"Buerste" wrote:

What do you think it'll take to get us back up and running, another Bush
or some other republican with the same policies he had?



Hawke

No, Bush is a liberal. I want a leader for a change with the interests of
the ENTIRE population in mind, not just the rich or whoever Obammy
represents.


Sarah, Jindal, even Newt. Haley Babour might be a dark horse, though a bit moderate. Ed
is screaming right now.

Wes

"Wes" wrote in message
...
"Buerste" wrote:

What do you think it'll take to get us back up and running, another Bush
or some other republican with the same policies he had?



Hawke

No, Bush is a liberal. I want a leader for a change with the interests of
the ENTIRE population in mind, not just the rich or whoever Obammy
represents.


Sarah, Jindal, even Newt. Haley Babour might be a dark horse, though a
bit moderate. Ed
is screaming right now.

A Republican candidate that can actually win in 2012 has yet to emerge.
Whoever that is will have their hands full unless Obama manages to get 3000
New Yorkers slaughtered and then start two wars - lost causes both - the way
Bush did in what remains of his first term.

That hardly seems likely and you can bet that the economic numbers for
2007/2008 will be front and center.
There isn't much argument that Americans hold the last administration in low
regard due entirely to the results produced and not party politics.

It will be interesting to observe corporate and union participation.
Unlimited campaign contributions might not be the blessing some percieve it
to be.

JC

On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 15:51:35 -0700, "John R. Carroll"
wrote:

Obama manages to get 3000
New Yorkers slaughtered and then start two wars - lost causes both - the way
Bush did

So Bush did it eh?

Odd..everyone who actually knows anything, knows that the policies of
the 2 terms of the Clinton Administration allowed Osama to destroy the
WTC.

Who was it again that split the various intel agencies and didnt let one
know what the other one knew? Oh yeh..one of the Clinton drones..some
chick wasnt it?

Johnboy once again joins Ed in the ranks of the Moderate Democrats.

Pity that the effects of advancing age has treated both of them
so......poorly.


Gunner

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch

"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
news
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 15:51:35 -0700, "John R. Carroll"
wrote:

Obama manages to get 3000
New Yorkers slaughtered and then start two wars - lost causes both - the
way
Bush did

So Bush did it eh?

Odd..everyone who actually knows anything, knows that the policies of
the 2 terms of the Clinton Administration allowed Osama to destroy the
WTC.

Who was it again that split the various intel agencies and didnt let one
know what the other one knew? Oh yeh..one of the Clinton drones..some
chick wasnt it?

Johnboy once again joins Ed in the ranks of the Moderate Democrats.

That's moderate *Republican*, Mr. Buddhist Libretardian.


Pity that the effects of advancing age has treated both of them
so......poorly.

But oh, so much better than having a stroke. The stroke seems to have
improved your disposition, however.

--
Ed Huntress

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...

"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
news
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 15:51:35 -0700, "John R. Carroll"
wrote:

Obama manages to get 3000
New Yorkers slaughtered and then start two wars - lost causes both - the
way
Bush did

So Bush did it eh?

Odd..everyone who actually knows anything, knows that the policies of
the 2 terms of the Clinton Administration allowed Osama to destroy the
WTC.

Who was it again that split the various intel agencies and didnt let one
know what the other one knew? Oh yeh..one of the Clinton drones..some
chick wasnt it?

Johnboy once again joins Ed in the ranks of the Moderate Democrats.

That's moderate *Republican*, Mr. Buddhist Libretardian.


Pity that the effects of advancing age has treated both of them
so......poorly.

But oh, so much better than having a stroke. The stroke seems to have
improved your disposition, however.

Ahlziemers will no doubt perfect his attitude.

I've been on the road continuously since June 23rd and at two this morning
will be in my car headed from the SF Bay area for San Diego, an eight hour
drive that will follow a twenty hour day that was preceeded by a month of
twenty hour days.

I won't even be armed!!!
LMAO

JC

On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:08:31 -0700, "John R. Carroll"
wrote:


I've been on the road continuously since June 23rd and at two this morning
will be in my car headed from the SF Bay area for San Diego, an eight hour
drive that will follow a twenty hour day that was preceeded by a month of
twenty hour days.

