On Mar 22, 11:38*am, "John R. Carroll"
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"RogerN" wrote in message

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"Hawke" wrote in message
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Following in the footsteps of their losses in 2006 and 2008, the
republican party has again suffered a crushing defeat. Despite doing
everything possible to stop Obama and the Dems from passing health care
reform, the republicans have failed again. Health care reform has passed.
So chalk up another loss to the republican party...and the teabaggers.
All their efforts could not stop the duly elected majority from doing
what they said they would do if elected. For those who were asking what
has Obama accomplished in his time in office you now have your answer. So
next we get to see how bad the republican's predictions of the end of the
world if the bill passes comes to reality. My prediction is things
improve.

Hawke

That's right, Obama and the Democrats stabbed the American people in the
back by passing a health care bill that the majority of Americans didn't
want. *Hopefully the American people will remember them when it's time to
vote.

They will be constantly reminded right up to election day roger - by every
Democrat in the country.
The political suicide just commited has the Republican brand all over it.

Political scientist Ruy Teixeira *found hard evidence that underscores Frum's
fears in a public opinion experiment undertaken by Newsweek last month. The
magazine's pollsters first asked respondents whether they support or oppose
the president's healthcare reform plan, with predictable results: 40 percent
in favor, 49 percent opposed, 11 percent undecided.

Then the pollsters described major aspects of the bill -- the insurance
exchanges, the strict regulation of insurance company policies, the
requirement for insurance with government assistance to those who need help,
the tax on expensive plans, the fines on those who don't get insurance, and
the public option. Not only did most of those aspects of the bill poll
favorably, but the overall legislation ticked up by 8 points when the
pollsters asked the same people again whether they support or oppose it. The
second time reversed the initial results: 48 percent in favor, 43 percent
opposed, 9 percent unsure.

That sharp turnaround in opinion occurred in a matter of minutes during a
telephone call with a stranger. Now the president and the congressional
Democrats have seven months to make the same argument, and smart Republicans
are properly terrified that they will.

http://www.salon.com/news/healthcare...story=/news/th....

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It's going to be a Republican bloodbath in November.

TMT

On 3/23/2010 11:31 PM, Too_Many_Tools wrote:
On Mar 22, 11:38 am, "John R. Carroll"
wrote:
wrote in message

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wrote in message
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Following in the footsteps of their losses in 2006 and 2008, the
republican party has again suffered a crushing defeat. Despite doing
everything possible to stop Obama and the Dems from passing health care
reform, the republicans have failed again. Health care reform has passed.
So chalk up another loss to the republican party...and the teabaggers.
All their efforts could not stop the duly elected majority from doing
what they said they would do if elected. For those who were asking what
has Obama accomplished in his time in office you now have your answer. So
next we get to see how bad the republican's predictions of the end of the
world if the bill passes comes to reality. My prediction is things
improve.

Hawke

That's right, Obama and the Democrats stabbed the American people in the
back by passing a health care bill that the majority of Americans didn't
want. Hopefully the American people will remember them when it's time to
vote.

They will be constantly reminded right up to election day roger - by every
Democrat in the country.
The political suicide just commited has the Republican brand all over it.

Political scientist Ruy Teixeira found hard evidence that underscores Frum's
fears in a public opinion experiment undertaken by Newsweek last month. The
magazine's pollsters first asked respondents whether they support or oppose
the president's healthcare reform plan, with predictable results: 40 percent
in favor, 49 percent opposed, 11 percent undecided.

Then the pollsters described major aspects of the bill -- the insurance
exchanges, the strict regulation of insurance company policies, the
requirement for insurance with government assistance to those who need help,
the tax on expensive plans, the fines on those who don't get insurance, and
the public option. Not only did most of those aspects of the bill poll
favorably, but the overall legislation ticked up by 8 points when the
pollsters asked the same people again whether they support or oppose it. The
second time reversed the initial results: 48 percent in favor, 43 percent
opposed, 9 percent unsure.

That sharp turnaround in opinion occurred in a matter of minutes during a
telephone call with a stranger. Now the president and the congressional
Democrats have seven months to make the same argument, and smart Republicans
are properly terrified that they will.

http://www.salon.com/news/healthcare...story=/news/th...

JC- Hide quoted text -

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It's going to be a Republican bloodbath in November.

TMT


That may well happen. But what is funny about it is that before the
passage of the health care bill the republicans were bragging about
taking over the House in November. They were cock sure they were going
to stomp all over the Democrats in the next election. Now that the bill
has passed it's as if all the air has gone out of the republican's
balloon. As a party they are in deep ****. No leaders worth a damn, no
plan, no ideas but tax cuts and opposition to everything the other side
wants to do to improve the country. That doesn't sound like a party that
is going anywhere.

Hawke

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On 3/23/2010 11:31 PM, Too_Many_Tools wrote:
On Mar 22, 11:38 am, "John R. Carroll"
wrote:
wrote in message

news






wrote in message
...
Following in the footsteps of their losses in 2006 and 2008, the
republican party has again suffered a crushing defeat. Despite doing
everything possible to stop Obama and the Dems from passing health
care
reform, the republicans have failed again. Health care reform has
passed.
So chalk up another loss to the republican party...and the teabaggers.
All their efforts could not stop the duly elected majority from doing
what they said they would do if elected. For those who were asking
what
has Obama accomplished in his time in office you now have your answer.
So
next we get to see how bad the republican's predictions of the end of
the
world if the bill passes comes to reality. My prediction is things
improve.

Hawke

That's right, Obama and the Democrats stabbed the American people in
the
back by passing a health care bill that the majority of Americans
didn't
want. Hopefully the American people will remember them when it's time
to
vote.

They will be constantly reminded right up to election day roger - by
every
Democrat in the country.
The political suicide just commited has the Republican brand all over
it.

Political scientist Ruy Teixeira found hard evidence that underscores
Frum's
fears in a public opinion experiment undertaken by Newsweek last month.
The
magazine's pollsters first asked respondents whether they support or
oppose
the president's healthcare reform plan, with predictable results: 40
percent
in favor, 49 percent opposed, 11 percent undecided.

Then the pollsters described major aspects of the bill -- the insurance
exchanges, the strict regulation of insurance company policies, the
requirement for insurance with government assistance to those who need
help,
the tax on expensive plans, the fines on those who don't get insurance,
and
the public option. Not only did most of those aspects of the bill poll
favorably, but the overall legislation ticked up by 8 points when the
pollsters asked the same people again whether they support or oppose it.
The
second time reversed the initial results: 48 percent in favor, 43
percent
opposed, 9 percent unsure.

That sharp turnaround in opinion occurred in a matter of minutes during
a
telephone call with a stranger. Now the president and the congressional
Democrats have seven months to make the same argument, and smart
Republicans
are properly terrified that they will.

http://www.salon.com/news/healthcare...story=/news/th...

JC- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

It's going to be a Republican bloodbath in November.

TMT


That may well happen. But what is funny about it is that before the
passage of the health care bill the republicans were bragging about taking
over the House in November. They were cock sure they were going to stomp
all over the Democrats in the next election. Now that the bill has passed
it's as if all the air has gone out of the republican's balloon. As a
party they are in deep ****. No leaders worth a damn, no plan, no ideas
but tax cuts and opposition to everything the other side wants to do to
improve the country. That doesn't sound like a party that is going
anywhere.

Hawke

Obama had to bribe Democrats to get enough votes to force his plan through
that the majority of Americans didn't want. Are the Democrats not
interested in representing the people that voted for them? Evidently not.

RogerN