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My truck battery is dying, and I was wondering if there is such as
thing as a "better battery", or are they all created the same. Thnks
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My truck battery is dying, and I was wondering if there is such as
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How old is it?


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thing as a "better battery", or are they all created the same. Thnks


I have had good luck with Duralst and Interstate batteries.
What you need to do is to measure the battery box and the clearance from
the battery to the hood, then buy the largest one that will fit. You can
always use extra amperage. Especially in locations that get cold!!
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Ignoramus9135 wrote:
My truck battery is dying, and I was wondering if there is such as
thing as a "better battery", or are they all created the same. Thnks


I have had good luck with Duralst and Interstate batteries.
What you need to do is to measure the battery box and the clearance from
the battery to the hood, then buy the largest one that will fit. You can
always use extra amperage. Especially in locations that get cold!!

My experience with the Interstate MegaTron batteries has been
excellent.
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My truck battery is dying, and I was wondering if there is such as
thing as a "better battery", or are they all created the same. Thnks


Consumer Reports has done car battery tests forever, it seems, yes,
there's a difference. But no matter which one you get, they're all
boxes of chemicals that start deteriorating the minute they're put
together and they all die at about 5-7 years no matter what kind of
care they've had. Usually the two top brands are Interstate and Die
Hard. Me, I just find out what they've got at the parts joint within
walking distance...

Stan


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My truck battery is dying, and I was wondering if there is such as
thing as a "better battery", or are they all created the same. Thnks


They certainly are not all the same.

Interstate makes good batteries.

Surprisingly enough, I was amazed at how good Ford OEM batteries were
when we had Fords. I replaced them at age 8 just because I couldn't
believe they'd lasted that long in MN. The replacements were still
going strong when we replaced the cars at ages 14 and 15.
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On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 18:10:46 -0600, Ignoramus9135

My truck battery is dying, and I was wondering if there is such as
thing as a "better battery", or are they all created the same. Thnks


They certainly are not all the same.

Interstate makes good batteries.

Surprisingly enough, I was amazed at how good Ford OEM batteries were
when we had Fords. I replaced them at age 8 just because I couldn't
believe they'd lasted that long in MN. The replacements were still
going strong when we replaced the cars at ages 14 and 15.


I've also had this kind of "luck" with DieHard batteries. The only
batteries I've _ever_ had to replace have been used or off-brand,
and every DieHard I've ever bought has outlived the car that I put
it in and somehow parted company with.

I guess you could call this an endorsement of DieHards, but I'm not
getting any kickbacks or anything. :-)

Disclaimer: these were ordinary car batteries - truck batteries might
have different parameters or something.

Cheers!
Rich

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On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 18:10:46 -0600, Ignoramus9135

My truck battery is dying, and I was wondering if there is such as
thing as a "better battery", or are they all created the same. Thnks


They certainly are not all the same.

Interstate makes good batteries.

Surprisingly enough, I was amazed at how good Ford OEM batteries were
when we had Fords. I replaced them at age 8 just because I couldn't
believe they'd lasted that long in MN. The replacements were still
going strong when we replaced the cars at ages 14 and 15.


P.S.: I've also had good luck with Fords, contrary to "Fix Or Repair Daily"
or "For Orphans, Retards, & Dinks" or "Found On Road Dead" - these were
obviously coined by Chevy or Chrysler fans. ;-)

Keep them in oil, and they'll run forever. ("Fill up the oil and check the
gas, please." ;-) )

Admittedly, I had a slant 6 once, and they're essentially indestructible,
(had to retire the car when I rolled it) and I once had a Plymouth Gran
Fury 350 or so that finally threw the timing chain at about 250,000 miles
- I could probably have had it fixed for about a grand, but I didn't have
a thousand dollars at the time. )-;

And part of what kept the Gran Fury running was a DieHard. ;-D

Thanks!
Rich

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On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 01:58:26 -0800, Rich Grise
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Don Foreman wrote:
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 18:10:46 -0600, Ignoramus9135

My truck battery is dying, and I was wondering if there is such as
thing as a "better battery", or are they all created the same. Thnks


They certainly are not all the same.

Interstate makes good batteries.

Surprisingly enough, I was amazed at how good Ford OEM batteries were
when we had Fords. I replaced them at age 8 just because I couldn't
believe they'd lasted that long in MN. The replacements were still
going strong when we replaced the cars at ages 14 and 15.


