'Varnish Makers and Painter's' naptha is the only way
I've found for removing baked-on grease from metal surfaces:
http://paint-and-supplies.hardwarest...er-618030.aspx

It's disappeared from the shelves at all the hardware stores in
my area. Some now carry a 'substitute' product in gallon cans,
but I don't want to spend over 20 bucks and then have to drive
it to Hazmat Disposal if it works as well as do most
'substitutes'.

What's a practical alternative? Gasoline?

Thanks!

--Winston

"Winston" wrote in message
...
'Varnish Makers and Painter's' naptha is the only way
I've found for removing baked-on grease from metal surfaces:
http://paint-and-supplies.hardwarest...er-618030.aspx

It's disappeared from the shelves at all the hardware stores in
my area. Some now carry a 'substitute' product in gallon cans,
but I don't want to spend over 20 bucks and then have to drive
it to Hazmat Disposal if it works as well as do most
'substitutes'.

What's a practical alternative? Gasoline?

Thanks!

--Winston

Lighter fluid is (or at least used to be) mainly naptha. Gasoline has
longer chain molecules than naptha, but you could try it.

anorton wrote:

"Winston" wrote in message
...
'Varnish Makers and Painter's' naptha is the only way
I've found for removing baked-on grease from metal surfaces:
http://paint-and-supplies.hardwarest...er-618030.aspx


It's disappeared from the shelves at all the hardware stores in
my area. Some now carry a 'substitute' product in gallon cans,
but I don't want to spend over 20 bucks and then have to drive
it to Hazmat Disposal if it works as well as do most
'substitutes'.

What's a practical alternative? Gasoline?

Thanks!

--Winston

Lighter fluid is (or at least used to be) mainly naptha.
Yeah, that stuff is gone from store shelves as well.

Gasoline has longer chain molecules than naptha, but you
could try it.

OK, Thanks!

--Winston

"Winston" wrote in message
...
anorton wrote:

"Winston" wrote in message
...
'Varnish Makers and Painter's' naptha is the only way
I've found for removing baked-on grease from metal surfaces:
http://paint-and-supplies.hardwarest...er-618030.aspx


It's disappeared from the shelves at all the hardware stores in
my area. Some now carry a 'substitute' product in gallon cans,
but I don't want to spend over 20 bucks and then have to drive
it to Hazmat Disposal if it works as well as do most
'substitutes'.

What's a practical alternative? Gasoline?

Thanks!

--Winston

Lighter fluid is (or at least used to be) mainly naptha.
Yeah, that stuff is gone from store shelves as well.

Gasoline has longer chain molecules than naptha, but you
could try it.



Coleman fuel AKA white gas



--

PrecisionmachinisT wrote:

(...)

Coleman fuel AKA white gas

Forgive my faux pas.

I didn't mention that I wasn't able to locate this stuff
under any of it's synonyms, either.
White Spirit
Coleman Fuel
White Gas (I remember when that was available at the *gas station*.
Etc etc.

Thanks!

--Winston

"Winston" wrote in message
...
PrecisionmachinisT wrote:

(...)

Coleman fuel AKA white gas

Forgive my faux pas.

I didn't mention that I wasn't able to locate this stuff
under any of it's synonyms, either.
White Spirit
Coleman Fuel
White Gas (I remember when that was available at the *gas station*.
Etc etc.

Thanks!

--Winston

I bought some just a few years ago at Home Depot. I'd also try a big paint
store. Have you looked for Coleman Fuel at a chain sporting goods store?
Target has it here.

However, as a solvent, it's pretty close to gasoline.

--
Ed Huntress

Winston wrote:
PrecisionmachinisT wrote:

(...)

Coleman fuel AKA white gas

Forgive my faux pas.

I didn't mention that I wasn't able to locate this stuff
under any of it's synonyms, either.
White Spirit
Coleman Fuel
White Gas (I remember when that was available at the *gas station*.
Etc etc.

