http://www.aurorasentinel.com/opinio...tml?mode=story

Obama is a victim of Bush's failed promises
By CHUCK GREEN

Barack Obama is setting a record-setting number of records during his
first year in office.

Largest budget ever.
Largest deficit ever.
Largest number of broken promises ever.
Most self-serving speeches ever.
Largest number of agenda-setting failures ever.
Fastest dive in popularity ever.


Wow. Talk about change.

Just one year ago, fresh from his inauguration celebrations, President
Obama was flying high. After one of the nation’s most inspiring
political campaigns, the election of America’s first black president had
captured the hopes and dreams of millions. To his devout followers, it
was inconceivable that a year later his administration would be gripped
in self-imposed crisis.

Of course, they don’t see it as self imposed. It’s all George Bush’s fault.

George Bush, who doesn’t have a vote in Congress and who no longer
occupies the White House, is to blame for it all.

He broke Obama’s promise to put all bills on the White House web site
for five days before signing them.

He broke Obama’s promise to have the congressional health care
negotiations broadcast live on C-SPAN.

He broke Obama’s promise to end earmarks.

He broke Obama’s promise to keep unemployment from rising above 8 percent.

He broke Obama’s promise to close the detention center at Guantanamo in
the first year.

He broke Obama’s promise to make peace with direct, no pre-condition
talks with America’s most hate-filled enemies during his first year in
office, ushering in a new era of global cooperation.

He broke Obama’s promise to end the hiring of former lobbyists into high
White House jobs.

He broke Obama’s promise to end no-compete contracts with the government.

He broke Obama’s promise to disclose the names of all attendees at
closed White House meetings.

He broke Obama’s promise for a new era of bipartisan cooperation in all
matters.

He broke Obama’s promise to have chosen a home church to attend Sunday
services with his family by Easter of last year.

Yes, it’s all George Bush’s fault. President Obama is nothing more than
a puppet in the never-ending, failed Bush administration.

If only George Bush wasn’t still in charge, all of President Obama’s
problems would be solved. His promises would have been kept, the economy
would be back on track, Iran would have stopped its work on developing a
nuclear bomb and would be negotiating a peace treaty with Israel, North
Korea would have ended its tyrannical regime, and integrity would have
been restored to the federal government.

Oh, and did I mention what it would be like if the Democrats, under the
leadership of Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, didn’t have the heavy yoke of
George Bush around their necks. There would be no earmarks, no
closed-door drafting of bills, no increase in deficit spending, no
special-interest influence (unions), no vote buying (Nebraska, Louisiana).

If only George Bush wasn’t still in charge, we’d have real change by now.

All the broken promises, all the failed legislation and delay (health
care reform, immigration reform) is not President Obama’s fault or the
fault of the Democrat-controlled Congress. It’s all George Bush’s fault.

Take for example the decision of Eric Holder, the president’s attorney
general, to hold terrorists’ trials in New York City. Or his decision to
try the Christmas Day underpants bomber as a civilian.

Two disastrous decisions.

Certainly those were bad judgments based on poor advice from George Bush.

Need more proof?

You might recall that when Scott Brown won last month’s election to the
U.S. Senate from Massachusetts, capturing “the Ted Kennedy seat,”
President Obama said that Brown’s victory was the result of the same
voter anger that propelled Obama into office in 2008. People were still
angry about George Bush and the policies of the past 10 years, and they
wanted change.

Yes, according to the president, the voter rebellion in Massachusetts
last month was George Bush’s fault.

Therefore, in retaliation, they elected a Republican to the Ted Kennedy
seat, ending a half-century of domination by Democrats.

It is all George Bush’s fault.

Will the failed administration of George Bush ever end, and the time for
hope and change ever arrive?

Will President Obama ever accept responsibility for something — anything?

Chuck Green, veteran Colorado journalist and former editor-in-chief of
The Denver Post, syndicates a statewide column and is at

On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 13:59:01 -0400, "Steve W."
wrote:

http://www.aurorasentinel.com/opinio...tml?mode=story

Obama is a victim of Bush's failed promises
By CHUCK GREEN

Barack Obama is setting a record-setting number of records during his
first year in office.

