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Fukushima nuclear plant up close from chopper
Kind of a shaky video, but a few times through and you will begin to
get a feel for just how extensive the damage there is. In reactor number three, you can see massive amounts of exposed rebar, indicating the concrete was blown right off the reinforcement rods of the containment vessel. Steam is coming from what appears, to me, to be the hole left where the containment cap blew off. It's kind of hard to make out clearly in this video. I believe the reactor vessel itself is exposed. If it wasn't, the recent videos of helicopters flying loads of seawater to dump on it would make no sense. They are dumping it right on the exposed reactor vessel and into what is left of the primary containment. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d9d_1300379014 There is another version of this video on LL too. More shaky then this one, but close to the end they film what appear to be spent fuel rods scattered all over the ground, said rods probably having been ejected from the cooling pools above reactor 3. This is an accident that now is much worse then even Chernobyl. A major portion of the Japanese mainland has been rendered uninhabitable for the next 20,000 years of so. Dave |
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I'm more pussy than the French!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4713398.stm
France has been Europe's most enthusiastic devotee of nuclear power, constructing dozens of reactors since the 1970s oil crises spurred on its desire for energy independence. It has become the world's biggest net exporter of electricity, and is also a major exporter of nuclear technology. In 2006, the government also announced the start of the design process for a prototype fourth-generation, sodium-cooled fast reactor, with the aim of having the technology ready for industrial deployment and export after 2035-40. Aren't the French afraid of nuclear proliferation? They are over there near the terrorists. HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE MORE PUSSY THAN THE FRENCH?! http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=5369610 France has 58 nuclear plants like this which meet 80 percent of its total electricity needs - and allow it to export power to Britain, Germany and Italy. France began beefing up its civil nuclear program after the 1974 oil crisis. http://www.ieer.org/ensec/no-1/glbnrg.html France Nuclear as Percentage of Gross Electricity Generation 78% Global Electricity Generation - by Type FOSSIL FUEL, HYDRO, NUCLEAR 35366, 67894, 368188 http://www.umich.edu/~gs265/society/nuclear.htm In France for example, from 1980 to 1986, SO2 and NOX emissions in the electric power sector were reduced by 71% and 60% respectively, causing reductions of 56% and 9% respectively, in total SO2 and NOX emissions in France (Trudeau 160). In the 1980s, total pollution from the French electric power system dropped by 80-90 percent. http://www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/nuclear...n/gensum2.html More charts. http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/inf40.html France derives over 75% of its electricity from nuclear energy. This is due to a long-standing policy based on energy security. France is the world's largest net exporter of electricity due to its very low cost of generation, and gains over EUR 3 billion per year from this. France has been very active in developing nuclear technology. Reactors and fuel products and services are a major export. It is building its first Generation III reactor and planning a second. About 17% of France's electricity is from recycled nuclear fuel. Nuclear power is the most important technology in the foreseeable future. Learning about nuclear power by using it is the best way to learn how to handle it and to cope with the related issues. The countries that have the balls to master nuclear power will own the pussies who don't. dav1936531 is.invalid wrote: Path: news.astraweb.com!border6.newsrouter.astraweb.com! news-out.readnews.com!transit3.readnews.com!news.nosign al.org!cs.uu.nl!weretis.net!feeder5.news.weretis.n et!news.solani.org!not-for-mail From: dav1936531 is.invalid Newsgroups: rec.crafts.metalworking Subject: Fukushima nuclear plant up close from chopper Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 20:03:05 -0400 Organization: solani.org Lines: 24 Message-ID: qg75o6lsn0kv7er8gucsmv3qc05muilfmq 4ax.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: solani.org 1300406587 3470 eJwNx9EVADEEBMCWQrCUI/vov4S7+Ru/IUFYeJiv7xSaXRRmjfwZPrSmtkINfuKN7fIk71TLBy4mEZk= (18 Mar 2011 00:03:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse news.solani.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 00:03:07 +0000 (UTC) X-User-ID: eJwNykkRwAAIBDBLnAvIaWHWv4Q276RDsRVIRDL5RtySMniVkV 5FarV1z7bBdl0oi3yO/4DM7aofMGpa9QFXhRVD X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 3.1/32.783 Cancel-Lock: sha1:lsbiCTfis8UaFwdf93uoJxCD6XI= X-NNTP-Posting-Host: eJwNzAkBAzEMAzBKeZzn4KRpzR/CJgAKT80tZCSCQTlp08OvtAvW+x6uH0pImmHkgziFzZi+knVbh g+omOoZ0VXGaz9VVFsU9D/FVT2V3PXsCV8dD5D+A2+PIe4= Kind of a shaky video, but a few times through and you will begin to get a feel for just how extensive the damage there is. In reactor number three, you can see massive amounts of exposed rebar, indicating the concrete was blown right off the reinforcement rods of the containment vessel. Steam is coming from what appears, to me, to be the hole left where the containment cap blew off. It's kind of hard to make out clearly in this video. I believe the reactor vessel itself is exposed. If it wasn't, the recent videos of helicopters flying loads of seawater to dump on it would make no sense. They are dumping it right on the exposed reactor vessel and into what is left of the primary containment. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d9d_1300379014 There is another version of this video on LL too. More shaky then this one, but close to the end they film what appear to be spent fuel rods scattered all over the ground, said rods probably having been ejected from the cooling pools above reactor 3. This is an accident that now is much worse then even Chernobyl. A major portion of the Japanese mainland has been rendered uninhabitable for the next 20,000 years of so. Dave |
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the best way to learn
John Doe wrote:
Learning about nuclear power by using it is the best way to learn how to handle it and to cope with the related issues. Japanese are very fortunate to have this learning experience, eh? dav1936531 is.invalid wrote: Kind of a shaky video, but a few times through and you will begin to get a feel for just how extensive the damage there is. In reactor number three, you can see massive amounts of exposed rebar, indicating the concrete was blown right off the reinforcement rods of the containment vessel. Steam is coming from what appears, to me, to be the hole left where the containment cap blew off. It's kind of hard to make out clearly in this video. I believe the reactor vessel itself is exposed. If it wasn't, the recent videos of helicopters flying loads of seawater to dump on it would make no sense. They are dumping it right on the exposed reactor vessel and into what is left of the primary containment. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d9d_1300379014 There is another version of this video on LL too. More shaky then this one, but close to the end they film what appear to be spent fuel rods scattered all over the ground, said rods probably having been ejected from the cooling pools above reactor 3. This is an accident that now is much worse then even Chernobyl. A major portion of the Japanese mainland has been rendered uninhabitable for the next 20,000 years of so. |
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the best way to learn
John Doe wrote:
Beryl fourl rd.net wrote: John Doe wrote: Learning about nuclear power by using it is the best way to learn how to handle it and to cope with the related issues. Japanese are very fortunate to have this learning experience, eh? You don't give a **** about the Japanese. So you're shaking your head No? |
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