"White gas" was just unleaded, which they all have now, but before
I tried gasoline, and if you really really can't find any lighter
fluid, I'd try acetone or MEK (Methyl-ethyl ketone).

Good Luck!
Rich

On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 11:32:40 -0700, Winston
wrote:

PrecisionmachinisT wrote:

(...)

Coleman fuel AKA white gas

Forgive my faux pas.

I didn't mention that I wasn't able to locate this stuff
under any of it's synonyms, either.
White Spirit
Coleman Fuel
White Gas (I remember when that was available at the *gas station*.
Etc etc.

Thanks!

--Winston

You cant find lantern fuel at Walmart????



The current Democratic party has lost its ideological basis for
existence.
- It is NOT fiscally responsible.
- It is NOT ethically honorable.
- It has started wars based on lies.
- It does not support the well-being of americans - only billionaires.
- It has suppresed constitutional guaranteed liberties.
- It has foisted a liar as president upon America.
- It has violated US national sovereignty in trade treaties.
- It has refused to enforce the national borders.

....It no longer has valid reasons to exist.
Lorad474

Winston wrote:

anorton wrote:

"Winston" wrote in message
...
'Varnish Makers and Painter's' naptha is the only way
I've found for removing baked-on grease from metal surfaces:
http://paint-and-supplies.hardwarest...er-618030.aspx


It's disappeared from the shelves at all the hardware stores in
my area. Some now carry a 'substitute' product in gallon cans,
but I don't want to spend over 20 bucks and then have to drive
it to Hazmat Disposal if it works as well as do most
'substitutes'.

What's a practical alternative? Gasoline?

Thanks!

--Winston

Lighter fluid is (or at least used to be) mainly naptha.

Yeah, that stuff is gone from store shelves as well.

Try a tobacco / cigar shop. Zippo lighters are still around and people
still use fuel in them. I know I've seen lighter fluid at both gas
station convenience stores and at the front service / cig desk at
regular grocery stores.

Pete C. wrote:

Winston wrote:

(...)

Yeah, that stuff is gone from store shelves as well.

Try a tobacco / cigar shop. Zippo lighters are still around and people
still use fuel in them. I know I've seen lighter fluid at both gas
station convenience stores and at the front service / cig desk at
regular grocery stores.

I will give that a whirl, but I am pessimistic.

Like you, I used to see cans and cans of this stuff
in it's various names available practically everywhere.
I should have bought several gallons! Fiddle.

--Winston

Winston wrote:
anorton wrote:
"Winston" wrote in message

'Varnish Makers and Painter's' naptha is the only way
I've found for removing baked-on grease from metal surfaces:

http://paint-and-supplies.hardwarest...er-618030.aspx

It's disappeared from the shelves at all the hardware stores in
my area. Some now carry a 'substitute' product in gallon cans,
but I don't want to spend over 20 bucks and then have to drive
it to Hazmat Disposal if it works as well as do most
'substitutes'.

What's a practical alternative? Gasoline?

Lighter fluid is (or at least used to be) mainly naptha.
Yeah, that stuff is gone from store shelves as well.

Try the local tobacconist, if they haven't yet banned tobacco in
your area.

Good Luck!
Rich

anorton wrote:

"Winston" wrote in message
...
'Varnish Makers and Painter's' naptha is the only way
I've found for removing baked-on grease from metal surfaces:
http://paint-and-supplies.hardwarest...er-618030.aspx

It's disappeared from the shelves at all the hardware stores in
my area. Some now carry a 'substitute' product in gallon cans,
but I don't want to spend over 20 bucks and then have to drive
it to Hazmat Disposal if it works as well as do most
'substitutes'.

What's a practical alternative? Gasoline?

Thanks!

--Winston

Lighter fluid is (or at least used to be) mainly naptha. Gasoline has
longer chain molecules than naptha, but you could try it.

Camp stove / lantern fuel might be a viable substitute that would be
better than highway gasoline.

