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Need some 3200 bearings
On 2010-09-14, Gunner Asch wrote:
Im getting ready to replace the bearings in my Hardinge HLV-H threading gearbox and am having a bit of a difficulty finding "3200" bearings online. I keep coming across "double row angular contact" ..which is a bit odd as these appear to be simple single row shielded bearings. Mcmaster has them for not too much. Open, shielded and rubber sealed. $26-29 each Does anyone have a Cheap source and does anyone have a listing of actual bearing numbers that make up the bearings in an Hardinge HLV-H threading gearbox? Id rather not take each assembly apart and toss em into a box...brrr!....I want to buy the bearings, and rebuild each individual cluster and then stick it back into the machine. There may..may be other bearing numbers needed..hence my request for bearing list. Ive not pulled all the clusters out. The two that I have pulled..have gritty bearings..nasty. if you want to sell the lathe, it always helps to have receipts from mcmaster |
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Need some 3200 bearings
On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:02:15 -0500, Ignoramus5013
wrote: On 2010-09-14, Gunner Asch wrote: Im getting ready to replace the bearings in my Hardinge HLV-H threading gearbox and am having a bit of a difficulty finding "3200" bearings online. I keep coming across "double row angular contact" ..which is a bit odd as these appear to be simple single row shielded bearings. Mcmaster has them for not too much. Open, shielded and rubber sealed. $26-29 each $28 each????? For those little bearings? And I need (9) of them? Not bloodly likely. According to the Hardinge Parts List...chuckle... I need: (9) TL-6617 (1) TL-6618 (1) TL-6616 The only bearing I could actually read the number on said it was a 3200. About 1" od, 3/8 ID, metal shielded. Aprox. Gunner Does anyone have a Cheap source and does anyone have a listing of actual bearing numbers that make up the bearings in an Hardinge HLV-H threading gearbox? Id rather not take each assembly apart and toss em into a box...brrr!....I want to buy the bearings, and rebuild each individual cluster and then stick it back into the machine. There may..may be other bearing numbers needed..hence my request for bearing list. Ive not pulled all the clusters out. The two that I have pulled..have gritty bearings..nasty. if you want to sell the lathe, it always helps to have receipts from mcmaster I am the Sword of my Family and the Shield of my Nation. If sent, I will crush everything you have built, burn everything you love, and kill every one of you. (Hebrew quote) |
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Need some 3200 bearings
On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 15:24:46 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote: On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:02:15 -0500, Ignoramus5013 wrote: On 2010-09-14, Gunner Asch wrote: Im getting ready to replace the bearings in my Hardinge HLV-H threading gearbox and am having a bit of a difficulty finding "3200" bearings online. I keep coming across "double row angular contact" ..which is a bit odd as these appear to be simple single row shielded bearings. Mcmaster has them for not too much. Open, shielded and rubber sealed. $26-29 each $28 each????? For those little bearings? And I need (9) of them? Not bloodly likely. According to the Hardinge Parts List...chuckle... I need: (9) TL-6617 (1) TL-6618 (1) TL-6616 The only bearing I could actually read the number on said it was a 3200. About 1" od, 3/8 ID, metal shielded. Aprox. 3200 is an obsolete New Departure number for a plain-jane 10x30x9mm 6200 bearing. 6200ZZ is double shielded. About $2.50 to $6.00 depending on brand. Email an RFQ to Motion Industries -- they show a couple hundred in stock. -- Ned Simmons |
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Need some 3200 bearings
Ned Simmons wrote in
: 3200 is an obsolete New Departure number for a plain-jane 10x30x9mm 6200 bearing. 6200ZZ is double shielded. About $2.50 to $6.00 depending on brand. Email an RFQ to Motion Industries -- they show a couple hundred in stock. Almost. 3200 is 14.3 wide. 6200 is 9 wide. This is probably a substitution I would make but a bit of time making shaft and housing spacers the trade off for a more common bearing. |
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Need some 3200 bearings
On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 01:55:19 GMT, Charles U Farley
wrote: Ned Simmons wrote in : 3200 is an obsolete New Departure number for a plain-jane 10x30x9mm 6200 bearing. 6200ZZ is double shielded. About $2.50 to $6.00 depending on brand. Email an RFQ to Motion Industries -- they show a couple hundred in stock. Almost. 3200 is 14.3 wide. 6200 is 9 wide. This is probably a substitution I would make but a bit of time making shaft and housing spacers the trade off for a more common bearing. The 14mm wide bearing is a double row angular contact bearing, Gunner says he has a single row conrad bearing. In addition to ND using 3200, other mfrs have used 200, 1200, and 43200 as part numbers for the 6200. -- Ned Simmons |
