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"Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... BORN IN THE USA? Hawaii governor can't find Obama birth certificate Suggests controversy could hurt president's re-election chances Posted: January 18, 2011 8:05 pm Eastern By Jerome R. Corsi © 2011 WorldNetDaily Neil Abercrombie Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie suggested in an interview published today that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Barack Obama may not exist within the vital records maintained by the Hawaii Department of Health. Abercrombie told the Honolulu Star Advertiser he was searching within the Hawaii Department of Health to find definitive vital records that would prove Obama was born in Hawaii, because the continuing eligibility controversy could hurt the president's chances of re-election in 2012. Donalyn Dela Cruz, Abercrombie's spokeswoman in Honolulu, ignored again today another in a series of repeated requests made by WND for an interview with the governor. Toward the end of the interview, the newspaper asked Abercrombie: "You stirred up quite a controversy with your comments regarding birthers and your plan to release more information regarding President Barack Obama's birth certificate. How is that coming?" In his response, Abercrombie acknowledged the birth certificate issue will have "political implications" for the next presidential election "that we simply cannot have." Suggesting he was still intent on producing more birth records on Obama from the Hawaii Department of Health vital records vault, Abercrombie told the newspaper there was a recording of the Obama birth in the state archives that he wants to make public. Abercrombie did not report to the newspaper that he or the Hawaii Department of Health had found Obama's long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate. The governor only suggested his investigations to date had identified an unspecified listing or notation of Obama's birth that someone had made in the state archives. "It was actually written, I am told, this is what our investigation is showing, it actually exists in the archives, written down," Abercrombie said. For seemingly the first time, Abercrombie frankly acknowledged that presidential politics motivated his search for Obama birth records, implying that failure to resolve the questions that remain unanswered about the president's birth and early life may damage his chance for re-election. "If there is a political agenda (regarding Obama's birth certificate), then there is nothing I can do about that, nor can the president," he said. So far, the only birth document available on Obama is a Hawaii Certification of Live Birth that first appeared on the Internet during the 2008 presidential campaign. It was posted by two purportedly independent websites that have displayed a strong partisan bias for Obama - Snopes.com released the COLB in June 2008, and FactCheck.org published photographs of the document in August 2008. WND previously reported the Hawaii Department of Health has refused to authenticate the COLB posted on the Internet by Snopes.com and FactCheck.org. WND has reported that in 1961, Obama's grandparents, Stanley and Madelyn Dunham, could have made an in-person report of a Hawaii birth even if the infant Barack Obama Jr. had been foreign-born. Similarly, the newspaper announcements of Obama's birth do not prove he was born in Hawaii, since they could have been triggered by the grandparents registering the birth as Hawaiian, even if the baby was born elsewhere. Moreover, WND has documented that the address reported in the newspaper birth announcements was the home of the grandparents. WND also has reported that Barack Obama Sr. maintained his own separate apartment in Honolulu, even after he was supposedly married to Ann Dunham, Barack Obama's mother, and that Dunham left Hawaii within three weeks of the baby's birth to attend the University of Washington in Seattle. Dunham did not return to Hawaii until after Barack Obama Sr. left Hawaii in June 1962 to attend graduate school at Harvard University in Cambridge, Mass. Conceivably, the yet undisclosed birth record in the state archives that Abercrombie has discovered may have come from the grandparents registering Obama's birth, an event that would have triggered both the newspaper birth announcements and availability of a Certification of Live Birth, even if no long-form birth certificate existed. WND has also reported that Tim Adams, a former senior elections clerk for the city and county of Honolulu in 2008, has maintained that there is no long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate on file with the Hawaii Department of Health and that neither Honolulu hospital - Queens Medical Center or Kapiolani Medical Center - has any record that Obama was born there. Read mo Hawaii governor can't find Obama birth certificate http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=252833#ixzz1BT5GS4Wm Geez, kinda like those pesky WMD's. You can't find something that's not there, can one? Steve |
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"Steve B" wrote in message ... "Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... BORN IN THE USA? Hawaii governor can't find Obama birth certificate Suggests controversy could hurt president's re-election chances Posted: January 18, 2011 8:05 pm Eastern By Jerome R. Corsi © 2011 WorldNetDaily Neil Abercrombie Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie suggested in an interview published today that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Barack Obama may not exist within the vital records maintained by the Hawaii Department of Health. Sounds like Abercrombie is just an attention whore. |
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On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 12:07:07 -0500, "ATP"
wrote: "Steve B" wrote in message ... "Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... BORN IN THE USA? Hawaii governor can't find Obama birth certificate Suggests controversy could hurt president's re-election chances Posted: January 18, 2011 8:05 pm Eastern By Jerome R. Corsi © 2011 WorldNetDaily Neil Abercrombie Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie suggested in an interview published today that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Barack Obama may not exist within the vital records maintained by the Hawaii Department of Health. Sounds like Abercrombie is just an attention whore. He is..afterall.. a Democrat. But thats besides the point in this discussion. So where IS Obamas Long Form birth cert? Hummmmm??? Gunner -- "You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having both at once." Robert A. Heinlein |
