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Zircs - My dumb question of the month coupon
I just bought an air grease gun. I am amazed at how many zircs there
are on a tractor, and how many needed juice. Some wouldn't take any grease. Do you just put a new one in, or is there a way to soak/clean these? I know they ain't expensive, I just need to take a couple off, and take them down to match up, and buy a couple dozen. Is it worth it messing with the old ones, and does it work, or are they trash once they are plugged? Those air guns are sweet, eh? Steve |
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I just bought an air grease gun. I am amazed at how many zircs there are on a tractor, and how many needed juice. Some wouldn't take any grease. Do you just put a new one in, or is there a way to soak/clean these? I know they ain't expensive, I just need to take a couple off, and take them down to match up, and buy a couple dozen. Is it worth it messing with the old ones, and does it work, or are they trash once they are plugged? Those air guns are sweet, eh? Steve It might not be the zerk , the area that needs grease or the passage leading to it may be clogged up with , well , crud . -- Snag |
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On Mon, 4 Aug 2014 23:40:54 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote: SteveB wrote: I just bought an air grease gun. I am amazed at how many zircs there are on a tractor, and how many needed juice. Some wouldn't take any grease. Do you just put a new one in, or is there a way to soak/clean these? I know they ain't expensive, I just need to take a couple off, and take them down to match up, and buy a couple dozen. Is it worth it messing with the old ones, and does it work, or are they trash once they are plugged? Those air guns are sweet, eh? Very! It might not be the zerk , the area that needs grease or the passage leading to it may be clogged up with , well , crud . There is an impact tool which cleans them, but it can also inject dirt, plus it's expensive. http://tinyurl.com/kwgkeqa 43 bucks? Fergitit. Replacement it always easier and cheaper in the long run. http://tinyurl.com/l4u7ege oodles of replacements for $12. or less at HFT, $5 for 32pc metric, $7.49 for 50pc SAE. http://tinyurl.com/pw47k8a and http://tinyurl.com/nk64a65 -- Aim for success, not perfection. Never give up your right to be wrong, because then you will lose the ability to learn new things and move forward with your life. -- Dr. David M. Burns |
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On 8/4/2014 9:40 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
SteveB wrote: I just bought an air grease gun. I am amazed at how many zircs there are on a tractor, and how many needed juice. Some wouldn't take any grease. Do you just put a new one in, or is there a way to soak/clean these? I know they ain't expensive, I just need to take a couple off, and take them down to match up, and buy a couple dozen. Is it worth it messing with the old ones, and does it work, or are they trash once they are plugged? Those air guns are sweet, eh? Steve It might not be the zerk , the area that needs grease or the passage leading to it may be clogged up with , well , crud . Yeah, there were only a couple, but I used an ice pick and thin bladed screwdriver to get the mud out of a couple to where the zirc was clear and accessible. Steve |
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[...] Yeah, there were only a couple, but I used an ice pick and thin bladed screwdriver to get the mud out of a couple to where the zirc was clear and accessible. Zerk, after its inventor Oscar Zerk. Not "zirc". |
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On Mon, 4 Aug 2014 23:40:54 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote: SteveB wrote: I just bought an air grease gun. I am amazed at how many zircs there are on a tractor, and how many needed juice. Some wouldn't take any grease. Do you just put a new one in, or is there a way to soak/clean these? I know they ain't expensive, I just need to take a couple off, and take them down to match up, and buy a couple dozen. Is it worth it messing with the old ones, and does it work, or are they trash once they are plugged? Those air guns are sweet, eh? Steve It might not be the zerk , the area that needs grease or the passage leading to it may be clogged up with , well , crud . Indeed. Some of those may best be shot with some kerosene in a grease gun..then re greased after the crud is dissolved out -- "Living in the United States now is like being a Tampon. We're in a great place, just at a bad time." |
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On Tue, 05 Aug 2014 14:44:41 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote: On Mon, 4 Aug 2014 23:40:54 -0500, "Terry Coombs" wrote: SteveB wrote: I just bought an air grease gun. I am amazed at how many zircs there are on a tractor, and how many needed juice. Some wouldn't take any grease. Do you just put a new one in, or is there a way to soak/clean these? I know they ain't expensive, I just need to take a couple off, and take them down to match up, and buy a couple dozen. Is it worth it messing with the old ones, and does it work, or are they trash once they are plugged? Those air guns are sweet, eh? Steve It might not be the zerk , the area that needs grease or the passage leading to it may be clogged up with , well , crud . Indeed. Some of those may best be shot with some kerosene in a grease gun..then re greased after the crud is dissolved out I'd call anyone doing that an idiot to their face, unless they removed it from the vehicle first. And if they're doing that, it's best to use a new one. -- Aim for success, not perfection. Never give up your right to be wrong, because then you will lose the ability to learn new things and move forward with your life. -- Dr. David M. Burns |
