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"Bill McKee" wrote

. It also charges
from the sun or welding, but I spent about $8 at Walmart for two more
batteries.


Ain't it ridiculous? You can get a decent watch at a yard sale for a buck,
and then, it's $5 to $8 for a battery.


Those button batteries must be a cash cow. I paid something like 3.99 for two SR44
batteries this winter for my 0-1 and 1-2 Mitutoyo digimic's. Didn't get 6 months before
the B indicator is telling my batteries are almost dead.

It's as big a scam as printer ink. They should GIVE you printers for what
you have to pay for a lifetime of ink for them.


Well if you look at the pricing on printers, they do almost give them to you. I'd rather
pay for the printer and get the ink at a fair price. HP has gone as far as to chip the
cartridges to make sure they die inside the profit projection. There is where a class
action suit needs to happen. That lawnmower motor thing was small time by comparison.

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"Bill McKee" wrote

. It also charges
from the sun or welding, but I spent about $8 at Walmart for two more
batteries.


Ain't it ridiculous? You can get a decent watch at a yard sale for a
buck,
and then, it's $5 to $8 for a battery.


Those button batteries must be a cash cow. I paid something like 3.99 for
two SR44
batteries this winter for my 0-1 and 1-2 Mitutoyo digimic's. Didn't get 6
months before
the B indicator is telling my batteries are almost dead.

It's as big a scam as printer ink. They should GIVE you printers for what
you have to pay for a lifetime of ink for them.


Well if you look at the pricing on printers, they do almost give them to
you. I'd rather
pay for the printer and get the ink at a fair price. HP has gone as far
as to chip the
cartridges to make sure they die inside the profit projection. There is
where a class
action suit needs to happen. That lawnmower motor thing was small time
by comparison.

Wes


I know. They were talking about $35 for the lawnmower thing. I'm thinking
$3500 for the printer thing. Now that's one I'd send in the free postage
reply card to.

Steve


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Those button batteries must be a cash cow. I paid something like 3.99
for two SR44 batteries this winter for my 0-1 and 1-2 Mitutoyo
digimic's. Didn't get 6 months before the B indicator is telling my
batteries are almost dead.


For LR44s I get the magnet-bottomed flex-shafted LED flashlights.

Not only do these come with 3 batteries installed but also provide 3 spares
- all for $2.99 at Wally World. grin That makes the batteries about 50
cents each...

Just be sure to get the ones hanging at the rear of the hook...and that the
"test" lighting actually produces illumination.
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I live in the SF Bay Area. There is a Sunday flea market at Laney
College. There is a dealer who has all kinds of imported things [some
junk] others acceptable. One thing he sells is cards of TEN button cells
for $1.00 for each card. Have used them for years in all kinds of
things. I have even made up 15volt batteries that an old Tripplet meter
uses. Now you know how badly the local drug or variety are ripping us
off. Check out your local FM.

Chuck P.
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On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 19:42:45 -0700, Pilgrim wrote:

I live in the SF Bay Area. There is a Sunday flea market at Laney
College. There is a dealer who has all kinds of imported things [some
junk] others acceptable. One thing he sells is cards of TEN button cells
for $1.00 for each card. Have used them for years in all kinds of
things. I have even made up 15volt batteries that an old Tripplet meter
uses. Now you know how badly the local drug or variety are ripping us
off. Check out your local FM.

Chuck P.



Just a heads up...seriously big difference in LR44 and SR44 batteries.

the chain called 99Cents Only sells 10 LR44s for ...99cents

Only problem is..they only last about 3 months in most digital measuring
devices.

Gunner


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that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
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This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
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On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 01:56:52 +0000 (UTC), "RAM³"
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Wes wrote in
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Those button batteries must be a cash cow. I paid something like 3.99
for two SR44 batteries this winter for my 0-1 and 1-2 Mitutoyo
digimic's. Didn't get 6 months before the B indicator is telling my
batteries are almost dead.


For LR44s I get the magnet-bottomed flex-shafted LED flashlights.

Not only do these come with 3 batteries installed but also provide 3 spares
- all for $2.99 at Wally World. grin That makes the batteries about 50
cents each...

Just be sure to get the ones hanging at the rear of the hook...and that the
"test" lighting actually produces illumination.

Last LR44 batteries I bought were ten for a buck at Dollarama
Gerry :-)}
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On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 01:56:52 +0000 (UTC), the renowned "RAM³"
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Wes wrote in
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Those button batteries must be a cash cow. I paid something like 3.99
for two SR44 batteries this winter for my 0-1 and 1-2 Mitutoyo
digimic's. Didn't get 6 months before the B indicator is telling my
batteries are almost dead.


