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stryped[_3_] April 9th 14 01:41 PM

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I have a Jennings forked ligtening. The string came off s cable attached to one of the cams. My wife took it to a local archery place. They said they could not fix it because it was so old that parts are not available. (It was bought new in the mid 80's).

I was just wanting to fix it to target shoot with my son. Is this thing only good now for the trash? Can it not be fixed?

Lloyd E. Sponenburgh[_3_] April 9th 14 02:59 PM

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stryped fired this volley in
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They said they could not fix it because it was so old that parts are
not available


This is probably wasted bandwidth, but if a part could be made once, it can
be re-made. It all depends upon how much you want to make it.
Lloyd

[email protected] April 9th 14 04:56 PM

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On Wed, 9 Apr 2014 05:41:00 -0700 (PDT), stryped
wrote:

I have a Jennings forked ligtening. The string came off s cable attached to one of the cams. My wife took it to a local archery place. They said they could not fix it because it was so old that parts are not available. (It was bought new in the mid 80's).

I was just wanting to fix it to target shoot with my son. Is this thing only good now for the trash? Can it not be fixed?

Why don't you post a link to some pictures and then maybe someone can
tell you. But I think that since someone made the parts in the first
place then someone else could do so again.
ERS

Bob La Londe[_7_] April 9th 14 05:48 PM

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"stryped" wrote in message
...
I have a Jennings forked ligtening. The string came off s cable attached
to one of the cams. My wife took it to a local archery place. They said
they could not fix it because it was so old that parts are not available.
(It was bought new in the mid 80's).

I was just wanting to fix it to target shoot with my son. Is this thing
only good now for the trash? Can it not be fixed?


In theory maybe.... However there has been so much advancement and
improvement in bow technology in the last couple decades that the part is
probably not made any longer. You could probably have one custom made, but
the cost (unless you somehow browbeat somebody into working for a fraction
of what they are worth) would be just as much as finding another newer used
bow. I recently acquired a 60-70 pound adjustable compound with about 70%
let off for a trade worth a lot less than I would charge to custom make a
new CAM for a bow.




Lloyd E. Sponenburgh[_3_] April 9th 14 07:39 PM

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lot less than I would charge to custom make a
new CAM for a bow.


A little double-entendre' there, Bob?
G
Lloyd

Bob La Londe[_7_] April 9th 14 07:46 PM

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"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote in message
. 3.70...
"Bob La Londe" fired this volley in news:li3tm3$hgl$1
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lot less than I would charge to custom make a
new CAM for a bow.


A little double-entendre' there, Bob?
G
Lloyd



G




Lloyd E. Sponenburgh[_3_] April 9th 14 07:49 PM

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"Bob La Londe" fired this volley in news:li44ip$827$1


G

Hey... you never did comment on what you thought of the new 'toy' I bought
yesterday for my control!

I figured, if anyone would, you'd have seen the need for it.

Lloyd


Bob La Londe[_7_] April 9th 14 07:51 PM

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"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote in message
. 3.70...
"Bob La Londe" fired this volley in news:li44ip$827$1


G

Hey... you never did comment on what you thought of the new 'toy' I bought
yesterday for my control!

I figured, if anyone would, you'd have seen the need for it.

Lloyd


I must have missed that. On the CB forum?


Lloyd E. Sponenburgh[_3_] April 9th 14 08:01 PM

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I must have missed that. On the CB forum?



Yep.
L

RogerN April 9th 14 11:15 PM

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"stryped" wrote in message
...

I have a Jennings forked ligtening. The string came off s cable attached to
one of the cams. My wife took it to a local archery place. They said they
could not fix it because it was so old that parts are not available. (It
was bought new in the mid 80's).

I was just wanting to fix it to target shoot with my son. Is this thing
only good now for the trash? Can it not be fixed?


What part do they need?

I had an old bow re-cabled for $35, maybe the shop is just incompetent?
Maybe they'd just prefer to sell you a new bow?

RogerN



stryped[_3_] April 9th 14 11:21 PM

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On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 5:15:50 PM UTC-5, RogerN wrote:
"stryped" wrote in message


...




I have a Jennings forked ligtening. The string came off s cable attached to


one of the cams. My wife took it to a local archery place. They said they


could not fix it because it was so old that parts are not available. (It


was bought new in the mid 80's).




I was just wanting to fix it to target shoot with my son. Is this thing


only good now for the trash? Can it not be fixed?




