"Roger Shoaf" wrote in message
...

"Bill Noble" wrote in message
...


as a resident of los angeles, I encourage arizona to do exactly that.
Please.

and I would like to learn how Jesus would deport immigrants - could you
please explain that to me? I am rapt with attention.


Depends on which Jesus you are referring to. If it a federal agent by the
name of Jesus, he would put them on a bus or plane and release them to
their
country of origin, assuming of course that the immigrant is subject to
deportation.


--

Roger Shoaf

About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube,
then
they come up with this striped stuff.


good point roger - I guess I wasn't clear - I was referring to the one in
the previous poster's tag line - I had perhaps mistakenly assumed that it
referred to a minor character mentioned by Heroditus as "Ipse Jesus" in his
famous history of the roman empire, but perhaps I was mistaken - perhaps the
owner of the tag line can clarify for both of us.

"F. George McDuffee" wrote in message
...
========
This may well be the case, but what prevents Arizona from
giving all the "undocumented immigrants" they discover
one-way bus tickets (or if they have a car, gas vouchers) to
LA, Sacramento, etc. as an alternative to immediate
arrest/deportation? Arizona could even include 100$ per
head travel expense money and U-Haul rental and still be
ahead.
--

Not too loud George, I live in CA and if Sheriff Joe catches wind of this
ides he might very well try it.

--
Roger Shoaf
If you are not part of the solution, you are not dissolved in the solvent.

Ed Huntress wrote:

This may well be the case, but what prevents Arizona from
giving all the "undocumented immigrants" they discover
one-way bus tickets (or if they have a car, gas vouchers) to
LA, Sacramento, etc. as an alternative to immediate
arrest/deportation? Arizona could even include 100$ per
head travel expense money and U-Haul rental and still be
ahead.
--

-- Unka George (George McDuffee)

I suppose they could, but if they tried it, California could send a LOT more
back to Arizona. Estimates are that California has 8 or 9 times as many as
Arizona.

Arizona is only fifth or sixth in the number of illegals.

California doesn't have the money to do that, maybe they could give
them all IOUs?

David

"David R.Birch" wrote in message
...
Ed Huntress wrote:

This may well be the case, but what prevents Arizona from
giving all the "undocumented immigrants" they discover
one-way bus tickets (or if they have a car, gas vouchers) to
LA, Sacramento, etc. as an alternative to immediate
arrest/deportation? Arizona could even include 100$ per
head travel expense money and U-Haul rental and still be
ahead.
--

-- Unka George (George McDuffee)

I suppose they could, but if they tried it, California could send a LOT
more back to Arizona. Estimates are that California has 8 or 9 times as
many as Arizona.

Arizona is only fifth or sixth in the number of illegals.

California doesn't have the money to do that, maybe they could give them
all IOUs?

David

They can just hitchhike with some of the other people leaving California.
Everybody gets a map, with a Day-Glo sticker over Phoenix labeled "The
Promised Land."

--
Ed Huntress

"F. George McDuffee" wrote:

On Wed, 19 May 2010 20:00:49 -0400, "Ed Huntress"
wrote:
snip
the la announcement did say they want to cut all resource links, so we'd
just be enforcing their own edict. we should cut the water that runs down
the colorado too.

You can't, because of a treaty signed with Mexico in 1944.

--
Ed Huntress
========
This may well be the case, but what prevents Arizona from
giving all the "undocumented immigrants" they discover
one-way bus tickets (or if they have a car, gas vouchers) to
LA, Sacramento, etc. as an alternative to immediate
arrest/deportation? Arizona could even include 100$ per
head travel expense money and U-Haul rental and still be
ahead.


Even better, put them on the empty ships returning to China. They
are always looking for cheap labor.


--
Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.

"Bill Noble" wrote in message
-
good point roger - I guess I wasn't clear - I was referring to the one in
the previous poster's tag line - I had perhaps mistakenly assumed that it
referred to a minor character mentioned by Heroditus as "Ipse Jesus" in
his
famous history of the roman empire, but perhaps I was mistaken - perhaps
the
owner of the tag line can clarify for both of us.


