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Saw an interesting news item about waste and corruption in the
payments to "contractors" in Iraq and Afghanistan. The Congress
bipartisan ctte had found that the Army (mainly) had paid out
more than $60 billion in overpayments, corrupt payments and in
a lot of cases plain blood money to contractors. In one instance
they found that protection money a contractor was paying was
being used to buy explosives for road side bombs - effectively
the US tax payer was buying the deaths of US or NATO soldiers.


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Saw an interesting news item about waste and corruption in the
payments to "contractors" in Iraq and Afghanistan. The Congress
bipartisan ctte had found that the Army (mainly) had paid out
more than $60 billion in overpayments, corrupt payments and in
a lot of cases plain blood money to contractors


Define "blood money"?


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Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense
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such a man for their? president.. Blaming the prince of the
fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of
fools that made him their prince".
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On Sat, 3 Sep 2011 04:23:17 +1000, "Why are people so cruel"
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Saw an interesting news item about waste and corruption in the
payments to "contractors" in Iraq and Afghanistan. The Congress
bipartisan ctte had found that the Army (mainly) had paid out
more than $60 billion in overpayments, corrupt payments and in
a lot of cases plain blood money to contractors


Define "blood money"?

Money paid to contractors who had an employee killed/maimed, that money
was supposed to be paid to family of the deceased - but in some cases was
kept by the contractors.


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On Sat, 3 Sep 2011 04:23:17 +1000, "Why are people so cruel"
wrote:

Saw an interesting news item about waste and corruption in the
payments to "contractors" in Iraq and Afghanistan. The Congress
bipartisan ctte had found that the Army (mainly) had paid out
more than $60 billion in overpayments, corrupt payments and in
a lot of cases plain blood money to contractors


Define "blood money"?

Money paid to contractors who had an employee killed/maimed, that money
was supposed to be paid to family of the deceased - but in some cases was
kept by the contractors.


Paid by whom?

Or are you claiming death or dismemberment insurance is "blood money"?


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"The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry
capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency.
It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an
Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense
and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have
such a man for their? president.. Blaming the prince of the
fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of
fools that made him their prince".
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On Sat, 3 Sep 2011 04:23:17 +1000, "Why are people so cruel"
wrote:

Saw an interesting news item about waste and corruption in the
payments to "contractors" in Iraq and Afghanistan. The Congress
bipartisan ctte had found that the Army (mainly) had paid out
more than $60 billion in overpayments, corrupt payments and in
a lot of cases plain blood money to contractors

Define "blood money"?

Money paid to contractors who had an employee killed/maimed, that money
was supposed to be paid to family of the deceased - but in some cases was
kept by the contractors.


Paid by whom?

Or are you claiming death or dismemberment insurance is "blood money"?

I personally am not claiming anything, but the Congress report indicated
that the $60 billion in waste was paid by the (mainly) US Army to its
250,000
contractors. Included in the $60 billion was an element of blood money
that some contractors did not pay to families of the deceased or to the
injured. This was one item amongst a host of others. Other items were things
such as paying for a 50 hour week and only working 10 hours. Paying
for destroyed leased equipment for years after the destruction. Contractors
"self approving" invoices to the Army. Employment agencies invoicing for
non existant recruits.

The one that struck home most was the payment of protection money that
was then used to make IEDs and used against NATO troops - in effect the
US Army was paying to maim and kill its allies and own troops.

The Congressman interviewed was not laying blame, but was stating that they
would be setting up some sort of recovery program against blatantly corrupt
contractors. He stated that the system was wrong, the Army had been stripped
of its contract administrators in the 1990s and the contractors had
exploited that
shortcoming in procedures and approval processes.



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On Sep 2, 1:23*pm, "Why are people so cruel"
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Saw an interesting news item about waste and corruption in the
payments to "contractors" in Iraq and Afghanistan. The Congress
bipartisan ctte had found that the Army (mainly) had paid out
more than $60 billion in overpayments, corrupt payments and in
a lot of cases plain blood money to contractors. In one instance
they found that protection money a contractor was paying was
being used to buy explosives for road side bombs - effectively
the US tax payer was buying the deaths of US or NATO soldiers.


Bush and Cheney should be so proud.

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On Sep 2, 1:23 pm, "Why are people so cruel"
wrote:
Saw an interesting news item about waste and corruption in the
payments to "contractors" in Iraq and Afghanistan. The Congress
bipartisan ctte had found that the Army (mainly) had paid out
more than $60 billion in overpayments, corrupt payments and in
a lot of cases plain blood money to contractors. In one instance
they found that protection money a contractor was paying was
being used to buy explosives for road side bombs - effectively
the US tax payer was buying the deaths of US or NATO soldiers.


Bush and Cheney should be so proud.


.......or have Shares in the big contractors.

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