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Today I putzed with making suitable drive electronics for my summertime bug-free yellow LED reading light mentioned here befo http://members.goldengate.net/dforeman/yellowlight/ Being retired and somewhat incorrigable, today became more of a "wonder if I can" rather than goal-directed activity making any rational sense. I don't have to make sense. I'm retired! I have 150 pcs of LM358 opamp in the mini SO-8 package in my goodiebox so I wondered if I could solder leads to one. I did. http://members.goldengate.net/dforem...low_lite_elex/ The wire is #30AWG wire wrap wire, .010" dia. I gobbed some 5-minute epoxy on afterwards to add some robustness. Guess I'm still ahead of the DT's and Parkinson's. Knock on wood! The current regulator, comprised of this opamp, three resistors and a MOSFET, will be a "bulge in the cord" of a surplus switcher wallwart (as suggested by Spehro) that I found at Electronic Goldmine for the $2.99 or so that Spehro mentioned. I'll house it in a bit of plastic water pipe (ABS?) already turned down to about .034" wall thickness. It's about 5/8" ID. I discovered by experiment today that this stuff easily handles 80 degC, relevant because the goo I plan to use to pot the elex in the tube needs 80C to cure in less than a lifetime. My CBCR (cord bulge current regulator) doesn't really need to be potted, but I may as well use this really good 3M Scotchcast resin before it turns to rock from old age. I'm amazed that it hasn't already done so. Maybe more later on this. |
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Looks awesome and good idea to use a unique color.
The smallest soldering for me happened when I was fixing my son's MP3 player. It would not power up. I took the player apart and found the issue (which was not obvious prior to taking it apart). What broke was the on/off switch. It was soldered and fell off due to inadequate support. Soldering it back on was a challenge for me, but it did work out. i On 2010-02-14, Don Foreman wrote: Today I putzed with making suitable drive electronics for my summertime bug-free yellow LED reading light mentioned here befo http://members.goldengate.net/dforeman/yellowlight/ Being retired and somewhat incorrigable, today became more of a "wonder if I can" rather than goal-directed activity making any rational sense. I don't have to make sense. I'm retired! I have 150 pcs of LM358 opamp in the mini SO-8 package in my goodiebox so I wondered if I could solder leads to one. I did. http://members.goldengate.net/dforem...low_lite_elex/ The wire is #30AWG wire wrap wire, .010" dia. I gobbed some 5-minute epoxy on afterwards to add some robustness. Guess I'm still ahead of the DT's and Parkinson's. Knock on wood! The current regulator, comprised of this opamp, three resistors and a MOSFET, will be a "bulge in the cord" of a surplus switcher wallwart (as suggested by Spehro) that I found at Electronic Goldmine for the $2.99 or so that Spehro mentioned. I'll house it in a bit of plastic water pipe (ABS?) already turned down to about .034" wall thickness. It's about 5/8" ID. I discovered by experiment today that this stuff easily handles 80 degC, relevant because the goo I plan to use to pot the elex in the tube needs 80C to cure in less than a lifetime. My CBCR (cord bulge current regulator) doesn't really need to be potted, but I may as well use this really good 3M Scotchcast resin before it turns to rock from old age. I'm amazed that it hasn't already done so. Maybe more later on this. |
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On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 23:34:02 -0600, Don Foreman wrote:
Today I putzed with making suitable drive electronics for my summertime bug-free yellow LED reading light mentioned here befo http://members.goldengate.net/dforeman/yellowlight/ .... I have 150 pcs of LM358 opamp in the mini SO-8 package in my goodiebox so I wondered if I could solder leads to one. I did. http://members.goldengate.net/dforem...low_lite_elex/ The wire is #30AWG wire wrap wire, .010" dia. I gobbed some 5-minute epoxy on afterwards to add some robustness. .... That looks like it will work fine, but for your other SO-8 packages, note that that the 0.050" lead spacing of SO-8 matches the 0.050 card edge pin spacing on PCI cards. If you have any old PCI interface cards sitting around, you can cut off sections of card edge to use as PCB's for making prototypes. (Of course, if not in a hurry, you can have a real $13 PCB made via http://www.batchpcb.com.) -- jiw |
