I normally don't reply to these crossposted off topic posts, of any subject
matter, but..

Naturalist Experts pushed for re-introduction of coyotes into PA (and maybe
your states too), and now there is a bounty on them.

What a moving hollyday story of no significance.. I can't believe that they
missed the opportunity to suggest that this wild animal is a DOGGIE and that
the rescuers are HEROES.

Look at the free public money that was expended for a coyote. Helicopter,
manpower, fuel, boat(s) potential risks of a person drowning/pneumonia or
being infected with rabies or other disease, etc.

Said animal is now resting comfortably with a full medical staff available
to monitor its' every need, apparently.
Resting comfortably in a warm facility, exactly where every wild animal
aspires to be, and now it has a name.. how sweet.

How fitting it would be, if one of the heroic rescuers' pets (which are
actually family members, of course) would get mauled or killed by a pack of
coyotes.

Reminds me of an animal rescue TV show, where various public agencies were
on the scene with numerous pieces of very expensive public fire and rescue
equipment, and manpower provided by public servants, gubmint personnel in
southern CA..
all to "rescue" a wild crow that was entangled on an overhead cable.

Said wild bird was (rushed?) to a medical facility for emergency care in
that story too, IIRC (don't expect me to accept that these situations are
valuable training exercises/missions).

Now CA is experiencing financial trouble/bankrupt.. uhmm, no ****.

So let's all help rescue CA with other free public money.

--
WB
..........


"Chomp Noamsky" wrote in message
...

....rescued Female Coyote...

"Wild_Bill" wrote in message
...
I normally don't reply to these crossposted off topic posts, of any
subject matter, but..

Nice of you to find this important enough to comment on. I'm flattered that
I was able to break you of your usual routine. I'm doing important work by
posting here, don't you know, and you have just reinforced that for me.
Thanks.




Naturalist Experts pushed for re-introduction of coyotes into PA (and
maybe your states too), and now there is a bounty on them.

What a moving hollyday story of no significance.. I can't believe that
they missed the opportunity to suggest that this wild animal is a DOGGIE
and that the rescuers are HEROES.

Look at the free public money that was expended for a coyote. Helicopter,
manpower, fuel, boat(s) potential risks of a person drowning/pneumonia or
being infected with rabies or other disease, etc.

Said animal is now resting comfortably with a full medical staff available
to monitor its' every need, apparently.
Resting comfortably in a warm facility, exactly where every wild animal
aspires to be, and now it has a name.. how sweet.

How fitting it would be, if one of the heroic rescuers' pets (which are
actually family members, of course) would get mauled or killed by a pack
of coyotes.

Reminds me of an animal rescue TV show, where various public agencies were
on the scene with numerous pieces of very expensive public fire and rescue
equipment, and manpower provided by public servants, gubmint personnel in
southern CA..
all to "rescue" a wild crow that was entangled on an overhead cable.

Said wild bird was (rushed?) to a medical facility for emergency care in
that story too, IIRC (don't expect me to accept that these situations are
valuable training exercises/missions).

Now CA is experiencing financial trouble/bankrupt.. uhmm, no ****.

So let's all help rescue CA with other free public money.


Where were you when it was time to denounce Gorbal Warming and the no
significance story of polar bears on an ice flaw?

On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 20:01:46 -0500, "Wild_Bill"
wrote:

I normally don't reply to these crossposted off topic posts, of any subject
matter, but..

Naturalist Experts pushed for re-introduction of coyotes into PA (and maybe
your states too), and now there is a bounty on them.

What a moving hollyday story of no significance.. I can't believe that they
missed the opportunity to suggest that this wild animal is a DOGGIE and that
the rescuers are HEROES.

Look at the free public money that was expended for a coyote. Helicopter,
manpower, fuel, boat(s) potential risks of a person drowning/pneumonia or
being infected with rabies or other disease, etc.

Are you sure you're not confusing the reintroduction of wolves with
coyotes? I don't believe coyotes were ever native in the east until
they expanded their range relatively recently, and have never heard of
an intentional introduction.

No bounty here (ME), but very few restrictions on hunting coyotes.
Maybe the rescue was an attempt to insure a good coyote harvest? g

--
Ned Simmons

I've got an idea of how important your postings actually are.. after all,
the group that I cut from my reply is the missed-survival looney bin.
So Gummer & Crew lured another lively yapper that's not interested in
metalworking to RCM is no surprise.

