We are visiting my brother and wife in Dillsburg, PA. Today we visited
and toured the Cornwall iron mine and furnace. They produced cast iron
for 236 years. Started in 1737.

Great tour given by a native of the town.

Paul

On 10/24/2013 2:49 PM, Paul Drahn wrote:
We are visiting my brother and wife in Dillsburg, PA. Today we visited
and toured the Cornwall iron mine and furnace. They produced cast iron
for 236 years. Started in 1737.

Great tour given by a native of the town.

Paul


Did you get to meet Charlie Voglesong?

On 10/24/2013 5:22 PM, Richard wrote:
On 10/24/2013 2:49 PM, Paul Drahn wrote:
We are visiting my brother and wife in Dillsburg, PA. Today we visited
and toured the Cornwall iron mine and furnace. They produced cast iron
for 236 years. Started in 1737.

Great tour given by a native of the town.

Paul


Did you get to meet Charlie Voglesong?




The guy giving the tour was named Patrick. The only other guy was
running the whole operation, tours, volunteers, and gift shop/museum. I
never did see or hear his name.

Paul

On 10/25/2013 6:31 AM, Paul Drahn wrote:
On 10/24/2013 5:22 PM, Richard wrote:
On 10/24/2013 2:49 PM, Paul Drahn wrote:
We are visiting my brother and wife in Dillsburg, PA. Today we visited
and toured the Cornwall iron mine and furnace. They produced cast iron
for 236 years. Started in 1737.

Great tour given by a native of the town.

Paul


Did you get to meet Charlie Voglesong?




The guy giving the tour was named Patrick. The only other guy was
running the whole operation, tours, volunteers, and gift shop/museum. I
never did see or hear his name.

Paul


That's too bad.
But not unexpected, I guess, as they cosed down about 2 years ago.

But for 65 years, Charlie was the leading source for 4130, aluminum and
AN hardware - probably in the world.



http://www.airbum.com/articles/Artic...sburgAero.html

"We pride ourselves on keeping the customer happy, that way they keep
coming back. Our advertising budget is exactly $15 a month for a
listing in the classifieds of Sport Aviation, but, right now, we have
10,000 active accounts we are serving listed in the computer. They are
all over the world and all came in via word of mouth." Charlie speaks
in a quiet, quick tone that picks up speed as his enthusiasm catches up
with him. And no where is he more enthusiastic than when explaining
Dillsburg's business.


http://www.eaa.org/news/2011/2011-06-16_dillsburg.asp

June 9, 2011 —Charlie Vogelsong is getting out of the aircraft tubing
business, but it won’t be easy. The World War II B-17 pilot started
selling aircraft bolts, hardware, and eventually 4130 steel tubing after
the war to support his fellow pilots who still wanted to fly for fun.
Some 65 years later Vogelsong has built Dillsburg Aeroplane Works near
Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, into a multi-million-dollar business that is
the leading supplier of certified aircraft grade tubing, as well as a
leading worldwide supplier of metal materials to Indy Car and NASCAR.

In addition to providing aircraft grade tubing, Dillsburg supplies all
of Indy Car and NASCAR worldwide.

On Thursday, October 24, 2013 3:49:45 PM UTC-4, Paul Drahn wrote:
We are visiting my brother and wife in Dillsburg, PA. Today we visited

and toured the Cornwall iron mine and furnace. They produced cast iron

for 236 years. Started in 1737.



Great tour given by a native of the town.



Paul

Hi Paul,

So you would recommend a visit to this site?
I'd be driving from NY for a day trip.

What types of furnaces/process did they use there?
Charcoal or Coke?

Did they puddle the pig iron as well as bloom it there?

Did they have forges for producing wrought iron also?

I've been looking for more information on mid-19 century wrought iron nails.

I found a few large wrought iron nails/spikes along side the Delaware, after a flood receded, just downriver of Roebling's iron-wire suspension canal aqueduct.

I'd love to know more about their origin/manufacture. Might even have come from the Cornwall iron works I suppose.

Thanks,

--
PaulS

On 10/25/2013 4:45 AM, PCS wrote:
On Thursday, October 24, 2013 3:49:45 PM UTC-4, Paul Drahn wrote:
We are visiting my brother and wife in Dillsburg, PA. Today we visited

and toured the Cornwall iron mine and furnace. They produced cast iron

for 236 years. Started in 1737.



Great tour given by a native of the town.



Paul

Hi Paul,

So you would recommend a visit to this site?
I'd be driving from NY for a day trip.

What types of furnaces/process did they use there?
Charcoal or Coke?

Did they puddle the pig iron as well as bloom it there?

Did they have forges for producing wrought iron also?

I've been looking for more information on mid-19 century wrought iron nails.