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Need some 3200 bearings
On 2010-09-15, Ned Simmons wrote:
On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 15:24:46 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:02:15 -0500, Ignoramus5013 wrote: On 2010-09-14, Gunner Asch wrote: Im getting ready to replace the bearings in my Hardinge HLV-H threading gearbox and am having a bit of a difficulty finding "3200" bearings online. I keep coming across "double row angular contact" ..which is a bit odd as these appear to be simple single row shielded bearings. Mcmaster has them for not too much. Open, shielded and rubber sealed. $26-29 each $28 each????? For those little bearings? And I need (9) of them? Not bloodly likely. According to the Hardinge Parts List...chuckle... I need: (9) TL-6617 (1) TL-6618 (1) TL-6616 The only bearing I could actually read the number on said it was a 3200. About 1" od, 3/8 ID, metal shielded. Aprox. 3200 is an obsolete New Departure number for a plain-jane 10x30x9mm 6200 bearing. 6200ZZ is double shielded. About $2.50 to $6.00 depending on brand. 3200 is 14.3 millimeter wide. i Email an RFQ to Motion Industries -- they show a couple hundred in stock. |
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Need some 3200 bearings
On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 21:32:55 -0500, Ignoramus5013
wrote: On 2010-09-15, Ned Simmons wrote: 3200 is an obsolete New Departure number for a plain-jane 10x30x9mm 6200 bearing. 6200ZZ is double shielded. About $2.50 to $6.00 depending on brand. 3200 is 14.3 millimeter wide. Nope, a 3200 double row angular contact bearing is equal to a 5200 and 14.3mm wide. A New Departure 3200 single row conrad (deep groove) bearing is 9mm wide and the same as a 6200. -- Ned Simmons |
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Need some 3200 bearings
On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 20:23:16 -0400, Ned Simmons wrote:
On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 15:24:46 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:02:15 -0500, Ignoramus5013 wrote: On 2010-09-14, Gunner Asch wrote: Im getting ready to replace the bearings in my Hardinge HLV-H threading gearbox and am having a bit of a difficulty finding "3200" bearings online. I keep coming across "double row angular contact" ..which is a bit odd as these appear to be simple single row shielded bearings. Mcmaster has them for not too much. Open, shielded and rubber sealed. $26-29 each $28 each????? For those little bearings? And I need (9) of them? Not bloodly likely. According to the Hardinge Parts List...chuckle... I need: (9) TL-6617 (1) TL-6618 (1) TL-6616 The only bearing I could actually read the number on said it was a 3200. About 1" od, 3/8 ID, metal shielded. Aprox. 3200 is an obsolete New Departure number for a plain-jane 10x30x9mm 6200 bearing. 6200ZZ is double shielded. About $2.50 to $6.00 depending on brand. Email an RFQ to Motion Industries -- they show a couple hundred in stock. Many many thanks!!! I was wondering why I couldnt find any data on the 3200 bearing..other than "double row angular contact"......and they were simply way way too small for being them. Ill pick up 10 of the $2.50 bearings. I should be able to buy a stack of em cheap. Something tells me Ive already got a tube of them "somewhere"...but where..that is indeed the question. Shrug..for $25..Im golden. The remaining two bearings...No idea of what they are..or even where in the gear box they are. While its a moderately simple gear box...one has to stuff 3 shafts in at the same time and get everything lined up..then tap the end bearings on one end in place..with luck before you can even think about installing the end plate. Ill try Thompson Industrial or even Ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/10-6200-ZZ-Z-Pre...-/370258701952 Think these are good enough? Tons of 6200 bearings on ebay. I suppose rubber shielded would be ok as well? Gunner I am the Sword of my Family and the Shield of my Nation. If sent, I will crush everything you have built, burn everything you love, and kill every one of you. (Hebrew quote) |
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Need some 3200 bearings
On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 01:55:19 GMT, Charles U Farley
wrote: Ned Simmons wrote in : 3200 is an obsolete New Departure number for a plain-jane 10x30x9mm 6200 bearing. 6200ZZ is double shielded. About $2.50 to $6.00 depending on brand. Email an RFQ to Motion Industries -- they show a couple hundred in stock. Almost. 3200 is 14.3 wide. 6200 is 9 wide. This is probably a substitution I would make but a bit of time making shaft and housing spacers the trade off for a more common bearing. My bearings are 9mm wide. Gunner I am the Sword of my Family and the Shield of my Nation. If sent, I will crush everything you have built, burn everything you love, and kill every one of you. (Hebrew quote) |
