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SPAM the Spooks! The FBI, CIA and NSA have an
electronic spy system called "Carnivore" and
"Eschelon". This system (computer and software)
monitors all network traffic (Yours!) and
analyzes it for key words. If it finds a
suspicious message (e-mail, chat message,
etc.), it stores it for later retrieval for
law enforcement. This system ignores the Fourth
Amendment's proscription of unreasonable searches.
Americans were horrified a year ago when it was
announced that Russia's law enforcement required
all internet traffic to be forwarded to state
computers. Now our law enforcement is doing it
to us.
Talkwire believes that the existence of Carnivore
and Eschelon are a threat to personal privacy and
security, despite the empty assurances of the
government. Law enforcement has been given too
much latitude in searches and seizures, and
Carnivore is just a step along the way. We must
work to reverse this trend of government's intrusion
into our private lives. For more information visit
www.stopcarnivore.org
In the meantime, you can Spam the Spooks. The list
below contains many of the keywords the Government
Spooks search YOUR email and chat for. If everyone
attaches some or all of the keywords below to all of
their emails, Carnivore and Eschelon will be flooded
with so much Spam they will not be able to read it
all. Put the Carnivore and Eschelon computers to
work, You paid for them!!
The List - of Carnivore and Eschelon keywords
Explosives, guns, assassination, conspiracy,
primers, detonators, initiators, main charge,
nuclear charges, ambush, sniping, motorcade, IRS,
BATF, jtf-6, mjtf, hrt, srt, hostages, munitions,
weapons, TNT, rdx, amfo, hmtd, picric acid, silver
nitrite, mercury fulminate, presidential motorcade,
salt peter, charcoal, sulfur, c4, composition b,
amatol, petn, lead azide, lead styphante, ddnp,
tetryl, nitrocellulose, nitrostarch, mines,
grenades, rockets, fuses, delay mechanism,
mortars, rpg7, propellants, incendiaries,
incendiary device, thermite, security forces,
intelligence, agencies, hrt, resistance, psyops,
infiltration, assault team, defensive elements,
evasion, detection, mission, communications, the
football, platter charge, shaped charges, m118,
claymore, body armor, charges, shrapnel, timers,
timing devices, boobytraps, detcord, pmk 40,
silencers, Uzi, HK-MP5, AK-47, FAL, Jatti,
Skorpion MP, teflon bullets, cordite, napalm,
law, Stingers, RPK, SOCIMI 821 SMG, STEN, BAR,
MP40, HK-G3,FN-MAG, RPD,PzB39, Air Force One, M60,
RPK74, SG530, SG540, Galil arm, Walther WA2000,
HK33KE, Parker-Hale MOD. 82, AKR, Ingram MAC10,
M3, L34A1, Walther MPL, AKS-74, HK-GR6, subsonic
rounds, ballistic media, special forces, JFKSWC,
SFOD-D, SRT, Rewson, SAFE, Waihopai, INFOSEC,
ASPIC, Information Security, SAI, Information
Warfare, IW, IS, Privacy, Information Terrorism,
Kenya, Terrorism Defensive Information, Defense
Information Warfare, Offensive Information,
Offensive Information Warfare, NAIA, SAPM, ASU,
