All:

Thought I'd mention these for those automotive techies that may not have heard of them.

Adios pushrods, camshafts, valve springs, rocker arms, poppet valves, etc. etc. Run more compression for more efficiency, higher RPM, cooler running engine, less maintenance. Too good to be true you say?? Check this vid out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDsRa4eT7co

http://www.coatesengine.com/csrv-advantages.html

http://www.coatesengine.com/csrv-system.html

Ed's going to miss hot lashing the valves on a Saturday afternoon. JK LOL

--
BottleBob
http://home.earthlink.net/~bottlbob

On Apr 15, 5:36*pm, BottleBob wrote:
All:

* * * * Thought I'd mention these for those automotive techies that may not have heard of them.

* * * * Adios pushrods, camshafts, valve springs, rocker arms, poppet valves, etc. etc. *Run more compression for more efficiency, higher RPM, cooler running engine, less maintenance. * Too good to be true you say?? *Check this vid out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDsRa4eT7co

http://www.coatesengine.com/csrv-advantages.html

http://www.coatesengine.com/csrv-system.html

* * * * Ed's going to miss hot lashing the valves on a Saturday afternoon. * JK *LOL

--
BottleBobhttp://home.earthlink.net/~bottlbob


Coats wants to relocate and get out of New Jersey:

http://www.coatesengine.com/press-releases.html

"Management has decided to pursue setting up manufacturing and
production operations in another state that is more business-oriented
and willing to provide better opportunities for the Coates planned
production of its CSRV products. Management is working on securing a
package of business and tax incentives with another state that could
be finalized by the end of August 2012. However there can be no
assurance that the Company will be successful in this endeavor."

On Mon, 15 Apr 2013 17:36:34 -0700 (PDT), BottleBob
wrote:


All:

Thought I'd mention these for those automotive techies that may not have heard of them.

Adios pushrods, camshafts, valve springs, rocker arms, poppet valves, etc. etc. Run more compression for more efficiency, higher RPM, cooler running engine, less maintenance. Too good to be true you say?? Check this vid out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDsRa4eT7co

http://www.coatesengine.com/csrv-advantages.html

http://www.coatesengine.com/csrv-system.html

Ed's going to miss hot lashing the valves on a Saturday afternoon. JK LOL

Very nice! Axial-shaft rotary valves. They've been around for at least
60 or 70 years. g I think they were tried in aircraft engines even
earlier than that.

They always fail, mostly due to sealing problems. When I have more
time I'll see what I can find on the old attempts.

New materials may make them practical, but I wouldn't put my money on
it. If Mazda couldn't make their rotary-valve, pre-Wankel Cosmo last
in service, back in the '60s, I'm skeptical about this one.

But there's always hope....

--
Ed Huntress

On Monday, April 15, 2013 5:44:45 PM UTC-7, jon_banquer wrote:

Coats wants to relocate and get out of New Jersey:

http://www.coatesengine.com/press-releases.html



"Management has decided to pursue setting up manufacturing and

production operations in another state that is more business-oriented

and willing to provide better opportunities for the Coates planned

production of its CSRV products. Management is working on securing a

package of business and tax incentives with another state that could

be finalized by the end of August 2012. However there can be no

assurance that the Company will be successful in this endeavor."



Jon:

Maybe they'll move a little further than just out of state.

================================================== =======
Announcements
Tuesday, January 8, 2013 2:18 PM EDT

Coates International, Ltd. (the "Company") has been notified by Mr. James Pang today that the Chinese delegation of business executives from a large engine and generator manufacturer are scheduling their flights to visit the Coates International, Ltd. headquarters in New Jersey. Mr. James Pang, our exclusive liaison agent to China, will be accompanying them on their visit.. The Chinese company's headquarters is located in Hong Kong which has important business advantages.

Coates management is currently contemplating three options. The first option is to sell the Chinese a license to make, use and sell the CSRV engine technology design, the second option is to do a joint venture and the third option is to merge Coates International with the Chinese Company. Management believes that the third option is the way to go. The objective would be to manufacture the CSRV products in large quantities for distribution throughout the Eastern Hemisphere.


