I want to make a hand operated kindling maker. When I split logs, I split
some about 1? thick, kind of like planks. But I don't like using a hatchet,
knowing me and the laws of probability will probably get me the nickname of
Stumpy eventually.

Anyone see or could suggest a model for just splitting off small kindling
sized pieces of wood? I was thinking of making a hand model like the old
beer can piercers of the 1950's with a lever and a wedge, putting the piece
of wood close to the attachment point of the lever, where there's the most
leverage. Or make a hatchet that would have a bolt through the end of the
handle, and just drop onto the end of a standing piece of wood to cut off a
small slice.

Looking for something slightly automated, as carpal tunnel getting real bad.

Steve

"Steve B" wrote in message
...
I want to make a hand operated kindling maker. When I split logs, I
split some about 1? thick, kind of like planks. But I don't like
using a hatchet, knowing me and the laws of probability will probably
get me the nickname of Stumpy eventually.

Anyone see or could suggest a model for just splitting off small
kindling sized pieces of wood? I was thinking of making a hand
model like the old beer can piercers of the 1950's with a lever and
a wedge, putting the piece of wood close to the attachment point of
the lever, where there's the most leverage. Or make a hatchet that
would have a bolt through the end of the handle, and just drop onto
the end of a standing piece of wood to cut off a small slice.

Looking for something slightly automated, as carpal tunnel getting
real bad.

Steve

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Froe

jsw

"Jim Wilkins" wrote in message
...
"Steve B" wrote in message
...
I want to make a hand operated kindling maker. When I split logs, I split
some about 1? thick, kind of like planks. But I don't like using a
hatchet, knowing me and the laws of probability will probably get me the
nickname of Stumpy eventually.

Anyone see or could suggest a model for just splitting off small kindling
sized pieces of wood? I was thinking of making a hand model like the old
beer can piercers of the 1950's with a lever and a wedge, putting the
piece of wood close to the attachment point of the lever, where there's
the most leverage. Or make a hatchet that would have a bolt through the
end of the handle, and just drop onto the end of a standing piece of wood
to cut off a small slice.

Looking for something slightly automated, as carpal tunnel getting real
bad.

Steve

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Froe



Yup.

Recalling that we used an old bowling pin for a mallet.

"PrecisionmachinisT" wrote in
message
"Jim Wilkins" wrote in message

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Froe

Yup.

Recalling that we used an old bowling pin for a mallet.

To be pedantic, you beat on a froe with a "beetle".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2h1ofWW35k

jsw

On Thu, 20 Dec 2012 21:24:55 -0500, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"PrecisionmachinisT" wrote in
message
"Jim Wilkins" wrote in message

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Froe

Yup.

Recalling that we used an old bowling pin for a mallet.

To be pedantic, you beat on a froe with a "beetle".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2h1ofWW35k

jsw

This one looks very very easy to make

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...lacH1hlWg&NR=1

I LIKE IT!!!


The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie

This one looks very very easy to make

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...lacH1hlWg&NR=1



While you're at Home Depot for the roof patch.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/t/2025312...8#.UPF41PI_euI

http://www.homedepot.com/p/t/2020241...2#.UPF4-PI_euI

meld these two together.

On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 09:56:55 -0700, "Steve B"
wrote:

I want to make a hand operated kindling maker. When I split logs, I split
some about 1? thick, kind of like planks. But I don't like using a hatchet,
knowing me and the laws of probability will probably get me the nickname of
Stumpy eventually.

Anyone see or could suggest a model for just splitting off small kindling
sized pieces of wood? I was thinking of making a hand model like the old
beer can piercers of the 1950's with a lever and a wedge, putting the piece
of wood close to the attachment point of the lever, where there's the most
leverage. Or make a hatchet that would have a bolt through the end of the
handle, and just drop onto the end of a standing piece of wood to cut off a
small slice.

Looking for something slightly automated, as carpal tunnel getting real bad.

Steve


My dad used a 12 year old kid to make kindling - paid him $0.10 an
hour as I remember. (I've still got all my fingers :?)
--
Cheers,
John B.