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"Don Foreman" wrote in message ... Today I putzed with making suitable drive electronics for my summertime bug-free yellow LED reading light mentioned here befo http://members.goldengate.net/dforeman/yellowlight/ Being retired and somewhat incorrigable, today became more of a "wonder if I can" rather than goal-directed activity making any rational sense. I don't have to make sense. I'm retired! I have 150 pcs of LM358 opamp in the mini SO-8 package in my goodiebox so I wondered if I could solder leads to one. I did. http://members.goldengate.net/dforem...low_lite_elex/ The wire is #30AWG wire wrap wire, .010" dia. I gobbed some 5-minute epoxy on afterwards to add some robustness. Guess I'm still ahead of the DT's and Parkinson's. Knock on wood! The current regulator, comprised of this opamp, three resistors and a MOSFET, will be a "bulge in the cord" of a surplus switcher wallwart (as suggested by Spehro) that I found at Electronic Goldmine for the $2.99 or so that Spehro mentioned. I'll house it in a bit of plastic water pipe (ABS?) already turned down to about .034" wall thickness. It's about 5/8" ID. I discovered by experiment today that this stuff easily handles 80 degC, relevant because the goo I plan to use to pot the elex in the tube needs 80C to cure in less than a lifetime. My CBCR (cord bulge current regulator) doesn't really need to be potted, but I may as well use this really good 3M Scotchcast resin before it turns to rock from old age. I'm amazed that it hasn't already done so. Maybe more later on this. Nice job! I know I've lost a lot of my ability to do really small stuff. I did solder some cracked surface mount ICs on a Dell laptop, a well documented problem. Now I've accumulated a bunch of optics and mechanical helpers for fine work. I really like my $50 200 power zoom lighted still/video microscope! I'm contemplating a fix for a Toshiba laptop video card that has ball array mounted memory chips that need repair...no replacement cards available. I'll build a dam on each chip and fill it with molten lead from my lead pot. What do I make the dam from? What temp should the lead be to fix the array yet not fry the chips? |
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On 2/13/2010 10:38 PM, James Waldby wrote:
(Of course, if not in a hurry, you can have a real $13 PCB made viahttp://www.batchpcb.com.) "$8.00/sq. in. for 4 layer designs" Bless you, James! --Winston |
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Nice job! I know I've lost a lot of my ability to do really small stuff. I did solder some cracked surface mount ICs on a Dell laptop, a well documented problem. Now I've accumulated a bunch of optics and mechanical helpers for fine work. I really like my $50 200 power zoom lighted still/video microscope! Do you have a link to your $50 200 power zoom lighted still/video microscope! Mike |
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I'm contemplating a fix for a Toshiba laptop video card that has ball array
mounted memory chips that need repair...no replacement cards available. I'll build a dam on each chip and fill it with molten lead from my lead pot. What do I make the dam from? *What temp should the lead be to fix the array yet not fry the chips? I am not sure of the temp, but in the industry hot air is used to apply or reflow those, and a fixture holds the chip up off the circuit board so that it's weight does not squish all the solder balls into one massive solder short. Duration of heat application is also critical, to not get either cold solder or overcooked, this is all done with a huge machine with special fixtures for each board and chip used, copper chills on the back, computer timed and regulated airflow, and to move the chip that last mm into contact at the exact right moment. If it was made with lead-free solder, it is even fussier about process parameters. I'd suggest finding another video card on eBay except I suspect any other card made at about the same time will show similar issues. I don't think BGAs (ball grid arrays) have the same lifespan as QFPs, etc. Still, I think I'd try a used pull before I tried to reflow a BGA without the machine... --Glenn Lyford |
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"amdx" wrote in message ... Nice job! I know I've lost a lot of my ability to do really small stuff. I did solder some cracked surface mount ICs on a Dell laptop, a well documented problem. Now I've accumulated a bunch of optics and mechanical helpers for fine work. I really like my $50 200 power zoom lighted still/video microscope! Do you have a link to your $50 200 power zoom lighted still/video microscope! Mike There's millions of them on ebay. |