However, there can be no assurance that we will be successful in concluding any deals at this meeting.
================================================== =======

--
BottleBob
http://home.earthlink.net/~bottlbob

On 4/15/2013 20:36, BottleBob wrote:

All:

Thought I'd mention these for those automotive techies that may not have heard of them.

Adios pushrods, camshafts, valve springs, rocker arms, poppet valves, etc. etc. Run more compression for more efficiency, higher RPM, cooler running engine, less maintenance. Too good to be true you say?? Check this vid out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDsRa4eT7co

http://www.coatesengine.com/csrv-advantages.html

http://www.coatesengine.com/csrv-system.html

Ed's going to miss hot lashing the valves on a Saturday afternoon. JK LOL



????

480 HP@5500 rpm, naturally aspirated, 5.0 liter, that's gotta be a long
stroke engine. I would like to see it spin t0 14,450 rpm.

--
Steve Walker
(remove brain when replying)

On 16/04/13 01:58, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Mon, 15 Apr 2013 17:36:34 -0700 (PDT), BottleBob
wrote:

All:

Thought I'd mention these for those automotive techies that may not have heard of them.

Adios pushrods, camshafts, valve springs, rocker arms, poppet valves, etc. etc. Run more compression for more efficiency, higher RPM, cooler running engine, less maintenance. Too good to be true you say?? Check this vid out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDsRa4eT7co

http://www.coatesengine.com/csrv-advantages.html

http://www.coatesengine.com/csrv-system.html

Ed's going to miss hot lashing the valves on a Saturday afternoon. JK LOL
Very nice! Axial-shaft rotary valves. They've been around for at least
60 or 70 years. g I think they were tried in aircraft engines even
earlier than that.

They always fail, mostly due to sealing problems. When I have more
time I'll see what I can find on the old attempts.

New materials may make them practical, but I wouldn't put my money on
it. If Mazda couldn't make their rotary-valve, pre-Wankel Cosmo last
in service, back in the '60s, I'm skeptical about this one.

But there's always hope....

Some rotary valve engines are over 100 years old now see
http://www.douglas-self.com/MUSEUM/P...aryValveIC.htm
..

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 15 Apr 2013 17:36:34 -0700 (PDT), BottleBob
wrote:

Very nice! Axial-shaft rotary valves. They've been around for at
least
60 or 70 years. g I think they were tried in aircraft engines even
earlier than that.

Since 1849.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corliss_steam_engine

On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 07:36:03 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 15 Apr 2013 17:36:34 -0700 (PDT), BottleBob
wrote:

Very nice! Axial-shaft rotary valves. They've been around for at
least
60 or 70 years. g I think they were tried in aircraft engines even
earlier than that.

Since 1849.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corliss_steam_engine

You had to bring in steam. g

Yes, the rotary and spool-valve designs for IC engines actually were
adaptations of steam-engine valve works.

In IC engines, they tend to run great -- for a little while. They've
had some successes in racing, where you can tear an engine down after
500 or 1,000 miles and think nothing of it. But they never seem to be
duplicated by anyone else.

Every ten or twenty years, it seems, someone tries it again, often
with lots of fanfare. I'm skeptical, but that's not to say that
someone didn't get it right this time. We'll have to see.

The company that Bottle linked to is only about 20 or 25 miles from my
house. I'm tempted to go down and see what there is to see. It's right
near a good fishing spot, too. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress

On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 12:28:39 +0100, David Billington
wrote:

On 16/04/13 01:58, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Mon, 15 Apr 2013 17:36:34 -0700 (PDT), BottleBob
wrote:

All:

Thought I'd mention these for those automotive techies that may not have heard of them.

Adios pushrods, camshafts, valve springs, rocker arms, poppet valves, etc. etc. Run more compression for more efficiency, higher RPM, cooler running engine, less maintenance. Too good to be true you say?? Check this vid out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDsRa4eT7co

http://www.coatesengine.com/csrv-advantages.html

http://www.coatesengine.com/csrv-system.html

Ed's going to miss hot lashing the valves on a Saturday afternoon. JK LOL
Very nice! Axial-shaft rotary valves. They've been around for at least
60 or 70 years. g I think they were tried in aircraft engines even
earlier than that.

They always fail, mostly due to sealing problems. When I have more
time I'll see what I can find on the old attempts.

