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Ignoramus19809 February 9th 13 08:22 PM

COst of steel at metal suppliers
 
If I was to buy steel at a metal supplier, in the quantity of a ton or
so, how much would it cost per lb? I mean metal such as hot rolled
rounds 1-3 inches thick, 4140, rectangular solid stock etc.

I want to price my 15 tons of steel below market, and I want to know
what "market" really is.

thanks

azotic[_4_] February 9th 13 09:08 PM

COst of steel at metal suppliers
 
"Ignoramus19809" wrote in message
...
If I was to buy steel at a metal supplier, in the quantity of a ton or
so, how much would it cost per lb? I mean metal such as hot rolled
rounds 1-3 inches thick, 4140, rectangular solid stock etc.

I want to price my 15 tons of steel below market, and I want to know
what "market" really is.

thanks


New steel averages $1.10 per pound hear in las vegas. No discount for
how many tons you buy. My supplier has a scrap bin you pick that they
sell for .50 per pound. They will deliver for free if your order is over
$300, they also offer one free cut if your buying full length mill stock
typicaly 20-24Ft per piece.

Your gonna have to buy at scrap yard or below prices to make a
profit.

Best Regards
Tom.
--
http://fija.org/


Gunner[_7_] February 9th 13 09:10 PM

COst of steel at metal suppliers
 
On Sat, 09 Feb 2013 14:22:44 -0600, Ignoramus19809
wrote:

If I was to buy steel at a metal supplier, in the quantity of a ton or
so, how much would it cost per lb? I mean metal such as hot rolled
rounds 1-3 inches thick, 4140, rectangular solid stock etc.

I want to price my 15 tons of steel below market, and I want to know
what "market" really is.

thanks



Call your local suppliers with a list of your materials and ask them
what they charge for each type.

Its hardly rocket science.

Gunner

The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie

axolotl[_2_] February 9th 13 09:41 PM

COst of steel at metal suppliers
 
On 2/9/2013 3:22 PM, Ignoramus19809 wrote:
If I was to buy steel at a metal supplier, in the quantity of a ton or
so, how much would it cost per lb? I mean metal such as hot rolled
rounds 1-3 inches thick, 4140, rectangular solid stock etc.

I want to price my 15 tons of steel below market, and I want to know
what "market" really is.

thanks


Yarde Metals also sells drops and surplus material. They offer certs and
if the order is large enough, delivery. They have prices on line.

http://www.yarde.com/index.html

Kevin Gallimore


Steve B[_13_] February 9th 13 09:47 PM

COst of steel at metal suppliers
 

"Ignoramus19809" wrote in message
...
If I was to buy steel at a metal supplier, in the quantity of a ton or
so, how much would it cost per lb? I mean metal such as hot rolled
rounds 1-3 inches thick, 4140, rectangular solid stock etc.

I want to price my 15 tons of steel below market, and I want to know
what "market" really is.

thanks


e mail me



Ignoramus19809 February 9th 13 09:51 PM

COst of steel at metal suppliers
 
On 2013-02-09, azotic wrote:
"Ignoramus19809" wrote in message
...
If I was to buy steel at a metal supplier, in the quantity of a ton or
so, how much would it cost per lb? I mean metal such as hot rolled
rounds 1-3 inches thick, 4140, rectangular solid stock etc.

I want to price my 15 tons of steel below market, and I want to know
what "market" really is.

thanks


New steel averages $1.10 per pound hear in las vegas. No discount for
how many tons you buy. My supplier has a scrap bin you pick that they
sell for .50 per pound. They will deliver for free if your order is over
$300, they also offer one free cut if your buying full length mill stock
typicaly 20-24Ft per piece.

Your gonna have to buy at scrap yard or below prices to make a
profit.


IU bought it for3 cents per lb

azotic[_4_] February 9th 13 09:59 PM

COst of steel at metal suppliers
 
"Ignoramus19809" wrote in message
...
On 2013-02-09, azotic wrote:
"Ignoramus19809" wrote in message
...
If I was to buy steel at a metal supplier, in the quantity of a ton or
so, how much would it cost per lb? I mean metal such as hot rolled
rounds 1-3 inches thick, 4140, rectangular solid stock etc.

