http://www.youtube.com/embed/iKlt6rNciTo?rel=0


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On Thu, 06 Jun 2013 23:30:51 -0700, Gunner Asch
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http://www.youtube.com/embed/iKlt6rNciTo?rel=0

Fun Ford Fillums!

My dad flew a Mitchell B-25 in WWII. After a few other missions, he
was shot down over France and taken to a German POW camp. The French
thought he was a German spy and sapped him savagely twice, but no neck
or brain damage resulted. His liberators were the Russians in T-34
tanks. He lost over 70 pounds in those ten months of captivity, but
regained it and lived to the ripe old age of 86.

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Gunner Asch wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/embed/iKlt6rNciTo?rel=0

20 years ago a former mechanic posted (on the BBS network) that, of the B-17
and B-24, one was all electric and one was all hydraulic. Apparently the 17
was the electric one, but did that extend to the control surfaces I wonder?


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"Tom Del Rosso" wrote in message
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Gunner Asch wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/embed/iKlt6rNciTo?rel=0

20 years ago a former mechanic posted (on the BBS network) that, of
the B-17 and B-24, one was all electric and one was all hydraulic.
Apparently the 17 was the electric one, but did that extend to the
control surfaces I wonder?

This says no.
http://www.generalaviationnews.com/2...-people-thing/

I've poked around that aircraft as far as they let me, and seen the
inside of an engine but not the wing. In the preflight checklist
training film (just watched it again) the control check precedes
engine start. They move the controls to the limit and look out the
cockpit window to confirm the ailerons, elevators and rudder moved in
the proper direction, without first flipping any switches.
jsw

"Jim Wilkins" wrote in message
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"Tom Del Rosso" wrote in message
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I've poked around that aircraft as far as they let me, and seen the
inside of an engine but not the wing. In the preflight checklist
training film (just watched it again) the control check precedes
engine start. They move the controls to the limit and look out the
cockpit window to confirm the ailerons, elevators and rudder moved
in the proper direction, without first flipping any switches.
jsw

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Jim Wilkins wrote:
"Tom Del Rosso" wrote in message
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Gunner Asch wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/embed/iKlt6rNciTo?rel=0

20 years ago a former mechanic posted (on the BBS network) that, of
the B-17 and B-24, one was all electric and one was all hydraulic.
Apparently the 17 was the electric one, but did that extend to the
control surfaces I wonder?

This says no.
http://www.generalaviationnews.com/2...-people-thing/

I've poked around that aircraft as far as they let me, and seen the
inside of an engine but not the wing. In the preflight checklist
training film (just watched it again) the control check precedes
engine start. They move the controls to the limit and look out the
cockpit window to confirm the ailerons, elevators and rudder moved in
the proper direction, without first flipping any switches.
jsw

Then I assume the B-24 had hydraulics for control surfaces, or at least
ailerons. The video says the bomb bay doors were hydraulic, so the B-17 had
electric doors (I'm sure that mechanic said they differed on the doors).


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On Sat, 8 Jun 2013 13:17:54 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"
wrote:


Gunner Asch wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/embed/iKlt6rNciTo?rel=0

20 years ago a former mechanic posted (on the BBS network) that, of the B-17
and B-24, one was all electric and one was all hydraulic. Apparently the 17
was the electric one, but did that extend to the control surfaces I wonder?

I believe that the Boeing B-50 was the first bomber that had any power
assisted control surfaces (excepting flaps) and that was a power
assist on the rudder only.

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"Tom Del Rosso" wrote in message
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Then I assume the B-24 had hydraulics for control surfaces, or at
least ailerons. The video says the bomb bay doors were hydraulic,
so the B-17 had electric doors (I'm sure that mechanic said they
differed on the doors).

My B-17 & B-24 photo collection doesn't show the bomb bay door
actuators for either, just some linkage. A B-17's simple doors swing
down, a B-24's complex doors slide up the outside.
jsw