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On Tue, 05 Aug 2014 15:25:09 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote: On Tue, 05 Aug 2014 14:44:41 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 4 Aug 2014 23:40:54 -0500, "Terry Coombs" wrote: SteveB wrote: I just bought an air grease gun. I am amazed at how many zircs there are on a tractor, and how many needed juice. Some wouldn't take any grease. Do you just put a new one in, or is there a way to soak/clean these? I know they ain't expensive, I just need to take a couple off, and take them down to match up, and buy a couple dozen. Is it worth it messing with the old ones, and does it work, or are they trash once they are plugged? Those air guns are sweet, eh? Steve It might not be the zerk , the area that needs grease or the passage leading to it may be clogged up with , well , crud . Indeed. Some of those may best be shot with some kerosene in a grease gun..then re greased after the crud is dissolved out I'd call anyone doing that an idiot to their face, unless they removed it from the vehicle first. And if they're doing that, it's best to use a new one. On bushings and other gizmos? Really? Ill have to tell a ****load of heavy equipment and automotive mechanics that they are idiots Imagine that....hummmm Gunner -- "Living in the United States now is like being a Tampon. We're in a great place, just at a bad time." |
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On Tue, 05 Aug 2014 16:53:03 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote: On Tue, 05 Aug 2014 15:25:09 -0700, Larry Jaques wrote: On Tue, 05 Aug 2014 14:44:41 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 4 Aug 2014 23:40:54 -0500, "Terry Coombs" wrote: SteveB wrote: I just bought an air grease gun. I am amazed at how many zircs there are on a tractor, and how many needed juice. Some wouldn't take any grease. Do you just put a new one in, or is there a way to soak/clean these? I know they ain't expensive, I just need to take a couple off, and take them down to match up, and buy a couple dozen. Is it worth it messing with the old ones, and does it work, or are they trash once they are plugged? Those air guns are sweet, eh? Steve It might not be the zerk , the area that needs grease or the passage leading to it may be clogged up with , well , crud . Indeed. Some of those may best be shot with some kerosene in a grease gun..then re greased after the crud is dissolved out I'd call anyone doing that an idiot to their face, unless they removed it from the vehicle first. And if they're doing that, it's best to use a new one. On bushings and other gizmos? Really? Ill have to tell a ****load of heavy equipment and automotive mechanics that they are idiots Imagine that....hummmm Yeah. So how would you remove the kerosene from the joint? Why wouldn't the kerosene continue to break down any grease that came after it? I stand by my statement because that procedure would cause the joint to fail prematurely. _Worse_ than not lubing it. -- Aim for success, not perfection. Never give up your right to be wrong, because then you will lose the ability to learn new things and move forward with your life. -- Dr. David M. Burns |
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On Tue, 05 Aug 2014 15:25:09 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote: On Tue, 05 Aug 2014 14:44:41 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 4 Aug 2014 23:40:54 -0500, "Terry Coombs" wrote: SteveB wrote: I just bought an air grease gun. I am amazed at how many zircs there are on a tractor, and how many needed juice. Some wouldn't take any grease. Do you just put a new one in, or is there a way to soak/clean these? I know they ain't expensive, I just need to take a couple off, and take them down to match up, and buy a couple dozen. Is it worth it messing with the old ones, and does it work, or are they trash once they are plugged? Those air guns are sweet, eh? Steve It might not be the zerk , the area that needs grease or the passage leading to it may be clogged up with , well , crud . Indeed. Some of those may best be shot with some kerosene in a grease gun..then re greased after the crud is dissolved out I'd call anyone doing that an idiot to their face, unless they removed it from the vehicle first. And if they're doing that, it's best to use a new one. If he's talking a disc-harrow or similar piece of equipment the kerosene and regrease may be an acceptable solution. On a tractor, if it is a part that has no seals and the grease keeps the dirt out, it may also be an acceptable solution - but not on any part that is sealed , even if only with a rubber gaitor. If the idea is to get fresh grease in and through the joint to lubricate it, it is often successfull and beats tearing the assembly down to run a wire through the hole to knock the crud (dried grease and dirt) out. DO NOT do this on a high speed bearing. |
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On Mon, 04 Aug 2014 21:23:18 -0700, SteveB wrote:
I just bought an air grease gun. I am amazed at how many zircs there are on a tractor, and how many needed juice. Some wouldn't take any grease. Do you just put a new one in, or is there a way to soak/clean these? I know they ain't expensive, I just need to take a couple off, and take them down to match up, and buy a couple dozen. Is it worth it messing with the old ones, and does it work, or are they trash once they are plugged? Those air guns are sweet, eh? Steve I suggest hitting them with a torch, lightly, before doing anything. it will catch the grease inside on fire and blow the little check ball out, clears the obstruction that was likely just past the zerk. Plus, now the zerk is loose so it will screw right off. If you don't have a spare handy,just grease it this way. karl |