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Need some 3200 bearings
On 2010-09-15, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 20:23:16 -0400, Ned Simmons wrote: On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 15:24:46 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:02:15 -0500, Ignoramus5013 wrote: On 2010-09-14, Gunner Asch wrote: Im getting ready to replace the bearings in my Hardinge HLV-H threading gearbox and am having a bit of a difficulty finding "3200" bearings online. I keep coming across "double row angular contact" ..which is a bit odd as these appear to be simple single row shielded bearings. Mcmaster has them for not too much. Open, shielded and rubber sealed. $26-29 each $28 each????? For those little bearings? And I need (9) of them? Not bloodly likely. According to the Hardinge Parts List...chuckle... I need: (9) TL-6617 (1) TL-6618 (1) TL-6616 The only bearing I could actually read the number on said it was a 3200. About 1" od, 3/8 ID, metal shielded. Aprox. 3200 is an obsolete New Departure number for a plain-jane 10x30x9mm 6200 bearing. 6200ZZ is double shielded. About $2.50 to $6.00 depending on brand. Email an RFQ to Motion Industries -- they show a couple hundred in stock. Many many thanks!!! I was wondering why I couldnt find any data on the 3200 bearing..other than "double row angular contact"......and they were simply way way too small for being them. Ill pick up 10 of the $2.50 bearings. I should be able to buy a stack of em cheap. Something tells me Ive already got a tube of them "somewhere"...but where..that is indeed the question. Shrug..for $25..Im golden. The remaining two bearings...No idea of what they are..or even where in the gear box they are. While its a moderately simple gear box...one has to stuff 3 shafts in at the same time and get everything lined up..then tap the end bearings on one end in place..with luck before you can even think about installing the end plate. Ill try Thompson Industrial or even Ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/10-6200-ZZ-Z-Pre...-/370258701952 Think these are good enough? http://cgi.ebay.com/10-6200-2RS-RS-S...-/380267913957 good enough to sell the HLV-H on ebay Tons of 6200 bearings on ebay. I suppose rubber shielded would be ok as well? Gunner I am the Sword of my Family and the Shield of my Nation. If sent, I will crush everything you have built, burn everything you love, and kill every one of you. (Hebrew quote) |
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Need some 3200 bearings
On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 21:44:27 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote: On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 20:23:16 -0400, Ned Simmons wrote: On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 15:24:46 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:02:15 -0500, Ignoramus5013 wrote: On 2010-09-14, Gunner Asch wrote: Im getting ready to replace the bearings in my Hardinge HLV-H threading gearbox and am having a bit of a difficulty finding "3200" bearings online. I keep coming across "double row angular contact" ..which is a bit odd as these appear to be simple single row shielded bearings. Mcmaster has them for not too much. Open, shielded and rubber sealed. $26-29 each $28 each????? For those little bearings? And I need (9) of them? Not bloodly likely. According to the Hardinge Parts List...chuckle... I need: (9) TL-6617 (1) TL-6618 (1) TL-6616 The only bearing I could actually read the number on said it was a 3200. About 1" od, 3/8 ID, metal shielded. Aprox. 3200 is an obsolete New Departure number for a plain-jane 10x30x9mm 6200 bearing. 6200ZZ is double shielded. About $2.50 to $6.00 depending on brand. Email an RFQ to Motion Industries -- they show a couple hundred in stock. Many many thanks!!! I was wondering why I couldnt find any data on the 3200 bearing..other than "double row angular contact"......and they were simply way way too small for being them. I got the cross out of a bearing interchange manual that I've had since about 1977. New Departure doesn't exist as a manufacturer any more, but they tended to use odd nomenclature. They also made a lot of oddball bearings that are difficult and/or expensive to source these days. Ill pick up 10 of the $2.50 bearings. I should be able to buy a stack of em cheap. Something tells me Ive already got a tube of them "somewhere"...but where..that is indeed the question. Shrug..for $25..Im golden. The remaining two bearings...No idea of what they are..or even where in the gear box they are. While its a moderately simple gear box...one has to stuff 3 shafts in at the same time and get everything lined up..then tap the end bearings on one end in place..with luck before you can even think about installing the end plate. Ill try Thompson Industrial or even Ebay. I thought sure you'd rise to my bait. ("Email an RFQ to Motion Industries...") g http://cgi.ebay.com/10-6200-ZZ-Z-Pre...-/370258701952 Think these are good enough? I'd think so. Unless you do an awful lot of threading the bearings are more likely to go bad from sitting and collecting crud than from wearing out. -- Ned Simmons |