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On Jan 19, 12:11*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 12:07:07 -0500, "ATP" wrote: "Steve B" wrote in message ... "Gunner Asch" wrote in message . .. BORN IN THE USA? Hawaii governor can't find Obama birth certificate Suggests controversy could hurt president's re-election chances Posted: January 18, 2011 8:05 pm Eastern By Jerome R. Corsi 2011 WorldNetDaily Neil Abercrombie Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie suggested in an interview published today that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Barack Obama may not exist within the vital records maintained by the Hawaii Department of Health. Sounds like Abercrombie is just an attention whore. He is..afterall.. a Democrat. But thats besides the point in this discussion. So where IS Obamas Long Form birth cert? Hummmmm??? Gunner Where's yours? |
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"ATP" wrote in message ... "Steve B" wrote in message ... "Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... BORN IN THE USA? Hawaii governor can't find Obama birth certificate Suggests controversy could hurt president's re-election chances Posted: January 18, 2011 8:05 pm Eastern By Jerome R. Corsi © 2011 WorldNetDaily Neil Abercrombie Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie suggested in an interview published today that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Barack Obama may not exist within the vital records maintained by the Hawaii Department of Health. Sounds like Abercrombie is just an attention whore. Most patriots are. Steve |
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"Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 12:07:07 -0500, "ATP" wrote: "Steve B" wrote in message ... "Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... BORN IN THE USA? Hawaii governor can't find Obama birth certificate Suggests controversy could hurt president's re-election chances Posted: January 18, 2011 8:05 pm Eastern By Jerome R. Corsi © 2011 WorldNetDaily Neil Abercrombie Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie suggested in an interview published today that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Barack Obama may not exist within the vital records maintained by the Hawaii Department of Health. Sounds like Abercrombie is just an attention whore. He is..afterall.. a Democrat. Are you a Democrat? Or is there some other explanation? But thats besides the point in this discussion. So where IS Obamas Long Form birth cert? Hummmmm??? Gunner Most rational people are not obsessing over it. |
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Gunner Asch on Wed, 19 Jan 2011 09:11:22 -0800
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 12:07:07 -0500, "ATP" wrote: "Steve B" wrote in message ... "Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... BORN IN THE USA? Hawaii governor can't find Obama birth certificate Suggests controversy could hurt president's re-election chances Posted: January 18, 2011 8:05 pm Eastern By Jerome R. Corsi © 2011 WorldNetDaily Neil Abercrombie Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie suggested in an interview published today that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Barack Obama may not exist within the vital records maintained by the Hawaii Department of Health. Sounds like Abercrombie is just an attention whore. He is..afterall.. a Democrat. But thats besides the point in this discussion. So where IS Obamas Long Form birth cert? Hummmmm??? Maybe the Menehunes (pronounced meh-neh-HOO-nehs) got it? (They are the Island equivalent of "the little people") Gunner -- pyotr filipivich We will drink no whiskey before its nine. It's eight fifty eight. Close enough! |
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"pyotr filipivich" wrote in message ... Gunner Asch on Wed, 19 Jan 2011 09:11:22 -0800 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 12:07:07 -0500, "ATP" wrote: "Steve B" wrote in message ... "Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... BORN IN THE USA? Hawaii governor can't find Obama birth certificate Suggests controversy could hurt president's re-election chances Posted: January 18, 2011 8:05 pm Eastern By Jerome R. Corsi © 2011 WorldNetDaily Neil Abercrombie Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie suggested in an interview published today that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Barack Obama may not exist within the vital records maintained by the Hawaii Department of Health. Sounds like Abercrombie is just an attention whore. He is..afterall.. a Democrat. But thats besides the point in this discussion. So where IS Obamas Long Form birth cert? Hummmmm??? Maybe the Menehunes (pronounced meh-neh-HOO-nehs) got it? (They are the Island equivalent of "the little people") Maria Menounos? Not sure where she'd be hiding it..... http://tmz.egotastic.com/image?path=...ami%20on%20NYE |
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On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 14:25:13 -0800, pyotr filipivich
wrote: Gunner Asch on Wed, 19 Jan 2011 09:11:22 -0800 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 12:07:07 -0500, "ATP" wrote: "Steve B" wrote in message ... "Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... BORN IN THE USA? Hawaii governor can't find Obama birth certificate Suggests controversy could hurt president's re-election chances Posted: January 18, 2011 8:05 pm Eastern By Jerome R. Corsi © 2011 WorldNetDaily Neil Abercrombie Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie suggested in an interview published today that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Barack Obama may not exist within the vital records maintained by the Hawaii Department of Health. Sounds like Abercrombie is just an attention whore. He is..afterall.. a Democrat. But thats besides the point in this discussion. So where IS Obamas Long Form birth cert? Hummmmm??? Maybe the Menehunes (pronounced meh-neh-HOO-nehs) got it? (They are the Island equivalent of "the little people") "My dog^H^H^HGod Pele ate it." -- Live in the sunshine, swim the sea, drink the wild air... -- Ralph Waldo Emerson |
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