ECHELON ASTS, National Information Infrastructure,
InfoSec, SAO, Reno, Compsec, JICS, Computer
Terrorism, Firewalls, Secure Internet Connections,
RSP, ISS, JDF, Passwords, NAAP, DefCon V, RSO,
Hackers, Encryption, ASWS, Espionage, USDOJ, NSA,
CIA, S/Key, SSL, FBI, Secret Service, USSS,
Defcon, Military, White House, Undercover, NCCS,
Mayfly, PGP, SALDV, PEM, resta, RSA, Perl-RSA,
MSNBC, bet, AOL, AOL TOS, CIS, CBOT, AIMSX,
STARLAN, 3B2, BITNET, Tanzania, SAMU, COSMOS,
DATTA, E911, FCIC, HTCIA, IACIS, UT/RUS, JANET,
ram, JICC, ReMOB, LEETAC, UTU, VNET, BRLO, SADCC,
NSLEP, SACLANTCEN, FALN, 877, NAVELEXSYSSECENGCEN,
BZ, CANSLO, CBNRC, CIDA, JAVA, rsta, Awarehouse,
Active X, Compsec 97, RENS, LLC, DERA, JIC, rip,
rb, Wu, RDI, Mavricks, BIOL, Meta-hackers, ^?,
SADT, Steve Case, Tools, RECCEX, Telex, OTAN,
monarchist, NMIC, NIOG, IDB, MID/KL, NADIS, NMI,
SEIDM, BNC, CNCIS, STEEPLEBUSH, RG, BSS, DDIS,
mixmaster, BCCI, BRGE, SARL, Military Intelligence,
JICA, Scully, recondo, Flame, Infowar, Bubba,
Freeh, Donaldson, Archives, ISADC, CISSP, Sundevil,
jack, Investigation, JOTS, ISACA, NCSA, ASVC, spook
words, RRF, 1071, Bugs Bunny, Verisign, Secure,
ASIO, Lebed, ICE, NRO, Lexis-Nexis, NSCT, SCIF,
FLiR, JIC, bce, Lacrosse, Bunker, Flashbangs,
HRT, IRA, EODG, DIA, USCOI, CID, BOP, FINCEN,
FLETC, NIJ, ACC, AFSPC, BMDO, site, SASSTIXS,
NAVWAN, NRL, RL, NAVWCWPNS, NSWC, USAFA, AHPCRC,
ARPA, SARD, LABLINK, USACIL, SAPT, USCG, NRC, ~,
O, NSA/CSS, CDC, DOE, SAAM, FMS, HPCC, NTIS, SEL,
USCODE, CISE, SIRC, CIM, ISN, DJC, bemd, SGC,
UNCPCJ, CFC, SABENA, DREO, CDA, SADRS, DRA,
SHAPE, bird dog, SACLANT, BECCA, DCJFTF, HALO, SC,
TA SAS, Lander, GSM, T Branch, AST, SAMCOMM, HAHO,
FKS, 868, GCHQ, DITSA, SORT, AMEMB, NSG, HIC, EDI,
benelux, SAS, SBS, SAW, UDT, EODC, GOE, DOE, SAMF,
GEO, JRB, 3P-HV, Masuda, Forte, AT, GIGN, Exon
Shell, radint, MB, CQB, CONUS, CTU, RCMP, GRU,
SASR, GSG-9, 22nd SAS, GEOS, EADA, SART, BBE,
STEP, Echelon, Dictionary, MD2, MD4, MDA, diwn,
747, ASIC, 777, RDI, 767, MI5, 737, MI6, 757,
Kh-11, EODN, SHS, ^X, Shayet-13, SADMS, Spetznaz,
Recce, 707, CIO, NOCS, Halcon, NSS, Duress, RAID,
Uziel, wojo, Psyops, SASCOM, grom, NSIRL, D-11,
SERT, VIP, ARC, S.E.T. Team, NSWG, MP5k, SATKA,
DREC, DEVGRP, DF, DSD, FDM, GRU, LRTS, SIGDEV,
NACSI, MEU/SOC,PSAC, PTT, RFI, ZL31, SIGDASYS, TDM,
SUKLO, SUSLO, TELINT, fake, TEXTA, ELF, LF, MF,
SIGS, VHF, Recon, peapod, PA598D28, Spall, dort,
50MZ, 11Emc Choe, SATCOMA, UHF, SHF, ASIO, SASP,
WANK, Colonel, domestic disruption, 5ESS, smuggle,
Z-200, 15kg, DUVDEVAN, RFX, nitrate, OIR, Pretoria,
M-14, enigma, Bletchley Park, Clandestine, NSO,
nkvd, argus, afsatcom, CQB, NVD, Counter Terrorism
Security, SARA, Rapid Reaction, JSOFC3IP, Corporate
Security, Police, sniper, PPS, ASIS, ASLET, TSCM,
Security Consulting, M-x spook, Z-150T, High
Security, Security Evaluation, Electronic
Surveillance, MI-17, ISR, NSAS, Counterterrorism,
real, spies, IWO, eavesdropping, debugging, CCSS,
interception, COCOT, NACSI, rhost, rhosts, ASO,
