My son has his old matsuura up and running. Its pre LAN connection,
needs the RS232 port to download CNC programs.

I did this ages ago, but have forgot how.

Question 1, how do I wire the cable?

Question 2, what program works with W7 to talk to the control?

Last time I did this it was DOS and Procomm.

Karl

On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 10:25:00 -0500, Karl Townsend
wrote:

My son has his old matsuura up and running. Its pre LAN connection,
needs the RS232 port to download CNC programs.

I did this ages ago, but have forgot how.

Question 1, how do I wire the cable?

In parallel, Karl. (sorry, hadda do it)
http://www.aggsoft.com/rs232-pinout-...232-pinout.gif


Question 2, what program works with W7 to talk to the control?

Win7 doesn't do RS232, and the parallel-to-USB unit I bought didn't
work, which meant giving up my dear old HP DJ5p.

Call Matsuura for help?


Last time I did this it was DOS and Procomm.

Fond memories!


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On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 10:25:00 -0500, Karl Townsend
wrote:

My son has his old matsuura up and running. Its pre LAN connection,
needs the RS232 port to download CNC programs.

I did this ages ago, but have forgot how.

Question 1, how do I wire the cable?

In parallel, Karl. (sorry, hadda do it)
http://www.aggsoft.com/rs232-pinout-...232-pinout.gif


Question 2, what program works with W7 to talk to the control?

Win7 doesn't do RS232, and the parallel-to-USB unit I bought didn't
work, which meant giving up my dear old HP DJ5p.

Call Matsuura for help?


Last time I did this it was DOS and Procomm.

Fond memories!

The Win7 laptop beside me has a back-panel COM1 port set to
9600,8,N,1.

Its Device Manager has an entry for "Ports (COM & LPT)."

Port Settings Advanced accepts settings for COM1 to COM256. COM3
thru COM6 are "(in use)", the upper two for a USB cellular modem that
appears as two virtual COM ports.
-jsw

On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 13:59:03 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 10:25:00 -0500, Karl Townsend
wrote:

My son has his old matsuura up and running. Its pre LAN connection,
needs the RS232 port to download CNC programs.

I did this ages ago, but have forgot how.

Question 1, how do I wire the cable?

In parallel, Karl. (sorry, hadda do it)
http://www.aggsoft.com/rs232-pinout-...232-pinout.gif


Question 2, what program works with W7 to talk to the control?

Win7 doesn't do RS232, and the parallel-to-USB unit I bought didn't
work, which meant giving up my dear old HP DJ5p.

Call Matsuura for help?


Last time I did this it was DOS and Procomm.

Fond memories!
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On Saturday, September 20, 2014 8:25:00 AM UTC-7, Karl Townsend wrote:

My son has his old matsuura up and running. Its pre LAN connection,
needs the RS232 port to download CNC programs.

PinOuts.ru should have the wiring specs.

If you use an RS-232 to USB adapter, some don't use real RS-232 voltage levels, like -3V to -15V for a logical true and +3V to +15V for a logical false, but use 0V for a true, and that doesn't work with some equipment. I'd expect adapters based on Cypress chips to be OK, but apparently the first choice is an FTDI brand chip, and they have driver software for every operating system. I think StarTech brand adapters are still good, but Cables Unlimited was also selling FTDI adapters that worked well.

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On 9/20/2014 11:25 AM, Karl Townsend wrote:
My son has his old matsuura up and running. Its pre LAN connection,
needs the RS232 port to download CNC programs.

I did this ages ago, but have forgot how.

Question 1, how do I wire the cable?

Question 2, what program works with W7 to talk to the control?

Last time I did this it was DOS and Procomm.

Karl


You would have to try a straight thru cable or some need a null
modem.


The easy way to tell is to measure the voltages on pins 2 and 3, to
see which is an output.
-jsw

On 2014-09-20, Karl Townsend wrote:
My son has his old matsuura up and running. Its pre LAN connection,
needs the RS232 port to download CNC programs.

I did this ages ago, but have forgot how.

Question 1, how do I wire the cable?

Depends on whether it is doing handshaking.

The minimum is (for the DB-25 connectors)
If it is a DE-9 connector instead -- on many newer computers)
the pin numbers change, and I don't work with those much.

Data Ground from pin 7 to pin 7

Data leads: (assuming a crossover, with both ends the same time
of RS232

2 - 3
3 - 2

If there is more needed (handshaking) add:

5 - 6
6 - 5

and maybe tie pin 20 on each end to one of the two before.

And to be sure to deal with voltage differences between the two
chassis -- safety ground from pin 1 to pin 1.

Question 2, what program works with W7 to talk to the control?

No experience with Windows 7 -- sorry. (Nor with much of any
other Windows, for that matter.) Way back when, I liked kermit for the
transfers between unlike computers.

For unix machines, I would usually use tip or cu -- but those
are unlikely to be found on a Windows box.

Last time I did this it was DOS and Procomm.

O.K.

Good Luck,
DoN.

