On 1/12/2012 4:44 PM, Hawke wrote:
On 1/10/2012 12:59 PM, George Plimpton wrote:


I know for a fact that Beck was
targeted by liberal groups that specifically went after his
advertisers.

It didn't work. They were replaced by other sponsors. *Then*, the
viewers began leaving.

You don't know what you claim to know. What you think you know is some
left-wing bull**** you read on some left-wing blog site.


I also happened to watch the show for the entire time it was on the air
and it was clear toward the end that the sponsorship had drastically
changed.

Old sponsors left, new ones replaced them.

Right, the original sponsors bailed because they were getting complaints
about Beck.

Prove it.

That's almost certainly wrong. If it were right, new sponsors wouldn't
have come in to take the place of the old ones.


In the last six months about the only ads you saw on during
Beck's show were for gold sales.

I doubt that.

If you watched the show you would know that Rosalind Capital with
G.Gordon Liddy was on every damn day and so were some other gold sellers.

That's far from supporting your claim that those were "about the only
ads" one saw.


If you had watched the program from the
start you could clearly see a change in the kind of businesses that
advertised with him. So you could see the difference in sponsors and I
also know that sponsors dropped him because of the complaints they
received about him.

You don't know that that's why they dropped him. It's what you want to
believe, but what you believe and what is real seldom intersect.

That's a completely baseless accusation.

It isn't.


I am not the kind to "want" to believe anything.

That is *EXACTLY* the kind you are.


I believe things only when facts prove to me what is true.

That is absolutely false. You believe things if and only if they accord
with your extremist political ideology.


I don't go to any left wing blogs so I wouldn't have
a clue what they say. But I know people were actively trying to get rid
of Beck for a long time and

How can you possibly claim to "know" that?

I heard Beck say it?

So? It's just the kind of thing he /would/ say. He says a lot of ****.
Some of it is right, some of it is just for effect.