SETA, Amherst, Broadside, Capricorn, NAVCM, Gamma,
Gorizont, Guppy, NSS, rita, ISSO, submiss, ASDIC,
..tc, 2EME REP, FID, 7NL SBS, tekka, captain, 226,
..45, nonac, .li, Ionosphere, Mole, Keyhole, NABS,
Kilderkin, Artichoke, Badger, Emerson, Tzvrif,
SDIS, T2S2, STTC, DNR, NADDIS, NFLIS, CFD, quarter,
Cornflower, Daisy, Egret, Iris, JSOTF, Hollyhock,
Jasmine, Juile, Vinnell, B.D.M., Sphinx, Stephanie,
Reflection, Spoke, Talent, Trump, FX, FXR, IMF,
POCSAG, rusers, Covert Video, Intiso, r00t, lock
picking, Beyond Hope, LASINT, csystems, .tm, passwd,
2600 Magazine, JUWTF, Competitor, EO, Chan,
Pathfinders, SEAL Team 3, JTF, Nash, ISSAA, B61-11,
Alouette, executive, Event Security, Mace, Cap-Stun,
stakeout, ninja, ASIS, ISA, EOD, Oscor, Merlin,
NTT, SL-1, Rolm, TIE, Tie-fighter, PBX, SLI, NTT,
MSCJ, MIT, 69, RIT, Time, MSEE, Cable & Wireless,
CSE, SUW, J2, Embassy, ETA, Fax, finks, Fax
encryption, white noise, Fernspah, MYK, GAFE,
forcast, import, rain, tiger, buzzer, N9, pink
noise, CRA, M.P.R.I., top secret, Mossberg, 50BMG,
Macintosh Security, Macintosh Internet Security,
OC3, Macintosh Firewalls, Unix Security, VIP
Protection, SIG, sweep, Medco, TRD, TDR, Z, sweeping,
SURSAT, 5926, TELINT, Audiotel, Harvard, 1080H, SWS,
Asset, Satellite imagery, force, NAIAG, Cypherpunks,
NARF, 127, Coderpunks, TRW, remailers, replay,
redheads, RX-7, explicit, FLAME, JTF-6, AVN, ISSSP,
Anonymous, W, Sex, chaining, codes, Nuclear, 20,
subversives, SLIP, toad, fish, data havens, unix,
c, a, b, d, SUBACS, the, Elvis, quiche, DES, 1*,
NATIA, NATOA, sneakers, UXO, (), OC-12,
counterintelligence, Shaldag, sport, NASA, TWA,
DT, gtegsc, owhere, .ch, hope, emc, industrial
espionage, SUPIR, PI, TSCI, spookwords, industrial
intelligence, H.N.P., SUAEWICS, Juiliett Class
Submarine, Locks, qrss, loch, 64 Vauxhall Cross,
Ingram Mac-10, wwics, sigvoice, ssa, E.O.D.,
SEMTEX, penrep, racal, OTP, OSS, Siemens, RPC,
Met, CIA-DST, INI, watchers, keebler, contacts,
Blowpipe, BTM, CCS, GSA, Kilo Class, squib,
primacord, RSP, Z7, Becker, Nerd, fangs, Austin,
no|d, Comirex, GPMG, Speakeasy, humint, GEODSS,
SORO, M5, BROMURE, ANC, zone, SBI, DSS, S.A.I.C.,
Minox, Keyhole, SAR, Rand Corporation, Starr,
Wackenhutt, EO, burhop, Wackendude, mol, Shelton,
2E781, F-22, 2010, JCET, cocaine, Vale, IG, Kosovo,
Dake, 36,800, Hillal, Pesec, Hindawi, GGL, NAICC,
CTU, botux, Virii, CCC, ISPE, CCSC, Scud, SecDef,
Magdeyev, VOA, Kosiura, Small Pox, Tajik, +=,
Blacklisted 411, TRDL, Internet Underground, BX,
XS4ALL, wetsu, muezzin, Retinal Fetish, WIR,
Fetish, FCA, Yobie, forschung, emm, ANZUS, Reprieve,
NZC-332, edition, cards, mania, 701, CTP, CATO,
Phon-e, Chicago Posse, NSDM, l0ck, spook, keywords,
QRR, PLA, TDYC, W3, CUD, CdC, Weekly World News,
Zen, World Domination, Dead, GRU, M72750, Salsa, 7,
Blowfish, Gorelick, Glock, Ft. Meade, NSWT, press-
release, WISDIM, burned, Indigo, wire transfer,
e-cash, Bubba the Love Sponge, Enforcers, Digicash,
zip, SWAT, Ortega, PPP, NACSE, crypto-anarchy,