Largest budget ever.
Largest deficit ever.
Largest number of broken promises ever.
Most self-serving speeches ever.
Largest number of agenda-setting failures ever.
Fastest dive in popularity ever.
snip
Mr. Green writes well, but because he does not
speak/understand the special dialect/patois of English
called "Politicianese" he has misidentified the foundational
problem, which is that the politicians [there are more of
them in the corporate world than in Washington] live in an
alien [to normal people who are the vast majority]
weltanschauung/valence where there are no givens or
certainties, but everything is conditional, tentative, and
provisional.

One of the premiere business analysts and industrial
sociologists of our time, Rosabeth Moss Kantor, has done
extensive research on this point, and devotes a chapter in
her book _Men and Women of the Corporation_ to this
situation. This book is highly recommended if you want to
see how and why things have gone so wrong.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=rdr_ext_...0Moss%20Kanter

http://drfd.hbs.edu/fit/public/facul...acEmId=rkanter

While the politicians' language appears to be the common
vernacular [i.e. American English], the extreme differences
in weltanschauung/valence make any sort of meaningful
relationship or communication between the "politicians" and
the vast majority of [normal] people very difficult.
Indeed, on a personal level this appears to account for the
very high levels of divorce, and dysfunctional families,
evidenced by top-level politicians in both government and
industry.

It should be noted that loss of belief in a "determinable
continuity," and/or "cause and effect, is a classic
symptom/precursor to serious mental illness including
paranoid schizophrenia and sociopathy. This reinforces the
increasingly common observation that America's problems at
the bottom are *NOT* financial, but rather are due to the
psychopathology of our business and political "leadership."


-- Unka George (George McDuffee)
...............................
The past is a foreign country;
they do things differently there.
L. P. Hartley (1895-1972), British author.
The Go-Between, Prologue (1953).

On 9/28/2010 4:27 PM, F. George McDuffee wrote:
On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 13:59:01 -0400, "Steve W."
wrote:

http://www.aurorasentinel.com/opinio...tml?mode=story

Obama is a victim of Bush's failed promises
By CHUCK GREEN

Barack Obama is setting a record-setting number of records during his
first year in office.

Largest budget ever.
Largest deficit ever.
Largest number of broken promises ever.
Most self-serving speeches ever.
Largest number of agenda-setting failures ever.
Fastest dive in popularity ever.
snip
Mr. Green writes well, but because he does not
speak/understand the special dialect/patois of English
called "Politicianese" he has misidentified the foundational
problem, which is that the politicians [there are more of
them in the corporate world than in Washington] live in an
alien [to normal people who are the vast majority]
weltanschauung/valence where there are no givens or
certainties, but everything is conditional, tentative, and
provisional.

One of the premiere business analysts and industrial
sociologists of our time, Rosabeth Moss Kantor, has done
extensive research on this point, and devotes a chapter in
her book _Men and Women of the Corporation_ to this
situation. This book is highly recommended if you want to
see how and why things have gone so wrong.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=rdr_ext_...0Moss%20Kanter

http://drfd.hbs.edu/fit/public/facul...acEmId=rkanter

While the politicians' language appears to be the common
vernacular [i.e. American English], the extreme differences
in weltanschauung/valence make any sort of meaningful
relationship or communication between the "politicians" and
the vast majority of [normal] people very difficult.
Indeed, on a personal level this appears to account for the
very high levels of divorce, and dysfunctional families,
evidenced by top-level politicians in both government and
industry.

It should be noted that loss of belief in a "determinable
continuity," and/or "cause and effect, is a classic
symptom/precursor to serious mental illness including
paranoid schizophrenia and sociopathy. This reinforces the
increasingly common observation that America's problems at
the bottom are *NOT* financial, but rather are due to the
psychopathology of our business and political "leadership."


Or not. Maybe at the heart of America's problems is nothing more than
what's wrong with the American people themselves. Look, the "people"
voted for Bush and the republicans to lead the country, not once but
twice. So obviously the people wanted what the republicans were
offering. I thought that was a sign of insanity and it would lead to
disaster.

I was right, and Bush did lead the country into a fiasco. So after the
disaster the country comes to its senses and finally kicks out the pro
business republicans. This time they vote for a liberal Democrat whose
goal is to change the focus of the government from standing aside as
business ran the show and helping the people at the top as much as they
possibly could, to doing all it can to help the middle and lower classes.