What part do they need?



I had an old bow re-cabled for $35, maybe the shop is just incompetent?

Maybe they'd just prefer to sell you a new bow?



RogerN


The cam (I think that is the round black plastic on each end of the bow) has a black cable stretched around it. At the end of this cable molded into the cable is a piece of metal that looks like a "T". On one of these cables the T had broke. This t is what each end of the shooting string connected to.

I have a picture, but do not have acess to a picture hosting site currently..

stryped[_3_] April 9th 14 11:33 PM

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On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 5:21:28 PM UTC-5, stryped wrote:
On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 5:15:50 PM UTC-5, RogerN wrote:

"stryped" wrote in message




...








I have a Jennings forked ligtening. The string came off s cable attached to




one of the cams. My wife took it to a local archery place. They said they




could not fix it because it was so old that parts are not available. (It




was bought new in the mid 80's).








I was just wanting to fix it to target shoot with my son. Is this thing




only good now for the trash? Can it not be fixed?








What part do they need?








I had an old bow re-cabled for $35, maybe the shop is just incompetent?




Maybe they'd just prefer to sell you a new bow?








RogerN




The cam (I think that is the round black plastic on each end of the bow) has a black cable stretched around it. At the end of this cable molded into the cable is a piece of metal that looks like a "T". On one of these cables the T had broke. This t is what each end of the shooting string connected to.



I have a picture, but do not have acess to a picture hosting site currently.


I found a site. Here are some pictures: a href="http://tinypic.com?ref=16id5oo" target="_blank"img src="http://i57.tinypic.com/16id5oo.jpg" border="0" alt="Image and video hosting by TinyPic"/a

a href="http://tinypic.com?ref=drf3x0" target="_blank"img src="http://i58.tinypic.com/drf3x0.jpg" border="0" alt="Image and video hosting by TinyPic"/a

a href="http://tinypic.com?ref=1zyv4lk" target="_blank"img src="http://i57.tinypic.com/1zyv4lk.jpg" border="0" alt="Image and video hosting by TinyPic"/a

F. George McDuffee April 10th 14 12:19 AM

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On Wed, 9 Apr 2014 15:21:28 -0700 (PDT), stryped
wrote:

On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 5:15:50 PM UTC-5, RogerN wrote:
"stryped" wrote in message


...




I have a Jennings forked ligtening. The string came off s cable attached to


one of the cams. My wife took it to a local archery place. They said they


could not fix it because it was so old that parts are not available. (It


was bought new in the mid 80's).




I was just wanting to fix it to target shoot with my son. Is this thing


only good now for the trash? Can it not be fixed?




What part do they need?



I had an old bow re-cabled for $35, maybe the shop is just incompetent?

Maybe they'd just prefer to sell you a new bow?



RogerN


The cam (I think that is the round black plastic on each end of the bow) has a black cable stretched around it. At the end of this cable molded into the cable is a piece of metal that looks like a "T". On one of these cables the T had broke. This t is what each end of the shooting string connected to.

I have a picture, but do not have acess to a picture hosting site currently.

=================
Sounds like a standard part.
Use the dropbox
http://www.mwdropbox.com/
or send me a copy and I will post on my website


--
Unka' George

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silver is the money of gentlemen,
barter is the money of peasants,
but debt is the money of slaves"

-Norm Franz, "Money and Wealth in the New Millenium"

stryped[_3_] April 10th 14 01:06 PM

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On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 7:41:00 AM UTC-5, stryped wrote:
I have a Jennings forked ligtening. The string came off s cable attached to one of the cams. My wife took it to a local archery place. They said they could not fix it because it was so old that parts are not available. (It was bought new in the mid 80's).



I was just wanting to fix it to target shoot with my son. Is this thing only good now for the trash? Can it not be fixed?


Did the above picture attachment I posted not work?

Leon Fisk April 10th 14 08:31 PM

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On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 05:06:52 -0700 (PDT)
stryped wrote:

On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 7:41:00 AM UTC-5, stryped wrote:
I have a Jennings forked ligtening. The string came off s cable attached to one of the cams. My wife took it to a local archery place. They said they could not fix it because it was so old that parts are not available. (It was bought new in the mid 80's).



I was just wanting to fix it to target shoot with my son. Is this thing only good now for the trash? Can it not be fixed?


Did the above picture attachment I posted not work?


They work okay.

We (or at least me) would need a better look at the good "T" part...