AT&T, SGI, SUN, MCI, Blacknet, SM, JCE, Middleman,
KLM, Blackbird, NSV, GQ360, X400, Texas, jihad,
SDI, BRIGAND, Uzi, Fort Meade, *&, gchq.gov.uk,
supercomputer, bullion, 3, NTTC, Blackmednet, :,
Propaganda, ABC, Satellite phones, IWIS, Planet-1,
ISTA, rs9512c, South Africa, Sergeyev, Montenegro,
Toeffler, Rebollo, sorot, cryptanalysis, nuclear,
52 52 N - 03 03 W, Morgan, Canine, GEBA, INSCOM,
MEMEX, Stanley, FBI, Panama, fissionable, Sears
Tower, NORAD, Delta Force, SEAL, virtual, WASS,
WID, Dolch, secure shell, screws, Black-Ops, O/S,
Area51, SABC, basement, ISWG, $ @, data-haven,
NSDD, black-bag, rack, TEMPEST, Goodwin, rebels,
ID, MD5, IDEA, garbage, market, beef, Stego,
ISAF, unclassified, Sayeret Tzanhanim, PARASAR,
Gripan, pirg, curly, Taiwan, guest, utopia, NSG,
orthodox, CCSQ, Alica, SHA, Global, gorilla, Bob,
UNSCOM, Fukuyama, Manfurov, Kvashnin, Marx,
Abdurahmon, snullen, Pseudonyms, MITM, NARF, Gray
Data, VLSI, mega, Leitrim, Yakima, NSES, Sugar Grove,
WAS, Cowboy, Gist, 8182, Gatt, Platform, 1911,
Geraldton, UKUSA, veggie, XM, Parvus, NAVSVS,
3848, Morwenstow, Consul, Oratory, Pine Gap,
Menwith, Mantis, DSD, BVD, 1984, blow out, BUDS,
WQC, Flintlock, PABX, Electron, Chicago Crust,
e95, DDR&E, 3M, KEDO, iButton, R1, erco, Toffler,
FAS, RHL, K3, Visa/BCC, SNT, Ceridian, STE, condor,
CipherTAC-2000, Etacs, Shipiro, ssor, piz, fritz,
KY, 32, Edens, Kiwis, Kamumaruha, DODIG, Firefly, HRM,
Albright, Bellcore, rail, csim, NMS, 2c, FIPS140-1,
CAVE, E-Bomb, CDMA, Fortezza, 355ml, ISSC, cybercash,
NAWAS, government, NSY, hate, speedbump, joe,
illuminati, BOSS, Kourou, Misawa, Morse, HF, P415,
ladylove, filofax, Gulf, lamma, Unit 5707, Sayeret
Mat'Kal, Unit 669, Sayeret Golani, Lanceros,
Summercon, NSADS, president, ISFR, freedom, ISSO,
walburn, Defcon VI, DC6, Larson, P99, HERF pipe-bomb,
2.3 Oz., cocaine, $, impact, Roswell, ESN, COS,
E.T., credit card, b9, fraud, ST1, assassinate,
virus, ISCS, ISPR, anarchy, rogue, mailbomb, 888,
Chelsea, 1997, Whitewater, MOD, York, plutonium,
William Gates, clone, BATF, SGDN, Nike, WWSV, Atlas,
IWWSVCS, Delta, TWA, Kiwi, PGP 2.6.2., PGP 5.0i,
PGP 5.1, siliconpimp, SASSTIXS, IWG, Lynch, 414,
Face, Pixar, IRIDF, NSRB, eternity server, Skytel,
Yukon, Templeton, Johohonbu, LUK, Cohiba, Soros,
Standford, niche, ISEP, ISEC, 51, H&K, USP, ^,
sardine, bank, EUB, USP, PCS, NRO, Red Cell, NSOF,
Glock 26, snuffle, Patel, package, ISI, INR, INS,
IRS, GRU, RUOP, GSS, NSP, SRI, Ronco, Armani, BOSS,
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Sardine, SBIRS, jaws, SGDN, ADIU, DEADBEEF, IDP,
IDF, Halibut, SONANGOL, Flu, &, Loin, PGP 5.53, meta,
Faber, SFPD, EG&G, ISEP, blackjack, Fox, Aum, AIEWS,
AMW, RHL, Baranyi, WORM, MP5K-SD, 1071, WINGS, cdi,
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Templar, THAAD, package, CISD, ISG, BIOLWPN, JRA,
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Mexico, SUR, SO13, Rojdykarna, airframe, 510,
EuroFed, Avi, shelter, Crypto AG.
--- End forwarded message ---

