On Mon, 24 Mar 2014 23:32:41 -0500, Richard
wrote:

Dunning and Kruger proposed that, for a given skill, incompetent people
will:

1. tend to overestimate their own level of skill;
2. fail to recognize genuine skill in others;
3. fail to recognize the extremity of their inadequacy;
4. recognize and acknowledge their own previous lack of skill, /if/
they are exposed to training for that skill.

^5 Richard. Well stated!

Introspection is a marvelous thing. Im forced to do it regularly and I
think it makes me a better person for it. Though it is a bitter taste.


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I was once told by a “gun safety” advocate back in the Nineties
that he favored total civilian firearms confiscation.
Only the military and police should have weapons he averred and what did I think about that?

I began to give him a reasoned answer and he
cut me off with an abrupt, “Give me the short answer.”

I thought for a moment and said, “If you try to take our firearms we will kill you.”"

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Gunner Asch on Tue, 25 Mar 2014 08:56:36 -0700
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
On Mon, 24 Mar 2014 23:32:41 -0500, Richard
wrote:

Dunning and Kruger proposed that, for a given skill, incompetent people
will:

1. tend to overestimate their own level of skill;
2. fail to recognize genuine skill in others;
3. fail to recognize the extremity of their inadequacy;
4. recognize and acknowledge their own previous lack of skill, /if/
they are exposed to training for that skill.

^5 Richard. Well stated!

Introspection is a marvelous thing. Im forced to do it regularly and I
think it makes me a better person for it. Though it is a bitter taste.

There is a statement by Aristotle that the happiness is not
"pleasure" but comes from knowing that one is living a "good life"
I.e., a life of excellence. Which does require that one regularly ask
of oneself "Am I doing the best which I am capable of doing?"
To paraphrase Socrates: The unexamined life may not be worth
living, but you do have a lot more free time.


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pyotr filipivich
"With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone."

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Gunner Asch on Tue, 25 Mar 2014
08:56:36 -0700
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
On Mon, 24 Mar 2014 23:32:41 -0500, Richard
wrote:

Dunning and Kruger proposed that, for a given skill, incompetent
people
will:

1. tend to overestimate their own level of skill;
2. fail to recognize genuine skill in others;
3. fail to recognize the extremity of their inadequacy;
4. recognize and acknowledge their own previous lack of skill,
/if/
they are exposed to training for that skill.

^5 Richard. Well stated!

Introspection is a marvelous thing. Im forced to do it regularly and
I
think it makes me a better person for it. Though it is a bitter
taste.

There is a statement by Aristotle that the happiness is not
"pleasure" but comes from knowing that one is living a "good life"
I.e., a life of excellence. Which does require that one regularly
ask
of oneself "Am I doing the best which I am capable of doing?"
To paraphrase Socrates: The unexamined life may not be worth
living, but you do have a lot more free time.
pyotr filipivich

In this group plenty of others will be happy to share their opinion of
how you are doing.
jsw

"Jim Wilkins" on Tue, 25 Mar 2014 13:02:09
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Gunner Asch on Tue, 25 Mar 2014
08:56:36 -0700
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
On Mon, 24 Mar 2014 23:32:41 -0500, Richard
wrote:

Dunning and Kruger proposed that, for a given skill, incompetent
people
will:

1. tend to overestimate their own level of skill;
2. fail to recognize genuine skill in others;
3. fail to recognize the extremity of their inadequacy;
4. recognize and acknowledge their own previous lack of skill,
/if/
they are exposed to training for that skill.

^5 Richard. Well stated!

Introspection is a marvelous thing. Im forced to do it regularly and
I think it makes me a better person for it. Though it is a bitter
taste.

There is a statement by Aristotle that the happiness is not
"pleasure" but comes from knowing that one is living a "good life"
I.e., a life of excellence. Which does require that one regularly ask
of oneself "Am I doing the best which I am capable of doing?"
To paraphrase Socrates: The unexamined life may not be worth
living, but you do have a lot more free time.
pyotr filipivich

In this group plenty of others will be happy to share their opinion of
how you are doing.

True enough, but the operative phrase is "Their Opinion". I'm of
the understanding that I can be sure of, at most, only one individual,
and that is myself. In this universe of one - I am the chief amongst
sinners. How others are doing, I can't really say, for I cannot be
certain of what battles they may face that I cannot know. That what I
consider important, they might not (and vice versa). There is a
saying of the desert fathers, that if you are noticing the weeds in
your brother's garden, you are obviously not paying attention to your
own.
So, ... I don't have as much free time as I might otherwise. My
problem, and not theirs.

--
pyotr filipivich
"With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone."