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I have the 1996 silverado 350. I have a Haynes repair manual and have
done a few test. The problem was bucking but sometimes the truck would run just fine. I had the ignition module checked at autozone. it tested bad they said and i got a new one. However, the code came back the next day. I did all the checks on the coil with a volt meter. It checked good. The ignition module, coil and crank position sensor all have 11.5-12 volts supply voltage. The ground wire in the harness has continuity to battery ground. Checking the ignition control module harness white wire with a voltmeter on AC mode should yield "approximately"1.0 to 4.0 volts with the engine cranking. It yielded 6.0 volts in my test. it says to check the crankshaft sensor if the voltage is out of range. Backprobing this sensor with a voltmeter on AC should result in "approximately" 5.0 volts. My test resulted in 3.9-4.0. The manual then says: "If a CKP sensor signal is not present, replace the crankshaft position sensor." Well, my voltage was out of the 'approximate" range, but a signal was present. It goes on to say if the ignition control module test and the crankshaft position sensor tests are ok, to have the PCM checked at a dealer. This is my daily driver but the truck has 342,000 miles so I dont want to spend to much at a dealer. Where should I go from here? Replace the crankshaft position sensor? I have read something about there being a "relearn" process that has to be done by a dealer sometimes when replace ing this sensor? Could I still drive it? I really appreciate your help! |
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On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 20:52:05 -0800 (PST), stryped
wrote: I have the 1996 silverado 350. I have a Haynes repair manual and have done a few test. The problem was bucking but sometimes the truck would run just fine. I had the ignition module checked at autozone. it tested bad they said and i got a new one. However, the code came back the next day. I did all the checks on the coil with a volt meter. It checked good. The ignition module, coil and crank position sensor all have 11.5-12 volts supply voltage. The ground wire in the harness has continuity to battery ground. Checking the ignition control module harness white wire with a voltmeter on AC mode should yield "approximately"1.0 to 4.0 volts with the engine cranking. It yielded 6.0 volts in my test. it says to check the crankshaft sensor if the voltage is out of range. Backprobing this sensor with a voltmeter on AC should result in "approximately" 5.0 volts. My test resulted in 3.9-4.0. The manual then says: "If a CKP sensor signal is not present, replace the crankshaft position sensor." Well, my voltage was out of the 'approximate" range, but a signal was present. It goes on to say if the ignition control module test and the crankshaft position sensor tests are ok, to have the PCM checked at a dealer. This is my daily driver but the truck has 342,000 miles so I dont want to spend to much at a dealer. Where should I go from here? Replace the crankshaft position sensor? I have read something about there being a "relearn" process that has to be done by a dealer sometimes when replace ing this sensor? Could I still drive it? I really appreciate your help! Start with basics, how are ther spark plugs? Spark plug wires? A bad plug or wire can cause a coil to arc internally, you will never pick that up with an ohm meter, but the coil will produce a weak spark. Clean the grounds anyway. Bad grounds to all kinds of weird things to computer controls engines. Is the bucking engine cold or warm? speed? raining out? Remove 333 to reply. Randy |
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Think basics. Water in the gas? In my case, the NYS has gone
to gasohol, so we've got 10% drygas in the fuel already. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "stryped" wrote in message ... I have the 1996 silverado 350. I have a Haynes repair manual and have done a few test. The problem was bucking but sometimes the truck would run just fine. I had the ignition module checked at autozone. it tested bad they said and i got a new one. However, the code came back the next day. I did all the checks on the coil with a volt meter. It checked good. The ignition module, coil and crank position sensor all have 11.5-12 volts supply voltage. The ground wire in the harness has continuity to battery ground. Checking the ignition control module harness white wire with a voltmeter on AC mode should yield "approximately"1.0 to 4.0 volts with the engine cranking. It yielded 6.0 volts in my test. it says to check the crankshaft sensor if the voltage is out of range. Backprobing this sensor with a voltmeter on AC should result in "approximately" 5.0 volts. My test resulted in 3.9-4.0. The manual then says: "If a CKP sensor signal is not present, replace the crankshaft position sensor." Well, my voltage was out of the 'approximate" range, but a signal was present. It goes on to say if the ignition control module test and the crankshaft position sensor tests are ok, to have the PCM checked at a dealer. This is my daily driver but the truck has 342,000 miles so I dont want to spend to much at a dealer. Where should I go from here? Replace the crankshaft position sensor? I have read something about there being a "relearn" process that has to be done by a dealer sometimes when replace ing this sensor? Could I still drive it? I really appreciate your help! |
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On 11/24/2011 10:52 PM, stryped wrote:
I have the 1996 silverado 350. ... ... The problem was bucking but sometimes the truck would run just fine. I had the ignition module checked at autozone. it tested bad they said and i got a new one. However, the code came back the next day. What specific code? .... Checking the ignition control module harness white wire with a voltmeter on AC mode should yield "approximately"1.0 to 4.0 volts with the engine cranking. It yielded 6.0 volts in my test. it says to check the crankshaft sensor if the voltage is out of range. Backprobing this sensor with a voltmeter on AC should result in "approximately" 5.0 volts. My test resulted in 3.9-4.0. The manual then says: "If a CKP sensor signal is not present, replace the crankshaft position sensor." Well, my voltage was out of the 'approximate" range, but a signal was present. It goes on to say if the ignition control module test and the crankshaft position sensor tests are ok, to have the PCM checked at a dealer. This is my daily driver but the truck has 342,000 miles so I dont want to spend to much at a dealer. Where should I go from here? Replace the crankshaft position sensor? I have read something about there being a "relearn" process that has to be done by a dealer sometimes when replace ing this sensor? Could I still drive it? Have '98 and '99 -- the '98 had same problem. The PCM was the issue The equivalent of the Windows BSOD test is to read the OBD code. W/ the ignition key in the "II" position read the OBD. A code value of P06xx where xx=one of the values 01 thru 10 is a critical failure of the PCM. If you get one of those it's toast and nothing else will cause joy. I've not done the testing specifically so can't comment on various observed symptoms as compared to the nominal given. The intermittent nature appears to be related to the PCM from my observation; the other sensors basically go and are consistent instead of come-n-go. -- |
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On 11/25/2011 3:59 PM, dpb wrote:
.... Have '98 and '99 -- the '98 had same problem. The PCM was the issue .... I should have said similar _symptoms_; possibly not the same underlying problem. -- |
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