I want to price my 15 tons of steel below market, and I want to know
what "market" really is.

thanks


New steel averages $1.10 per pound hear in las vegas. No discount for
how many tons you buy. My supplier has a scrap bin you pick that they
sell for .50 per pound. They will deliver for free if your order is over
$300, they also offer one free cut if your buying full length mill stock
typicaly 20-24Ft per piece.

Your gonna have to buy at scrap yard or below prices to make a
profit.


IU bought it for3 cents per lb


At that price you should be able to make some money.

Got any heavy duty swivel casters?

Best Regards
Tom.
--
http://fija.org/


Karl Townsend February 9th 13 10:00 PM

COst of steel at metal suppliers
 
Iggy, scrap steel purchase is about the only thing you haven't beat me
at for scrounge deals. If you rmeber i bought the whole room of steel
at an auction for $100 then immediately sold the rack for $150. It was
over twenty tons.

It was 90 degrees and 80% RH that week and i hauled five days
straight, about died.

Anyway, I've been selling off that pile at 50 cents per lb. and guess
the weight (low if you load yourself and get a lot. Full weight if you
are a PITA)

Karl


Ignoramus19809 February 10th 13 02:26 AM

COst of steel at metal suppliers
 
On 2013-02-09, Karl Townsend wrote:
Iggy, scrap steel purchase is about the only thing you haven't beat me
at for scrounge deals. If you rmeber i bought the whole room of steel
at an auction for $100 then immediately sold the rack for $150. It was
over twenty tons.

It was 90 degrees and 80% RH that week and i hauled five days
straight, about died.

Anyway, I've been selling off that pile at 50 cents per lb. and guess
the weight (low if you load yourself and get a lot. Full weight if you
are a PITA)


Yes, that was a great deal and definitely better than mine. My best
deal to date is the "forklift manual deal". But this one is great
also. It took us 2 days to remove that metal (5 man-days) and we did
use a forklift. Most of it is still on my 48ft flatbed semi trailer,
we need to build the cantilever rack that we brought along. I am glad
that it was relatively cold and not hot like for you.

i

Ignoramus19809 February 10th 13 02:33 AM

COst of steel at metal suppliers
 
On 2013-02-09, azotic wrote:
"Ignoramus19809" wrote in message
...
On 2013-02-09, azotic wrote:
"Ignoramus19809" wrote in message
...
If I was to buy steel at a metal supplier, in the quantity of a ton or
so, how much would it cost per lb? I mean metal such as hot rolled
rounds 1-3 inches thick, 4140, rectangular solid stock etc.

I want to price my 15 tons of steel below market, and I want to know
what "market" really is.

thanks

New steel averages $1.10 per pound hear in las vegas. No discount for
how many tons you buy. My supplier has a scrap bin you pick that they
sell for .50 per pound. They will deliver for free if your order is over
$300, they also offer one free cut if your buying full length mill stock
typicaly 20-24Ft per piece.

Your gonna have to buy at scrap yard or below prices to make a
profit.


IU bought it for3 cents per lb


At that price you should be able to make some money.

Got any heavy duty swivel casters?


I have some carts on heavy duty casters. About five of them.

i

Howard Beal February 10th 13 02:47 AM

COst of steel at metal suppliers
 

"Ignoramus19809" wrote in message
...
On 2013-02-09, azotic wrote:
"Ignoramus19809" wrote in message
...
On 2013-02-09, azotic wrote:
"Ignoramus19809" wrote in message
...
If I was to buy steel at a metal supplier, in the quantity of a ton or
so, how much would it cost per lb? I mean metal such as hot rolled
rounds 1-3 inches thick, 4140, rectangular solid stock etc.

I want to price my 15 tons of steel below market, and I want to know
what "market" really is.

thanks

New steel averages $1.10 per pound hear in las vegas. No discount for
how many tons you buy. My supplier has a scrap bin you pick that they
sell for .50 per pound. They will deliver for free if your order is
over
$300, they also offer one free cut if your buying full length mill
stock
typicaly 20-24Ft per piece.

Your gonna have to buy at scrap yard or below prices to make a
profit.

IU bought it for3 cents per lb


At that price you should be able to make some money.

Got any heavy duty swivel casters?


I have some carts on heavy duty casters. About five of them.

i


Just need casters for a project.

Best Regards
Tom.