On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 09:56:55 -0700, "Steve B"
wrote:


Anyone see or could suggest a model for just splitting off small
kindling sized pieces of wood? I was thinking of making a hand model
like the old beer can piercers of the 1950's with a lever and a wedge,
putting the piece of wood close to the attachment point of the lever,
where there's the most leverage. Or make a hatchet that would have a
bolt through the end of the handle, and just drop onto the end of a
standing piece of wood to cut off a small slice.

What you're looking for is the full-scale version of the old Ronco Veg-O-
Matic slicer.

That sounds like a worthy metalworking project to me!

LLoyd

Lloyd E. Sponenburgh wrote:
On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 09:56:55 -0700, "Steve B"
wrote:

Anyone see or could suggest a model for just splitting off small
kindling sized pieces of wood? I was thinking of making a hand model
like the old beer can piercers of the 1950's with a lever and a wedge,
putting the piece of wood close to the attachment point of the lever,
where there's the most leverage. Or make a hatchet that would have a
bolt through the end of the handle, and just drop onto the end of a
standing piece of wood to cut off a small slice.

What you're looking for is the full-scale version of the old Ronco Veg-O-
Matic slicer.

That sounds like a worthy metalworking project to me!

LLoyd

Home built trip hammer with a splitting edge instead of a hammer head.

--
Steve W.

"Steve W." wrote in message
...
...
Home built trip hammer with a splitting edge instead of a hammer
head.
Steve W.

I watched one at an antique engine meet. The operator ran it
continuously and it looked like a fast way to lose meat. The froe
keeps the wood from falling over with your steadying hand above the
descending edge rather than below it. A slow-moving hydraulic splitter
is dangerous enough as is.

jsw

Anyone see or could suggest a model for just splitting off small kindling
sized pieces of wood? I was thinking of making a hand model like the old
beer can piercers of the 1950's with a lever and a wedge, putting the
piece of wood close to the attachment point of the lever, where there's
the most leverage. Or make a hatchet that would have a bolt through the
end of the handle, and just drop onto the end of a standing piece of wood
to cut off a small slice.

Looking for something slightly automated, as carpal tunnel getting real
bad.

Steve


English "Captive hatchet"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ko0Dv26SCAA

http://www.logsplittersworld.co.uk/p...g_Splitter.htm

Yeah, I'm Stumpy

On Thu, 20 Dec 2012 08:17:23 -0800, "Stumpy"
wrote:


Anyone see or could suggest a model for just splitting off small kindling
sized pieces of wood? I was thinking of making a hand model like the old
beer can piercers of the 1950's with a lever and a wedge, putting the
piece of wood close to the attachment point of the lever, where there's
the most leverage. Or make a hatchet that would have a bolt through the
end of the handle, and just drop onto the end of a standing piece of wood
to cut off a small slice.

Looking for something slightly automated, as carpal tunnel getting real
bad.

Steve


English "Captive hatchet"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ko0Dv26SCAA

That for damn sure ain't live oak.


http://www.logsplittersworld.co.uk/p...g_Splitter.htm

Yeah, I'm Stumpy

On Thu, 20 Dec 2012 08:17:23 -0800, "Stumpy"
wrote:


Anyone see or could suggest a model for just splitting off small kindling
sized pieces of wood? I was thinking of making a hand model like the old
beer can piercers of the 1950's with a lever and a wedge, putting the
piece of wood close to the attachment point of the lever, where there's
the most leverage. Or make a hatchet that would have a bolt through the
end of the handle, and just drop onto the end of a standing piece of wood
to cut off a small slice.

Looking for something slightly automated, as carpal tunnel getting real
bad.

Steve


English "Captive hatchet"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ko0Dv26SCAA

Thats a pretty damned good idea!!

Thanks for posting that!!



http://www.logsplittersworld.co.uk/p...g_Splitter.htm

Yeah, I'm Stumpy

Gunner, who lives in the desert where there is no wood.


The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie

English "Captive hatchet"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ko0Dv26SCAA

Thats a pretty damned good idea!!