Pete C. wrote:

anorton wrote:

wrote in message
...
'Varnish Makers and Painter's' naptha is the only way
I've found for removing baked-on grease from metal surfaces:
http://paint-and-supplies.hardwarest...er-618030.aspx

It's disappeared from the shelves at all the hardware stores in
my area. Some now carry a 'substitute' product in gallon cans,
but I don't want to spend over 20 bucks and then have to drive
it to Hazmat Disposal if it works as well as do most
'substitutes'.

What's a practical alternative? Gasoline?

Thanks!

--Winston

Lighter fluid is (or at least used to be) mainly naptha. Gasoline has
longer chain molecules than naptha, but you could try it.

Camp stove / lantern fuel might be a viable substitute that would be
better than highway gasoline.

I agree. It's unobtainium here in SF Bay Area.
Thanks!

--Winston

Winston wrote:

Pete C. wrote:

anorton wrote:

wrote in message
...
'Varnish Makers and Painter's' naptha is the only way
I've found for removing baked-on grease from metal surfaces:
http://paint-and-supplies.hardwarest...er-618030.aspx

It's disappeared from the shelves at all the hardware stores in
my area. Some now carry a 'substitute' product in gallon cans,
but I don't want to spend over 20 bucks and then have to drive
it to Hazmat Disposal if it works as well as do most
'substitutes'.

What's a practical alternative? Gasoline?

Thanks!

--Winston

Lighter fluid is (or at least used to be) mainly naptha. Gasoline has
longer chain molecules than naptha, but you could try it.

Camp stove / lantern fuel might be a viable substitute that would be
better than highway gasoline.

I agree. It's unobtainium here in SF Bay Area.
Thanks!

Time to move to the free world...

Pete C. wrote:

Winston wrote:

Pete C. wrote:

(...)

Camp stove / lantern fuel might be a viable substitute that would be
better than highway gasoline.

I agree. It's unobtainium here in SF Bay Area.
Thanks!

Time to move to the free world...

They have *weather* in the free world. (Shudder).



--Winston

Winston wrote:
Pete C. wrote:
anorton wrote:
wrote in message
...
'Varnish Makers and Painter's' naptha is the only way
I've found for removing baked-on grease from metal surfaces:

http://paint-and-supplies.hardwarest...er-618030.aspx

It's disappeared from the shelves at all the hardware stores in
my area. Some now carry a 'substitute' product in gallon cans,
but I don't want to spend over 20 bucks and then have to drive
it to Hazmat Disposal if it works as well as do most
'substitutes'.

What's a practical alternative? Gasoline?

Lighter fluid is (or at least used to be) mainly naptha. Gasoline has
longer chain molecules than naptha, but you could try it.

Camp stove / lantern fuel might be a viable substitute that would be
better than highway gasoline.

I agree. It's unobtainium here in SF Bay Area.
Thanks!

SF Bay? Hey, just contact John Larkin and see if he'd let you use
his vapor degreaser! ;-)

Cheers!
Rich

On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 11:33:43 -0700, Winston
wrote:

Pete C. wrote:

anorton wrote:

wrote in message
...
'Varnish Makers and Painter's' naptha is the only way
I've found for removing baked-on grease from metal surfaces:
http://paint-and-supplies.hardwarest...er-618030.aspx

It's disappeared from the shelves at all the hardware stores in
my area. Some now carry a 'substitute' product in gallon cans,
but I don't want to spend over 20 bucks and then have to drive
it to Hazmat Disposal if it works as well as do most
'substitutes'.

What's a practical alternative? Gasoline?

Thanks!

--Winston

Lighter fluid is (or at least used to be) mainly naptha. Gasoline has
longer chain molecules than naptha, but you could try it.

Camp stove / lantern fuel might be a viable substitute that would be
better than highway gasoline.

I agree. It's unobtainium here in SF Bay Area.

Oh, I forgot. You live in -no VOC- city, don't you?

When I had my smog license in CA, the NOX standards were a lower
number than was obtainable from ambient air on the coast with an
offshore breeze on a GOOD day. Inland, the shrubs doubled that, even
without any vehicular traffic.