Bill,

To be fair, Mr. Young, is entitled to believe in the teachings of his
church, just as you or I are free to accept those teachings or reject them
as we choose.

Other than his screen name and his sig line, (Harmless, IMHO) he seldom
allows his religious beliefs to invade his USENET posts.

I don't get the impression that he was suggesting anything more than his
secular opinion when he made the post nor attempting to scold anyone for a
religious viewpoint that may differ from his own.

I suspect however that if you really want to hear his religious take on a
topic he might be willing to give it to you, but I kind of doubt you are
seriously interested in that.

To smoke out his true take on the situation, why not ask if a illegal
immigrant from a predominantly Catholic country who is a convert to the
Mormon faith should be treated any different than a Catholic from that
country. (Excluding cases where religious persecution gives rise to a claim
to asylum.)

I have my suspicions on how Christopher would answer, but I am not going to
predict.

For the sake of disclosing my bias, you can fairly label me a atheist or an
agnostic I don't feel any need to convert anyone from their religion to any
position against their beliefs unless they choose to engage me in the
debate. I have a brother that is a convert to the LDS church and years ago
he was an insufferable zealot. Over the years however, he has toned down
the rhetoric and we get along just fine now.

--

Roger Shoaf

About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then
they come up with this striped stuff.

On May 20, 1:24*am, "Roger Shoaf" wrote:
"Bill Noble" wrote in message

-

good point roger - I guess I wasn't clear - I was referring to the one in
the previous poster's tag line - I had perhaps mistakenly assumed that it
referred to a minor character mentioned by Heroditus as "Ipse Jesus" in
his
famous history of the roman empire, but perhaps I was mistaken - perhaps
the
owner of the tag line can clarify for both of us.

Bill,

To be fair, Mr. Young, is entitled to believe in the teachings of his
church, just as you or I are free to accept those teachings or reject them
as we choose.

Other than his screen name and his sig line, (Harmless, IMHO) he seldom
allows his religious beliefs to invade his USENET posts.

I don't get the impression that he was suggesting anything more than his
secular opinion when he made the post nor attempting to scold anyone for a
religious viewpoint that may differ from his own.

I suspect however that if you really want to hear his religious take on a
topic he might be willing to give it to you, but I kind of doubt you are
seriously interested in that.

To smoke out his true take on the situation, why not ask if a illegal
immigrant from a predominantly Catholic country who is a convert to the
Mormon faith should be treated any different *than a Catholic from that
country. *(Excluding cases where religious persecution gives rise to a claim
to asylum.)

I have my suspicions on how Christopher would answer, but I am not going to
predict.

For the sake of disclosing my bias, you can fairly label me a atheist or an
agnostic *I don't feel any need to convert anyone from their religion to any
position against their beliefs unless they choose to engage me in the
debate. *I have a brother that is a convert to the LDS church and years ago
he was an insufferable zealot. *Over the years however, he has toned down
the rhetoric and we get along just fine now.

--

Roger Shoaf

About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then
they come up with this striped stuff.

I did a major double take this afternoon. My doorbell rang, and there
were three very clean-cut young men in white shirts & black ties,
carrying pamphlets. I immediately concluded that I was about to be
invited to join the Mormon Church.

I was wrong.

They were selling vinyl siding and replacement windows.

I am somewhat disappointed in myself for having been so prejudiced. Of
course, I'm no big fan of home improvement sales people, either. But
all the same, I shouldn't have jumped so quickly to characterize them.

Ed Huntress wrote:

California doesn't have the money to do that, maybe they could give them
all IOUs?

David

They can just hitchhike with some of the other people leaving California.
Everybody gets a map, with a Day-Glo sticker over Phoenix labeled "The
Promised Land."


I haven't hitched out West, but that seems like a lot of hanging out
my thumb in really dry places. Give them a pint of bottled water...
which probably started out in AZ.

David

On Wed, 19 May 2010 21:01:00 -0700, "Roger Shoaf"
wrote the following:


"Bill Noble" wrote in message
...


as a resident of los angeles, I encourage arizona to do exactly that.
Please.

and I would like to learn how Jesus would deport immigrants - could you
please explain that to me? I am rapt with attention.


