For those of you beathlessly waiting...I finally finished the
veneering, and after 35+ years, they're finally finished.
Pics he
http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth/sp1.html

Metal content: I guess I could run some Heavy Metal through them, or
better, some New Age techno-rock.
JR
HOME PAGE:
http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth
--------------------------------------------------

JR North fired this volley in
:

For those of you beathlessly waiting...I finally finished the
veneering, and after 35+ years, they're finally finished.
Pics he
http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth/sp1.html

Metal content: I guess I could run some Heavy Metal through them, or
better, some New Age techno-rock.

Wondering: 1) Why would you post that in a metalworking .sig?
2) Why does it take anyone 35 years to finish a couple of
speaker enclosures?

They look nice, and I'm sure they sound nice. But Wh???

LLoyd

"JR North" wrote in message ...
For those of you beathlessly waiting...I finally finished the
veneering, and after 35+ years, they're finally finished.
Pics he
http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth/sp1.html

Metal content: I guess I could run some Heavy Metal through them, or
better, some New Age techno-rock.
JR
HOME PAGE:
http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth
--------------------------------------------------

Nice work...

I'm still running the EV Sentry IV with 511B's on top

On Wed, 30 May 2012 17:25:45 -0700, JR North
wrote:

For those of you beathlessly waiting...I finally finished the
veneering, and after 35+ years, they're finally finished.
Pics he
http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth/sp1.html

Metal content: I guess I could run some Heavy Metal through them, or
better, some New Age techno-rock.

My dear Crom! Bondo, stain, and poly? my heart...my heart...

thud

--
When a quiet man is moved to passion, it seems the very earth will shake.
-- Stephanie Barron
(Something for the Powers That Be to remember, eh?)

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote in message
. 3.70...
JR North fired this volley in
:

For those of you beathlessly waiting...I finally finished the
veneering, and after 35+ years, they're finally finished.
Pics he
http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth/sp1.html

Metal content: I guess I could run some Heavy Metal through them, or
better, some New Age techno-rock.

Wondering: 1) Why would you post that in a metalworking .sig?

I guess you missed the page with the 75 oz magnet woofers.... LOL


2) Why does it take anyone 35 years to finish a couple of
speaker enclosures?

For the same reason no one bothers to finish fixing up their house until
they're ready to sell it... doh
Plus, they proly sounded great without the veneer.... LOL
--
EA



They look nice, and I'm sure they sound nice. But Wh???

LLoyd

"JR North" wrote in message
...
For those of you beathlessly waiting...I finally finished the
veneering, and after 35+ years, they're finally finished.
Pics he
http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth/sp1.html

Metal content: I guess I could run some Heavy Metal through them, or
better, some New Age techno-rock.

Good show!

Don't see too many 15" woofers these days, except in these criminally
negligent fukn boomcars.....
These days, in home systems, a woofer is.... 8"??? WTF??? Started by
Bose, I think.... LOL

But here's sumpn I always wondered:
In a speaker, doesn't the midrange carry most of the "acoustical
content"? Ergo the wattage??

I always thought the speaker enclosure should have multiple midrange
drivers, a la, in fact, the ole Bose 901's.

Are your woofers as good as, say, JBL's?? A 75 oz magnet sounds perty
ossum!

I went on an audio ng, apropos of my disgust with the sound of almost every
home stereo I've heard, wrt old AR3a or KLH or Rectilinear systems, and
axed,
What would you have to pay today to get the equivalent sound of AR3a
speakers..... which in the '70's mighta run $250 for the pair.

Answer: $2,000, minimum.

Goodgawd, and AR3a's back then, were really "basic" bookshelf-type speakers.

Cars are now 50% heavier than they were in the 70's, and are just now
eke'ing up to the mpg's of my ole Datsun 510..... WTF???

We are de-evolving, dats what.
--
EA





JR
HOME PAGE:
http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth
--------------------------------------------------

"Existential Angst" wrote in message
...
snip---
But here's sumpn I always wondered:
In a speaker, doesn't the midrange carry most of the "acoustical
content"? Ergo the wattage??

Correct. That's why the 375 drivers in my SR8 JBL speakers have a 28 pound
magnet. (They're a horn, not a coned speaker)

Harold

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote in message

2) Why does it take anyone 35 years to finish a couple of
speaker enclosures?

LLoyd

Mine are still bare plywood after 30 years.

jsw

"Jim Wilkins" fired this volley in news:jq7g6q$7sf$1
@dont-email.me:

Mine are still bare plywood after 30 years.

Yeah... I have a couple of "bookshelf" speakers like that. But-- they were
never INTENDED to be finished, and never will be.

I don't know... I guess I just like to do a job all the way through in one
stint.

Lloyd

"Existential Angst" fired this volley in
:

I went on an audio ng, apropos of my disgust with the sound of almost
every home stereo I've heard, wrt old AR3a or KLH or Rectilinear
systems, and axed,
What would you have to pay today to get the equivalent sound of
AR3a
speakers..... which in the '70's mighta run $250 for the pair.