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Need some 3200 bearings
On 9/14/2010 11:44 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 20:23:16 -0400, Ned wrote: On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 15:24:46 -0700, Gunner wrote: On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:02:15 -0500, Ignoramus5013 wrote: On 2010-09-14, Gunner wrote: Im getting ready to replace the bearings in my Hardinge HLV-H threading gearbox and am having a bit of a difficulty finding "3200" bearings online. I keep coming across "double row angular contact" ..which is a bit odd as these appear to be simple single row shielded bearings. Mcmaster has them for not too much. Open, shielded and rubber sealed. $26-29 each $28 each????? For those little bearings? And I need (9) of them? Not bloodly likely. According to the Hardinge Parts List...chuckle... I need: (9) TL-6617 (1) TL-6618 (1) TL-6616 The only bearing I could actually read the number on said it was a 3200. About 1" od, 3/8 ID, metal shielded. Aprox. 3200 is an obsolete New Departure number for a plain-jane 10x30x9mm 6200 bearing. 6200ZZ is double shielded. About $2.50 to $6.00 depending on brand. Email an RFQ to Motion Industries -- they show a couple hundred in stock. Many many thanks!!! I was wondering why I couldnt find any data on the 3200 bearing..other than "double row angular contact"......and they were simply way way too small for being them. Ill pick up 10 of the $2.50 bearings. I should be able to buy a stack of em cheap. Something tells me Ive already got a tube of them "somewhere"...but where..that is indeed the question. Shrug..for $25..Im golden. The remaining two bearings...No idea of what they are..or even where in the gear box they are. While its a moderately simple gear box...one has to stuff 3 shafts in at the same time and get everything lined up..then tap the end bearings on one end in place..with luck before you can even think about installing the end plate. Ill try Thompson Industrial or even Ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/10-6200-ZZ-Z-Pre...-/370258701952 Think these are good enough? Tons of 6200 bearings on ebay. Isn't that the bearing used in skateboards and inline skates? -- I can see November from my front porch |
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Need some 3200 bearings
On 2010-09-15, RBnDFW wrote:
On 9/14/2010 11:44 PM, Gunner Asch wrote: On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 20:23:16 -0400, Ned wrote: On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 15:24:46 -0700, Gunner wrote: On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:02:15 -0500, Ignoramus5013 wrote: On 2010-09-14, Gunner wrote: Im getting ready to replace the bearings in my Hardinge HLV-H threading gearbox and am having a bit of a difficulty finding "3200" bearings online. I keep coming across "double row angular contact" ..which is a bit odd as these appear to be simple single row shielded bearings. Mcmaster has them for not too much. Open, shielded and rubber sealed. $26-29 each $28 each????? For those little bearings? And I need (9) of them? Not bloodly likely. According to the Hardinge Parts List...chuckle... I need: (9) TL-6617 (1) TL-6618 (1) TL-6616 The only bearing I could actually read the number on said it was a 3200. About 1" od, 3/8 ID, metal shielded. Aprox. 3200 is an obsolete New Departure number for a plain-jane 10x30x9mm 6200 bearing. 6200ZZ is double shielded. About $2.50 to $6.00 depending on brand. Email an RFQ to Motion Industries -- they show a couple hundred in stock. Many many thanks!!! I was wondering why I couldnt find any data on the 3200 bearing..other than "double row angular contact"......and they were simply way way too small for being them. Ill pick up 10 of the $2.50 bearings. I should be able to buy a stack of em cheap. Something tells me Ive already got a tube of them "somewhere"...but where..that is indeed the question. Shrug..for $25..Im golden. The remaining two bearings...No idea of what they are..or even where in the gear box they are. While its a moderately simple gear box...one has to stuff 3 shafts in at the same time and get everything lined up..then tap the end bearings on one end in place..with luck before you can even think about installing the end plate. Ill try Thompson Industrial or even Ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/10-6200-ZZ-Z-Pre...-/370258701952 Think these are good enough? Tons of 6200 bearings on ebay. Isn't that the bearing used in skateboards and inline skates? Those are 608s. i |
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Need some 3200 bearings
Or here's some Nachi bearings made in Japan, item # 360244514608
Significantly more than the others, but still cheaper than the $10 VXB bearings... Jon |
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