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On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 11:59:57 -0800, Bible Studies with Satan
wrote: Joe wrote: http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/n...na-nn-whitney- houston-flag-protest-20120220,0,2349928.story Wayne Township, population 54,000, did not lower its flags -- at the request of Mayor Christopher P. Vergano. I's only because they're a bunch of racist whiteys. The racial makeup of the township was 86.07% (47,097) White, 2.28% (1,247) African American, 0.09% (51) Native American, 8.18% (4,478) Asian, 0.02% (11) Pacific Islander, 1.80% (985) from other races, and 1.55% (848) from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 7.92% (4,335) of the population.[ Well, the big issue with Wayne is this: How smart can people be, when their houses are flooded out every year and they keep moving back? d8-) -- Ed Huntress (used to work in Wayne, which is where Wasino machine tools used to be located -- on a hill) |
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On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 14:23:29 -0500, Ed Huntress
wrote: On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 11:59:57 -0800, Bible Studies with Satan wrote: Joe wrote: http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/n...na-nn-whitney- houston-flag-protest-20120220,0,2349928.story Wayne Township, population 54,000, did not lower its flags -- at the request of Mayor Christopher P. Vergano. I's only because they're a bunch of racist whiteys. The racial makeup of the township was 86.07% (47,097) White, 2.28% (1,247) African American, 0.09% (51) Native American, 8.18% (4,478) Asian, 0.02% (11) Pacific Islander, 1.80% (985) from other races, and 1.55% (848) from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 7.92% (4,335) of the population.[ Racism has nothing to do with it - Whitney Houston was a simple Celebrity, and did nothing brave or heroic or even noteworthy to earn the honor. She wasn't a firefighter that routinely ran /into/ burning buildings to rescue people and preserve property, or a Cop who willingly walked into Domestic Disturbances to break up the Husband and Wife (the statistically proven #1 most dangerous thing a cop can do on the job) and going into the middle of robberies to save people and bring criminals to justice, or a Soldier willing to lay down his own life to defend our freedoms. She wasn't the President or a Supreme Court Justice or someone of that high stature, where we honor the office as much as the person when they pass and we lower the flag for a period of mourning. The Order by Governor Christie to lower flags was a foolish and stupid move that has damaged his reputation. He tried to make a symbolic gesture and it backfired miserably. He is free to allow and suggest that it be done (and leave the final decisions to the City or County level officials) but he can't and shouldn't have Ordered it. Well, the big issue with Wayne is this: How smart can people be, when their houses are flooded out every year and they keep moving back? d8-) How does that line go about repeating the same stupid behavior that has never worked before, and expecting a different outcome...? It's like Beachfront Property and FEMA - there are locations where people were NOT Meant to build permanent dwellings. I have a fix for the problem, but it would never go through - there are far too many powerful people who own one of these Hurricane Magnet houses and they like getting the almost free remodels every few years... If a Government Flood Insured house floods or washes away regularly at that location, they should pay to rebuild your house ONCE and only if it's relocated further back from the shore on the property and/or up on a mound or taller pilings to survive the flood. If it washes away or floods again and there's no room for a tall enough mound of dirt to build the house on so it stays, the land title reverts to the Government for parks or beach uses, and that land is never built on again. Any replacement dwellings are built on a new comparable lot on the other side of the highway from the ocean, or 30'' higher up the hill from the river and out of the flood plain. Period. And no compensation for "Loss of view" or easy beach/river access. You knew the land was dangerous when you bought it. If you can buy commercially underwritten property insurance for that land, go ahead and rebuild the house and stay there - but you could never afford the premiums and we both know it. We the people are no longer subsidizing cheap insurance to buy you a new house every few years sited in a stupid location in perpetuity. -- Bruce -- |
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On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:30:22 -0800, "Bruce L. Bergman (munged human
readable)" wrote: On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 14:23:29 -0500, Ed Huntress wrote: On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 11:59:57 -0800, Bible Studies with Satan wrote: Joe wrote: http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/n...na-nn-whitney- houston-flag-protest-20120220,0,2349928.story Wayne Township, population 54,000, did not lower its flags -- at the request of Mayor Christopher P. Vergano. I's only because they're a bunch of racist whiteys. The racial makeup of the township was 86.07% (47,097) White, 2.28% (1,247) African American, 0.09% (51) Native American, 8.18% (4,478) Asian, 0.02% (11) Pacific Islander, 1.80% (985) from other races, and 1.55% (848) from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 7.92% (4,335) of the population.[ Racism has nothing to do with it - Whitney Houston was a simple Celebrity, and did nothing brave or heroic or even noteworthy to earn the honor. She wasn't a firefighter that routinely ran /into/ burning buildings to rescue people and preserve property, or a Cop who willingly walked into Domestic Disturbances to break up the Husband and Wife (the statistically proven #1 most dangerous thing a cop can do on the job) and going into the middle of robberies to save people and bring criminals to justice, or a Soldier willing to lay down his own life to defend our freedoms. Neither were the victims of Hurricane Katrina. She wasn't the President or a Supreme Court Justice or someone of that high stature, where we honor the office as much as the person when they pass and we lower the flag for a period of mourning. Neither were the victims of the Virginia Tech massacre. The Order by Governor Christie to lower flags was a foolish and stupid move that has damaged his reputation. He really doesn't care. Chris Christie is from New Jersey. He would just as soon flip you the bird as care about what you think. He had the flags lowered for Clarence Clemons of the E Street Band a year ago. It's a New Jersey thing. He tried to make a symbolic gesture and it backfired miserably. It was well-regarded in New Jersey. And he's New Jersey's governor. He is free to allow and suggest that it be done (and leave the final decisions to the City or County level officials) but he can't and shouldn't have Ordered it. It's nobody else's business, actually. Well, the big issue with Wayne is this: How smart can people be, when their houses are flooded out every year and they keep moving back? d8-) How does that line go about repeating the same stupid behavior that has never worked before, and expecting a different outcome...? It's like Beachfront Property and FEMA - there are locations where people were NOT Meant to build permanent dwellings. I have a fix for the problem, but it would never go through - there are far too many powerful people who own one of these Hurricane Magnet houses and they like getting the almost free remodels every few years... If a Government Flood Insured house floods or washes away regularly at that location, they should pay to rebuild your house ONCE and only if it's relocated further back from the shore on the property and/or up on a mound or taller pilings to survive the flood. If it washes away or floods again and there's no room for a tall enough mound of dirt to build the house on so it stays, the land title reverts to the Government for parks or beach uses, and that land is never built on again. Any replacement dwellings are built on a new comparable lot on the other side of the highway from the ocean, or 30'' higher up the hill from the river and out of the flood plain. Period. And no compensation for "Loss of view" or easy beach/river access. You knew the land was dangerous when you bought it. If you can buy commercially underwritten property insurance for that land, go ahead and rebuild the house and stay there - but you could never afford the premiums and we both know it. We the people are no longer subsidizing cheap insurance to buy you a new house every few years sited in a stupid location in perpetuity. -- Bruce -- That's what I told my parents when they had their house on a barrier island. d8-) -- Ed Huntress |
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