Don't you love the CARB and CAL-EPA?

--
Fleas can be taught nearly anything that a Congressman can.
-- Mark Twain

Larry Jaques wrote:
On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 11:33:43 -0700,
wrote:

Pete C. wrote:

anorton wrote:

wrote in message
...
'Varnish Makers and Painter's' naptha is the only way
I've found for removing baked-on grease from metal surfaces:
http://paint-and-supplies.hardwarest...er-618030.aspx

It's disappeared from the shelves at all the hardware stores in
my area. Some now carry a 'substitute' product in gallon cans,
but I don't want to spend over 20 bucks and then have to drive
it to Hazmat Disposal if it works as well as do most
'substitutes'.

What's a practical alternative? Gasoline?

Thanks!

--Winston

Lighter fluid is (or at least used to be) mainly naptha. Gasoline has
longer chain molecules than naptha, but you could try it.

Camp stove / lantern fuel might be a viable substitute that would be
better than highway gasoline.

I agree. It's unobtainium here in SF Bay Area.

Oh, I forgot. You live in -no VOC- city, don't you?

In a couple minutes of Googling, I didn't see citation of any law
regarding VOCs in my area. Wierd.

When I had my smog license in CA, the NOX standards were a lower
number than was obtainable from ambient air on the coast with an
offshore breeze on a GOOD day. Inland, the shrubs doubled that, even
without any vehicular traffic.

Don't you love the CARB and CAL-EPA?

I really like how the air has 'cleaned up' since the '70s, when
it got so bad at times that my eyes would swell shut.

Now we get only occasional stenches from the release of
I.C. processing gasses. It's much better, overall.

I guess I shouldn't moan too loudly.

Oh Well!

--Winston

Winston wrote:
here in SF Bay Area.
Thanks!

--Winston

Right there is your basic problem. :-)
...lew...

Lewis Hartswick wrote:
Winston wrote:
here in SF Bay Area.
Thanks!

--Winston

Right there is your basic problem. :-)
...lew...

Today again, we had no weather.
That made chores very easy indeed.



--Winston

On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 19:39:44 -0600, Lewis Hartswick
wrote:

Winston wrote:
here in SF Bay Area.
Thanks!

--Winston

Right there is your basic problem. :-)

That's right. He was bent over and Californicated by the majority,
tree-huggin', ecoterrorist Dems.

--
Never underestimate the innate animosity of inanimate objects.
--anon

Winston wrote:
Pete C. wrote:
Camp stove / lantern fuel might be a viable substitute that would be
better than highway gasoline.

I agree. It's unobtainium here in SF Bay Area.
Thanks!

Try REI, they sell white gas for backpacking stoves.

http://www.rei.com/search?query=white+gas

Jon

Jon Danniken wrote:
Winston wrote:
Pete C. wrote:
Camp stove / lantern fuel might be a viable substitute that would be
better than highway gasoline.

I agree. It's unobtainium here in SF Bay Area.
Thanks!

Try REI, they sell white gas for backpacking stoves.

http://www.rei.com/search?query=white+gas

Thanks Jon!

Store about 10 miles away claims to still stock it.

Nothing in the two stores near me though.

Much appreciated.

--Winston

On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 11:48:16 -0500, "Pete C."
wrote:


anorton wrote:

"Winston" wrote in message
...
'Varnish Makers and Painter's' naptha is the only way
I've found for removing baked-on grease from metal surfaces:
http://paint-and-supplies.hardwarest...er-618030.aspx

It's disappeared from the shelves at all the hardware stores in
my area. Some now carry a 'substitute' product in gallon cans,
but I don't want to spend over 20 bucks and then have to drive
it to Hazmat Disposal if it works as well as do most
'substitutes'.

What's a practical alternative? Gasoline?

Thanks!

--Winston

Lighter fluid is (or at least used to be) mainly naptha. Gasoline has
longer chain molecules than naptha, but you could try it.

Camp stove / lantern fuel might be a viable substitute that would be
better than highway gasoline.