P.S.: I've also had good luck with Fords, contrary to "Fix Or Repair Daily"
or "For Orphans, Retards, & Dinks" or "Found On Road Dead" - these were
obviously coined by Chevy or Chrysler fans. ;-)

Keep them in oil, and they'll run forever. ("Fill up the oil and check the
gas, please." ;-) )

Admittedly, I had a slant 6 once, and they're essentially indestructible,
(had to retire the car when I rolled it) and I once had a Plymouth Gran
Fury 350 or so that finally threw the timing chain at about 250,000 miles
- I could probably have had it fixed for about a grand, but I didn't have
a thousand dollars at the time. )-;

And part of what kept the Gran Fury running was a DieHard. ;-D

Thanks!
Rich

My kid brother replaced the timing chain on a 360 Grand Fury one
friday afternoon in less than an hour. He was working for me at the
time and a car at the gas station across the street wouldn't start
after filling up with gas (at about 4PM). We pushed it across the
street into the shop, determined the chain had jumped, and the owner
asked "how long to fix it, and how much."
We told him the book time and my brother said "I think we can have you
out of here by supper time".
By the time the parts were on the counter he had it apart. My
apprentice stood there with his jaw about half way between his belt
and his knees and asked "where's that guy keep his spare set of
hands?"

It was done and back out the door before quitting time!! The customer
gladly paid the flat rate time and was home on time for supper.
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I thought my battery was failing, as the starter would turn a little slowly
when it was cold.

Then the starter went completely out. When I replaced the starter, the
problem went away.

The battery is still past it's warranty period, but it's an Interstate, and
still working fine with the new starter.

Jon




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My truck battery is dying, and I was wondering if there is such as
thing as a "better battery", or are they all created the same. Thnks

First of all, what kind of truck? What sized battery?
There are cheap junk batteries, expensive junk batteries, reasonably
priced good batteries, expensive good batteries, all the way up to
insanely expensive very good batteries.

The cheap and expensive junk batteries are the easiest to find.
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On 2011-02-15, wrote:
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On 2011-02-14,
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On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 18:10:46 -0600, Ignoramus9135
wrote:

My truck battery is dying, and I was wondering if there is such as
thing as a "better battery", or are they all created the same. Thnks
First of all, what kind of truck? What sized battery?
There are cheap junk batteries, expensive junk batteries, reasonably
priced good batteries, expensive good batteries, all the way up to
insanely expensive very good batteries.

The cheap and expensive junk batteries are the easiest to find.

Silverado 2500 3/4 ton. 2007 "classic".

i

Which engine? Gasser or oil-burner?


gasser

permanent magnet gear reduction starter?
Then you'll likely never draw more than 100 amps with the starter.
(likely not over 80) A 400CCA battery will handle your cranking just
fine with lots to spare- and some outboards draw more than that
Chevvy. The older "direct drive" starters could pull over 200 amps
when cold - and I've seen some of the aluminum field ones draw over
300 hot!!

Have you checked the connection at the 175 amp MegaFuse on the
passenger's side of the cowl??? There is a TSB out for a problem on
those trucks.

You likely have a group 48 battery in that truck - which is 500 to 800
CCA, more or less, depending on the manufacturer and model of battery
installed. I think the original Delco was optiminstically rated at
600.

Get an MTP H6A Interstate if you want the best available battery for
that truck. It is an AGM battery, 800cca 1000ca, 116 reserve capacity
battery - and is basically a Hawker Odyssey battery. They will handle
moderate deep cycling without harm. They are about $200.

And isn't the GM warranty on the original delco good for 5 years?
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Ignoramus14196 wrote:
On 2011-02-15, wrote:
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On 2011-02-14,
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On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 18:10:46 -0600, Ignoramus9135
wrote:

My truck battery is dying, and I was wondering if there is such as
thing as a "better battery", or are they all created the same. Thnks
First of all, what kind of truck? What sized battery?
There are cheap junk batteries, expensive junk batteries, reasonably
priced good batteries, expensive good batteries, all the way up to
insanely expensive very good batteries.

The cheap and expensive junk batteries are the easiest to find.
Silverado 2500 3/4 ton. 2007 "classic".

i

Which engine? Gasser or oil-burner?


gasser


Just another thought, on a ferguson T20 1956 2 ltr diesel tractor I
bought for my sons birthday when he was 9, we picked up from our local
reycling place some 5 yrs ago a s/h Bosch calcium/silver, it sayson the
label which we fitted to his tractor. Its still on there now, gets run
every week at least once, always cranks fast even in the cold and
ischarged by a 10 amp dynamo with a standard regulator. well keep it
going till it dies then get another from the recycling place!!
As for long life batteries, for out outback system, were off the grid,
i came by 3 tons of Alcad alcakine batteries in wooden crates there in
316 stainless cells. They were ex railway emergency signalling standby .
They
were 10 yrsold when I got them. There in use now, we charge each day
from the discharge percentage of 85% to 100% over a 1/2hr period.
They are expected to have a service life of 50yrs.
IF we wanted to replace these from Alcad as new, we would have to find
in the region of $50,000.00
I got them for $60,00 a ton from the scrap yard.
Cant be bad!!.

Ted
In Dorset
UK.

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