Ignoramus19809 February 10th 13 03:35 AM

COst of steel at metal suppliers
 
On 2013-02-09, axolotl wrote:
On 2/9/2013 3:22 PM, Ignoramus19809 wrote:
If I was to buy steel at a metal supplier, in the quantity of a ton or
so, how much would it cost per lb? I mean metal such as hot rolled
rounds 1-3 inches thick, 4140, rectangular solid stock etc.

I want to price my 15 tons of steel below market, and I want to know
what "market" really is.

thanks


Yarde Metals also sells drops and surplus material. They offer certs and
if the order is large enough, delivery. They have prices on line.

http://www.yarde.com/index.html

Kevin Gallimore


Looks like they want almost 2 dollArs per lb

Ignoramus19809 February 10th 13 04:06 AM

COst of steel at metal suppliers
 
emailed

On 2013-02-09, Steve B wrote:

"Ignoramus19809" wrote in message
...
If I was to buy steel at a metal supplier, in the quantity of a ton or
so, how much would it cost per lb? I mean metal such as hot rolled
rounds 1-3 inches thick, 4140, rectangular solid stock etc.

I want to price my 15 tons of steel below market, and I want to know
what "market" really is.

thanks


e mail me



Tom Gardner[_6_] February 10th 13 04:08 AM

COst of steel at metal suppliers
 
On 2/9/2013 10:35 PM, Ignoramus19809 wrote:
On 2013-02-09, axolotl wrote:
On 2/9/2013 3:22 PM, Ignoramus19809 wrote:
If I was to buy steel at a metal supplier, in the quantity of a ton or
so, how much would it cost per lb? I mean metal such as hot rolled
rounds 1-3 inches thick, 4140, rectangular solid stock etc.

I want to price my 15 tons of steel below market, and I want to know
what "market" really is.

thanks


Yarde Metals also sells drops and surplus material. They offer certs and
if the order is large enough, delivery. They have prices on line.

http://www.yarde.com/index.html

Kevin Gallimore


Looks like they want almost 2 dollArs per lb


Lots of centers around here sell for a lot less and a lot more depending
on the item. Each service center specializes in different stuff, they
aren't competitive across the board. What was quoted $2/lb? Any D-2?

Michael A. Terrell February 10th 13 06:25 AM

COst of steel at metal suppliers
 

Tom Gardner wrote:

Lots of centers around here sell for a lot less and a lot more depending
on the item. Each service center specializes in different stuff, they
aren't competitive across the board. What was quoted $2/lb? Any D-2?



Are you trying to build a R2 droid?

Gunner[_7_] February 10th 13 12:10 PM

COst of steel at metal suppliers
 
On Sat, 09 Feb 2013 21:35:24 -0600, Ignoramus19809
wrote:

On 2013-02-09, axolotl wrote:
On 2/9/2013 3:22 PM, Ignoramus19809 wrote:
If I was to buy steel at a metal supplier, in the quantity of a ton or
so, how much would it cost per lb? I mean metal such as hot rolled
rounds 1-3 inches thick, 4140, rectangular solid stock etc.

I want to price my 15 tons of steel below market, and I want to know
what "market" really is.

thanks


Yarde Metals also sells drops and surplus material. They offer certs and
if the order is large enough, delivery. They have prices on line.

http://www.yarde.com/index.html

Kevin Gallimore


Looks like they want almost 2 dollArs per lb



In California..a lot of steel is $2.40/lb


The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie

Ignoramus2110 February 10th 13 01:19 PM

COst of steel at metal suppliers
 
On 2013-02-10, Tom Gardner Mars@Tacks wrote:
On 2/9/2013 10:35 PM, Ignoramus19809 wrote:
On 2013-02-09, axolotl wrote:
On 2/9/2013 3:22 PM, Ignoramus19809 wrote:
If I was to buy steel at a metal supplier, in the quantity of a ton or
so, how much would it cost per lb? I mean metal such as hot rolled
rounds 1-3 inches thick, 4140, rectangular solid stock etc.

I want to price my 15 tons of steel below market, and I want to know
what "market" really is.

thanks


Yarde Metals also sells drops and surplus material. They offer certs and
if the order is large enough, delivery. They have prices on line.

http://www.yarde.com/index.html

Kevin Gallimore


Looks like they want almost 2 dollArs per lb


Lots of centers around here sell for a lot less and a lot more depending
on the item. Each service center specializes in different stuff, they
aren't competitive across the board. What was quoted $2/lb? Any D-2?