Coleman fuel is high quality naptha..just a heads up.


The current Democratic party has lost its ideological basis for
existence.
- It is NOT fiscally responsible.
- It is NOT ethically honorable.
- It has started wars based on lies.
- It does not support the well-being of americans - only billionaires.
- It has suppresed constitutional guaranteed liberties.
- It has foisted a liar as president upon America.
- It has violated US national sovereignty in trade treaties.
- It has refused to enforce the national borders.

....It no longer has valid reasons to exist.
Lorad474

Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 11:48:16 -0500, "Pete
wrote:

(...)

Camp stove / lantern fuel might be a viable substitute that would be
better than highway gasoline.

Coleman fuel is high quality naptha..just a heads up.

Yup.

'Can't buy it for love nor money, though.

--Winston

Winston wrote:

'Varnish Makers and Painter's' naptha is the only way
I've found for removing baked-on grease from metal surfaces:
http://paint-and-supplies.hardwarest...er-618030.aspx

It's disappeared from the shelves at all the hardware stores in
my area. Some now carry a 'substitute' product in gallon cans,
but I don't want to spend over 20 bucks and then have to drive
it to Hazmat Disposal if it works as well as do most
'substitutes'.

What's a practical alternative? Gasoline?

Thanks!

--Winston

I've never had a problem removing such grease with "purple" industrial
degreaser.

"Pete C." wrote in message
ster.com...

Winston wrote:

'Varnish Makers and Painter's' naptha is the only way
I've found for removing baked-on grease from metal surfaces:
http://paint-and-supplies.hardwarest...er-618030.aspx

It's disappeared from the shelves at all the hardware stores in
my area. Some now carry a 'substitute' product in gallon cans,
but I don't want to spend over 20 bucks and then have to drive
it to Hazmat Disposal if it works as well as do most
'substitutes'.

What's a practical alternative? Gasoline?

Thanks!

--Winston

I've never had a problem removing such grease with "purple" industrial
degreaser.

Hydroxide based spray oven cleaners work quite well on stainless.

And yet another source for small quantities of naptha is ronson lighter
fluid.

--

PrecisionmachinisT wrote:

(...)

Hydroxide based spray oven cleaners work quite well on stainless.
Hmmm. That is a thought. Thanks!

And yet another source for small quantities of naptha is ronson lighter
fluid.

Yup. I see that 'naptha' as such and 'as re-labeled' is still available
in other parts of the country. I don't want to pay shipping, hazmat
fee, special transport permit....etc.

--Winston

Pete C. wrote:

Winston wrote:

'Varnish Makers and Painter's' naptha is the only way
I've found for removing baked-on grease from metal surfaces:
http://paint-and-supplies.hardwarest...er-618030.aspx

It's disappeared from the shelves at all the hardware stores in
my area. Some now carry a 'substitute' product in gallon cans,
but I don't want to spend over 20 bucks and then have to drive
it to Hazmat Disposal if it works as well as do most
'substitutes'.

What's a practical alternative? Gasoline?

Thanks!

--Winston

I've never had a problem removing such grease with "purple" industrial
degreaser.

Normal grease is easy. A little alcohol or paint thinner and
it comes right up. A few applications of commodity spray
cleaner gets it, too.

Grease that been baked on is pretty much immune to alcohol or
paint thinner or any of the degreasing cleaners I've tried.
Anything short of naptha or a wire brush gets
laughed off. I figure it's a chemical thing.

Thanks!

--Winston

Winston wrote:

Pete C. wrote:

Winston wrote:

'Varnish Makers and Painter's' naptha is the only way
I've found for removing baked-on grease from metal surfaces:
http://paint-and-supplies.hardwarest...er-618030.aspx

It's disappeared from the shelves at all the hardware stores in
my area. Some now carry a 'substitute' product in gallon cans,
but I don't want to spend over 20 bucks and then have to drive
it to Hazmat Disposal if it works as well as do most
'substitutes'.

What's a practical alternative? Gasoline?

Thanks!

