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Over the weekend I was doing a bit of work involving some Powerstrut and 3/8" all-thread hanger rod. I bought 5 10' lengths of the all-thread and was happily cutting 48" lengths and assembling with coupling nuts and Powerstrut spring nuts. I went to start assembling one section and the nut wouldn't thread on. Expecting to find a burr left from cutting the all-thread with a Sawzall, I looked closer, slowly turning the all-thread looking for the burred or mashed thread start. After a couple revolutions without finding the thread start, I looked even closer, putting a fingernail in a grove and rotating the all-thread. More rotation and my fingernail was not moving axially. Somehow, this 10' length of all-thread had a wee little mishap in the thread roller and it rolled a nice series of groves - no helix at all. Impressive, and good quality control. |
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"Pete C." wrote in message ster.com... Over the weekend I was doing a bit of work involving some Powerstrut and 3/8" all-thread hanger rod. I bought 5 10' lengths of the all-thread and was happily cutting 48" lengths and assembling with coupling nuts and Powerstrut spring nuts. I went to start assembling one section and the nut wouldn't thread on. Expecting to find a burr left from cutting the all-thread with a Sawzall, I looked closer, slowly turning the all-thread looking for the burred or mashed thread start. After a couple revolutions without finding the thread start, I looked even closer, putting a fingernail in a grove and rotating the all-thread. More rotation and my fingernail was not moving axially. Somehow, this 10' length of all-thread had a wee little mishap in the thread roller and it rolled a nice series of groves - no helix at all. Impressive, and good quality control. You'll find that from time to time in boxes of common machine screws, too. I used to collect them, until I realized there was no good reason for it. -- Ed Huntress |
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Ed Huntress wrote: "Pete C." wrote in message ster.com... Over the weekend I was doing a bit of work involving some Powerstrut and 3/8" all-thread hanger rod. I bought 5 10' lengths of the all-thread and was happily cutting 48" lengths and assembling with coupling nuts and Powerstrut spring nuts. I went to start assembling one section and the nut wouldn't thread on. Expecting to find a burr left from cutting the all-thread with a Sawzall, I looked closer, slowly turning the all-thread looking for the burred or mashed thread start. After a couple revolutions without finding the thread start, I looked even closer, putting a fingernail in a grove and rotating the all-thread. More rotation and my fingernail was not moving axially. Somehow, this 10' length of all-thread had a wee little mishap in the thread roller and it rolled a nice series of groves - no helix at all. Impressive, and good quality control. You'll find that from time to time in boxes of common machine screws, too. I used to collect them, until I realized there was no good reason for it. I've seen assorted screwed up ordinary screws before, but never a 10' long one. |
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On 8/11/2010 8:55 AM, Ed Huntress wrote:
You'll find that from time to time in boxes of common machine screws, too. I used to collect them, until I realized there was no good reason for it. When I worked at NASA Ames, the fellow that ran the AN hardware crib had the most amazing collection of hardware with just about every conceivable manufacturing goof represented. Jon |
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"Pete C." wrote:
More rotation and my fingernail was not moving axially. Somehow, this 10' length of all-thread had a wee little mishap in the thread roller and it rolled a nice series of groves - no helix at all. Impressive, and good quality control. I spent close to half an hour once running 1 1/4" pipe that just would not connect to the next one in the string. Long lengths of pipe are shipped with a coupler on one end so you can just put them up. Finally, I take the coupler off on the far end of the pipe with the idea of chasing it since there may be a burr. Looking down the hole, I saw left and right hand threads. Someone had to have had a strange sense of humor to pull that chit. Where would a left hand right hand coupler ever be used? If it hadn't happened to me, I'd call bullchit on this. Wes -- "Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller |
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On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 11:45:01 -0500, "Pete C."
wrote: Over the weekend I was doing a bit of work involving some Powerstrut and 3/8" all-thread hanger rod. I bought 5 10' lengths of the all-thread and was happily cutting 48" lengths and assembling with coupling nuts and Powerstrut spring nuts. I went to start assembling one section and the nut wouldn't thread on. Expecting to find a burr left from cutting the all-thread with a Sawzall, I looked closer, slowly turning the all-thread looking for the burred or mashed thread start. After a couple revolutions without finding the thread start, I looked even closer, putting a fingernail in a grove and rotating the all-thread. More rotation and my fingernail was not moving axially. Somehow, this 10' length of all-thread had a wee little mishap in the thread roller and it rolled a nice series of groves - no helix at all. Impressive, and good quality control. Ran into that once before in the supply bins at the maintenance garage (my favorite scrounge supply at work). The garage supervisor had a lot of fun with it at the expense of his supplier - they couldn't come up with a nut for it! Gerry :-)} London, Canada |
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On Aug 11, 7:03*pm, Wes wrote:
"Pete C." wrote: More rotation and my fingernail was not moving axially. Somehow, this 10' length of all-thread had a wee little mishap in the thread roller and it rolled a nice series of groves - no helix at all. Impressive, and good quality control. I spent close to half an hour once running 1 1/4" pipe that just would not connect to the next one in the string. *Long lengths of pipe are shipped with a coupler on one end so you can just put them up. Finally, I take the *coupler off on the far end of the pipe with the idea of chasing it since there may be a burr. *Looking down the hole, I saw left and right hand threads. Someone had to have had a strange sense of humor to pull that chit. * Where would a left hand right hand coupler ever be used? *If it hadn't happened to me, I'd call bullchit on this. Wes -- "Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home in their eyes." *Dick Anthony Heller New York subways use left-hand-threaded light bulbs to prevent theft. |
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On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 11:45:01 -0500, "Pete C."