I did not see any D-2, but I have a big block of O-1.

Transition Zone February 10th 13 08:57 PM

COst of steel at metal suppliers
 
On Feb 9, 4:59*pm, "azotic" wrote:
"Ignoramus19809" wrote in message

...









On 2013-02-09, azotic wrote:
"Ignoramus19809" wrote in message
om...
If I was to buy steel at a metal supplier, in the quantity of a ton or
so, how much would it cost per lb? I mean metal such as hot rolled
rounds 1-3 inches thick, 4140, rectangular solid stock etc.


I want to price my 15 tons of steel below market, and I want to know
what "market" really is.


thanks


New steel averages $1.10 per pound hear in las vegas. No discount for
how many tons you buy. My supplier has a scrap bin you pick that they
sell for .50 per pound. They will deliver for free if your order is over
$300, they also offer one free cut if your buying full length mill stock
typicaly 20-24Ft per piece.


Your gonna have to buy at scrap yard or below prices to make a
profit.


IU bought it for3 cents per lb


At that price you should be able to make some money.


The way you can make serious money at steel buying is to gamble at
buying futures. Get a loan and tell your supplier that you will pay
$2000 dollars today for as much steel as you can get for that price to
be delivered next month and hope he adds a few more pounds because you
are buying in bulk. If the price has gone up in that next month, you
will have already paid $2000 today so you will then be getting more
for the old price.

F.K.[_2_] February 11th 13 12:49 AM

COst of steel at metal suppliers
 
On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 12:51:59 -0800 (PST), Transition Zone
wrote:

On Feb 9, 3:22*pm, Ignoramus19809 ignoramus19...@NOSPAM.
19809.invalid wrote:
If I was to buy steel at a metal supplier, in the quantity of a ton

or
so, how much would it cost per lb ?


Depends upon what kind of steel and where. I remember I saw a TV
movie Columbo episode: "The Conspirators" (1978) which ended up being
about ships that traded cargo while out at sea. Could this be a cheap
way of avoiding cheap import duties ?? Like buying steel below
government-set prices??

(you do know that the price of steel is set by each country's
government, right)


No, I didn't know that. Could you enlighten us and advise us of the
U.S. National Agency that sets the price of steel in the U.S., and
perhaps in another one or two countries?


Ignoramus2110 February 11th 13 01:26 AM

COst of steel at metal suppliers
 
On 2013-02-11, F.K wrote:
On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 12:51:59 -0800 (PST), Transition Zone
wrote:

On Feb 9, 3:22?pm, Ignoramus19809 ignoramus19...@NOSPAM.
19809.invalid wrote:
If I was to buy steel at a metal supplier, in the quantity of a ton

or
so, how much would it cost per lb ?


Depends upon what kind of steel and where. I remember I saw a TV
movie Columbo episode: "The Conspirators" (1978) which ended up being
about ships that traded cargo while out at sea. Could this be a cheap
way of avoiding cheap import duties ?? Like buying steel below
government-set prices??

(you do know that the price of steel is set by each country's
government, right)


No, I didn't know that. Could you enlighten us and advise us of the
U.S. National Agency that sets the price of steel in the U.S., and
perhaps in another one or two countries?


It is called The Governmental Commission for Setting Steel Prices,
Eliminating Vice and Watching Craigslist.

i

john B. February 11th 13 01:44 AM

COst of steel at metal suppliers
 
On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 12:57:26 -0800 (PST), Transition Zone
wrote:

On Feb 9, 4:59*pm, "azotic" wrote:
"Ignoramus19809" wrote in message

...









On 2013-02-09, azotic wrote:
"Ignoramus19809" wrote in message
om...
If I was to buy steel at a metal supplier, in the quantity of a ton or
so, how much would it cost per lb? I mean metal such as hot rolled
rounds 1-3 inches thick, 4140, rectangular solid stock etc.


I want to price my 15 tons of steel below market, and I want to know
what "market" really is.


thanks


New steel averages $1.10 per pound hear in las vegas. No discount for
how many tons you buy. My supplier has a scrap bin you pick that they
sell for .50 per pound. They will deliver for free if your order is over
$300, they also offer one free cut if your buying full length mill stock
typicaly 20-24Ft per piece.