--Winston

I've never had a problem removing such grease with "purple" industrial
degreaser.

Normal grease is easy. A little alcohol or paint thinner and
it comes right up. A few applications of commodity spray
cleaner gets it, too.

Grease that been baked on is pretty much immune to alcohol or
paint thinner or any of the degreasing cleaners I've tried.
Anything short of naptha or a wire brush gets
laughed off. I figure it's a chemical thing.

I've used the purple degreaser to remove years of grease buildup from a
Hobart mixer, and buildup on baking sheets and waffle irons. The purple
stuff is lye based and will dissolve bodies if the need arises.

Pete C. wrote:

(....)

I've used the purple degreaser to remove years of grease buildup from a
Hobart mixer, and buildup on baking sheets and waffle irons. The purple
stuff is lye based and will dissolve bodies if the need arises.

That is the best recommendation I've ever seen!

OK, Purple cleaner and Oven cleaner are next to try.

Thanks!

--Winston

I'd be thinking kerosene, instead of gasoline. Kero
evaporates more slowly, and much less flammable. Sorry you
aren't finding naptha as camp stove fuel. I'd be tempted to
buy a gallon of camp stove fuel and try it out, as
degreaser. Might be just relabelled.

Purple degreaser can be found at HVAC / R supply houses,
under brand names like Alkli Foam, or Nu Brite. Hydroxide
and some soap. Usual precautions, gloves, safety goggles,
etc. If it gets on skin, it turns oil to soap, makes the
skin slippery. A splash of diluted vinegar makes your skin
feel normal again.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Winston" wrote in message
...
Pete C. wrote:

(....)

I've used the purple degreaser to remove years of grease
buildup from a
Hobart mixer, and buildup on baking sheets and waffle
irons. The purple
stuff is lye based and will dissolve bodies if the need
arises.

That is the best recommendation I've ever seen!

OK, Purple cleaner and Oven cleaner are next to try.

Thanks!

--Winston

On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 09:28:30 -0700, Winston
wrote:

'Varnish Makers and Painter's' naptha is the only way
I've found for removing baked-on grease from metal surfaces:
http://paint-and-supplies.hardwarest...er-618030.aspx

It's disappeared from the shelves at all the hardware stores in
my area. Some now carry a 'substitute' product in gallon cans,
but I don't want to spend over 20 bucks and then have to drive
it to Hazmat Disposal if it works as well as do most
'substitutes'.

What's a practical alternative? Gasoline?

Thanks!

--Winston

Is there a Rockler's near you?
http://www.amazon.com/Rockler-VM-P-N.../dp/B001G9TGQI

Don Foreman wrote:

(...)

Is there a Rockler's near you?
http://www.amazon.com/Rockler-VM-P-N.../dp/B001G9TGQI

Holy Crap! 58 dollarettes a gallon!

Ahem. Sorry Don.

I see the nearest Rockler's is a 110 mile round trip.
I am playing in the wrong corner again.

Thanks!

--Winston

Winston wrote:
'Varnish Makers and Painter's' naptha is the only way
I've found for removing baked-on grease from metal surfaces:
....

If it's not aluminum, _real_ oven cleaner (e.g., E-Z Off (sp?)) works
great. It's lye, so that's why it's not to be used on aluminum.
Likewise, when used on a cook top, over spray needs to be wiped up
immediately (it removes paint, too).

Bob

Bob Engelhardt wrote:
Winston wrote:
'Varnish Makers and Painter's' naptha is the only way
I've found for removing baked-on grease from metal surfaces:
...

If it's not aluminum, _real_ oven cleaner (e.g., E-Z Off (sp?)) works
great. It's lye, so that's why it's not to be used on aluminum.
Likewise, when used on a cook top, over spray needs to be wiped up
immediately (it removes paint, too).


Thanks, Bob.

I will give that a try.