Thanks for posting that!!



http://www.logsplittersworld.co.uk/p...g_Splitter.htm

Yeah, I'm Stumpy

Gunner, who lives in the desert where there is no wood.



You bet.

The Nordic one you showed Jim would be easier to fabricate.

On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 22:48:16 -0800, "Stumpy"
wrote:



English "Captive hatchet"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ko0Dv26SCAA

Thats a pretty damned good idea!!

Thanks for posting that!!



http://www.logsplittersworld.co.uk/p...g_Splitter.htm

Yeah, I'm Stumpy

Gunner, who lives in the desert where there is no wood.



You bet.

The Nordic one you showed Jim would be easier to fabricate.

Ive got a as yet uninstalled wood stove in my shop and while I need
some stove pipe (expensive ****!!!) to go through a steel roof...I
think Ill fab up a spltter like that. I run into some wood on occasion
and while a lot of it is pine lumber scraps...I can snag a few cut
down trees every now and then.

Anyone have any good ideas where to get stove pipe? And do I really
need double wall, simply for a shop heater?

Gunner

The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie

Gunner wrote:

Ive got a as yet uninstalled wood stove in my shop and while I need
some stove pipe (expensive ****!!!) to go through a steel roof...I
think Ill fab up a spltter like that. I run into some wood on occasion
and while a lot of it is pine lumber scraps...I can snag a few cut
down trees every now and then.

Anyone have any good ideas where to get stove pipe? And do I really
need double wall, simply for a shop heater?


Ask your insurance company. You may lose all coverage if you don't.

On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 05:29:53 -0800, Gunner
wrote:

On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 22:48:16 -0800, "Stumpy"
wrote:



English "Captive hatchet"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ko0Dv26SCAA

Thats a pretty damned good idea!!

Thanks for posting that!!



http://www.logsplittersworld.co.uk/p...g_Splitter.htm

Yeah, I'm Stumpy

Gunner, who lives in the desert where there is no wood.



You bet.

The Nordic one you showed Jim would be easier to fabricate.

Ive got a as yet uninstalled wood stove in my shop and while I need
some stove pipe (expensive ****!!!) to go through a steel roof...I
think Ill fab up a spltter like that. I run into some wood on occasion
and while a lot of it is pine lumber scraps...I can snag a few cut
down trees every now and then.

Anyone have any good ideas where to get stove pipe? And do I really
need double wall, simply for a shop heater?

No, the double wall would route the heat outside. Save the double
walled stuff for safely going thru walls/roofs. Devise a way to
capture all of the heat from the pipe and blow it around the "shop".
(Got full walls and a sealed envelope yet?) That keeps bare arms and
hands away from the hot pipe, too.

Got a metal fabber and folder? Make your own tube from sheetmetal.
Audel put out a handy book on sheetmetal work early in the last
century and it's still valid.

--
Learning to ignore things is one of the great paths to inner peace.
-- Robert J. Sawyer

"Gunner" wrote in message
...
..
Ive got a as yet uninstalled wood stove in my shop and while I need
some stove pipe (expensive ****!!!) to go through a steel roof...I
think Ill fab up a spltter like that. I run into some wood on
occasion
and while a lot of it is pine lumber scraps...I can snag a few cut
down trees every now and then.

Anyone have any good ideas where to get stove pipe? And do I really
need double wall, simply for a shop heater?

Gunner

http://www.hearth.com/econtent/index...ng_a_woodstove

Mine is set up like Type #2. Having the cleanout plug in line and
outdoors makes cleaning it easy and neat. I spray-painted the chimney
to match the house.

Gunner wrote:
On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 22:48:16 -0800, "Stumpy"
wrote:


English "Captive hatchet"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ko0Dv26SCAA

Thats a pretty damned good idea!!

Thanks for posting that!!



http://www.logsplittersworld.co.uk/p...g_Splitter.htm

Yeah, I'm Stumpy


Gunner, who lives in the desert where there is no wood.



You bet.

The Nordic one you showed Jim would be easier to fabricate.