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I just bought an air grease gun. I am amazed at how many zircs there are on a tractor, and how many needed juice. Some wouldn't take any grease. Do you just put a new one in, or is there a way to soak/clean these? Remove the zerk, and use pliers to hold it into the business end of your grease gun. Cover it with a rag. One pull on the handle of the gun will blow everything out of the zerk. Of course that won't help if the obstruction isn't in the zerk itself. |
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SteveB wrote in news:lrpm7r$mfk$1
@speranza.aioe.org: I just bought an air grease gun. I am amazed at how many zircs there are on a tractor, and how many needed juice. Heh! Just wait 'til you find the other 23 of them you missed! G An old tractor parts guy I once knew said, "Nothing makes an old tractor run better than a paint job." I always thought he was just saying it made the owner FEEL better about the way it ran -- until I repainted an old 8N. If you choose to do a good paint job, you have to strip the beast down to its bones. When you do, you'll find 473 little things that need fixing. Like, who wants to leave old, cracked plug wires in a nice, newly-painted wire chase? Who wants a drippy water pump gland smutching up your new paint? Oil leaks? C'mon! It'll just take a minute.... G And when you fix them, the tractor actually WILL run better! A heck of a lot better. Lloyd |
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On Tue, 05 Aug 2014 06:21:34 -0500, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote: SteveB wrote in news:lrpm7r$mfk$1 : I just bought an air grease gun. I am amazed at how many zircs there are on a tractor, and how many needed juice. Heh! Just wait 'til you find the other 23 of them you missed! G An old tractor parts guy I once knew said, "Nothing makes an old tractor run better than a paint job." I always thought he was just saying it made the owner FEEL better about the way it ran -- until I repainted an old 8N. If you choose to do a good paint job, you have to strip the beast down to its bones. When you do, you'll find 473 little things that need fixing. Like, who wants to leave old, cracked plug wires in a nice, newly-painted wire chase? Who wants a drippy water pump gland smutching up your new paint? Oil leaks? C'mon! It'll just take a minute.... G And when you fix them, the tractor actually WILL run better! A heck of a lot better. Like potato chips, betcha can't fix just ONE! -- Aim for success, not perfection. Never give up your right to be wrong, because then you will lose the ability to learn new things and move forward with your life. -- Dr. David M. Burns |
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"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" wrote: SteveB wrote in news:lrpm7r$mfk$1 @speranza.aioe.org: I just bought an air grease gun. I am amazed at how many zircs there are on a tractor, and how many needed juice. Heh! Just wait 'til you find the other 23 of them you missed! G I believe some of the new tractors are coming with central lube systems. I think the same has been on some construction equipment for a while. Progress... |
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"Pete C." wrote in message . com... "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" wrote: SteveB wrote in news:lrpm7r$mfk$1 @speranza.aioe.org: I just bought an air grease gun. I am amazed at how many zircs there are on a tractor, and how many needed juice. Heh! Just wait 'til you find the other 23 of them you missed! G I believe some of the new tractors are coming with central lube systems. I think the same has been on some construction equipment for a while. Progress... ================================================== ======== [Ed] Hey, they're catching up to the 1932 Packard, which had Bijur central chassis lubrication. I think they'd had it for four or five years at that point in time. d8-) -- Ed Huntress |
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On Mon, 04 Aug 2014 21:23:18 -0700, SteveB wrote:
I just bought an air grease gun. I am amazed at how many zircs there are on a tractor, and how many needed juice. Some wouldn't take any grease. Do you just put a new one in, or is there a way to soak/clean these? I know they ain't expensive, I just need to take a couple off, and take them down to match up, and buy a couple dozen. Is it worth it messing with the old ones, and does it work, or are they trash once they are plugged? Those air guns are sweet, eh? Steve They come in standard sizes and threads. Usually a hand full of various sizes and angles will do you for a while. If you want to clean them you can take them out, stick them in the grease gun and pull the trigger. If they don't squirt throw them away. (if they do squirt you've probably used more grease then a new fitting would cost :-) -- Cheers, John B. |
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On 8/4/2014 11:23 PM, SteveB wrote:
I just bought an air grease gun. I am amazed at how many zircs there are on a tractor, and how many needed juice. Some wouldn't take any grease. Do you just put a new one in, or is there a way to soak/clean these? I know they ain't expensive, I just need to take a couple off, and take them down to match up, and buy a couple dozen. Is it worth it messing with the old ones, and does it work, or are they trash once they are plugged? Those air guns are sweet, eh? Steve Be extra careful. They might be under a high pressure and a small leak when you unlock it might burn through a hand or finger. Air would be nice. I have to think of it on my John Deer. Martin |
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