Your gonna have to buy at scrap yard or below prices to make a
profit.


IU bought it for3 cents per lb


At that price you should be able to make some money.


The way you can make serious money at steel buying is to gamble at
buying futures. Get a loan and tell your supplier that you will pay
$2000 dollars today for as much steel as you can get for that price to
be delivered next month and hope he adds a few more pounds because you
are buying in bulk. If the price has gone up in that next month, you
will have already paid $2000 today so you will then be getting more
for the old price.


For $2,000 why bother. Just order $2,000 worth of steel and have it
dropped off over in the corner of the lot. You now own $2,000 worth of
steel at today's price.

--
Cheers,

John B.

Ignoramus2110 February 11th 13 02:28 AM

COst of steel at metal suppliers
 
On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 12:57:26 -0800 (PST), Transition Zone wrote:
The way you can make serious money at steel buying is to gamble at
buying futures. Get a loan and tell your supplier that you will pay
$2000 dollars today for as much steel as you can get for that price to
be delivered next month and hope he adds a few more pounds because you
are buying in bulk. If the price has gone up in that next month, you
will have already paid $2000 today so you will then be getting more
for the old price.


And what if the price has gone down?

And how do you make a profit from buying retail product at retail
price?

i

john B. February 11th 13 05:52 AM

COst of steel at metal suppliers
 
On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 20:28:15 -0600, Ignoramus2110
wrote:

On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 12:57:26 -0800 (PST), Transition Zone wrote:
The way you can make serious money at steel buying is to gamble at
buying futures. Get a loan and tell your supplier that you will pay
$2000 dollars today for as much steel as you can get for that price to
be delivered next month and hope he adds a few more pounds because you
are buying in bulk. If the price has gone up in that next month, you
will have already paid $2000 today so you will then be getting more
for the old price.


And what if the price has gone down?

And how do you make a profit from buying retail product at retail
price?

i

I was being sarcastic as the original poster apparently knows little
about the futures market and how it functions.

But wholesale or retail you make a profit the same way - buy cheap and
sell dear.

--
Cheers,

John B.

Ignoramus2110 February 11th 13 06:02 AM

COst of steel at metal suppliers
 
On 2013-02-11, John B wrote:
On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 20:28:15 -0600, Ignoramus2110
wrote:

On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 12:57:26 -0800 (PST), Transition Zone wrote:
The way you can make serious money at steel buying is to gamble at
buying futures. Get a loan and tell your supplier that you will pay
$2000 dollars today for as much steel as you can get for that price to
be delivered next month and hope he adds a few more pounds because you
are buying in bulk. If the price has gone up in that next month, you
will have already paid $2000 today so you will then be getting more
for the old price.


And what if the price has gone down?

And how do you make a profit from buying retail product at retail
price?

i

I was being sarcastic as the original poster apparently knows little
about the futures market and how it functions.


Yep, really no clue.

But wholesale or retail you make a profit the same way - buy cheap and
sell dear.


I am just saying, if you buy retail, there is not much money to be
made further.
i


Tom Gardner[_6_] February 11th 13 06:46 AM

COst of steel at metal suppliers
 
On 2/10/2013 8:19 AM, Ignoramus2110 wrote:
I did not see any D-2, but I have a big block of O-1.


What are the measurements and weight?


Tom Gardner[_6_] February 11th 13 06:49 AM

COst of steel at metal suppliers
 
On 2/10/2013 1:25 AM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Tom Gardner wrote:

Lots of centers around here sell for a lot less and a lot more depending
on the item. Each service center specializes in different stuff, they
aren't competitive across the board. What was quoted $2/lb? Any D-2?



Are you trying to build a R2 droid?


You are silly! I always have parts to make out of tool steel and try to
keep a good stock of sizes.

john B. February 11th 13 10:57 AM

COst of steel at metal suppliers
 
On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 00:02:22 -0600, Ignoramus2110
wrote:

On 2013-02-11, John B wrote:
On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 20:28:15 -0600, Ignoramus2110
wrote:

On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 12:57:26 -0800 (PST), Transition Zone wrote:
The way you can make serious money at steel buying is to gamble at
buying futures. Get a loan and tell your supplier that you will pay
$2000 dollars today for as much steel as you can get for that price to
be delivered next month and hope he adds a few more pounds because you
are buying in bulk. If the price has gone up in that next month, you
will have already paid $2000 today so you will then be getting more
for the old price.