Oh.. now I get it.. maybe you're concerned about survival of coyotes. Don't
worry too much, they'll be here long after you/us are gone, picking up the
scraps of natural selection.

I saw AG's video, and it was a decent performance.. highly edited, no doubt.

Until everyone who votes realizes that wannabe/past political figures are
only actors (with few exceptions), things will remain much the same.

Flaw, floe.. it's one 'a them werd things.

--
WB
..........


"Chomp Noamsky" wrote in message
...


Nice of you to find this important enough to comment on. I'm flattered
that I was able to break you of your usual routine. I'm doing important
work by posting here, don't you know, and you have just reinforced that
for me. Thanks.

Where were you when it was time to denounce Gorbal Warming and the no
significance story of polar bears on an ice flaw?

I beileve you're correct, Ned.. I had assumed that my hunting friends had
known what they were talking about (or I've misunderstood their comments) ,
since I haven't hunted for a lot of years.

http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal...=598430&mode=2

Game Commission stocking stories began in the late '80s after a coyote pup
ear-tagged by a wildlife conservation officer was shot by a deer hunter. The
pup, which was fitted with a telemetry collar and bobcat ear tag (#0026),
was trapped on a Greene County farm where coyotes were killing sheep. It was
hoped the pup would lead the officer to its den. Within days, however, the
young coyote couldn't be located with radio gear; it apparently had shaken
its telemetry collar. The coyote, minus its collar, was shot a few months
later. Stories began to spread that it bore a ear tag from a western state,
and that at least 25 other coyotes had been released, given the tag's
number. The rumors continue.

Related sites show that PA male coyotes can weigh up to 60 pounds (with 50#
being more common), and that coy-wolf crossbreeds are fairly uncommon and
that coy-dogs are rare.

Man asks: "Excuse me sir, does your dog bite"?
Reply: "No".
After being savagely bitten, man states "I thought you said your dog doesn't
bite!"
Other man replies "That's not my dog"

If that doesn't seem funny, I'd recommend the scene which included Peter
Sellers.

--
WB
..........


"Ned Simmons" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 20:01:46 -0500, "Wild_Bill"
wrote:

I normally don't reply to these crossposted off topic posts, of any
subject
matter, but..

Naturalist Experts pushed for re-introduction of coyotes into PA (and
maybe
your states too), and now there is a bounty on them.

What a moving hollyday story of no significance.. I can't believe that
they
missed the opportunity to suggest that this wild animal is a DOGGIE and
that
the rescuers are HEROES.

Look at the free public money that was expended for a coyote. Helicopter,
manpower, fuel, boat(s) potential risks of a person drowning/pneumonia or
being infected with rabies or other disease, etc.

Are you sure you're not confusing the reintroduction of wolves with
coyotes? I don't believe coyotes were ever native in the east until
they expanded their range relatively recently, and have never heard of
an intentional introduction.

No bounty here (ME), but very few restrictions on hunting coyotes.
Maybe the rescue was an attempt to insure a good coyote harvest? g

--
Ned Simmons

"Wild_Bill" wrote in message
...
I beileve you're correct, Ned.. I had assumed that my hunting friends had
known what they were talking about (or I've misunderstood their comments)
, since I haven't hunted for a lot of years.

http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal...=598430&mode=2

Game Commission stocking stories began in the late '80s after a coyote pup
ear-tagged by a wildlife conservation officer was shot by a deer hunter.
The pup, which was fitted with a telemetry collar and bobcat ear tag
(#0026), was trapped on a Greene County farm where coyotes were killing
sheep. It was hoped the pup would lead the officer to its den. Within
days, however, the young coyote couldn't be located with radio gear; it
apparently had shaken its telemetry collar. The coyote, minus its collar,
was shot a few months later. Stories began to spread that it bore a ear
tag from a western state, and that at least 25 other coyotes had been
released, given the tag's number. The rumors continue.

Related sites show that PA male coyotes can weigh up to 60 pounds (with
50# being more common), and that coy-wolf crossbreeds are fairly uncommon
and that coy-dogs are rare.