Stormin Mormon wrote:
....
This system ignores the Fourth
Amendment's proscription of unreasonable searches.
Americans were horrified a year ago when it was
announced that Russia's law enforcement required
all internet traffic to be forwarded to state
computers. Now our law enforcement is doing it
to us.

Are there are still people who are surprised that Obammy
the commy is emulating his role models?

Thanks,
Rich

On Mar 17, 6:05*am, Rich Grise wrote:
Stormin Mormon wrote:
..
Are there are still people who are surprised that Obammy
the commy is emulating his role models?

Rich

It began operating under Clinton.

Jim Wilkins wrote:
On Mar 17, 6:05 am, Rich wrote:
Stormin Mormon wrote:
..
Are there are still people who are surprised that Obammy
the commy is emulating his role models?

Rich

It began operating under Clinton.


"Eschelon" has been around for a lot longer than that.

On Mar 17, 6:33*am, Jim Wilkins wrote:
On Mar 17, 6:05*am, Rich Grise wrote:

Stormin Mormon wrote:
..
Are there are still people who are surprised that Obammy
the commy is emulating his role models?

Rich

It began operating under Clinton.

Reagan is responsible for its creation.

TMT

On 3/17/2011 8:06 AM, Too_Many_Tools wrote:
On Mar 17, 6:33 am, Jim wrote:
On Mar 17, 6:05 am, Rich wrote:

Stormin Mormon wrote:
..
Are there are still people who are surprised that Obammy
the commy is emulating his role models?

Rich

It began operating under Clinton.

Reagan is responsible for its creation.

TMT

notice how the first inclination of those who know nothing is to blame
Obama, not to seek the truth.

F Murtz on Thu, 17 Mar 2011 23:24:48 +1100 typed
in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
Jim Wilkins wrote:
On Mar 17, 6:05 am, Rich wrote:
Stormin Mormon wrote:
..
Are there are still people who are surprised that Obammy
the commy is emulating his role models?

Rich

It began operating under Clinton.


"Eschelon" has been around for a lot longer than that.

And the whole premise was that We don't watch Our Good Citizens,
but We'll watch yours (and share the Intel take with you).

tschus
pyotr

--
pyotr filipivich
We will drink no whiskey before its nine.
It's eight fifty eight. Close enough!

.. wrote:
On 3/17/2011 8:06 AM, Too_Many_Tools wrote:
On Mar 17, 6:33 am, Jim wrote:
On Mar 17, 6:05 am, Rich wrote:

Stormin Mormon wrote:
..
Are there are still people who are surprised that Obammy
the commy is emulating his role models?

It began operating under Clinton.

Reagan is responsible for its creation.

notice how the first inclination of those who know nothing is to blame
Obama, not to seek the truth.

Yeah, and only two short years ago or so, they were all blaming Bush.

Thanks,
Rich

You ask that question again, and the union thugs will lay in
wait for you.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Rich Grise" wrote in message
...
Stormin Mormon wrote:
....
This system ignores the Fourth
Amendment's proscription of unreasonable searches.
Americans were horrified a year ago when it was
announced that Russia's law enforcement required
all internet traffic to be forwarded to state
computers. Now our law enforcement is doing it
to us.

Are there are still people who are surprised that Obammy
the commy is emulating his role models?

Thanks,
Rich

On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 03:05:39 -0700, Rich Grise
wrote:

Stormin Mormon wrote:
...
This system ignores the Fourth
Amendment's proscription of unreasonable searches.
Americans were horrified a year ago when it was
announced that Russia's law enforcement required
all internet traffic to be forwarded to state
computers. Now our law enforcement is doing it
to us.

Are there are still people who are surprised that Obammy
the commy is emulating his role models?

Thanks,
Rich
==========
Don't make the mistake that the figurehead has much, if
anything, to do with the course the ship takes.