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Karl Townsend wrote:
My son has his old matsuura up and running. Its pre LAN connection,
needs the RS232 port to download CNC programs.

I did this ages ago, but have forgot how.

Question 1, how do I wire the cable?

Question 2, what program works with W7 to talk to the control?

Last time I did this it was DOS and Procomm.

Karl

you will need a null modem cable and a232port on a computer. there are
some usb to 232 adapters but not all will work properly because of
voltage differences. I have a box of new null modem cables 15 ft if you
need one. I ordered three cables and they sent me three bags of three.
You will also set your baud rates to match as well as the other
parameters, stop bits, data bits, parity and some other stuff so the two
units can communicate.

John

On 22 Sep 2014 02:48:18 GMT, "DoN. Nichols"
wrote:

On 2014-09-20, Karl Townsend wrote:
My son has his old matsuura up and running. Its pre LAN connection,
needs the RS232 port to download CNC programs.

I did this ages ago, but have forgot how.

Question 1, how do I wire the cable?

Depends on whether it is doing handshaking.

The minimum is (for the DB-25 connectors)
If it is a DE-9 connector instead -- on many newer computers)
the pin numbers change, and I don't work with those much.

Data Ground from pin 7 to pin 7

Data leads: (assuming a crossover, with both ends the same time
of RS232

2 - 3
3 - 2

If there is more needed (handshaking) add:

5 - 6
6 - 5

and maybe tie pin 20 on each end to one of the two before.

And to be sure to deal with voltage differences between the two
chassis -- safety ground from pin 1 to pin 1.

Question 2, what program works with W7 to talk to the control?

No experience with Windows 7 -- sorry. (Nor with much of any
other Windows, for that matter.) Way back when, I liked kermit for the
transfers between unlike computers.

For unix machines, I would usually use tip or cu -- but those
are unlikely to be found on a Windows box.

Last time I did this it was DOS and Procomm.

O.K.

Good Luck,
DoN.

If Karl can come up with an email addy that will accept some bigger
files..I think some are around 150 megs, though most are smaller..Ill
send him my library of CNC/DNC software and diagrams data etc etc.

Or burn em to a CD and mail it to him

Gunner, CNC tech


"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child,
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats."
PJ O'Rourke

On Sun, 21 Sep 2014 23:57:48 -0400, John
wrote:

Karl Townsend wrote:
My son has his old matsuura up and running. Its pre LAN connection,
needs the RS232 port to download CNC programs.

I did this ages ago, but have forgot how.

Question 1, how do I wire the cable?

Question 2, what program works with W7 to talk to the control?

Last time I did this it was DOS and Procomm.

Karl

you will need a null modem cable and a232port on a computer. there are
some usb to 232 adapters but not all will work properly because of
voltage differences. I have a box of new null modem cables 15 ft if you
need one. I ordered three cables and they sent me three bags of three.
You will also set your baud rates to match as well as the other
parameters, stop bits, data bits, parity and some other stuff so the two
units can communicate.

John


Not all..all interconnect cables will be "null" either. Some are
simple 3 wire, others need handshaking etc etc so he needs to know
exactly what his control requires

And he needs to know exactly what his control IS.
(probably Yaznac...maybe)..along with perameters of his RS-232
port..if thats what he has. Some were only..only compatable with punch
tape readers...tough matching some of those up....


Many are XYZ Manufacturing with Fanuc controls, or Heidehain or GE or
Yaznac or......

I was asked to fix a big! Hurco (24" swing) with a Fanuc 10T control
on it last Friday. I did some hunting and seeking..I think the
powersupply is gone on several voltages..but I didnt have any
documentation..shrug

Recommended 2 names and gave him the phone numbers..shrug again.

The machine was built in 1984....oil field shop....



http://www.machinetoolhelp.com/Appli...nications.html

http://www.cnczone.com/forums/machin...yasnac-mx.html

Gunner

"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child,
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats."
PJ O'Rourke

If Karl can come up with an email addy that will accept some bigger
files..I think some are around 150 megs, though most are smaller..Ill
send him my library of CNC/DNC software and diagrams data etc etc.

Or burn em to a CD and mail it to him

Gunner, CNC tech

Could I take you up on the low tech route?

I'll email my son's snail mail address

Karl

PS: Its a Yaznac I80 control built in 1990, The Matsuura machine is
running, its in GREAT condition.

On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 06:49:51 -0500, Karl Townsend
wrote:


If Karl can come up with an email addy that will accept some bigger
files..I think some are around 150 megs, though most are smaller..Ill
send him my library of CNC/DNC software and diagrams data etc etc.

Or burn em to a CD and mail it to him

Gunner, CNC tech

Could I take you up on the low tech route?

I'll email my son's snail mail address

Karl

PS: Its a Yaznac I80 control built in 1990, The Matsuura machine is
running, its in GREAT condition.

Please do! Ill burn them all to a CD and yall can have fun with it.,
(Grin)

I thought it would be a Yaznac.

Gunner

"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child,
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats."
PJ O'Rourke