I won't even be armed!!!
LMAO

JC

Not armed?!!!

RCM data points:

Walking in Mayberry = .380 or .38
Sitting on ass in Taft = .45 plus backup and a mined yard
Extrapolating above to your situation = recommendation of RPG plus
roof-mounted M82 - minimum! Traveling with anything less will result
in being culled in less than 2 years. Fortunately, the sentence will
still be the same 2 years from now unless the Taft oracle expires
before then (50-50 odds), in which case consider yourself pardoned
regardless.

BTW, my weapon of choice for road trips is a 4.5 caliber GPS/MP3
loaded with a variety of tactical ammunition from reputable makers
such as Leonard Cohen, Lou Reed, Gene Pitney, A3, and the Easy Rider
soundtrack. For backup make sure you have an extra clip of Radar Love.
Oh, and don't forget the volume safety *before* the next restart if
you want to avoid having a heart attack.

Wayne

On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:08:31 -0700, "John R. Carroll"
wrote:



I've been on the road continuously since June 23rd and at two this morning
will be in my car headed from the SF Bay area for San Diego, an eight hour
drive that will follow a twenty hour day that was preceeded by a month of
twenty hour days.

I won't even be armed!!!
LMAO

JC

You know what you can do, but that would be irresponsible for most
people.

On 7/29/2010 2:08 PM, John R. Carroll wrote:
"Ed wrote in message
...

"Gunner wrote in message
news
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 15:51:35 -0700, "John R. Carroll"
wrote:

Obama manages to get 3000
New Yorkers slaughtered and then start two wars - lost causes both - the
way
Bush did

So Bush did it eh?

Odd..everyone who actually knows anything, knows that the policies of
the 2 terms of the Clinton Administration allowed Osama to destroy the
WTC.

Who was it again that split the various intel agencies and didnt let one
know what the other one knew? Oh yeh..one of the Clinton drones..some
chick wasnt it?

Johnboy once again joins Ed in the ranks of the Moderate Democrats.

That's moderate *Republican*, Mr. Buddhist Libretardian.


Pity that the effects of advancing age has treated both of them
so......poorly.

But oh, so much better than having a stroke. The stroke seems to have
improved your disposition, however.

Ahlziemers will no doubt perfect his attitude.

I've been on the road continuously since June 23rd and at two this morning
will be in my car headed from the SF Bay area for San Diego, an eight hour
drive that will follow a twenty hour day that was preceeded by a month of
twenty hour days.

I won't even be armed!!!
LMAO



And you're how old?


Hawke

"John R. Carroll" wrote:

I've been on the road continuously since June 23rd and at two this morning
will be in my car headed from the SF Bay area for San Diego, an eight hour
drive that will follow a twenty hour day that was preceeded by a month of
twenty hour days.

I won't even be armed!!!
LMAO

JC


I *thought* you were retired. Go visit Ed, he will teach you how to go fishing. Sheesh.

Wes
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller

"John R. Carroll" wrote in message
...

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...

"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
news
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 15:51:35 -0700, "John R. Carroll"
wrote:

Obama manages to get 3000
New Yorkers slaughtered and then start two wars - lost causes both - the
way
Bush did

So Bush did it eh?

Odd..everyone who actually knows anything, knows that the policies of
the 2 terms of the Clinton Administration allowed Osama to destroy the
WTC.

Who was it again that split the various intel agencies and didnt let one
know what the other one knew? Oh yeh..one of the Clinton drones..some
chick wasnt it?

Johnboy once again joins Ed in the ranks of the Moderate Democrats.

That's moderate *Republican*, Mr. Buddhist Libretardian.


Pity that the effects of advancing age has treated both of them
so......poorly.

But oh, so much better than having a stroke. The stroke seems to have
improved your disposition, however.

Ahlziemers will no doubt perfect his attitude.

I've been on the road continuously since June 23rd and at two this morning
will be in my car headed from the SF Bay area for San Diego, an eight hour
drive that will follow a twenty hour day that was preceeded by a month of
twenty hour days.