Depends on which Jesus you are referring to. If it a federal agent by the
name of Jesus, he would put them on a bus or plane and release them to their
country of origin, assuming of course that the immigrant is subject to
deportation.

Jesus just left Chicago, and he's bound for New Orleans.

--
The great thing about getting older is that
you don't lose all the other ages you've been.
-- Madeleine L'Engle

On Wed, 19 May 2010 21:06:08 -0700, "Roger Shoaf"
wrote the following:


"F. George McDuffee" wrote in message
.. .
========
This may well be the case, but what prevents Arizona from
giving all the "undocumented immigrants" they discover
one-way bus tickets (or if they have a car, gas vouchers) to
LA, Sacramento, etc. as an alternative to immediate
arrest/deportation? Arizona could even include 100$ per
head travel expense money and U-Haul rental and still be
ahead.
--

Not too loud George, I live in CA and if Sheriff Joe catches wind of this
ides he might very well try it.

And Tijuana, Tecate, Mexicali, Laredo, Juarez, and Matamoros would all
get new orange and white facelifts from the input of portable housing.

--
The great thing about getting older is that
you don't lose all the other ages you've been.
-- Madeleine L'Engle

On Wed, 19 May 2010 22:24:08 -0700, "Roger Shoaf"
wrote the following:


"Bill Noble" wrote in message
-
good point roger - I guess I wasn't clear - I was referring to the one in
the previous poster's tag line - I had perhaps mistakenly assumed that it
referred to a minor character mentioned by Heroditus as "Ipse Jesus" in
his
famous history of the roman empire, but perhaps I was mistaken - perhaps
the
owner of the tag line can clarify for both of us.


Bill,

To be fair, Mr. Young, is entitled to believe in the teachings of his
church, just as you or I are free to accept those teachings or reject them
as we choose.

Verily! But how many of us flaunt it daily in people's faces as he
does, hmm?


Other than his screen name and his sig line, (Harmless, IMHO)
he seldom allows his religious beliefs to invade his USENET posts.

The daily dose of Mormonism via his screen name and sig are pervasive
enough. It's more bothersome than a cliffypost. I plonked him years
ago but idiots here keep quoting his posts and his bloody preaching
sig.

--
The great thing about getting older is that
you don't lose all the other ages you've been.
-- Madeleine L'Engle

rangerssuck wrote:

I did a major double take this afternoon. My doorbell rang, and there
were three very clean-cut young men in white shirts & black ties,
carrying pamphlets. I immediately concluded that I was about to be
invited to join the Mormon Church.

I was wrong.

They were selling vinyl siding and replacement windows.

I am somewhat disappointed in myself for having been so prejudiced. Of
course, I'm no big fan of home improvement sales people, either. But
all the same, I shouldn't have jumped so quickly to characterize them.

I believe that is called "Profiling". :-)
...lew...

Roger Shoaf wrote:


Jehovah Witnesses seem to keep coming back every year or so just to check if
you might be ready to hear their message.

I love it when the Witlesses come to the door, I ask things like "Why
is your version of the bible written by a committee, if it's divinely
inspired, it shouldn't take more than one writer, should it?"

They don't stay on the porch long.

NEVER invite them in.

David

Rush Limbaugh or some other commentator did just that. When SF (was
it?) declared itself a sanctuary city. Someone showed up with busloads
of homeless people to help out the sanctuary.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"F. George McDuffee" wrote in
message ...

This may well be the case, but what prevents Arizona from
giving all the "undocumented immigrants" they discover
one-way bus tickets (or if they have a car, gas vouchers) to
LA, Sacramento, etc. as an alternative to immediate
arrest/deportation? Arizona could even include 100$ per
head travel expense money and U-Haul rental and still be
ahead.
--

-- Unka George (George McDuffee)

I think that Jesus would comply with the laws of the land. "Render
unto Ceasar...."

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Bill Noble" wrote in message
...

as a resident of los angeles, I encourage arizona to do exactly that.
Please.

and I would like to learn how Jesus would deport immigrants - could
you
please explain that to me? I am rapt with attention.

