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Information on half-round profile cutters needed.
I am looking for information on half- or quarter- round
profile cutters in small [1/4 inch Ø sizes. I currently plan on using 1/4 inch round X 2 inch HSS blanks rather than 1/4 inch drill rod [silver steel for our UK readers], with the thought that I can grind a circular approximation of the involute curve and make a profile cutter like an end-mill [slot drill]. The full depth of cut for a 1.0 M/M module gear is only 0.085 inches with a flat tip/root space of 0.031 to 0.038 inches so this seems doable. This is part of my ongoing effort to make a complete set of change gears [including 63T for metric transposition] for my lathe. I have managed to locate reasonable priced "drops" of suitable size delrin/acetel and canvas reinforced phenolic [bakelite/formica/micarta/tufnol]. I have also invested in a 0.025 slotting saw and arbor to gash the gear blank and clean most of the material out before using the profile cutter. From what I have learned half-round/single lip profile cutters should be OK with plastics, but what about steel? If I do decide on steel it will most likely be 1018 as one of the listed uses is gears. From a quick internet search it appears that bakelite and nylon/delrin are common materials for lathe change gears. What has the groups experience been with these gears? Any one have experience using this type/size of profile cutter in gear making or on steel? Any suggestions/observations welcome. One enhancement/complication I am considering is making provision of eccentric relief. Anyone have experience with this and if so how much eccentric relief is necessary/desirable? FWIW -- the least expensive B&S style 1.0 M/M module cutters I have been able to locate are 33$US each + S/H and I would also have to buy or make a 2MT arbor to fit the 16 M/M hole. Additionally, my vertical mill is light duty, and a end-mill/slot drill type cutter should put much less stress on it than 2-1/2 inch diameter B&S style cutter with considerable overhang. With a 1/4 Ø 2MT collet I gain considerable headroom. -- Unka George (George McDuffee) ............................... The past is a foreign country; they do things differently there. L. P. Hartley (1895-1972), British author. The Go-Between, Prologue (1953). |
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Information on half-round profile cutters needed.
On Jul 27, 8:20*pm, F. George McDuffee gmcduf...@mcduffee-
associates.us wrote: ... -- Unka George *(George McDuffee) I traded the shorter time to make a single-point cutter for the longer time to use it. This was a reasonable tradeoff for making only one part. Here I cut out most of the tooth space rapidly with the wrong commercial cutter and then finished it with the right home-made one: http://picasaweb.google.com/KB1DAL/H...10360947850418 http://picasaweb.google.com/KB1DAL/H...10370886636434 Why not make less used sizes out of aluminum? You probably aren't going to wear out the gears to cut 27 or 44 TPI and could probably afford to cut the occasional 11-1/2 pipe thread with many light cuts. jsw |
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Information on half-round profile cutters needed.
responding to
http://www.polytechforum.com/metalwo...ed-251478-.htm , daniel wrote: kb1dal wrote: On Jul 27, 8:20=A0pm, F. George McDuffee gmcduf...@mcduffee- associates.us wrote: ... -- Unka George =A0(George McDuffee) I traded the shorter time to make a single-point cutter for the longer time to use it. This was a reasonable tradeoff for making only one part. Here I cut out most of the tooth space rapidly with the wrong commercial cutter and then finished it with the right home-made one: http://picasaweb.google.com/KB1DAL/H...10360947850418 http://picasaweb.google.com/KB1DAL/H...10370886636434 Why not make less used sizes out of aluminum? You probably aren't going to wear out the gears to cut 27 or 44 TPI and could probably afford to cut the occasional 11-1/2 pipe thread with many light cuts. jsw -- Yeah I agree, this is what I would say is best. |
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