And what if the price has gone down?

And how do you make a profit from buying retail product at retail
price?

i

I was being sarcastic as the original poster apparently knows little
about the futures market and how it functions.


Yep, really no clue.

But wholesale or retail you make a profit the same way - buy cheap and
sell dear.


I am just saying, if you buy retail, there is not much money to be
made further.
i

Unless, or course you can find someone to pay more than retail :-)

And before you say "Impossible!" have a look at Starbucks.

--
Cheers,

John B.

Ignoramus22507 February 11th 13 11:56 AM

COst of steel at metal suppliers
 
On 2013-02-11, Tom Gardner Mars@Tacks wrote:
On 2/10/2013 8:19 AM, Ignoramus2110 wrote:
I did not see any D-2, but I have a big block of O-1.


What are the measurements and weight?


6x3x44, appx 223 lbs

Michael A. Terrell February 11th 13 02:41 PM

COst of steel at metal suppliers
 

Tom Gardner wrote:

On 2/10/2013 1:25 AM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Tom Gardner wrote:

Lots of centers around here sell for a lot less and a lot more depending
on the item. Each service center specializes in different stuff, they
aren't competitive across the board. What was quoted $2/lb? Any D-2?



Are you trying to build a R2 droid?


You are silly! I always have parts to make out of tool steel and try to
keep a good stock of sizes.



Silly? Droids don't join unions!

Transition Zone February 11th 13 08:27 PM

COst of steel at metal suppliers
 
On Feb 10, 8:26*pm, Ignoramus2110
wrote:
On 2013-02-11, F.K wrote:

On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 12:51:59 -0800 (PST), Transition Zone
wrote:


On Feb 9, 3:22?pm, Ignoramus19809 ignoramus19...@NOSPAM.
19809.invalid wrote:
*If I was to buy steel at a metal supplier, in the quantity of a ton
or
*so, *how much would it cost per lb ?


Depends upon what kind of steel and where. *I remember I saw a TV
movie Columbo episode: "The Conspirators" (1978) which ended up being
about ships that traded cargo while out at sea. *Could this be a cheap
way of avoiding cheap import duties ?? *Like buying steel below
government-set prices??


(you do know that the price of steel is set by each country's
government, right)


No, I didn't know that. Could you enlighten us and advise us of the
U.S. National Agency that sets the price of steel in the U.S., and
perhaps in another one or two countries?


It is called The Governmental Commission for Setting Steel Prices,
Eliminating Vice and Watching Craigslist.


Peachy try, ig.

Why can't it be the Office of the United States Trade Representative
(USTR) ??

Transition Zone February 11th 13 08:55 PM

COst of steel at metal suppliers
 
On Feb 10, 7:49*pm, F.K. wrote:
On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 12:51:59 -0800 (PST), Transition Zone

wrote:
On Feb 9, 3:22*pm, Ignoramus19809 ignoramus19...@NOSPAM.
19809.invalid wrote:
*If I was to buy steel at a metal supplier, in the quantity of a ton
or
*so, *how much would it cost per lb ?


Depends upon what kind of steel and where. *I remember I saw a TV
movie Columbo episode: "The Conspirators" (1978) which ended up being
about ships that traded cargo while out at sea. *Could this be a cheap
way of avoiding cheap import duties ?? *Like buying steel below
government-set prices??


(you do know that the price of steel is set by each country's
government, right)


No, I didn't know that.


Really?

Could you enlighten us and advise us of the U.S. National Agency that sets the price of steel in the U.S.,


Why, yes. Its called the Department of Commerce.

"A Mexican pipe manufacturer has retracted its challenge to anti-
dumping duties assessed by the U.S. Department of Commerce"
-- http://www.law360.com/internationalt...dumping-duties

., and perhaps in another one or two countries?


Sure. 経済産*省 , pronounced "kei - zai - san - gyoo - shoo" (けいざいさんぎょうしょ
う) , got it, yet? (けいざいさんぎょうしょう) "kei - zai - san - gyoo - shoo". It
means Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry.

john B. February 12th 13 12:54 AM

COst of steel at metal suppliers
 
On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 12:27:10 -0800 (PST), Transition Zone
wrote:

On Feb 10, 8:26*pm, Ignoramus2110
wrote:
On 2013-02-11, F.K wrote:

On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 12:51:59 -0800 (PST), Transition Zone
wrote:


On Feb 9, 3:22?pm, Ignoramus19809 ignoramus19...@NOSPAM.
19809.invalid wrote:
*If I was to buy steel at a metal supplier, in the quantity of a ton
or
*so, *how much would it cost per lb ?


