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Default Barbara Boxer meets her match

On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 11:30:46 GMT, Deep Dudu wrote:

On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 20:23:47 -0700, Jim Chandler
wrote:

On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 00:50:09 GMT, Deep Dudu wrote:

On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 16:38:32 -0700 (PDT), Shall not be infringed
wrote:

On Oct 25, 7:36=A0pm, "Tom Gardner" wrote:
Deep Dudu wrote in ...
On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 15:39:43 -0700 (PDT), Shall not be infringed
wrote:

Even though she might not be the most arrogant, it's time to dump
every elitist in Washington.

Starting with all the Republicans so the Democrats can usher in some
real change for the better.

They need a new playbook, one that includes actual good things for Americ=
a.
What they have presented so far is detrimental.

In every case Marxism has proven terminal.

There is nothing Marxist about the Democrats you ignorant piece of
****. Why don't you run and play and stop embarrassing yourself
because you know nothing.



If it's not Marxist, what would you call taking what I earned as a
working person and giving it to those who will not work just to "level
the playing field"? Government intervention in industry (General
Motors, Chrysler, medical care) and making people dependant on the
government, and suppressing the right and will of the people to
protest their government isn't Marxist? You are the ignorant piece of
**** if you actually believe that.

I suggest you read up on Marx and communism, and socialism, and try to
differentiate between "democratic socialism". Try to get some
education and not be like the rest of you rightarded people. It's
easy to see why conservatives are so anti-education.

Jim



You are incorreect, I am very PRO education. That is a good education
that will provide a good scientist or engineer, not the crap taught in
most liberal institutions. You know what I'm talking about. Masters
degrees in library book dust, underwater basket weaving, PhDs in belly
Button Lint Identification, etc.

Jim
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Default Barbara Boxer meets her match

On 10/26/2010 4:40 PM, Jim Chandler wrote:
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 11:30:46 GMT, Deep Dudu wrote:

On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 20:23:47 -0700, Jim
wrote:

On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 00:50:09 GMT, Deep Dudu wrote:

On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 16:38:32 -0700 (PDT), Shall not be infringed
wrote:

On Oct 25, 7:36=A0pm, "Tom wrote:
Deep Dudu wrote in ...
On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 15:39:43 -0700 (PDT), Shall not be infringed
wrote:

Even though she might not be the most arrogant, it's time to dump
every elitist in Washington.

Starting with all the Republicans so the Democrats can usher in some
real change for the better.

They need a new playbook, one that includes actual good things for Americ=
a.
What they have presented so far is detrimental.

In every case Marxism has proven terminal.

There is nothing Marxist about the Democrats you ignorant piece of
****. Why don't you run and play and stop embarrassing yourself
because you know nothing.


If it's not Marxist, what would you call taking what I earned as a
working person and giving it to those who will not work just to "level
the playing field"? Government intervention in industry (General
Motors, Chrysler, medical care) and making people dependant on the
government, and suppressing the right and will of the people to
protest their government isn't Marxist? You are the ignorant piece of
**** if you actually believe that.

I suggest you read up on Marx and communism, and socialism, and try to
differentiate between "democratic socialism". Try to get some
education and not be like the rest of you rightarded people. It's
easy to see why conservatives are so anti-education.

Jim



You are incorreect, I am very PRO education. That is a good education
that will provide a good scientist or engineer, not the crap taught in
most liberal institutions. You know what I'm talking about. Masters
degrees in library book dust, underwater basket weaving, PhDs in belly
Button Lint Identification, etc.

Jim



Clearly you are not an educated man. You don't understand the value of
education. You believe that specific training in fields like science or
engineering are valuable but you really haven't the faintest notion of
what the value of a liberal arts education is. If you truly valued
education you would not think that way. You speak like an ignorant man
and an uneducated one. Once someone receives a real college education it
puts them far above the average person. Which is why so many people want
one. Not just so they can make more money. The unfortunate thing is that
the ordinary man, with no formal education never understands what he's
missing unless he gets educated. You have shown you are one of them.
Think of it like in the old days or in the movies when you heard an old
man say to the kids, why do you need a college education? I did fine in
life without one so if you ain't got one you can do just fine too? Get
it? Probably not.

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Default Barbara Boxer meets her match

On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 20:21:49 -0700, Hawke
wrote:

On 10/26/2010 4:40 PM, Jim Chandler wrote:
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 11:30:46 GMT, Deep Dudu wrote:

On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 20:23:47 -0700, Jim
wrote:

On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 00:50:09 GMT, Deep Dudu wrote:

On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 16:38:32 -0700 (PDT), Shall not be infringed
wrote:

On Oct 25, 7:36=A0pm, "Tom wrote:
Deep Dudu wrote in ...
On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 15:39:43 -0700 (PDT), Shall not be infringed
wrote:

Even though she might not be the most arrogant, it's time to dump
every elitist in Washington.

Starting with all the Republicans so the Democrats can usher in some
real change for the better.

They need a new playbook, one that includes actual good things for Americ=
a.
What they have presented so far is detrimental.

In every case Marxism has proven terminal.

There is nothing Marxist about the Democrats you ignorant piece of
****. Why don't you run and play and stop embarrassing yourself
because you know nothing.


If it's not Marxist, what would you call taking what I earned as a
working person and giving it to those who will not work just to "level
the playing field"? Government intervention in industry (General
Motors, Chrysler, medical care) and making people dependant on the
government, and suppressing the right and will of the people to
protest their government isn't Marxist? You are the ignorant piece of
**** if you actually believe that.

I suggest you read up on Marx and communism, and socialism, and try to
differentiate between "democratic socialism". Try to get some
education and not be like the rest of you rightarded people. It's
easy to see why conservatives are so anti-education.

Jim



You are incorreect, I am very PRO education. That is a good education
that will provide a good scientist or engineer, not the crap taught in
most liberal institutions. You know what I'm talking about. Masters
degrees in library book dust, underwater basket weaving, PhDs in belly
Button Lint Identification, etc.

Jim



Clearly you are not an educated man. You don't understand the value of
education. You believe that specific training in fields like science or
engineering are valuable but you really haven't the faintest notion of
what the value of a liberal arts education is. If you truly valued
education you would not think that way. You speak like an ignorant man
and an uneducated one. Once someone receives a real college education it
puts them far above the average person. Which is why so many people want
one. Not just so they can make more money. The unfortunate thing is that
the ordinary man, with no formal education never understands what he's
missing unless he gets educated. You have shown you are one of them.
Think of it like in the old days or in the movies when you heard an old
man say to the kids, why do you need a college education? I did fine in
life without one so if you ain't got one you can do just fine too? Get
it? Probably not.

Hawke



I happen to have one. I have also been in the classroom for over
seven years as a substitute teacher before I retired and I have seen
the quality of education take a nose dive. A four year degree these
days is the equivalent to what a high school diploma used to be and a
high school diploma is basically useless as far as what the kids know
when they "graduate". Many of the kids who go on to college these
days are functionally illiterate. They don't read well, they can't
spell and their writing is atrocious. I fully agree with the premise
that not everyone needs a college education. Some people would be far
better off with an education in the old "vocational arts" classes and
specialized training after high school. College used to be a well
rounded education and even the scientists and engineers had some
exposure to the "liberal arts". We don't really need more poly sci
majors these days. Our standing among the rest of so called civilized
countries in education is something like 48th when it used to be near,
if not at, the top. College education isn't what it used to be.

Jim
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