--Winston

Bob Engelhardt wrote:
Winston wrote:
'Varnish Makers and Painter's' naptha is the only way
I've found for removing baked-on grease from metal surfaces:

If it's not aluminum, _real_ oven cleaner (e.g., E-Z Off (sp?)) works
great. It's lye, so that's why it's not to be used on aluminum.
Likewise, when used on a cook top, over spray needs to be wiped up
immediately (it removes paint, too).

I once heard about a guy who washed his lawnmower with Tide (laundry
detergent) and all the paint fell off. ;-)

Cheers!
Rich

On Jun 8, 10:28*am, Winston wrote:
'Varnish Makers and Painter's' naptha is the only way
I've found for removing baked-on grease from metal surfaces:http://paint-and-supplies.hardwarest...t-thinners/vm-...

It's disappeared from the shelves at all the hardware stores in
my area. *Some now carry a 'substitute' product in gallon cans,
but I don't want to spend over 20 bucks and then have to drive
it to Hazmat Disposal if it works as well as do most
'substitutes'.

What's a practical alternative? *Gasoline?

Thanks!

--Winston

At a guess, you're in CA and CARB has struck yet again at the VOC
chimera. Gasoline isn't a substitute for paint prep, even the
leadless stuff you get these days has additives. Also a lot more
hazardous to use as a solvent. In other, less controlled areas of the
country, V.M. & P. naptha is on the hardware store shelves, although
not as cheap as it used to be before the present oil-supply
manipulations. If there are any left out there, you might see what
the body shop suppliers sell for paint prep. Probably water-based,
but it might do a job of degreasing. For cooking greases, lye-based
cleaners work, assuming no aluminum in the area. I get dollar store
oven cleaner to clean off the stainless parts of the grill. Just need
to let it set more the longer the stuff has been cooked on. For wheel
bearing grease and the like, it's already soap, lye won't do much for
that and you'll need some kind of solvent. Finding one in CA that
CARB hasn't banned will be the trick.

Stan

wrote:
On Jun 8, 10:28 am, wrote:
'Varnish Makers and Painter's' naptha is the only way
I've found for removing baked-on grease from metal surfaces:http://paint-and-supplies.hardwarest...t-thinners/vm-...

It's disappeared from the shelves at all the hardware stores in
my area. Some now carry a 'substitute' product in gallon cans,
but I don't want to spend over 20 bucks and then have to drive
it to Hazmat Disposal if it works as well as do most
'substitutes'.

What's a practical alternative? Gasoline?

Thanks!

--Winston

At a guess, you're in CA and CARB has struck yet again at the VOC
chimera. Gasoline isn't a substitute for paint prep, even the
leadless stuff you get these days has additives. Also a lot more
hazardous to use as a solvent.

Used to watch my father clean carburetor parts in straight
gasoline with a lit cigarette dangling from his mouth.

Amazing.

In other, less controlled areas of the
country, V.M.& P. naptha is on the hardware store shelves, although
not as cheap as it used to be before the present oil-supply
manipulations. If there are any left out there, you might see what
the body shop suppliers sell for paint prep. Probably water-based,
but it might do a job of degreasing. For cooking greases, lye-based
cleaners work, assuming no aluminum in the area. I get dollar store
oven cleaner to clean off the stainless parts of the grill. Just need
to let it set more the longer the stuff has been cooked on. For wheel
bearing grease and the like, it's already soap, lye won't do much for
that and you'll need some kind of solvent. Finding one in CA that
CARB hasn't banned will be the trick.

Indeed. Thanks, Stan.

--Winston

Winston wrote:

'Varnish Makers and Painter's' naptha is the only way
I've found for removing baked-on grease from metal surfaces:

http://paint-and-supplies.hardwarest...er-618030.aspx

It's disappeared from the shelves at all the hardware stores in
my area. Some now carry a 'substitute' product in gallon cans,
but I don't want to spend over 20 bucks and then have to drive
it to Hazmat Disposal if it works as well as do most
'substitutes'.

What's a practical alternative? Gasoline?

Ronsonol or Zippo lighter fluid. It's almost pure naphtha - it will
even get gum out of hair.

Cheers!
Rich