Depends upon what kind of steel and where. *I remember I saw a TV
movie Columbo episode: "The Conspirators" (1978) which ended up being
about ships that traded cargo while out at sea. *Could this be a cheap
way of avoiding cheap import duties ?? *Like buying steel below
government-set prices??


(you do know that the price of steel is set by each country's
government, right)


No, I didn't know that. Could you enlighten us and advise us of the
U.S. National Agency that sets the price of steel in the U.S., and
perhaps in another one or two countries?


It is called The Governmental Commission for Setting Steel Prices,
Eliminating Vice and Watching Craigslist.


Peachy try, ig.

Why can't it be the Office of the United States Trade Representative
(USTR) ??


Because they do not set the price of iron and steel...
--
Cheers,

John B.

john B. February 12th 13 12:59 AM

COst of steel at metal suppliers
 
On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 12:55:45 -0800 (PST), Transition Zone
wrote:

On Feb 10, 7:49*pm, F.K. wrote:
On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 12:51:59 -0800 (PST), Transition Zone

wrote:
On Feb 9, 3:22*pm, Ignoramus19809 ignoramus19...@NOSPAM.
19809.invalid wrote:
*If I was to buy steel at a metal supplier, in the quantity of a ton
or
*so, *how much would it cost per lb ?


Depends upon what kind of steel and where. *I remember I saw a TV
movie Columbo episode: "The Conspirators" (1978) which ended up being
about ships that traded cargo while out at sea. *Could this be a cheap
way of avoiding cheap import duties ?? *Like buying steel below
government-set prices??


(you do know that the price of steel is set by each country's
government, right)


No, I didn't know that.


Really?

Could you enlighten us and advise us of the U.S. National Agency that sets the price of steel in the U.S.,


Why, yes. Its called the Department of Commerce.

"A Mexican pipe manufacturer has retracted its challenge to anti-
dumping duties assessed by the U.S. Department of Commerce"
-- http://www.law360.com/internationalt...dumping-duties


But that is not "setting steel prices". According to your reference it
is a case where the maker was selling in the U.S. at a cheaper price
then he sold in his own country, referred to as "dumping".
--
Cheers,

John B.

Tom Gardner[_6_] February 12th 13 01:48 AM

COst of steel at metal suppliers
 
On 2/11/2013 9:41 AM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Tom Gardner wrote:

On 2/10/2013 1:25 AM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Tom Gardner wrote:

Lots of centers around here sell for a lot less and a lot more depending
on the item. Each service center specializes in different stuff, they
aren't competitive across the board. What was quoted $2/lb? Any D-2?


Are you trying to build a R2 droid?


You are silly! I always have parts to make out of tool steel and try to
keep a good stock of sizes.



Silly? Droids don't join unions!


Unless you give them a coat of paint!

Tom Gardner[_6_] February 12th 13 01:49 AM

COst of steel at metal suppliers
 
On 2/11/2013 6:56 AM, Ignoramus22507 wrote:
On 2013-02-11, Tom Gardner Mars@Tacks wrote:
On 2/10/2013 8:19 AM, Ignoramus2110 wrote:
I did not see any D-2, but I have a big block of O-1.


What are the measurements and weight?


6x3x44, appx 223 lbs


How many brushes of what kind do you want for it?

Ignoramus22507 February 12th 13 02:19 AM

COst of steel at metal suppliers
 
On 2013-02-12, Tom Gardner Mars@Tacks wrote:
On 2/11/2013 6:56 AM, Ignoramus22507 wrote:
On 2013-02-11, Tom Gardner Mars@Tacks wrote:
On 2/10/2013 8:19 AM, Ignoramus2110 wrote:
I did not see any D-2, but I have a big block of O-1.


What are the measurements and weight?


6x3x44, appx 223 lbs


How many brushes of what kind do you want for it?