Ive got a as yet uninstalled wood stove in my shop and while I need
some stove pipe (expensive ****!!!) to go through a steel roof...I
think Ill fab up a spltter like that. I run into some wood on occasion
and while a lot of it is pine lumber scraps...I can snag a few cut
down trees every now and then.

Anyone have any good ideas where to get stove pipe? And do I really
need double wall, simply for a shop heater?

Gunner

In the UK my local scrap metal places frequently have quite a selection
of flue pipe in rigid and flexible, usually on the stainless pile and
often on good condition. Might be the same your way.

On Wednesday, December 19, 2012 9:56:55 AM UTC-7, Steve B wrote:
I want to make a hand operated kindling maker. When I split logs, I split

some about 1? thick, kind of like planks. But I don't like using a hatchet,

knowing me and the laws of probability will probably get me the nickname of

Stumpy eventually.



Anyone see or could suggest a model for just splitting off small kindling

sized pieces of wood? I was thinking of making a hand model like the old

beer can piercers of the 1950's with a lever and a wedge, putting the piece

of wood close to the attachment point of the lever, where there's the most

leverage. Or make a hatchet that would have a bolt through the end of the

handle, and just drop onto the end of a standing piece of wood to cut off a

small slice.



Looking for something slightly automated, as carpal tunnel getting real bad.



Steve

Hey Steve,
After about 20 prototypes I think I have what you are looking for.
Visit www.thekindlingmaker.com No more swinging an ax or hatchet. It is also portable so good for taking camping.

Charles "Chic" Tyson

In article ,
says...

Hey Steve,
After about 20 prototypes I think I have what you are looking for.
Visit www.thekindlingmaker.com No more swinging an ax or hatchet. It is also portable so good for taking camping.

Charles "Chic" Tyson

http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/pag...32&cat=1,41131

On Wed, 2 Apr 2014 08:00:21 -0500, phorbin wrote:

In article ,
says...

Hey Steve,
After about 20 prototypes I think I have what you are looking for.
Visit www.thekindlingmaker.com No more swinging an ax or hatchet. It is also portable so good for taking camping.

Charles "Chic" Tyson

http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/pag...32&cat=1,41131

On the other hand, that girl who was traveling to Alaska could opt for
an axe and have, not only a useful defense device, but also a device
to make kindling and, if she gets a single bitted axe, she can also
drive nails, spikes and smash drink cans.

A multi-purpose device.
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Wednesday, December 19, 2012 9:56:55 AM UTC-7, Steve B wrote:
I want to make a hand operated kindling maker.

Steve,
Check out www.thekindlingmaker.com
Somewhat automated but works real easy. It is also potable so you can take it camping.

Charles

On Tue, 1 Apr 2014 06:33:47 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Wednesday, December 19, 2012 9:56:55 AM UTC-7, Steve B wrote:
I want to make a hand operated kindling maker.

Steve,
Check out www.thekindlingmaker.com
Somewhat automated but works real easy. It is also potable so you can take it camping.

Charles

And does it crush beer cans too?

Thats actually very cool.

Gunner

--

"
I was once told by a “gun safety” advocate back in the Nineties
that he favored total civilian firearms confiscation.
Only the military and police should have weapons he averred and what did I think about that?

I began to give him a reasoned answer and he
cut me off with an abrupt, “Give me the short answer.”

I thought for a moment and said, “If you try to take our firearms we will kill you.”"

On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 07:48:22 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 1 Apr 2014 06:33:47 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Wednesday, December 19, 2012 9:56:55 AM UTC-7, Steve B wrote:
I want to make a hand operated kindling maker.

Steve,
Check out www.thekindlingmaker.com
Somewhat automated but works real easy. It is also potable so you can take it camping.

Charles

And does it crush beer cans too?
My can crusher is an old ten pound hammer that I use on pop cans; the
first drop, the hammer bounces provided my aim is good (due to trapped
air). I really want to drill the hndle and install a steam whistle.
After the second drop, the can is about 1/4" thick top to bottom. As
far as splitting kindling - lay a piece of dry cedar down and hit it
with my old ten pounder and touch a match to the remains and fire
happens.