I would try repairing the old broken "T". Maybe drill a small hole
through it and then insert a roll pin, solid pin or something similar
creating a "T" again. Guessing here because I haven't seen what the good
"T" looks like...

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Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b
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RogerN April 10th 14 09:04 PM

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"stryped" wrote in message
...

On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 5:15:50 PM UTC-5, RogerN wrote:

What part do they need?

I had an old bow re-cabled for $35, maybe the shop is just incompetent?
Maybe they'd just prefer to sell you a new bow?


RogerN


The cam (I think that is the round black plastic on each end of the bow)
has a black cable stretched around it. At the end of this cable molded into
the cable is a piece of metal that looks like a "T". On one of these cables
the T had broke. This t is what each end of the shooting string connected
to.

I have a picture, but do not have acess to a picture hosting site
currently.


If I understand correctly from the pictures, the part that's broken is where
the string attaches to the cable?

Here's some links that will hopefully get you in the right direction.

http://www.ammoland.com/2012/05/comp...#axzz2yVvWLPUU
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Bea...-/121314723238
http://www.ebay.com/itm/COMPLETE-BOW...-/321064249683
http://naspschools.org/instructors/a...1373536424.pdf

RogerN





stryped[_3_] April 10th 14 09:08 PM

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On Thursday, April 10, 2014 3:04:43 PM UTC-5, RogerN wrote:
"stryped" wrote in message

...



On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 5:15:50 PM UTC-5, RogerN wrote:




What part do they need?




I had an old bow re-cabled for $35, maybe the shop is just incompetent?


Maybe they'd just prefer to sell you a new bow?






RogerN




The cam (I think that is the round black plastic on each end of the bow)


has a black cable stretched around it. At the end of this cable molded into


the cable is a piece of metal that looks like a "T". On one of these cables


the T had broke. This t is what each end of the shooting string connected


to.




I have a picture, but do not have acess to a picture hosting site


currently.




If I understand correctly from the pictures, the part that's broken is where

the string attaches to the cable?



Here's some links that will hopefully get you in the right direction.



http://www.ammoland.com/2012/05/comp...#axzz2yVvWLPUU

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Bea...-/121314723238

http://www.ebay.com/itm/COMPLETE-BOW...-/321064249683

http://naspschools.org/instructors/a...1373536424.pdf



RogerN


Yes, the metal T is basically an "I" . It is what holds one end of the bow string. The bow string has a look on the end and the loop goes around the T

John B.[_3_] April 11th 14 02:27 AM

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On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 15:31:07 -0400, Leon Fisk
wrote:

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 05:06:52 -0700 (PDT)
stryped wrote:

On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 7:41:00 AM UTC-5, stryped wrote:
I have a Jennings forked ligtening. The string came off s cable attached to one of the cams. My wife took it to a local archery place. They said they could not fix it because it was so old that parts are not available. (It was bought new in the mid 80's).



I was just wanting to fix it to target shoot with my son. Is this thing only good now for the trash? Can it not be fixed?


Did the above picture attachment I posted not work?


They work okay.

We (or at least me) would need a better look at the good "T" part...

I would try repairing the old broken "T". Maybe drill a small hole
through it and then insert a roll pin, solid pin or something similar
creating a "T" again. Guessing here because I haven't seen what the good
"T" looks like...


Your photos weren't very explicit but the broken part appeared to be a
"tee" which was used to anchor the string to something. The cam
perhaps. Cannot you simply splice a longer string around a short piece
of some material to make a new "tee"?
--
Cheers,

John B.

stryped[_3_] April 11th 14 11:36 AM

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Do you mean use a crimp ferule to add a lenth of wire with a new t on it? I thought about that but not sure when pulling the bow string back if thewire gets pulled around the cam or not. I would guess the ferule would not go around the cam if that was the case....

Lloyd E. Sponenburgh[_3_] April 11th 14 11:42 AM

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I thought about that


I doubt it.

Stryped, you'd make whittling a toothpick into a project as big as the
Eiffel Tower.

If the old one 'just broke' while 'just sitting around', don't you have
any idea that the other end might 'just break' while your kid is pulling
on it?

Just frigging replace the wire with a a new one, and with any sort of
thimble crimped on the ends that will fit the application.