Special rec.crafts.metalworking price is $1/lb. ATM I have a lot of
brushes, we mostly use 4 and 6 inch cup brushes.

i

Michael A. Terrell February 12th 13 02:58 AM

COst of steel at metal suppliers
 

Tom Gardner wrote:

On 2/11/2013 9:41 AM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Tom Gardner wrote:

On 2/10/2013 1:25 AM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Tom Gardner wrote:

Lots of centers around here sell for a lot less and a lot more depending
on the item. Each service center specializes in different stuff, they
aren't competitive across the board. What was quoted $2/lb? Any D-2?


Are you trying to build a R2 droid?


You are silly! I always have parts to make out of tool steel and try to
keep a good stock of sizes.



Silly? Droids don't join unions!


Unless you give them a coat of paint!



Never give them anything except a recharge & change the oil every 90
days. Those are their first & second rights. They have no other
rights. No Cable TV, No right to sing the blues...

Tom Gardner[_6_] February 12th 13 04:33 PM

COst of steel at metal suppliers
 
On 2/11/2013 9:19 PM, Ignoramus22507 wrote:
On 2013-02-12, Tom Gardner Mars@Tacks wrote:
On 2/11/2013 6:56 AM, Ignoramus22507 wrote:
On 2013-02-11, Tom Gardner Mars@Tacks wrote:
On 2/10/2013 8:19 AM, Ignoramus2110 wrote:
I did not see any D-2, but I have a big block of O-1.


What are the measurements and weight?


6x3x44, appx 223 lbs


How many brushes of what kind do you want for it?


Special rec.crafts.metalworking price is $1/lb. ATM I have a lot of
brushes, we mostly use 4 and 6 inch cup brushes.

i



Let me see what freight would be, can and will you cut it?

Transition Zone February 12th 13 08:46 PM

COst of steel at metal suppliers
 
On Feb 11, 7:59*pm, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 12:55:45 -0800 (PST), Transition Zone









wrote:
On Feb 10, 7:49*pm, F.K. wrote:
On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 12:51:59 -0800 (PST), Transition Zone


wrote:
On Feb 9, 3:22*pm, Ignoramus19809 ignoramus19...@NOSPAM.
19809.invalid wrote:
*If I was to buy steel at a metal supplier, in the quantity of a ton
or
*so, *how much would it cost per lb ?


Depends upon what kind of steel and where. *I remember I saw a TV
movie Columbo episode: "The Conspirators" (1978) which ended up being
about ships that traded cargo while out at sea. *Could this be a cheap
way of avoiding cheap import duties ?? *Like buying steel below
government-set prices??


(you do know that the price of steel is set by each country's
government, right)


No, I didn't know that.


Really?


Could you enlighten us and advise us of the U.S. National Agency that sets the price of steel in the U.S.,


Why, yes. Its called the Department of Commerce.


"A Mexican pipe manufacturer has retracted its challenge to anti-
dumping duties assessed by the U.S. Department of Commerce"
--http://www.law360.com/internationaltrade/articles/370796/mexican-pipe...


But that is not "setting steel prices". According to your reference it
is a case where the maker was selling in the U.S. at a cheaper price
then he sold in his own country, referred to as "dumping".


Which you can't do unless a price is set ... in both countries. Now.
You think I'm lying? Just go and buy a ton or more of steel overseas
at below that price and watch what happens.

Ignoramus2009 February 12th 13 09:24 PM

COst of steel at metal suppliers
 
On 2013-02-12, Tom Gardner Mars@Tacks wrote:
On 2/11/2013 9:19 PM, Ignoramus22507 wrote:
On 2013-02-12, Tom Gardner Mars@Tacks wrote:
On 2/11/2013 6:56 AM, Ignoramus22507 wrote:
On 2013-02-11, Tom Gardner Mars@Tacks wrote:
On 2/10/2013 8:19 AM, Ignoramus2110 wrote:
I did not see any D-2, but I have a big block of O-1.


What are the measurements and weight?


6x3x44, appx 223 lbs


How many brushes of what kind do you want for it?


Special rec.crafts.metalworking price is $1/lb. ATM I have a lot of
brushes, we mostly use 4 and 6 inch cup brushes.

i



Let me see what freight would be, can and will you cut it?


Should be about $148 to ship to location with forklift.

Or free pick-up from me.

I am not sure if I can cut O-1, I have a 12 inch bandsaw.

i


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