I won't even be armed!!!
LMAO

JC


Given your lack of sleep, I'm kind of glad you aren't armed. g

Did you make it home yet?

--
Ed Huntress

On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:15:17 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:


Johnboy once again joins Ed in the ranks of the Moderate Democrats.

Pity that the effects of advancing age has treated both of them
so......poorly.

Poorly? They're both solvent, employable, and productive - all things
that have escaped your grasp for 4 decades. Also, they're so
accomplished that they're able to pay for their net access! gasp
Imagine that, eh? While you're living day to day, and can't even
afford to put gas in your truck, JC is so flush that he can afford to
throw away grinders.

Gunner

.... whose prospects would be better if he had enough ambition and
vigor to run a paper route. What's it like to realize that you don't
have enough time or energy left to earn your way up to the solvency
level of the average 14 year-old?

Wayne

"John R. Carroll" wrote in message
...

"Wes" wrote in message
...
"Buerste" wrote:

What do you think it'll take to get us back up and running, another
Bush
or some other republican with the same policies he had?



Hawke

No, Bush is a liberal. I want a leader for a change with the interests
of
the ENTIRE population in mind, not just the rich or whoever Obammy
represents.


Sarah, Jindal, even Newt. Haley Babour might be a dark horse, though a
bit moderate. Ed
is screaming right now.

A Republican candidate that can actually win in 2012 has yet to emerge.
Whoever that is will have their hands full unless Obama manages to get
3000 New Yorkers slaughtered and then start two wars - lost causes both -
the way Bush did in what remains of his first term.

That hardly seems likely and you can bet that the economic numbers for
2007/2008 will be front and center.
There isn't much argument that Americans hold the last administration in
low regard due entirely to the results produced and not party politics.

It will be interesting to observe corporate and union participation.
Unlimited campaign contributions might not be the blessing some percieve
it to be.

JC


The country would sooner vote for your dog if you shaved his ass and taught
him to walk backwards, than vote for Obama again. I know that I will not
cast any more of my votes for Obama, ever again.

"Liberal Leroy" wrote in message
...


"John R. Carroll" wrote in message
...

"Wes" wrote in message
...
"Buerste" wrote:

What do you think it'll take to get us back up and running, another
Bush
or some other republican with the same policies he had?



Hawke

No, Bush is a liberal. I want a leader for a change with the interests
of
the ENTIRE population in mind, not just the rich or whoever Obammy
represents.


Sarah, Jindal, even Newt. Haley Babour might be a dark horse, though a
bit moderate. Ed
is screaming right now.

A Republican candidate that can actually win in 2012 has yet to emerge.
Whoever that is will have their hands full unless Obama manages to get
3000 New Yorkers slaughtered and then start two wars - lost causes both -
the way Bush did in what remains of his first term.

That hardly seems likely and you can bet that the economic numbers for
2007/2008 will be front and center.
There isn't much argument that Americans hold the last administration in
low regard due entirely to the results produced and not party politics.

It will be interesting to observe corporate and union participation.
Unlimited campaign contributions might not be the blessing some percieve
it to be.

JC


The country would sooner vote for your dog if you shaved his ass and
taught him to walk backwards, than vote for Obama again.

The country wouldn't have elected him in the first place had the
Republican's not run such an obviously over the hill candidate and his
laboratory assistant.

Who one is going to vote for in November of 2012 is hardly discernable
today.


I know that I will not cast any more of my votes for Obama, ever again.

You might or might not.
2012 is a long way off and in political terms it's not even really on the
radar yet.


JC

"John R. Carroll" wrote in message
...

"Liberal Leroy" wrote in message
...


"John R. Carroll" wrote in message
...

"Wes" wrote in message
...
"Buerste" wrote:

What do you think it'll take to get us back up and running, another
Bush
or some other republican with the same policies he had?



Hawke

No, Bush is a liberal. I want a leader for a change with the interests
of
the ENTIRE population in mind, not just the rich or whoever Obammy
represents.


