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Putting a curve into a sheet metal U channel
I need to put about a 30 degree curve into a piece of sheet metal U channel,
curve needs to have a radius of 100mm. Channel is 75mm wide x 15mm deep with 15mm flanges, made out of .75mm sheet. I dont have access to rollers - not sure how they'd be any use. I've got an hydraulic press brake, plus usual workshop tools. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. |
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Putting a curve into a sheet metal U channel
On Jul 29, 5:40*am, "Why is everyone so cruel"
wrote: I need to put about a 30 degree curve into a piece of sheet metal U channel, curve needs to have a radius of 100mm. Channel is 75mm wide x 15mm deep with 15mm flanges, made out of .75mm sheet. I dont have access to rollers - not sure how they'd be any use. I've got an hydraulic press brake, plus usual workshop tools. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. First ? is- a curve which way? Where the side walls form the inner and outer radii, or where the bottom of the U is the inner or outer radius? Then, U channel as in curved bottom of the U, or flat? ( U vs | _| ) Dave |
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Putting a curve into a sheet metal U channel
"Why is everyone so cruel" wrote in message ond.com... I need to put about a 30 degree curve into a piece of sheet metal U channel, curve needs to have a radius of 100mm. Channel is 75mm wide x 15mm deep with 15mm flanges, made out of .75mm sheet. I dont have access to rollers - not sure how they'd be any use. I've got an hydraulic press brake, plus usual workshop tools. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Is it just one? Fabrication may be easier - cut, weld, grind... |
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Putting a curve into a sheet metal U channel
On Jul 29, 5:40*am, "Why is everyone so cruel"
wrote: I need to put about a 30 degree curve into a piece of sheet metal U channel, curve needs to have a radius of 100mm. ... Look for books on aircraft sheet metal fabrication. jsw |
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Putting a curve into a sheet metal U channel
"Why is everyone so cruel" wrote in message ond.com... I need to put about a 30 degree curve into a piece of sheet metal U channel, curve needs to have a radius of 100mm. Channel is 75mm wide x 15mm deep with 15mm flanges, made out of .75mm sheet. I dont have access to rollers - not sure how they'd be any use. I've got an hydraulic press brake, plus usual workshop tools. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. You left out a really important bit of information........which way it "curves". There are four simple possibilities, of which two are just "handed", and the extreme difference between bending "in" or "out". |
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Putting a curve into a sheet metal U channel
"Why is everyone so cruel" wrote in message ond.com... I need to put about a 30 degree curve into a piece of sheet metal U channel, curve needs to have a radius of 100mm. Channel is 75mm wide x 15mm deep with 15mm flanges, made out of .75mm sheet. I dont have access to rollers - not sure how they'd be any use. I've got an hydraulic press brake, plus usual workshop tools. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. If you are bending the flanges this might work. http://www.amazon.com/Woodward-Fab-S.../dp/B000E3BQHE Bending the other way means fabbing it. Steve |
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Putting a curve into a sheet metal U channel
"Dave__67" wrote in message ... On Jul 29, 5:40 am, "Why is everyone so cruel" wrote: I need to put about a 30 degree curve into a piece of sheet metal U channel, curve needs to have a radius of 100mm. Channel is 75mm wide x 15mm deep with 15mm flanges, made out of .75mm sheet. I dont have access to rollers - not sure how they'd be any use. I've got an hydraulic press brake, plus usual workshop tools. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. First ? is- a curve which way? Where the side walls form the inner and outer radii, or where the bottom of the U is the inner or outer radius? Then, U channel as in curved bottom of the U, or flat? ( U vs | _| ) As Simpson says "DOH" The curve is across the open top of the U, The flanges to be welded onto adjacent steel with the curve. Dave |
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Putting a curve into a sheet metal U channel
On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 05:29:12 +1000, Why is everyone so cruel wrote:
"Dave__67" wrote On Jul 29, 5:40 am, "Why is everyone so cruel" wrote: I need to put about a 30 degree curve into a piece of sheet metal U channel, curve needs to have a radius of 100mm. Channel is 75mm wide x 15mm deep with 15mm flanges, made out of .75mm sheet. I dont have access to rollers - not sure how they'd be any use. I've got an hydraulic press brake, plus usual workshop tools. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. First ? is- a curve which way? Where the side walls form the inner and outer radii, or where the bottom of the U is the inner or outer radius? [snip] I added a layer of marks. (You should make your newsreader indicate quotes by adding markers at left of quoted lines.) As Simpson says "DOH" The curve is across the open top of the U, The flanges to be welded onto adjacent steel with the curve. Your answer isn't perfectly clear to me, but I'm assuming the axis of the bend is perpendicular to the long axis of the channel and that the channel has a flat bottom 75mm wide which will bend "the easy way", while the 15mm sides are bending "the hard way" and in compression. How much crumpling of the sides can you tolerate? Crumpling will be hard to avoid unless you have a tight-fitting steel die outside the channel, and a tight-fitting 100mm-radius steel former inside the channel, to form the bend on your press. If you make the die and former with thick MDF, some crumpling probably would occur but might be tolerable. If you will be welding along the flanges anyway, you could cross cut them half a dozen times in the bend region and then hand bend the base of the channel to the right radius. -- jiw |
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Putting a curve into a sheet metal U channel
On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 05:29:12 +1000, "Why is everyone so cruel"
wrote the following: "Dave__67" wrote in message ... On Jul 29, 5:40 am, "Why is everyone so cruel" wrote: I need to put about a 30 degree curve into a piece of sheet metal U channel, curve needs to have a radius of 100mm. The curve is across the open top of the U, The flanges to be welded onto adjacent steel with the curve. So, endwise, the channel is ___ ___ , not a plain U or J channel? |__| I was going to suggest a metal stretcher, but it would only stretch the flanges and your radius might be too tight for that. I wonder if you could rig a ring/band roller to do those. You'd probably need something fit inside the U to keep it from collapsing, and to hold up the flanges. -- It is pretty hard to tell what does bring happiness; poverty and wealth have both failed. -- Kin Hubbard |
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Putting a curve into a sheet metal U channel
On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:40:18 +1000, "Why is everyone so cruel"
wrote: I need to put about a 30 degree curve into a piece of sheet metal U channel, curve needs to have a radius of 100mm. Channel is 75mm wide x 15mm deep with 15mm flanges, made out of .75mm sheet. I dont have access to rollers - not sure how they'd be any use. I've got an hydraulic press brake, plus usual workshop tools. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. I would ask; what is this to be used for? Maybe there is a better solution. |
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