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Nice soldering. The macro picture makes it look easy. I zoomed out to
actual size* & it was much more impressive. What kind/size of iron & solder? Any special technique? Nice picture, too. Any special technique for it? Keep up the good work, Bob * - using the FireFox "Image Zoom" plug in. |
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Don Foreman wrote:
Today I putzed with making suitable drive electronics for my summertime bug-free yellow LED reading light mentioned here befo http://members.goldengate.net/dforeman/yellowlight/ Being retired and somewhat incorrigable, today became more of a "wonder if I can" rather than goal-directed activity making any rational sense. I don't have to make sense. I'm retired! I have 150 pcs of LM358 opamp in the mini SO-8 package in my goodiebox so I wondered if I could solder leads to one. I did. http://members.goldengate.net/dforem...low_lite_elex/ The wire is #30AWG wire wrap wire, .010" dia. I gobbed some 5-minute epoxy on afterwards to add some robustness. Guess I'm still ahead of the DT's and Parkinson's. Knock on wood! Don, you sure have a steady hand. Did you use a microscope to see those 0.050" spaced pads? If I tried that, I'd have two big solderballs. Tell us your technique please. Wes |
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Don Foreman wrote:
I have 150 pcs of LM358 opamp in the mini SO-8 package in my goodiebox so I wondered if I could solder leads to one. I did. http://members.goldengate.net/dforem...low_lite_elex/ The wire is #30AWG wire wrap wire, .010" dia. I gobbed some 5-minute epoxy on afterwards to add some robustness. I do way too much of this stuff myself. I often make prototypes by supergluing the part upside down to bare copper pcb laminate then soldering the wires. Little bits of double stick foam tape work well for positioning the wires. Good luck on the BGA. I've never been able to successfully attach wires to one. Let us know if you get it to work. |
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On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 06:38:44 +0000 (UTC), James Waldby
wrote: That looks like it will work fine, but for your other SO-8 packages, note that that the 0.050" lead spacing of SO-8 matches the 0.050 card edge pin spacing on PCI cards. If you have any old PCI interface cards sitting around, you can cut off sections of card edge to use as PCB's for making prototypes. (Of course, if not in a hurry, you can have a real $13 PCB made via http://www.batchpcb.com.) I didn't know about those guys. Thanks! |
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On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 10:20:12 -0500, Bob Engelhardt
wrote: Nice soldering. The macro picture makes it look easy. I zoomed out to actual size* & it was much more impressive. What kind/size of iron & solder? Any special technique? The iron is a Pace TW100. I don't know what the part number of the tip is. The small one! Solder is ordinary Sn63Pb37 .015" dia. I held the chip in a pair of locking tweezers in a small Palmgren drillpress vise, the wire in another pair of locking tweezers in another drillpress vise, slid the wire into position, rested my hand on the solder spool, snuck up on the connection and applied solder. Nice picture, too. Any special technique for it? Nope. Nikon 990 on a tripod, bench lamp for lighting. |
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On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 11:10:41 -0500, Wes wrote:
Don Foreman wrote: Today I putzed with making suitable drive electronics for my summertime bug-free yellow LED reading light mentioned here befo http://members.goldengate.net/dforeman/yellowlight/ Being retired and somewhat incorrigable, today became more of a "wonder if I can" rather than goal-directed activity making any rational sense. I don't have to make sense. I'm retired! I have 150 pcs of LM358 opamp in the mini SO-8 package in my goodiebox so I wondered if I could solder leads to one. I did. http://members.goldengate.net/dforem...low_lite_elex/ The wire is #30AWG wire wrap wire, .010" dia. I gobbed some 5-minute epoxy on afterwards to add some robustness. Guess I'm still ahead of the DT's and Parkinson's. Knock on wood! Don, you sure have a steady hand. Did you use a microscope to see those 0.050" spaced pads? Those aren't spaced .050. This is a mini-SO8 with pins spaced .026" on centers. Gaps between pins are about 0.015". I use a Meiji binocular zoom microscope set at about 5X magnification. If I tried that, I'd have two big solderballs. Tell us your technique please. Reported in another post a few minutes ago. With the right tools, it's really not as tricky as it may seem. They a a microscope and the Pace soldering station. http://www.happcontrols.com/tools/92144600.htm Ah! The tip is 1124-0003-P1 http://www.happcontrols.com/tools/92144700.htm The guy that showed me how to work with surfacemount stuff uses the Pace Heatwise station. Same iron, no digital readout. http://www.happcontrols.com/tools/92144500.htm His optical aid is a Mantis, really cool but not found on EBay in nearly the plenty that good binoc microscopes are, or were when I was looking anyway. http://www.visioneng.com/elite_overview.php Wes |
