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On Mar 19, 9:22 pm, "Ed Huntress" wrote:

This is not true, Lloyd. It's an amateurish misreading of the text by
RedState, which was in turn picked up by Sarah ("Death Panel")
Palin, our Idiot-in-Chief. Then the Washington Times and the
right-wing blogosphere revved up their engines and drove over the
cliff.

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There you go again, Ed.


Yup, and at my age, I'm glad still to be going, John.


You make fun of Sarah Palin for her "Death Panel" statements, just
after you admit that those death panels already exist - "They're
called Medical Directors in the insurance industry."



Sarah has an inkling that *someone* must be making these
life-and-death decisions, because we're already at the point where
some people are dying because they don't get proper treatment that we
all know is available. But either she didn't know (most likely) or
didn't care (another possibility) that she was aimed in the wrong
direction.

It must be socialism, she thinks, because socialism is always evil and
capitalism is always virtuous, in her Alice-through-the-looking-glass,
world. Now government is going to be overt about it: the life-choice
consultations, which have been a function of hospitals and their
ethics boards for decades, suddenly are going to become
government-controlled "death squads" in her wacky imagination. The
death squads, as always, are upper-level staff in private insurance
companies. Her hubris, or ignorance, or the weakness of a mind that
allows it to be vicitimized by ideology, led her to conclude that it
was all the fault of the government rather than an economic necessity
of doing business in the topsy-turvey world of medical "markets."

She has the certainty of the born-again, John. That is to say, she
has a weak mind that obtains absolutist certainty by marrying herself
to an ideology or a religion. So she's taken a nutty interpretation
of something that exists because of the economics of the INSURANCE
industry, and attributed it to GOVERNMENT by, first, a
misunderstanding what the new committees are and do, and, secondly,
because she can't believe that the virtuous insurance industry
actually is doing what she fears so much.

She has no idea of what the bill actually says. People are just
feeding her one-liners. And she's a fool.



The federal government wants to be in the health care business and
will be before too long - anyone who thinks the public option has
been forgotten simply isn't paying attention. And when we do get
there, we will have bureaucrats making the same decisions that are
made by the insurance companies' Medical Directors. There will
always have to be someone to say "no", and sometimes that will be to
an expensive
procedure that might prolong a life.


At least we can vote them out. The insurance companies own you. Until
a few days ago, they could make those life-and-death decisions any
way they
want -- and what they often "want" is to improve profits using any
possible excuse. If you've been reading the news, you know that they
just tried to pull off a trick by which newborn babies are denied
coverage for "pre-existing conditions."


So, which is it? Was Sarah on target, or will the taxpayers be
footing the bill for every possible procedure and drug that might
even slightly benefit a patient?


Sarah is full of ****. The bubblehead remains as clueless as ever. As
for footing the bill, you and I foot most of them already. And you
apparently haven't studied the European models of what consumers can
get as part of the program, and what's available to them at their own
expense, with something like health care savings accounts or even
private insurance.

HAHAHAHA................
Speaking of Sarah:

Levi Johnston pitches antidote to Sarah Palin Alaska series
Levi's re-loading!

Levi Johnston, Sarah Palin's grandbaby-daddy and the bane of her
existence,
is pitching his own docu-series in which HE will introduce viewers to
Alaska.

The news comes just days after Discovery Networks announced that its TLC
network would air "Sarah Palin's Alaska" in which SHE would introduce us
to
Alaska.

Yes, TV is about to erupt in warring Palin-clan docu-series. Life could
not
get better.

"If I could wave my magic wand I would want it to premiere at the exact
same
hour, minute, and second as Sarah Palin's does," Stuart Krasnow, the
executive producer of Levi's series, told The TV Column.

Levi's show, tentatively titled "Levi Johnston's Final Frontier," is "
'Jersey Shore' on ice," Krasnow said.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/tvb...l?hpid=artslot
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Ed Huntress wrote:
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On Mar 19, 9:22 pm, "Ed Huntress" wrote:

Yes, TV is about to erupt in warring Palin-clan docu-series. Life
could not
get better.

"If I could wave my magic wand I would want it to premiere at the
exact same
hour, minute, and second as Sarah Palin's does," Stuart Krasnow, the
executive producer of Levi's series, told The TV Column.

Levi's show, tentatively titled "Levi Johnston's Final Frontier," is
" 'Jersey Shore' on ice," Krasnow said.


http://voices.washingtonpost.com/tvb...l?hpid=artslot

Gee. Fireworks. I *love* fireworks. g


I wonder if we'll learn which has the bigger schwantz?


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