Lloyd

John B.[_3_] April 11th 14 12:11 PM

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On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 03:36:34 -0700 (PDT), stryped
wrote:

Do you mean use a crimp ferule to add a lenth of wire with a new t on it? I thought about that but not sure when pulling the bow string back if thewire gets pulled around the cam or not. I would guess the ferule would not go around the cam if that was the case....


If you were replying to me.... Not necessarily a crimped terminal. It
depends on what the "string" is made of. If steel wire of some sort
then perhaps a spliced eye with a pin through it. If the string is
some sort of plastic - nylon etc. then perhaps a tied or glued splice
with some wrapping of the same material. A cord simply made into an
eye and wrapped tightly with thread, string, etc. is surprisingly
strong.
--
Cheers,

John B.

stryped[_3_] April 11th 14 01:16 PM

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On Friday, April 11, 2014 6:11:20 AM UTC-5, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 03:36:34 -0700 (PDT), stryped

wrote:



Do you mean use a crimp ferule to add a lenth of wire with a new t on it? I thought about that but not sure when pulling the bow string back if thewire gets pulled around the cam or not. I would guess the ferule would not go around the cam if that was the case....




If you were replying to me.... Not necessarily a crimped terminal. It

depends on what the "string" is made of. If steel wire of some sort

then perhaps a spliced eye with a pin through it. If the string is

some sort of plastic - nylon etc. then perhaps a tied or glued splice

with some wrapping of the same material. A cord simply made into an

eye and wrapped tightly with thread, string, etc. is surprisingly

strong.

--

Cheers,



John B.


Is is steel covered with some sort of plastic coating. I am sorry not sure what you mean by "sliced eye"?

I wonder if cutting a few inches off and crimping on a few inches of wire with some sort of fitting would work?

I am kind of new to the bow construction thing. Can I do all this and put a new string on it without special bow tools? I know they sell "bow presses" but I am not sure if they are necessary or what they are used for.

RogerN April 11th 14 01:46 PM

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"stryped" wrote in message
...

My bow cables were replaced by:

Mikes Archery Shop
203 E Croan, Irvington, IL 62848 map
(618) 249-6641

The cost was $35, that was over 20 years ago. I would call them, if they
are still in business, and ask if they can do it and get a price. Maybe
they'd sell you the cables to do it yourself though it may require special
crimping tools, such as aircraft cable crimpers. If nothing else, perhaps
you could get the parts so another archery shop in your area can replace the
cables.

A bow press compresses the bow limbs so you can get slack in the cables&
string for replacing the string and/or cables. The simplest I have seen
just use a cable (or string?) between the limbs and something like a
turnbuckle to pull the limbs together. The fancy ones use a couple of
wheels with adjustable spacing and perhaps a boat winch to pull the bow down
between the wheels, compressing the limbs.

Search for instructions or look at the links I pasted previously, there are
videos with cable replacement instructions, see if it's something you want
to tackle.

RogerN



Larry Jaques[_4_] April 11th 14 02:05 PM

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On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 05:42:44 -0500, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:

stryped fired this volley in news:e88c82bb-3255-
:

I thought about that


I doubt it.

Stryped, you'd make whittling a toothpick into a project as big as the
Eiffel Tower.


The trouble with arguing with trolls and fools (or both, in his case)
is that people watching can't tell which is which. If we all just
ignore him, maybe he'll go away.

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of a bad, while telling him not to defend himself or his fellows;
in no way can the success of evil be made quicker or surer.
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Leon Fisk April 11th 14 08:10 PM

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On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 05:16:25 -0700 (PDT)
stryped wrote:

snip
I wonder if cutting a few inches off and crimping on a few inches of wire with some sort of fitting would work?


Give us a picture (or two) of the good "T" first if you can't figure
out my instructions. I sure wouldn't cut off the broken end if it was
me...

As I said earlier, drill a hole sideways through the broken "T".
Guessing but maybe 1/8 or 3/16 inch diameter. Force a short pin through
the hole so a stub sticks out both sides far enough to hook your draw
string over.

--
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Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b
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stryped[_3_] April 11th 14 11:56 PM

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On Friday, April 11, 2014 2:10:08 PM UTC-5, Leon Fisk wrote:
On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 05:16:25 -0700 (PDT)

stryped wrote:



snip

I wonder if cutting a few inches off and crimping on a few inches of wire with some sort of fitting would work?




Give us a picture (or two) of the good "T" first if you can't figure

out my instructions. I sure wouldn't cut off the broken end if it was

me...