Thats actually very cool.

Gunner
---

Gerry :-)}
London,Canada

On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 21:27:11 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 07:48:22 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 1 Apr 2014 06:33:47 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Wednesday, December 19, 2012 9:56:55 AM UTC-7, Steve B wrote:
I want to make a hand operated kindling maker.

Steve,
Check out www.thekindlingmaker.com
Somewhat automated but works real easy. It is also potable so you can take it camping.

Do you think he sells any of those? I'd be willing to bet that 100
(1,000?) are made by DIYers for every one he sells at ninety bucks.


And does it crush beer cans too?
My can crusher is an old ten pound hammer that I use on pop cans; the
first drop, the hammer bounces provided my aim is good (due to trapped
air). I really want to drill the hndle and install a steam whistle.
After the second drop, the can is about 1/4" thick top to bottom. As
far as splitting kindling - lay a piece of dry cedar down and hit it
with my old ten pounder and touch a match to the remains and fire
happens.

Replacing all those #10 hammers must be expensive. Do they burn well?
BTW, that sounds like too much work.

--
I would be the most content if my children grew up to be the kind of people
who think decorating consists mostly of building enough bookshelves.
-- Anna Quindlen

On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 21:27:11 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 07:48:22 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 1 Apr 2014 06:33:47 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Wednesday, December 19, 2012 9:56:55 AM UTC-7, Steve B wrote:
I want to make a hand operated kindling maker.

Steve,
Check out www.thekindlingmaker.com
Somewhat automated but works real easy. It is also potable so you can take it camping.

http://www.gizmag.com/mr-quicksplit-...g-maker/25385/
The Canuck version at only $150. thud

Hmm, $10 worth of flat iron/u-channel/nuts/bolts, half an hour's work,
a little paint, and Robert's your Father's Brother.

--
I would be the most content if my children grew up to be the kind of people
who think decorating consists mostly of building enough bookshelves.
-- Anna Quindlen

On 4/1/2014 9:27 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 07:48:22 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 1 Apr 2014 06:33:47 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Wednesday, December 19, 2012 9:56:55 AM UTC-7, Steve B wrote:
I want to make a hand operated kindling maker.

Steve,
Check out www.thekindlingmaker.com
Somewhat automated but works real easy. It is also potable so you can take it camping.

Charles

And does it crush beer cans too?
My can crusher is an old ten pound hammer that I use on pop cans; the
first drop, the hammer bounces provided my aim is good (due to trapped
air). I really want to drill the hndle and install a steam whistle.
After the second drop, the can is about 1/4" thick top to bottom. As
far as splitting kindling - lay a piece of dry cedar down and hit it
with my old ten pounder and touch a match to the remains and fire
happens.

Thats actually very cool.

Gunner
---

Gerry :-)}
London,Canada


I once set up a 50 ton punch press with two flat steel surfaces and used
it to crush pop cans. They came out 1/16" thick. I was afraid of
breaking something if I set it thinner.

On Wednesday, December 19, 2012 9:56:55 AM UTC-7, Steve B wrote:
I want to make a hand operated kindling maker.

Steve check out www.thekindlingmaker.com I think this would work great for you

Charles

On Wednesday, December 19, 2012 9:56:55 AM UTC-7, Steve B wrote:
I want to make a hand operated kindling maker. When I split logs, I split

some about 1? thick, kind of like planks. But I don't like using a hatchet,

knowing me and the laws of probability will probably get me the nickname of

Stumpy eventually.



Anyone see or could suggest a model for just splitting off small kindling

sized pieces of wood? I was thinking of making a hand model like the old

beer can piercers of the 1950's with a lever and a wedge, putting the piece

of wood close to the attachment point of the lever, where there's the most

leverage. Or make a hatchet that would have a bolt through the end of the

handle, and just drop onto the end of a standing piece of wood to cut off a

small slice.



Looking for something slightly automated, as carpal tunnel getting real bad.



Steve

Steve Check out www.thekindlingmaker.com