Obama sets out to fulfill his agenda and it's fought tooth and nail by
the people who nearly ruined the country. Even so, Obama gets as much
accomplished as possible considering the level of opposition by the
right wing. So now we have the mid-term elections and what do the people
want? It seems they are not happy that Obama hasn't brought back
prosperity from the deep hole we were in within two years so they're mad
at him. Now they want to "send a message" and kick out the Democrats and
put the republicans back in power. The same people whose policies
created the problems in the first place. How that can be seen as
anything other than stupid is beyond me.

So you need look no further than at the American voters to see who's to
blame for our problems. It's their fault. They vote in incompetent
republicans and when they fail they put in Democrats and even if they
get good leaders they want to kick them out because they haven't made
things better fast enough to suit them. Ultimately the problem with
America is Americans. They're too stupid to do the right thing. We see
how ignorant they are in the new poll about religion where even
religious people can only answer half the questions on the poll
correctly. As Togo said, we have met the enemy and it's us.

Hawke

"Hawke" wrote in message
...
On 9/28/2010 4:27 PM, F. George McDuffee wrote:
On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 13:59:01 -0400, "Steve W."
wrote:

http://www.aurorasentinel.com/opinio...tml?mode=story

Obama is a victim of Bush's failed promises
By CHUCK GREEN

Barack Obama is setting a record-setting number of records during his
first year in office.

Largest budget ever.
Largest deficit ever.
Largest number of broken promises ever.
Most self-serving speeches ever.
Largest number of agenda-setting failures ever.
Fastest dive in popularity ever.
snip
Mr. Green writes well, but because he does not
speak/understand the special dialect/patois of English
called "Politicianese" he has misidentified the foundational
problem, which is that the politicians [there are more of
them in the corporate world than in Washington] live in an
alien [to normal people who are the vast majority]
weltanschauung/valence where there are no givens or
certainties, but everything is conditional, tentative, and
provisional.

One of the premiere business analysts and industrial
sociologists of our time, Rosabeth Moss Kantor, has done
extensive research on this point, and devotes a chapter in
her book _Men and Women of the Corporation_ to this
situation. This book is highly recommended if you want to
see how and why things have gone so wrong.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=rdr_ext_...0Moss%20Kanter

http://drfd.hbs.edu/fit/public/facul...acEmId=rkanter

While the politicians' language appears to be the common
vernacular [i.e. American English], the extreme differences
in weltanschauung/valence make any sort of meaningful
relationship or communication between the "politicians" and
the vast majority of [normal] people very difficult.
Indeed, on a personal level this appears to account for the
very high levels of divorce, and dysfunctional families,
evidenced by top-level politicians in both government and
industry.

It should be noted that loss of belief in a "determinable
continuity," and/or "cause and effect, is a classic
symptom/precursor to serious mental illness including
paranoid schizophrenia and sociopathy. This reinforces the
increasingly common observation that America's problems at
the bottom are *NOT* financial, but rather are due to the
psychopathology of our business and political "leadership."


Or not. Maybe at the heart of America's problems is nothing more than
what's wrong with the American people themselves. Look, the "people" voted
for Bush and the republicans to lead the country, not once but twice. So
obviously the people wanted what the republicans were offering. I thought
that was a sign of insanity and it would lead to disaster.

I was right, and Bush did lead the country into a fiasco. So after the
disaster the country comes to its senses and finally kicks out the pro
business republicans. This time they vote for a liberal Democrat whose
goal is to change the focus of the government from standing aside as
business ran the show and helping the people at the top as much as they
possibly could, to doing all it can to help the middle and lower classes.


Has Obama done anything about the incentives to move manufacturing out of
this country?

RogerN

On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 05:38:10 -0500, "RogerN"
wrote:
snip
Has Obama done anything about the incentives to move manufacturing out of
this country?

RogerN
==========
An excellent question for this NG.

In point of fact, the major responsibility belongs to
Congress as they are tasked with enacting/amending the laws.

Over the last few days, a feeble pro-forma attempt was made
in the Senate to encourage the return of jobs to the U.S.
and discourage their export. As would be expected, while
there was majority support in the Senate, the
extra-constitutional 60 vote super majority requirement
prevented any consideration.