Or, you can view the web page and help yourself to solve your own
questions.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Bill Noble" wrote in message
...

good point roger - I guess I wasn't clear - I was referring to the one
in
the previous poster's tag line - I had perhaps mistakenly assumed that
it
referred to a minor character mentioned by Heroditus as "Ipse Jesus"
in his
famous history of the roman empire, but perhaps I was mistaken -
perhaps the
owner of the tag line can clarify for both of us.

One fellow at a scrap recycling place near me says the Chinese are
buying a lot of scrap metals. I suspet that we send them scrap metals,
and they send us consumer goods at Walmart, and Harbor Freight.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
m...



Even better, put them on the empty ships returning to China. They
are always looking for cheap labor.


--
Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have
to
have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.

Thanks, I got a good laugh from this.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"rangerssuck" wrote in message
...


I did a major double take this afternoon. My doorbell rang, and there
were three very clean-cut young men in white shirts & black ties,
carrying pamphlets. I immediately concluded that I was about to be
invited to join the Mormon Church.

I was wrong.

They were selling vinyl siding and replacement windows.

I am somewhat disappointed in myself for having been so prejudiced. Of
course, I'm no big fan of home improvement sales people, either. But
all the same, I shouldn't have jumped so quickly to characterize them.

Sometimes, it's referral from someone. And other times, it's just
going up and down the street.

Going up and down the street is at the bottom of the productive
techniques.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Roger Shoaf" wrote in message
...



I'm not certain, but I think the Mormon missionaries usually have some
reason to target the folks they call on, such as a relative has
converted,
or someone has responded to their ads.

I also think they have a policy of accepting a no thank you as an
invitation
to stay away.

Jehovah Witnesses seem to keep coming back every year or so just to
check if
you might be ready to hear their message.

I don't care if a missionary or a salesman knocks, sometimes I will
chat for
a while, sometimes I say no thanks right away it depends on my mood.

I suspect that anyone knocking on folks doors selling anything from
religion, to brushes, to sign my petition , or vacuum cleaners
probably
improve their percentage by dressing nice.


--

Roger Shoaf

About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube,
then
they come up with this striped stuff.

"David R.Birch" wrote in message
...
Roger Shoaf wrote:


Jehovah Witnesses seem to keep coming back every year or so just to check
if
you might be ready to hear their message.

I love it when the Witlesses come to the door, I ask things like "Why is
your version of the bible written by a committee, if it's divinely
inspired, it shouldn't take more than one writer, should it?"

They don't stay on the porch long.

NEVER invite them in.

David

I invite them, have a nice talk, subscribe to everything they have
and give them one of my buddies name and address.

basilisk

Stormin Mormon wrote:

One fellow at a scrap recycling place near me says the Chinese are
buying a lot of scrap metals. I suspet that we send them scrap metals,
and they send us consumer goods at Walmart, and Harbor Freight.


Would you rather have too many cheap tools, or too many Mexicans? ;-)


--
Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.

F. George McDuffee wrote:

This may well be the case, but what prevents Arizona from
giving all the "undocumented immigrants" they discover
one-way bus tickets (or if they have a car, gas vouchers) to
LA, Sacramento, etc. as an alternative to immediate
arrest/deportation? Arizona could even include 100$ per
head travel expense money and U-Haul rental and still be
ahead.

I like your thinking. Send them to sanctuary cities across the country.

Wes
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller

What's that Lassie? You say that Ed Huntress fell down the old
rec.crafts.metalworking mine and will die if we don't mount a rescue
by Wed, 19 May 2010 22:42:55 -0400:

This may well be the case, but what prevents Arizona from
giving all the "undocumented immigrants" they discover
one-way bus tickets (or if they have a car, gas vouchers) to
LA, Sacramento, etc. as an alternative to immediate
arrest/deportation? Arizona could even include 100$ per
head travel expense money and U-Haul rental and still be
ahead.
--

-- Unka George (George McDuffee)

I suppose they could, but if they tried it, California could send a LOT more
back to Arizona. Estimates are that California has 8 or 9 times as many as
Arizona.