As I said earlier, drill a hole sideways through the broken "T".

Guessing but maybe 1/8 or 3/16 inch diameter. Force a short pin through

the hole so a stub sticks out both sides far enough to hook your draw

string over.



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Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b

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The problem is, that piece is so small there is no way I can see of drilling a 3/16 diameter hole through it...

Lloyd E. Sponenburgh[_3_] April 12th 14 01:15 AM

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stryped fired this volley in
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The problem is, that piece is so small there is no way I can see of
drilling a 3/16 diameter hole through it...


Oh! Well, then, instead of your figuring out what sized hole you can
drill, we'll solve the problem for you without seeing it or knowing the
size.

I keep optimistic about hoping it will change; but Stryped, you just
don't WANT to be helped. You'd rather lead us and yourself into stupid
blind alleys without any kind of self-motivation.

Figure it out. Done. This whole thread was a waste of bandwidth.

Lloyd

Terry Coombs[_2_] April 12th 14 02:41 AM

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Lloyd E. Sponenburgh wrote:
stryped fired this volley in
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The problem is, that piece is so small there is no way I can see of
drilling a 3/16 diameter hole through it...


Oh! Well, then, instead of your figuring out what sized hole you can
drill, we'll solve the problem for you without seeing it or knowing
the size.

I keep optimistic about hoping it will change; but Stryped, you just
don't WANT to be helped. You'd rather lead us and yourself into
stupid blind alleys without any kind of self-motivation.

Figure it out. Done. This whole thread was a waste of bandwidth.

Lloyd



I'm surprised it took you this long Lloyd . After the first 3 or 4 stupid
posts he made I figured that responding to him was a waste of my time and
Kw/hrs .
--
Snag



John B.[_3_] April 12th 14 05:57 AM

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On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 05:16:25 -0700 (PDT), stryped
wrote:

On Friday, April 11, 2014 6:11:20 AM UTC-5, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 03:36:34 -0700 (PDT), stryped

wrote:



Do you mean use a crimp ferule to add a lenth of wire with a new t on it? I thought about that but not sure when pulling the bow string back if thewire gets pulled around the cam or not. I would guess the ferule would not go around the cam if that was the case....




If you were replying to me.... Not necessarily a crimped terminal. It

depends on what the "string" is made of. If steel wire of some sort

then perhaps a spliced eye with a pin through it. If the string is

some sort of plastic - nylon etc. then perhaps a tied or glued splice

with some wrapping of the same material. A cord simply made into an

eye and wrapped tightly with thread, string, etc. is surprisingly

strong.

--

Cheers,



John B.


Is is steel covered with some sort of plastic coating. I am sorry not sure what you mean by "sliced eye"?


I meant a splice that is made by separating the strands of a cable and
weaving them into the cable, or another cable, to join them.
See for an example, although likely a larger cable than you have :-)
http://thevintageaviator.co.nz/reference/cable-splicing

I wonder if cutting a few inches off and crimping on a few inches of wire with some sort of fitting would work?

Possibly. what do you have to lose?
See:
http://aeml.tech.purdue.edu/airframe...alapsplice.jpg

I am kind of new to the bow construction thing. Can I do all this and put a new string on it without special bow tools? I know they sell "bow presses" but I am not sure if they are necessary or what they are used for.


I've never been around a modern bow but my father used to make long
bows and even as a kid I could string a pretty heavy bow so it is
likely that you can do the job. My guess is the "bow vise" just makes
it easier if you are doing it all day.

You might look at
https://www.extremebowstrings.com/
as they seem to have a lot of strings.
--
Cheers,

John B.

Leon Fisk April 12th 14 08:47 PM

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On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 15:56:05 -0700 (PDT)
stryped wrote:

snip
The problem is, that piece is so small there is no way I can see of drilling a 3/16 diameter hole through it...


I bet that piece is at least 1/4 in diameter, maybe more. Plenty enough
for an 1/8 hole...

The cheap and dirty way is to just put a "cow hitch" on the end of your
string, slip it past the broken "T" and cinch it down on the coated
cable. You might want to sand any sharp burrs off the broken "T" first.

Then tightly tape over the knot, cable and "T".

Cow Hitch: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cow_hitch

Crummy image of what to do: http://i62.tinypic.com/2vuj9qt.png

--
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Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b
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Gunner Asch[_6_] April 13th 14 03:33 AM

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On Wed, 9 Apr 2014 05:41:00 -0700 (PDT), stryped
wrote:

I have a Jennings forked ligtening. The string came off s cable attached to one of the cams. My wife took it to a local archery place. They said they could not fix it because it was so old that parts are not available. (It was bought new in the mid 80's).