Between the rogue bureaucracy/civil service and plutocratic
transnational corporations, the individuals are to be
squeezed to extinction and replaced with the new American
Model Citizen [not to be confused with the "New Soviet Man"]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Soviet_man
http://www.roca.org/OA/76-77/76f.htm


for the other side see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_Sovieticus
http://www.fff.org/freedom/0691e.asp

As Hegel so aptly observed "the only thing we learn from
history is that we learn nothing from history."
http://thinkexist.com/quotation/the-...we/534513.html


FWIW -- it appears we are at a cusp or inflection point with
the critical need to increased the [US] debt limit to permit
the borrowing required to fund not only the rogue
bureaucrats, but the US domiciled transnational corporations
that are largely dependent on the governmental tit [funded
by the increasingly pauperized middle class taxpayers] for
their operations and expansions. This may well be our last
opportunity to stop the bus before it is driven over the
cliff without resorting to massive citizen uprisings.

If you are really concerned write your Senators and
Congressman to urge "spiking" any legislation to increase
the debt limit to prevent even the consideration, and a NO
vote on any debt limit increase if it is brought to the
floor for a vote, and if possible enactment of the Toomey
legislation priortizing federal disbursements with bond
redemption and interest payments at the top of the list to
preempt Treasury, et al from causing a preventable
financial/fiscal governmental default.

You can find your Congressional representatives, their snail
mail addresses and web mail at
http://senate.gov/ and
http://house.gov/

Be sure to book mark for easy nagging.

A copy of the webmail I sent to my Senators/Representive
follows. Feel free to use any, all or none of it.

----- start of email

Q: What's that rumbling noise I hear?

A: Herds of wild RINOs [Republicans in Name Only] stampeding
to the defense of the status quo, debt and deficit increases
as incited by Secretary of The Treasury Geithner (and their
major campaign contributors) to reinforce their donkey
allies.

Secretary Geithner has proclaimed "the country's debt limit
was not a useful tool relative to its political costs for
Congress." He added ""It provides no leverage in that
context and it's had no value in bringing discipline to the
fiscal choices of the country in the past," he said. "My own
sense that it is not a particularly useful tool relative to
the political costs imposed on each of you." he told the
panel."
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...72F8SW20110316

Translated from the "polspeak" (aka called "newspeak" by
Orwell) to plain English, this means that the National Debt
Limit, which is about to again be exceeded, is indeed a
chokehold on the financial profligacy of the administration
and "loose cannon" bureaucrats.

The legislative choice is no longer between a "disaster" and
"no disaster," but rather between a full-scale financial
disaster now, where many useful and valuable things can be
salvaged and a gigantic financial/fiscal catastrophe later
where almost everything will be lost.

I strongly urge you to use this once in political lifetime
opportunity to apply this financial chokehold to the
greatest extent/effect and with the utmost vigor.

With or without the Toomey legislation to prioritize Federal
disbursements with bond redemptions and interest payments at
the top of the list, it is imperative that all efforts to
increase the national debt limit be "spiked" or prevented
from even reaching the floor in either house for a vote, if
federal spending is to be controlled BEFORE A TOTAL
SOCIO-ECONOMIC/POLITICAL COLLAPSE OCCURS, when the debt
increases/spending must stop anyhow.

----- end of email


-- Unka George (George McDuffee)
...............................
The past is a foreign country;
they do things differently there.
L. P. Hartley (1895-1972), British author.
The Go-Between, Prologue (1953).

F. George McDuffee wrote:
On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 03:05:39 -0700, Rich Grise
Stormin Mormon wrote:
...
This system ignores the Fourth
Amendment's proscription of unreasonable searches.
Americans were horrified a year ago when it was
announced that Russia's law enforcement required
all internet traffic to be forwarded to state
computers. Now our law enforcement is doing it
to us.

Are there are still people who are surprised that Obammy
the commy is emulating his role models?

[major snip]
FWIW -- it appears we are at a cusp or inflection point...

I believe it's more like an asymptote:
"The events predicted for 2012 by the ancient Maya are not substantially
different than those predicted by sages throughout the millennia.
Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist and other seers have predicted
similar events marking 'the end of time.' And the Maya are only one of many
indigenous cultures that have spoken of their deeply held vision for the
events near and immediately after the end of time."
--- http://godchannel.com/grandfatherinterview2.html

Cheers!
Rich