I say, "Bring back the 'Sweet 16'!"

(remember that one?)

Lloyd

On May 31, 6:32*am, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:
"Jim Wilkins" fired this volley in news:jq7g6q$7sf$1
@dont-email.me:

Mine are still bare plywood after 30 years.

Yeah... I have a couple of "bookshelf" speakers like that.

I have actual bookshelves like that. After 30 years.

On Thu, 31 May 2012 08:46:22 GMT, "Harold & Susan Vordos"
wrote:


"Existential Angst" wrote in message
...
snip---
But here's sumpn I always wondered:
In a speaker, doesn't the midrange carry most of the "acoustical
content"? Ergo the wattage??

Correct. That's why the 375 drivers in my SR8 JBL speakers have a 28 pound
magnet. (They're a horn, not a coned speaker)

Braggart!

--
Self-development is a higher duty than self-sacrifice.
-- Elizabeth Cady Stanton

On Wed, 30 May 2012 17:25:45 -0700, JR North wrote:
....
Pics he
http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth/sp1.html
....
http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth

Note, the metalworking dropbox hosting site has changed, so on your
http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth/mw1.html page, links like
http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/_2002_retired_files/welder00.txt
need to be changed to form like
http://www.mwdropbox.com/dropbox/_2002_retired_files/welder00.txt

--
jiw

"Harold & Susan Vordos" wrote in message
...

"Existential Angst" wrote in message
...
snip---
But here's sumpn I always wondered:
In a speaker, doesn't the midrange carry most of the "acoustical
content"? Ergo the wattage??

Correct. That's why the 375 drivers in my SR8 JBL speakers have a 28
pound magnet. (They're a horn, not a coned speaker)

28 POUNDS???????? Holy ****......
Like the ole Altec Lansing Voice of the Theatre jobbies??

You lucky dog....
--
EA


Harold

On Thu, 31 May 2012 06:17:43 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Thu, 31 May 2012 08:46:22 GMT, "Harold & Susan Vordos"
wrote:


"Existential Angst" wrote in message
...
snip---
But here's sumpn I always wondered:
In a speaker, doesn't the midrange carry most of the "acoustical
content"? Ergo the wattage??

Correct. That's why the 375 drivers in my SR8 JBL speakers have a 28 pound
magnet. (They're a horn, not a coned speaker)

Braggart!
JBL = Junky But Loud - from a sound pro friend of mine.

wrote in message
...
On Thu, 31 May 2012 06:17:43 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Thu, 31 May 2012 08:46:22 GMT, "Harold & Susan Vordos"
wrote:


"Existential Angst" wrote in message
...
snip---
But here's sumpn I always wondered:
In a speaker, doesn't the midrange carry most of the "acoustical
content"? Ergo the wattage??

Correct. That's why the 375 drivers in my SR8 JBL speakers have a 28
pound
magnet. (They're a horn, not a coned speaker)

Braggart!
JBL = Junky But Loud - from a sound pro friend of mine.

And expensive.
--
EA

Ya, the 15"ers move some serious air, but need to be cranked to work
*really* well. The midrange do carry a big chunk of the range, but
don't need to be very heavy or complicated, and don't need alot of
power, as the frequency range is much higher.
The crossover network limits the range the speakers have to carry.
JR


On Wed, 30 May 2012 23:35:15 -0400, "Existential Angst"
wrote:

"JR North" wrote in message
.. .
For those of you beathlessly waiting...I finally finished the
veneering, and after 35+ years, they're finally finished.
Pics he
http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth/sp1.html

Metal content: I guess I could run some Heavy Metal through them, or
better, some New Age techno-rock.

Good show!

Don't see too many 15" woofers these days, except in these criminally
negligent fukn boomcars.....
These days, in home systems, a woofer is.... 8"??? WTF??? Started by
Bose, I think.... LOL

But here's sumpn I always wondered:
In a speaker, doesn't the midrange carry most of the "acoustical
content"? Ergo the wattage??

I always thought the speaker enclosure should have multiple midrange
drivers, a la, in fact, the ole Bose 901's.

Are your woofers as good as, say, JBL's?? A 75 oz magnet sounds perty
ossum!

I went on an audio ng, apropos of my disgust with the sound of almost every
home stereo I've heard, wrt old AR3a or KLH or Rectilinear systems, and
axed,
What would you have to pay today to get the equivalent sound of AR3a
speakers..... which in the '70's mighta run $250 for the pair.

Answer: $2,000, minimum.

Goodgawd, and AR3a's back then, were really "basic" bookshelf-type speakers.

Cars are now 50% heavier than they were in the 70's, and are just now
eke'ing up to the mpg's of my ole Datsun 510..... WTF???

We are de-evolving, dats what.