wrote: Over the weekend I was doing a bit of work involving some Powerstrut and 3/8" all-thread hanger rod. I bought 5 10' lengths of the all-thread and was happily cutting 48" lengths and assembling with coupling nuts and Powerstrut spring nuts. I went to start assembling one section and the nut wouldn't thread on. Expecting to find a burr left from cutting the all-thread with a Sawzall, I looked closer, slowly turning the all-thread looking for the burred or mashed thread start. After a couple revolutions without finding the thread start, I looked even closer, putting a fingernail in a grove and rotating the all-thread. More rotation and my fingernail was not moving axially. Somehow, this 10' length of all-thread had a wee little mishap in the thread roller and it rolled a nice series of groves - no helix at all. Impressive, and good quality control. ROFLMAO!!! A guy I know once bought 16 head bolts when rebuilding his truck engine. half of them were just as you described. "A conservative who doesn't believe? in God simply doesn't pray; a godless liberal wants no one to pray. A conservative who doesn't like guns doesn't buy one; a liberal gun-hater wants to disarm us all. A gay conservative has sex his own way; a gay liberal requires us all to watch and accept his perversion and have it taught to children. A conservative who is offended by a radio show changes the station; an offended liberal wants it banned, prosecuted and persecuted." Bobby XD9 |
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Wes wrote:
"Pete C." wrote: More rotation and my fingernail was not moving axially. Somehow, this 10' length of all-thread had a wee little mishap in the thread roller and it rolled a nice series of groves - no helix at all. Impressive, and good quality control. I spent close to half an hour once running 1 1/4" pipe that just would not connect to the next one in the string. Long lengths of pipe are shipped with a coupler on one end so you can just put them up. Finally, I take the coupler off on the far end of the pipe with the idea of chasing it since there may be a burr. Looking down the hole, I saw left and right hand threads. Someone had to have had a strange sense of humor to pull that chit. Where would a left hand right hand coupler ever be used? If it hadn't happened to me, I'd call bullchit on this. Wes Reverse threaded couplers are used when you have two pipes that are installed and cannot be rotated easily. You thread one with left hand threads so that the coupler can be installed easily. The coupler will connect up fine and join both pipes without needing to move either one. -- Steve W. (\___/) (='.'=) (")_(") |
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On 2010-08-11, Wes wrote:
"Pete C." wrote: More rotation and my fingernail was not moving axially. Somehow, this 10' length of all-thread had a wee little mishap in the thread roller and it rolled a nice series of groves - no helix at all. Impressive, and good quality control. I spent close to half an hour once running 1 1/4" pipe that just would not connect to the next one in the string. Long lengths of pipe are shipped with a coupler on one end so you can just put them up. Finally, I take the coupler off on the far end of the pipe with the idea of chasing it since there may be a burr. Looking down the hole, I saw left and right hand threads. Someone had to have had a strange sense of humor to pull that chit. Where would a left hand right hand coupler ever be used? If it hadn't happened to me, I'd call bullchit on this. When making the final joint in pipes which are already mounted at the other ends. You need a corresponding left-hand thread in the pipe of course, but then you just separate the pipe ends a little, put the coupler in between, and by turning it in one direction you tighten it on both pipes. Of course there are flange couplers which can be used in such situations most of the time -- but if you don't have room for one, this is the answer. Enjoy, DoN. -- Remove oil spill source from e-mail Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 19:03:59 -0400, Wes
wrote: "Pete C." wrote: More rotation and my fingernail was not moving axially. Somehow, this 10' length of all-thread had a wee little mishap in the thread roller and it rolled a nice series of groves - no helix at all. Impressive, and good quality control. I spent close to half an hour once running 1 1/4" pipe that just would not connect to the next one in the string. Long lengths of pipe are shipped with a coupler on one end so you can just put them up. Finally, I take the coupler off on the far end of the pipe with the idea of chasing it since there may be a burr. Looking down the hole, I saw left and right hand threads. Someone had to have had a strange sense of humor to pull that chit. Where would a left hand right hand coupler ever be used? If it hadn't happened to me, I'd call bullchit on this. That pipe was originally destined for the left side of the Chrysler building, Wes. |
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