On examination, the major effect of the proposed legislation
would be increased welfare for America's deadbeat tin cup
corporations.

FWIW -- I sent the following email to my Senators and
Representative. While the referenced Senate bill is now
dead, feel free to use any or all of it if you wish to write
to your Congressmen about keeping domestic
employment/production domestic.

------ start of email -----
THE FIRST THING TO DO WHEN YOU ARE IN THE HOLE IS STOP
DIGGING!


http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-s3816/show
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Senate....html?x=0&.v=3


While the proposed legislation to reduce "off-shoring" to
preserve American jobs and thus revive the American economy
is well intentioned, this appears to be yet another futile
effort, when the [non] results of similar prior efforts are
examined. Indeed, on examination, this particular bill
appears to be yet another Congressional "donation" to
America's "tin cup" beggar corporations.

What is suggested is that immediate steps be taken to revise
the IRS code to prevent *ANY* taxpayer subsidies, either tax
deductions for "depreciation" or interest, investment or
"research" tax credits, or direct grants/subsidies for U.S.
domiciled corporations or companies for "investments" made
for plants, machines, research, etc. unless these are sited,
and the operations conducted in the U.S., under U.S. tax
law, employing 95% U.S. citizens, including management.

An extension of this change in policy and regulations to
eliminate U.S. tax payer subsidy and promotion of
"off-shoring," is the drastic tightening of the rules on
"transfer pricing," whereby taxes on the profits from
"off-shoring" and the importation of "off-shore" produced
products are largely evaded, with the profits untaxed until
these are "repatriated," which never occurs until special
provisions are enacted reducing or eliminating the Federal
taxes owed.

To prevent such evasion, the imposition of "unitary
taxation" is suggested whereby the fraction of the U.S.
profits generated worldwide by a transnational corporation,
and on which U.S. taxes are due, are determined by the
fraction of gross sales/business conducted in the U.S. For
example, if a transnational corporation does 80% of their
gross business/sales in the U.S., then it is assumed that
80% of their worldwide net profit was earned in the U.S.,
and their U.S. taxes are calculated accordingly.

Note that none of these proposals limits in any way the
right of corporations to site their production/research
facilities anywhere they wish, nor to import as much of the
production as they wish to the U.S., nor do these limit in
any way the amount of tax benefits/subsidies other
governments may offer for the construction and/or operation
of plants or facilities.

What these proposals will do is to insure that U.S. taxpayer
funds are not used to eliminate U.S. jobs and reduce the
U.S. tax base, and to insure corporations doing business in
the U.S. pay their full share of the cost of running the
U.S. government. Any corporations that feel this is unfair
are free to leave and/or to stop doing business in the U.S.
----- end of email -----


-- Unka George (George McDuffee)
...............................
The past is a foreign country;
they do things differently there.
L. P. Hartley (1895-1972), British author.
The Go-Between, Prologue (1953).

"RogerN" wrote in message
m...

Has Obama done anything about the incentives to move manufacturing out of
this country?

RogerN



An American President COULD turn the economy around and create more jobs
than all other presidents combined...with just four words broadcast on TV.
But, Obammy sure doesn't have the guts, nor did his predecessors. It'll
never happen, it makes too much sense.

Those four words: "BUY AMERICAN-MADE PRODUCTS!"

?
"Buerste" wrote in message
...

"RogerN" wrote in message
m...

Has Obama done anything about the incentives to move manufacturing out of
this country?

RogerN



An American President COULD turn the economy around and create more jobs
than all other presidents combined...with just four words broadcast on TV.
But, Obammy sure doesn't have the guts, nor did his predecessors. It'll
never happen, it makes too much sense.

Those four words: "BUY AMERICAN-MADE PRODUCTS!"


Or you can simply make it unprofitable to send jobs out of the country.
Screw the investors and venture capitol crowd with the china strategy.

Best Regards
Tom.

On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 05:38:10 -0500, RogerN wrote:

Has Obama done anything about the incentives to move manufacturing out of
this country?

I wanna know howcome, after four years of democrat control of Congress,
and two years under a democrat president, they're still blaming Bush
for all their failures.

Is it Bush's fault that Obama escalated the Afghanistan Vietnam?