Man asks: "Excuse me sir, does your dog bite"?
Reply: "No".
After being savagely bitten, man states "I thought you said your dog
doesn't bite!"
Other man replies "That's not my dog"

If that doesn't seem funny, I'd recommend the scene which included Peter
Sellers.

--
WB
.........


"Ned Simmons" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 20:01:46 -0500, "Wild_Bill"
wrote:

I normally don't reply to these crossposted off topic posts, of any
subject
matter, but..

Naturalist Experts pushed for re-introduction of coyotes into PA (and
maybe
your states too), and now there is a bounty on them.

What a moving hollyday story of no significance.. I can't believe that
they
missed the opportunity to suggest that this wild animal is a DOGGIE and
that
the rescuers are HEROES.

Look at the free public money that was expended for a coyote. Helicopter,
manpower, fuel, boat(s) potential risks of a person drowning/pneumonia or
being infected with rabies or other disease, etc.

Are you sure you're not confusing the reintroduction of wolves with
coyotes? I don't believe coyotes were ever native in the east until
they expanded their range relatively recently, and have never heard of
an intentional introduction.

No bounty here (ME), but very few restrictions on hunting coyotes.
Maybe the rescue was an attempt to insure a good coyote harvest? g



Coyotes have been introduced, and fitted with radio collars, to walk the
streets of Chicago and take care of the rat problem in the downtown area.
They have been unofficially dubbed "Rat Patrol", although in the media it is
about too many rabbits It's a Chicago thing, never tell the truth.

http://chicagoist.com/2010/12/18/chi...nd_of_town.php

We had to chuckle at the breathless coverage of yesterday's rescue operation
in which a Chicago Fire Department boat was dispatched with city Animal
Control staffers to save "Holly," a coyote stuck floating on a tiny ice flow
in Belmont Harbor. The story so captured the attention of this town's media
that, for once, Rahm Emanuel almost disappeared from the headlines for the
day…almost. But as funny as the story must look to media watchers---it must
be an astounding cultural disconnect for folks in the Rocky Mountains, where
coyotes are considered problematic varmints and your tax dollars go to
poison, trap, or shoot almost 100,000 of them annually.

Holly was the latest in a growing list of stories that remind us just how
pervasive coyotes have become in Chicago's urban landscape in recent years.
There were wild coyote visits to Lincoln Park Zoo in 2004 and 2005. Poodle
predation at Lincolnwood Mall in 2006. The infamous cooler coyote at a
downtown Quizno's in 2007. Debate over a culling plan in Wheaton earlier
this year. And amazing video of a coyote sauntering down State Street
recently… Yup, Chicago is a coyote's kind of town---we even named a
prominent building after the critters.

So, while coyotes are viewed as a threat out west, we seem to be embracing
them here. And that has a lot to do with differences in the urban and
western landscapes. Here, we are thrilled to see coyotes helping to limit
nuisance species like rodents, rabbits, Canadian geese, and suburban deer.
It is natural, cost-effective, and arguably a valuable service to limit the
growing population of lap dogs (thankfully, the fad of carrying them around
in one's purse has faded). However, coyotes are considered by many to be the
nuisance when they come into competition with people by eating livestock,
deer, and elk. In those areas, residents must be scratching their heads when
they see video of a concerted governmental effort to pluck a coyote out of
freezing water rather than shooting it.

As the canny canids have moved in, local government has been watching. Cook
County runs the largest urban coyote study in the world in conjunction with
Ohio State University and the Max McGraw Wildlife Foundation. To track where
the furry foragers are and how they spend time, the study follows 250 radio
collared coyotes. One thing is clear, they are everywhe

"Nine million people live in the greater Chicago area," said [coyote
researcher Stanley] Gehrt, who is also a wildlife extension specialist at
Ohio State. "We didn't think very many coyotes could thrive in such a highly
urbanized area. We couldn't find an area in Chicago where there weren't
coyotes. They've learned to exploit all parts of their landscape."

And why wouldn't they love it here? Plenty of fat, juicy mice. Lots of empty
buildings to comfortably sleep off a goose bender in peace. And, since there
are not bigger predators or wildlife officials hunting them down nonstop,
urban coyotes live longer here. So, expect more Hollys soon, because the
coyotes keep coming.