How would they identify them? Perhaps California could intact a law
that would let police ask about the immigration status of anyone they
are questioning.

--

Dan H.
northshore MA.

"dan" wrote in message
...
What's that Lassie? You say that Ed Huntress fell down the old
rec.crafts.metalworking mine and will die if we don't mount a rescue
by Wed, 19 May 2010 22:42:55 -0400:

This may well be the case, but what prevents Arizona from
giving all the "undocumented immigrants" they discover
one-way bus tickets (or if they have a car, gas vouchers) to
LA, Sacramento, etc. as an alternative to immediate
arrest/deportation? Arizona could even include 100$ per
head travel expense money and U-Haul rental and still be
ahead.
--

-- Unka George (George McDuffee)

I suppose they could, but if they tried it, California could send a LOT
more
back to Arizona. Estimates are that California has 8 or 9 times as many as
Arizona.

How would they identify them?

The same way Arizona is planning to -- by the color of their skin and the
clothes they wear. Speaking Spanish isn't going to win you any points,
either.

No papers? Too bad, senor.

(BTW, I don't carry "papers," either)

Perhaps California could intact a law
that would let police ask about the immigration status of anyone they
are questioning.

I'd be in trouble. No one in my family has had immigration papers since
1657. And they landed just around where you live.

--
Ed Huntress

Ed Huntress wrote:

-- Unka George (George McDuffee)
I suppose they could, but if they tried it, California could send a LOT
more
back to Arizona. Estimates are that California has 8 or 9 times as many as
Arizona.
How would they identify them?

The same way Arizona is planning to -- by the color of their skin and the
clothes they wear. Speaking Spanish isn't going to win you any points,
either.

No papers? Too bad, senor.

(BTW, I don't carry "papers," either)

Perhaps California could intact a law
that would let police ask about the immigration status of anyone they
are questioning.

Already is on the books in California. In almost the exact same wording
as the law they are crying about in AZ.
Maybe the people there need to read the laws of their own state before
whining about other states.


I'd be in trouble. No one in my family has had immigration papers since
1657. And they landed just around where you live.


If you can trace them back that far you're doing good.

The ones I have a problem with are the people who have "immigrated" here
from whatever country and didn't bother trying to do any legal things to
become citizens. Then they sit there and complain that "I'm a
MEXICAN-american" or "I'm a XXXXXX-american" and deserve special
treatment because of that. BULL.

--
Steve W.
(\___/)
(='.'=)
(")_(")

"Ed Huntress" wrote in news:4bf5d851$0$31278
:

(BTW, I don't carry "papers," either)

Actually, Ed, you do if you still drive a vehicle (Driver's License) or
carry some form of photo ID for check-writing purposes. G

Any government-issued ID qualifies as "papers" these days.

I am a naturalized US citizen. My "immigration paper" is my US
passport. For those born here, the birth certificate is their
"immigration paper". Anyway, I do not see many people who travel or
walk around with passports or birth certificates.

Here's my question. Let's say that I am traveling through Arizona and
am stopped by the police for any reason. They would quickly figure
out, from my accent, that I should be suspected of being an illegal
immigrant. I usually wear cheap clothes, because I do not care, so I
do not look wealthy. My wife speaks with accent too and looks somewhat
Mexican.

Then they would have to haul me (or us) to jail and keep us there, until
somehow we produce our "papers". I do not even know how we would get
them out of our house, if the house is in IL and we are arrested in
AZ.

Somehow that seems overreaching.

What will really happen, of course, is that police will have leverage
over people with accent, as any one of them may be now jailed over a
"suspicion".

I recall how I was stopped by a police because they alleged that my
trailer with the Bridgeport Interact mill exceeded my licensed
capacity. I was able to argue with them and proved, on the spot, that
they were wrong. They let me go. It was a big luck moment.

I am thinking, that if they really wanted to rip me off, with this law
on the books, they would just threaten me with jail over a sudden
"suspicion" about my immigration status. If that happened not in my
state of residence, or especially if I had kids with me, I would have
no choice by to agree.


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