I was just wanting to fix it to target shoot with my son. Is this thing only good now for the trash? Can it not be fixed?


They may may not be able to "fix" it..but they should be able to set
it up using new parts.

Also contact Jennings
Also check Ebay. 30 yr old compounds are dirt cheap and you may find a
matching bow

Gunner, Archer

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that he favored total civilian firearms confiscation.
Only the military and police should have weapons he averred and what did I think about that?

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I thought for a moment and said, “If you try to take our firearms we will kill you.”"

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Gunner Asch[_6_] April 13th 14 03:38 AM

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On Wed, 9 Apr 2014 15:21:28 -0700 (PDT), stryped
wrote:

On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 5:15:50 PM UTC-5, RogerN wrote:
"stryped" wrote in message


...




I have a Jennings forked ligtening. The string came off s cable attached to


one of the cams. My wife took it to a local archery place. They said they


could not fix it because it was so old that parts are not available. (It


was bought new in the mid 80's).




I was just wanting to fix it to target shoot with my son. Is this thing


only good now for the trash? Can it not be fixed?




What part do they need?



I had an old bow re-cabled for $35, maybe the shop is just incompetent?

Maybe they'd just prefer to sell you a new bow?



RogerN


The cam (I think that is the round black plastic on each end of the bow) has a black cable stretched around it. At the end of this cable molded into the cable is a piece of metal that looks like a "T". On one of these cables the T had broke. This t is what each end of the shooting string connected to.

I have a picture, but do not have acess to a picture hosting site currently.


Standard "2 string" cable attachment. They need to be swaged on..but
they are readily available in good archery shops. Evidently yours
doesnt own a swaging tool

The reason btw..its called a "2 string" is its used to replace the
string. Pull the old string and draw. Now your helper can stick on a
new string on the other side of the T..relax the bow, pull the new
string, draw a bit, and your helper pops off the old string.

This also works VERY nicely if you are going on a hunt and you want to
keep a spare string on hand that is already stretched and ready to
use. Put on your second string, shoot it a few hundred arrows after
setting up your knocking point etc etc, then remove and keep it in
your bow case.

Gunner


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Gunner Asch[_6_] April 13th 14 03:45 AM

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On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 05:16:25 -0700 (PDT), stryped
wrote:

On Friday, April 11, 2014 6:11:20 AM UTC-5, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 03:36:34 -0700 (PDT), stryped

wrote:



Do you mean use a crimp ferule to add a lenth of wire with a new t on it? I thought about that but not sure when pulling the bow string back if thewire gets pulled around the cam or not. I would guess the ferule would not go around the cam if that was the case....




If you were replying to me.... Not necessarily a crimped terminal. It

depends on what the "string" is made of. If steel wire of some sort

then perhaps a spliced eye with a pin through it. If the string is

some sort of plastic - nylon etc. then perhaps a tied or glued splice

with some wrapping of the same material. A cord simply made into an

eye and wrapped tightly with thread, string, etc. is surprisingly

strong.

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Is is steel covered with some sort of plastic coating. I am sorry not sure what you mean by "sliced eye"?

I wonder if cutting a few inches off and crimping on a few inches of wire with some sort of fitting would work?

I am kind of new to the bow construction thing. Can I do all this and put a new string on it without special bow tools? I know they sell "bow presses" but I am not sure if they are necessary or what they are used for.


No! When you crimp on a new "T"..the bow will be a tad different in
draw. Remove the cable, measure it from end to end and call Jennings,
and tell them what you need. If you can find someone to crimp on a
new T...the bow will be a tiny bit out of tune..but it shouldnt be an
issue for the kid.

Its hardly rocket science.

Lots of shops will make you up a new set of cables (a pair) for $25.
Replace the cable on BOTH ends of the bow.

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Gunner Asch[_6_] April 13th 14 03:45 AM

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On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 15:10:08 -0400, Leon Fisk
wrote:

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 05:16:25 -0700 (PDT)
stryped wrote:

snip
I wonder if cutting a few inches off and crimping on a few inches of wire with some sort of fitting would work?


Give us a picture (or two) of the good "T" first if you can't figure
out my instructions. I sure wouldn't cut off the broken end if it was
me...