Got a pair of Realistic Mach II 's downstairs- another jewel in the
speaker world.
JR


On Wed, 30 May 2012 18:53:25 -0700, "PrecisionmachinisT"
wrote:


"JR North" wrote in message ...
For those of you beathlessly waiting...I finally finished the
veneering, and after 35+ years, they're finally finished.
Pics he
http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth/sp1.html

Metal content: I guess I could run some Heavy Metal through them, or
better, some New Age techno-rock.
JR
HOME PAGE:
http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth
--------------------------------------------------

Nice work...

I'm still running the EV Sentry IV with 511B's on top

The interlacing of project experiences.
JR


On Wed, 30 May 2012 20:07:19 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Wed, 30 May 2012 17:25:45 -0700, JR North
wrote:

For those of you beathlessly waiting...I finally finished the
veneering, and after 35+ years, they're finally finished.
Pics he
http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth/sp1.html

Metal content: I guess I could run some Heavy Metal through them, or
better, some New Age techno-rock.

My dear Crom! Bondo, stain, and poly? my heart...my heart...

thud

Thanks for the info.
JR

On Thu, 31 May 2012 16:46:31 +0000 (UTC), James Waldby
wrote:

On Wed, 30 May 2012 17:25:45 -0700, JR North wrote:
...
Pics he
http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth/sp1.html
...
http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth

Note, the metalworking dropbox hosting site has changed, so on your
http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth/mw1.html page, links like
http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/_2002_retired_files/welder00.txt
need to be changed to form like
http://www.mwdropbox.com/dropbox/_2002_retired_files/welder00.txt

On Thu, 31 May 2012 16:20:45 -0700, JR North
wrote:

The interlacing of project experiences.

Taken directly from the Worst Practices Manual, no doubt.

--
Stain and Poly Are Their Own Punishment.


On Wed, 30 May 2012 20:07:19 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

My dear Crom! Bondo, stain, and poly? my heart...my heart...

thud

--
Self-development is a higher duty than self-sacrifice.
-- Elizabeth Cady Stanton

"JR North" wrote in message ...
Got a pair of Realistic Mach II 's downstairs- another jewel in the
speaker world.
JR


G


On Wed, 30 May 2012 18:53:25 -0700, "PrecisionmachinisT"
wrote:


"JR North" wrote in message ...
For those of you beathlessly waiting...I finally finished the
veneering, and after 35+ years, they're finally finished.
Pics he
http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth/sp1.html

Metal content: I guess I could run some Heavy Metal through them, or
better, some New Age techno-rock.
JR
HOME PAGE:
http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth
--------------------------------------------------

Nice work...

I'm still running the EV Sentry IV with 511B's on top

That was quick!

i

On 2012-05-31, JR North wrote:
For those of you beathlessly waiting...I finally finished the
veneering, and after 35+ years, they're finally finished.
Pics he
http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth/sp1.html

Metal content: I guess I could run some Heavy Metal through them, or
better, some New Age techno-rock.
JR
HOME PAGE:
http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth
--------------------------------------------------

Huh? From the Minwax Stain can blog:
"Clear Finish Application: After 8 hours drying, complete your project
by applying Minwax Fast-Dry Polyurethane..."
From the veneer instructions:
"We suggest the use of poly-acrylic or polyurethane finishes.."
JR

On Thu, 31 May 2012 17:05:26 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Thu, 31 May 2012 16:20:45 -0700, JR North
wrote:

The interlacing of project experiences.

Taken directly from the Worst Practices Manual, no doubt.

--
Stain and Poly Are Their Own Punishment.


On Wed, 30 May 2012 20:07:19 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

My dear Crom! Bondo, stain, and poly? my heart...my heart...

thud

On Wed, 30 May 2012 17:25:45 -0700, JR North
wrote:

For those of you beathlessly waiting...I finally finished the
veneering, and after 35+ years, they're finally finished.
Pics he
http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth/sp1.html


35 years? I guess it's lucky you aren't working at Piece Work pay
rates.
Dave

wrote in message
...
On Thu, 31 May 2012 06:17:43 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Thu, 31 May 2012 08:46:22 GMT, "Harold & Susan Vordos"
wrote:


"Existential Angst" wrote in message
...
snip---
But here's sumpn I always wondered:
In a speaker, doesn't the midrange carry most of the "acoustical
content"? Ergo the wattage??

Correct. That's why the 375 drivers in my SR8 JBL speakers have a 28
pound
magnet. (They're a horn, not a coned speaker)

Braggart!
JBL = Junky But Loud - from a sound pro friend of mine.

snicker
That's what the usually say when they don't have them and the other guy does
have. And-----they are no longer made, after more than 40 years of
production.

Tell him to eat his heart out. I have two sets of the JBL Olympus C50 with
the S8R system, plus a JBL Paragon. The Paragon has the next generation
speakers, but identical in many ways to the S8 system. Same crossover
networks, for example, but rare earth magnets instead of Alnico. No passive
radiator, but an exponential horn for the 15" woofers.

The only speaker system I'd buy aside from the JBL's would Bozak Concert
Grands. (Yeah, I have the power to run them).

Harold