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"John R. Carroll" wrote in message news Ed Huntress wrote: "John Martin" wrote in message ... On Mar 19, 9:22 pm, "Ed Huntress" wrote: This is not true, Lloyd. It's an amateurish misreading of the text by RedState, which was in turn picked up by Sarah ("Death Panel") Palin, our Idiot-in-Chief. Then the Washington Times and the right-wing blogosphere revved up their engines and drove over the cliff. -- Ed Huntress- - Show quoted text - There you go again, Ed. Yup, and at my age, I'm glad still to be going, John. You make fun of Sarah Palin for her "Death Panel" statements, just after you admit that those death panels already exist - "They're called Medical Directors in the insurance industry." Sarah has an inkling that *someone* must be making these life-and-death decisions, because we're already at the point where some people are dying because they don't get proper treatment that we all know is available. But either she didn't know (most likely) or didn't care (another possibility) that she was aimed in the wrong direction. It must be socialism, she thinks, because socialism is always evil and capitalism is always virtuous, in her Alice-through-the-looking-glass, world. Now government is going to be overt about it: the life-choice consultations, which have been a function of hospitals and their ethics boards for decades, suddenly are going to become government-controlled "death squads" in her wacky imagination. The death squads, as always, are upper-level staff in private insurance companies. Her hubris, or ignorance, or the weakness of a mind that allows it to be vicitimized by ideology, led her to conclude that it was all the fault of the government rather than an economic necessity of doing business in the topsy-turvey world of medical "markets." She has the certainty of the born-again, John. That is to say, she has a weak mind that obtains absolutist certainty by marrying herself to an ideology or a religion. So she's taken a nutty interpretation of something that exists because of the economics of the INSURANCE industry, and attributed it to GOVERNMENT by, first, a misunderstanding what the new committees are and do, and, secondly, because she can't believe that the virtuous insurance industry actually is doing what she fears so much. She has no idea of what the bill actually says. People are just feeding her one-liners. And she's a fool. The federal government wants to be in the health care business and will be before too long - anyone who thinks the public option has been forgotten simply isn't paying attention. And when we do get there, we will have bureaucrats making the same decisions that are made by the insurance companies' Medical Directors. There will always have to be someone to say "no", and sometimes that will be to an expensive procedure that might prolong a life. At least we can vote them out. The insurance companies own you. Until a few days ago, they could make those life-and-death decisions any way they want -- and what they often "want" is to improve profits using any possible excuse. If you've been reading the news, you know that they just tried to pull off a trick by which newborn babies are denied coverage for "pre-existing conditions." So, which is it? Was Sarah on target, or will the taxpayers be footing the bill for every possible procedure and drug that might even slightly benefit a patient? Sarah is full of ****. The bubblehead remains as clueless as ever. As for footing the bill, you and I foot most of them already. And you apparently haven't studied the European models of what consumers can get as part of the program, and what's available to them at their own expense, with something like health care savings accounts or even private insurance. HAHAHAHA................ Speaking of Sarah: Levi Johnston pitches antidote to Sarah Palin Alaska series Levi's re-loading! Levi Johnston, Sarah Palin's grandbaby-daddy and the bane of her existence, is pitching his own docu-series in which HE will introduce viewers to Alaska. The news comes just days after Discovery Networks announced that its TLC network would air "Sarah Palin's Alaska" in which SHE would introduce us to Alaska. Yes, TV is about to erupt in warring Palin-clan docu-series. Life could not get better. "If I could wave my magic wand I would want it to premiere at the exact same hour, minute, and second as Sarah Palin's does," Stuart Krasnow, the executive producer of Levi's series, told The TV Column. Levi's show, tentatively titled "Levi Johnston's Final Frontier," is " 'Jersey Shore' on ice," Krasnow said. http://voices.washingtonpost.com/tvb...l?hpid=artslot -- John R. Carroll Gee. Fireworks. I *love* fireworks. g -- Ed Huntress |
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Ed Huntress wrote:
"John R. Carroll" wrote in message news Ed Huntress wrote: "John Martin" wrote in message ... On Mar 19, 9:22 pm, "Ed Huntress" wrote: Yes, TV is about to erupt in warring Palin-clan docu-series. Life could not get better. "If I could wave my magic wand I would want it to premiere at the exact same hour, minute, and second as Sarah Palin's does," Stuart Krasnow, the executive producer of Levi's series, told The TV Column. Levi's show, tentatively titled "Levi Johnston's Final Frontier," is " 'Jersey Shore' on ice," Krasnow said. http://voices.washingtonpost.com/tvb...l?hpid=artslot Gee. Fireworks. I *love* fireworks. g I wonder if we'll learn which has the bigger schwantz? -- John R. Carroll |