I found a few large wrought iron nails/spikes along side the Delaware, after a flood receded, just downriver of Roebling's iron-wire suspension canal aqueduct.

I'd love to know more about their origin/manufacture. Might even have come from the Cornwall iron works I suppose.

Thanks,

--
PaulS

They always used charcoal for fuel. Claim it took an acre of woodland
per day. The museum is located in the charcoal storage building.

The furnace produced pig iron that was shipped to other parts of the
East. Later they sand cast iron sheet for cast iron stoves. During the
Revolutionary war and Civil war, they produced iron canons.

They did wrought iron on promise for their tooling and repair. They had
many wooden carts to haul material and all had iron tires.

They were as self sufficient as possible, so probably made nails.

I lay awake last night trying to understand how it all worked and the
errors made in the tour guide talks. One big question is what they used
to bind the sand and clay to make molds. Could they have used lard oil,
or other animal products?

Paul

On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 16:56:40 -0700, Paul Drahn

wrote:
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One big question is what they used
to bind the sand and clay to make molds. Could they have used lard oil,
or other animal products?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sand_casting
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Sand casting is relatively cheap and sufficiently refractory
even for steel foundry use. In addition to the sand, a
suitable bonding agent (usually clay) is mixed or occurs
with the sand. The mixture is moistened, typically with
water, but sometimes with other substances, to develop
strength and plasticity of the clay and to make the
aggregate suitable for molding.
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see section on green sand

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molding_sand

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7ut_2nqiGk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHk-zvJ_jr4

"Paul Drahn" wrote in message
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I lay awake last night trying to understand how it all worked and
the errors made in the tour guide talks. One big question is what
they used to bind the sand and clay to make molds. Could they have
used lard oil, or other animal products?

Paul

Normally the clay is enough. For fragile internal cores molasses,
flour, linseed oil can be added, and baked to harden it.
http://www.imarketingcenter.com/coresand.html

jsw

On 10/26/2013 5:46 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
"Paul wrote in message
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I lay awake last night trying to understand how it all worked and
the errors made in the tour guide talks. One big question is what
they used to bind the sand and clay to make molds. Could they have
used lard oil, or other animal products?

Paul

Normally the clay is enough. For fragile internal cores molasses,
flour, linseed oil can be added, and baked to harden it.
http://www.imarketingcenter.com/coresand.html

jsw


Ok, sounds like that would all have been available in 1776.

They cast lots of cannon. Assume the buried the mold in the sand so the
molten iron could flow into the end of the mold. What did they use to
form the bore of the cannon? Did they mold a ceramic ( tiles stacked up)
or some other material?

Paul

"Paul Drahn" wrote in message
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On 10/26/2013 5:46 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
"Paul wrote in message
...

I lay awake last night trying to understand how it all worked and
the errors made in the tour guide talks. One big question is what
they used to bind the sand and clay to make molds. Could they have
used lard oil, or other animal products?

Paul

Normally the clay is enough. For fragile internal cores molasses,
flour, linseed oil can be added, and baked to harden it.
http://www.imarketingcenter.com/coresand.html

jsw


Ok, sounds like that would all have been available in 1776.

They cast lots of cannon. Assume the buried the mold in the sand so
the molten iron could flow into the end of the mold. What did they
use to form the bore of the cannon? Did they mold a ceramic ( tiles
stacked up) or some other material?

Paul

According to master caster Vannoccio Biringuccio the bore core is an
iron rod coated with first rope, which burns out and permits removal,
then clay mixed with "a small amount of cloth clippings and much
sifted horse dung and some washed and clean wash ashes". The rod is
suspended from end pivots as a simple lathe, with a board set parallel
to define (scrape off) the diameter as it's rotated and packed with
clay. Within the mold metal spiders that become part of the cannon
center the core.

Become a Renaissance Man yourself:
http://www.tms.org/pubs/books/pdfs/0.../09-1002-0.pdf

John Wilkinson invented efficient methods to bore cannon and steam
engine cylinders accurately.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wi...(industrialist)

jsw

On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 12:49:45 -0700, Paul Drahn wrote:

We are visiting my brother and wife in Dillsburg, PA. Today we visited
and toured the Cornwall iron mine and furnace. They produced cast iron
for 236 years. Started in 1737.

Great tour given by a native of the town.

Paul

If you ever get to the Boston area, the Saugus Iron Works is also
impressive. I never knew about "bog iron" before my visit there.

The original model for colonization of North America was that the
colonists would send raw materials to Britain and get manufactured stuff
back -- things like iron works were going against that model and were, I
think, made illegal by the Brits at some point (I can't remember exactly,
though).

--
Tim Wescott
Control system and signal processing consulting
www.wescottdesign.com