For LR44s I get the magnet-bottomed flex-shafted LED flashlights.

Not only do these come with 3 batteries installed but also provide 3 spares
- all for $2.99 at Wally World. grin That makes the batteries about 50
cents each...

Just be sure to get the ones hanging at the rear of the hook...and that the
"test" lighting actually produces illumination.


If you're ordering from Digikey anyway, they're about 50 cents each
for 10 (Energizer brand) or less than half that from DXtreme (Gold
Peak brand).

A customer I was doing some design work for in Hong Kong was astounded
to find that it would cost end users more than he sold the whole
product for to buy a set of replacement button cells at retail (they
included a set with the product- actual cost less than a dime
depending on the brand, more for Japanese brand less for Chinese
brand, but all made in China).


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Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 19:42:45 -0700, Pilgrim wrote:

I live in the SF Bay Area. There is a Sunday flea market at Laney
College. There is a dealer who has all kinds of imported things [some
junk] others acceptable. One thing he sells is cards of TEN button cells
for $1.00 for each card. Have used them for years in all kinds of
things. I have even made up 15volt batteries that an old Tripplet meter
uses. Now you know how badly the local drug or variety are ripping us
off. Check out your local FM.

Chuck P.



Just a heads up...seriously big difference in LR44 and SR44 batteries.

the chain called 99Cents Only sells 10 LR44s for ...99cents

Only problem is..they only last about 3 months in most digital measuring
devices.


I bought a bunch of Eveready SR44s for less than a buck each from some
online Mom who had to buy bulk for her kid's medical device.
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On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 07:22:55 -0400, Spehro Pefhany
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On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 01:56:52 +0000 (UTC), the renowned "RAM³"
wrote:

Wes wrote in
:

Those button batteries must be a cash cow. I paid something like 3.99
for two SR44 batteries this winter for my 0-1 and 1-2 Mitutoyo
digimic's. Didn't get 6 months before the B indicator is telling my
batteries are almost dead.


For LR44s I get the magnet-bottomed flex-shafted LED flashlights.

Not only do these come with 3 batteries installed but also provide 3 spares
- all for $2.99 at Wally World. grin That makes the batteries about 50
cents each...

Just be sure to get the ones hanging at the rear of the hook...and that the
"test" lighting actually produces illumination.


If you're ordering from Digikey anyway, they're about 50 cents each
for 10 (Energizer brand) or less than half that from DXtreme (Gold
Peak brand).


LR44s???? Perk! Id stock up on them if they were that cheap.

Gunner


A customer I was doing some design work for in Hong Kong was astounded
to find that it would cost end users more than he sold the whole
product for to buy a set of replacement button cells at retail (they
included a set with the product- actual cost less than a dime
depending on the brand, more for Japanese brand less for Chinese
brand, but all made in China).


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany



"First Law of Leftist Debate
The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost
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On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 20:59:53 -0700, the renowned Gunner Asch
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On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 19:42:45 -0700, Pilgrim wrote:

I live in the SF Bay Area. There is a Sunday flea market at Laney
College. There is a dealer who has all kinds of imported things [some
junk] others acceptable. One thing he sells is cards of TEN button cells
for $1.00 for each card. Have used them for years in all kinds of
things. I have even made up 15volt batteries that an old Tripplet meter
uses. Now you know how badly the local drug or variety are ripping us
off. Check out your local FM.

Chuck P.



Just a heads up...seriously big difference in LR44 and SR44 batteries.

the chain called 99Cents Only sells 10 LR44s for ...99cents


Are they branded GP, Panasonic or something known? Or something like
"Sunbeam"?

Only problem is..they only last about 3 months in most digital measuring
devices.

Gunner


LR44/A76 are Alkaline cells. $5.54 for 10 at Digikey
rated 150 mAh (to 0.9 volts) with a 7.5K load (Energizer brand)
(at 1.2V terminal voltage you'll get only about 75% of that.

SR44/357 are Silver Oxide. $13.87 for 10 at Digikey.
rated 195 mAh (to 1.2 volts) with a 6.5k load (Energizer brand)

If the electronics quits at 1.2V you'd expect around 57% of
the life out of the Alkalines for 40% of the cost.

http://data.energizer.com/PDFs/A76.pdf
http://data.energizer.com/PDFs/357-303H.pdf

But there are probably some pretty lousy generic cells out there where
they cut corners on the energy content etc.


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