Is it STILL Bush's fault that after FOUR YEARS of democrat control, we've
still got 12% unemployment?

Can anybody explain to me the mechanism whereby that comes to pass?

Thanks,
Rich

On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 23:07:00 -0700, Hawke
wrote:
snip
As Togo said, we have met the enemy and it's us.
==========
That's Pogo.
http://www.pogopossum.com/

Togo is a country in w. Africa.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Togo

In commercial terms what we have is "bait and switch." Both
parties have a good line of BS, but who ever gets in,
nothing changes [for the better] for the majority of the
citizens. Governmental debt increases, the number/fraction
of governmental employees [now many as nominally private
contract workers] increases, the number of people killed in
the name of the people of the United States increases,
governmental snooping increases, the volume and inanity of
governmental excuses increases, and the
socio-economic/cultural/financial conditions just keep
getting worse.

If elections changed anything, these would be illegal. A
plague on both their houses.


-- Unka George (George McDuffee)
...............................
The past is a foreign country;
they do things differently there.
L. P. Hartley (1895-1972), British author.
The Go-Between, Prologue (1953).

On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 23:07:00 -0700, Hawke wrote:

...As Togo said, we
have met the enemy and it's us.


Pogo, you Liberal nincompoop.

Thanks,
Rich

On 10/1/2010 11:14 AM, Richard the Dreaded Libertarian wrote:
On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 23:07:00 -0700, Hawke wrote:

...As Togo said, we
have met the enemy and it's us.


Pogo, you Liberal nincompoop.

Thanks,
Rich



Sorry if I'm not into cartoons the way childish folks like you are.
Point is the same. But talk about a nincompoop! How many times do you
have to have a point explained to you for you to get it? I've told you
more than once that the Democrats were not in control of congress from
2006 through 2008 even though they had a slim majority. Bush was able to
sustain all his vetos in that period so all the Democrats had was a
majority but no power to advance any agenda or pass any legislation. So
when will you get it that the Democrats were not running the country the
last two years of Bush's presidency? Knowing you you'll never get it.

As for why Bush is still getting blamed it's because the policies he put
in place caused our problems and they have not been completely
obliterated yet. Bush did to the country what Sherman did to Atlanta in
the Civil War. He destroyed it. Atlanta wasn't back to normal is a year
and a half. Bush and the republicans just about destroyed our economy.
It's not back yet. No ****! In case you didn't know it Rome wasn't built
in a day and America won't be built back to its former self in only a
year or two. The damage was too extensive and the hole was too deep. But
I guess you think not much harm was done because you just can't figure
out why we're still having problems. Maybe it's because you're just
really dumb. Everybody else seems to understand it.

Hawke

On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 18:27:47 -0500, F. George McDuffee
wrote:
snip
While the politicians' language appears to be the common
vernacular [i.e. American English], the extreme differences
in weltanschauung/valence make any sort of meaningful
relationship or communication between the "politicians" and
the vast majority of [normal] people very difficult.
Indeed, on a personal level this appears to account for the
very high levels of divorce, and dysfunctional families,
evidenced by top-level politicians in both government and
industry.

It should be noted that loss of belief in a "determinable
continuity," and/or "cause and effect, is a classic
symptom/precursor to serious mental illness including
paranoid schizophrenia and sociopathy. This reinforces the
increasingly common observation that America's problems at
the bottom are *NOT* financial, but rather are due to the
psychopathology of our business and political "leadership."
snip
I have received several emails questioning this assertation.
I have just come across a well written case study that
examines this in some detail. The case is the hostile
take-over of Budweiser by InBev in 2008.

_Dethroning the King: The Hostile Takeover of
Anheuser-Busch, an American Icon_
Julie MacIntosh
ISBN: 978-0-470-59270-0

You can see a review of the book at
http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2010/09/2...-missed-deals/
and can browse chapter 1 at
http://www.wiley.com/WileyCDA/WileyT...470592702.html

available at discount 18.45$US from
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_no...9270-0&x=0&y=0

Be remined there are far more politicians in America's
corporations than in government. Both groups seem to suffer
from the same mental problems.


-- Unka George (George McDuffee)
...............................
The past is a foreign country;
they do things differently there.
L. P. Hartley (1895-1972), British author.
The Go-Between, Prologue (1953).