Sarah, Jindal, even Newt. Haley Babour might be a dark horse, though a
bit moderate. Ed
is screaming right now.

A Republican candidate that can actually win in 2012 has yet to emerge.
Whoever that is will have their hands full unless Obama manages to get
3000 New Yorkers slaughtered and then start two wars - lost causes
both - the way Bush did in what remains of his first term.

That hardly seems likely and you can bet that the economic numbers for
2007/2008 will be front and center.
There isn't much argument that Americans hold the last administration in
low regard due entirely to the results produced and not party politics.

It will be interesting to observe corporate and union participation.
Unlimited campaign contributions might not be the blessing some percieve
it to be.

JC


The country would sooner vote for your dog if you shaved his ass and
taught him to walk backwards, than vote for Obama again.

The country wouldn't have elected him in the first place had the
Republican's not run such an obviously over the hill candidate and his
laboratory assistant.


They won't be electing him again. He's a big liar and imposter. Where's my
flying car, huh?



Who one is going to vote for in November of 2012 is hardly discernable
today.


I know that I will not cast any more of my votes for Obama, ever again.

You might or might not.
2012 is a long way off and in political terms it's not even really on the
radar yet.


I won't. Not even one vote this time. You hear? Not even one.

"John R. Carroll" wrote:

It will be interesting to observe corporate and union participation.
Unlimited campaign contributions might not be the blessing some percieve it
to be.

It will be interesting. 2002 or so I had the experience of working in a union plant
between decent jobs after ET shut down. Come primary time, the lunchroom at work was
filled with Democrat campaign posters and it as assumed we were all going to vote for the
Dems including David Bonier.

I was shocked. I've worked for some hard core Republican firms but never saw
electionering inside those facilities.

Perhaps this just evens the playing ground?

Maybe my thoughts are a carry over from military service, as in we don't do politics at
work.

Wes
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller

"Wes" wrote in message
...
"John R. Carroll" wrote:

It will be interesting to observe corporate and union participation.
Unlimited campaign contributions might not be the blessing some percieve
it
to be.

It will be interesting. 2002 or so I had the experience of working in a
union plant
between decent jobs after ET shut down. Come primary time, the lunchroom
at work was
filled with Democrat campaign posters and it as assumed we were all going
to vote for the
Dems including David Bonier.

I was shocked. I've worked for some hard core Republican firms but never
saw
electionering inside those facilities.

Perhaps this just evens the playing ground?

From my perspective the playing field has become much more exclusive.
It's the ultimate corruption of our democratic process Wes because the
population at large is precluded from taking the field, level or not.


Maybe my thoughts are a carry over from military service, as in we don't
do politics at
work.

I guess we were in different military services. Yours was mythical and only
existed in your own mind.
What I observed was politically oriented as anything you could imagine.
The beginning of the end of any succesful military officer's career starts
with a confirmation hearing....


JC

"John R. Carroll" wrote:

Maybe my thoughts are a carry over from military service, as in we don't
do politics at
work.

I guess we were in different military services. Yours was mythical and only
existed in your own mind.
What I observed was politically oriented as anything you could imagine.
The beginning of the end of any succesful military officer's career starts
with a confirmation hearing....

No, mine was real as I'm sure yours was. There were guidelines on the political. Maybe
that was a double entendre I missed.

What rank did you leave with? Lower ranks, being confirmed, are a formality of sorts?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commiss...#United_States

Wes
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller

On 7/28/2010 3:00 PM, Wes wrote:
wrote:

What do you think it'll take to get us back up and running, another Bush
or some other republican with the same policies he had?



Hawke

No, Bush is a liberal. I want a leader for a change with the interests of
the ENTIRE population in mind, not just the rich or whoever Obammy
represents.


Sarah, Jindal, even Newt. Haley Babour might be a dark horse, though a bit moderate. Ed
is screaming right now.

Wes


Don't you think we should choose which ever of them that will follow
most closely the policies that Bush used when he was in office? Because
they all propose the same things that Bush did. You know how well they
served the country so do you think another round of what Bush did will
turn out differently if one of those people does it?

Hawke