New materials may make them practical, but I wouldn't put my money on
it. If Mazda couldn't make their rotary-valve, pre-Wankel Cosmo last
in service, back in the '60s, I'm skeptical about this one.

But there's always hope....

Some rotary valve engines are over 100 years old now see
http://www.douglas-self.com/MUSEUM/P...aryValveIC.htm

Oh, that's interesting. That looks like the complete history of the
type.

It's funny that I haven't seen a reference to the Mazda engine for
over 40 years. It was a disk-type -- actually, the valves were
hemispheric -- and the valves were made of ceramic. It was quite
advanced, I thought, but it must have died without leaving any
progeny.

--
Ed Huntress

On Apr 16, 7:15*am, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 12:28:39 +0100, David Billington





wrote:
On 16/04/13 01:58, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Mon, 15 Apr 2013 17:36:34 -0700 (PDT), BottleBob
wrote:

All:

* * * * Thought I'd mention these for those automotive techies that may not have heard of them.

* *Adios pushrods, camshafts, valve springs, rocker arms, poppet valves, etc. etc. *Run more compression for more efficiency, higher RPM, cooler running engine, less maintenance. * Too good to be true you say?? *Check this vid out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDsRa4eT7co

http://www.coatesengine.com/csrv-advantages.html

http://www.coatesengine.com/csrv-system.html

* *Ed's going to miss hot lashing the valves on a Saturday afternoon. * JK *LOL
Very nice! Axial-shaft rotary valves. They've been around for at least
60 or 70 years. g I think they were tried in aircraft engines even
earlier than that.

They always fail, mostly due to sealing problems. When I have more
time I'll see what I can find on the old attempts.

New materials may make them practical, but I wouldn't put my money on
it. If Mazda couldn't make their rotary-valve, pre-Wankel Cosmo last
in service, back in the '60s, I'm skeptical about this one.

But there's always hope....

Some rotary valve engines are over 100 years old now see
http://www.douglas-self.com/MUSEUM/P...otaryValveIC/R...

Oh, that's interesting. That looks like the complete history of the
type.

It's funny that I haven't seen a reference to the Mazda engine for
over 40 years. It was a disk-type -- actually, the valves were
hemispheric -- and the valves were made of ceramic. It was quite
advanced, I thought, but it must have died without leaving any
progeny.

--
Ed Huntress- Hide quoted text -

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The school library had a book on I.C. engines with unusual valve gear,
covered all sorts of rotary and sleeve valves. Some made it into
production like the Crossley gas engines and Knight sleeve-valve
engines, others were a bust. Most had lubrication problems, either
they sucked oil like demons or bound up due to problems with
distributing same. Sleeve valves hung in there the longest, Brits
used them in a whole series of aircraft engines, I have no idea of
MTBO on them, though. The attraction there was that designers weren't
stuck with a round hole for entrance and exit and valve timing could
be changed with the shape of the holes in sleeve and cylinder. No
obstruction for gas passage from a poppet valve head, either. But
they also had lube problems along with heat flow problems when they
started superchargning them. Lube problems persist with any rotary
valve engines I've seen in the last 40 years. Big announcement
followed by a quiet liquidation of the development company a little
later. Good for prying Ferrari funds out of a V.C. outfit, though.

Stan

On 4/16/2013 8:40 AM, Ed Huntress wrote:

The company that Bottle linked to is only about 20 or 25 miles from my
house. I'm tempted to go down and see what there is to see. It's right
near a good fishing spot, too. d8-)


I have occasion to pass by the place once in a while. I haven't seen any
activity there for some time.

On the bright side, I am told flounder are still in.

Kevin Gallimore

On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 18:45:27 -0400, axolotl
wrote:

On 4/16/2013 8:40 AM, Ed Huntress wrote:

The company that Bottle linked to is only about 20 or 25 miles from my
house. I'm tempted to go down and see what there is to see. It's right
near a good fishing spot, too. d8-)


I have occasion to pass by the place once in a while. I haven't seen any
activity there for some time.

On the bright side, I am told flounder are still in.

Well, that's good. I called the bait shops two days after the winter
flounder season opened, but it was too early to tell. They've had a
couple of weeks now so it's worth another call.

--
Ed Huntress



Kevin Gallimore