As I said earlier, drill a hole sideways through the broken "T".
Guessing but maybe 1/8 or 3/16 inch diameter. Force a short pin through
the hole so a stub sticks out both sides far enough to hook your draw
string over.


That will work. Gonna need to be a hardened dowel pin though.

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Larry Jaques[_4_] April 13th 14 04:36 AM

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On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 19:15:18 -0500, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:

stryped fired this volley in
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The problem is, that piece is so small there is no way I can see of
drilling a 3/16 diameter hole through it...


Oh! Well, then, instead of your figuring out what sized hole you can
drill, we'll solve the problem for you without seeing it or knowing the
size.

I keep optimistic about hoping it will change; but Stryped, you just
don't WANT to be helped. You'd rather lead us and yourself into stupid
blind alleys without any kind of self-motivation.

Figure it out. Done. This whole thread was a waste of bandwidth.


You're just -now- figuring that out, Lloyd? sigh

Plonk the troll, whydoncha?

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Lloyd E. Sponenburgh[_3_] April 13th 14 12:40 PM

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Larry Jaques fired this volley in
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You're just -now- figuring that out, Lloyd? sigh


Larry, you apparently didn't read what I wrote.

I wrote, "I keep optimistic about hoping it will change.."

How, exactly, is it wrong to keep hope alive?

I will continue to remain optimistic about nearly every aspect of life.

When I see a beggar with a sign, "Will work for food", if I have any
work, I offer them work. If they refuse, then I "know", and almost all
of them do refuse. That doesn't stop me from making the offers.

LLoyd

stryped[_3_] April 13th 14 01:33 PM

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http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2s0l...ic=1z6wnli&s=8

Here are some pictures. I have been so busy it was hard to find some free time. Do you also notice the ball in the cam holding the string in and how small and broken up the t is? Any suggestions?

Larry Jaques[_4_] April 13th 14 02:54 PM

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On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 06:40:08 -0500, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:

Larry Jaques fired this volley in
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You're just -now- figuring that out, Lloyd? sigh


Larry, you apparently didn't read what I wrote.


That question referred to your final realization of the nature of the
stryped beast. Y'know, that super-special moment you finally had when
you gleaned "Oh, gee, he must be a stryped assed ape troll!"


I wrote, "I keep optimistic about hoping it will change.."

How, exactly, is it wrong to keep hope alive?


g


I will continue to remain optimistic about nearly every aspect of life.


This is good. I just wish the "nearly" didn't apply to known trolls.


When I see a beggar with a sign, "Will work for food", if I have any
work, I offer them work. If they refuse, then I "know", and almost all
of them do refuse. That doesn't stop me from making the offers.


Talking to stryped is like offering work to that same refuser day
after day. You know precisely what it will get you. Neevermind.

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RogerN April 13th 14 03:56 PM

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"stryped" wrote in message
...

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2s0l75e&s=8http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2gxfaeq&s=8http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=versdz&s=8http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=35d9veq&s=8http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=152kmwy&s=8http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=1z6wnli&s=8http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=1z6wnli&s=8

Here are some pictures. I have been so busy it was hard to find some free
time. Do you also notice the ball in the cam holding the string in and how
small and broken up the t is? Any suggestions?


I like the idea Gunner has about getting the end replaced by someone that
has the proper swaging tool. Check with other archery shops, they may be
able to do it "no problem". Another alternative would be to get a new cable
set made. You could do it yourself but likely the price of the proper tools
would exceed the cost of a replacement used bow.

I don't like the idea of putting a pin through the old part. Not that it's
a bad idea but since the original broke, I would be afraid to trust it after
drilling a hole in it, the next break could be where it's attached to the
cable. If I were to go with putting a pin it in, I would want to test it by
putting a load on it probably 5 times what it will have on the bow. It just
seems dangerous if something let go while you're shooting it.

RogerN



Doug Miller[_4_] April 13th 14 04:35 PM

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stryped wrote in news:735ea738-ec7f-4533-a352-e081b4450f22
@googlegroups.com:

I have a Jennings forked ligtening. The string came off s cable attached to
one of the cams. My wife took it to a local archery place. They said they
could not fix it because it was so old that parts are not available. (

[...]
http://i58.tinypic.com/drf3x0.jpg


Take it to another shop. This one's incompetent.

You may discover, however, that it's cheaper to buy a replacement bow than to get this one
repaired.


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