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Buerste wrote:
There's millions of them on ebay. Like this: USB, 10 - 200x, 1.3Mpixel, $57? http://tinyurl.com/yglupmz This one is 1/2 the resolution & twice the price (lots of example pix): http://tinyurl.com/yausz59 How does one go about choosing one? Thanks for awakening me to the existence of a new toy ... er, tool, Bob |
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On Feb 14, 1:18*pm, Bob Engelhardt wrote:
Buerste wrote: There's millions of them on ebay. Like this: USB, 10 - 200x, 1.3Mpixel, $57?http://tinyurl.com/yglupmz This one is 1/2 the resolution & twice the price (lots of example pix):http://tinyurl.com/yausz59 How does one go about choosing one? Thanks for awakening me to the existence of a new toy ... er, tool, Bob I prefer an Optivisor headband magnifier for soldering because of the depth perception, though the cameras are better for inspecting the joints afterwards. SO leads are flexible enough to straighten out with pliers, then you can glue them down label side up. You can lash them to a popsicle stick etc with the fine wire and then push the strands into place over the leads to make soldering easier. jsw, who spent the last few days soldering these lovely little jewels because "no one else can": http://www.binder-usa.com/psearch.ph...20Connect ors |
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Don Foreman writes:
bug-free yellow Is this real? It always seemed like a phony gimmick to sell light bulbs. The incandescent color filtering can't have been high Q enough to affect insects, just a slight effect to impress the rubes. LEDs would be another matter. |
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Bob Engelhardt writes:
Like this: USB, 10 - 200x, 1.3Mpixel, $57? http://tinyurl.com/yglupmz Magnification is meaningless in photomicroscopy, since you can enlarge a photograph all you like. Spatial resolution is all that counts. |
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On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:32:22 -0600, Richard J Kinch
wrote: Don Foreman writes: bug-free yellow Is this real? It always seemed like a phony gimmick to sell light bulbs. The incandescent color filtering can't have been high Q enough to affect insects, just a slight effect to impress the rubes. LEDs would be another matter. The next word in my post after "bug-free yellow" that you excerpted was "LED". I'm using an amber 2.5-watt Luxeon LED. It really is ignored by bugs. I'm replacing one I made 2 years ago that disappeared last summer so I'm not hypothesizing here. It works, at the lake, in Minnesota. In addition to being quite narrow spectrum, it also runs cool and emits about no IR. |
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Don Foreman wrote in
: Today I putzed with making suitable drive electronics for my summertime bug-free yellow LED reading light mentioned here befo http://members.goldengate.net/dforeman/yellowlight/ Being retired and somewhat incorrigable, today became more of a "wonder if I can" rather than goal-directed activity making any rational sense. I don't have to make sense. I'm retired! I have 150 pcs of LM358 opamp in the mini SO-8 package in my goodiebox so I wondered if I could solder leads to one. I did. http://members.goldengate.net/dforem...low_lite_elex/ The wire is #30AWG wire wrap wire, .010" dia. I gobbed some 5-minute epoxy on afterwards to add some robustness. Guess I'm still ahead of the DT's and Parkinson's. Knock on wood! Nice work! We have only a couple techs at work who are up to "dead- bugging" stuff that small with #30 wire. They do it fairly often when someone screws up a layout or needs to add a part to a design. I made a "part holder" for soldering small surface mount parts a while back, and I've been thinking about turning it into a "product" for my retirement. I won't get rich, but it would be fun to make. The actual bit that holds the part down is currently a chunk of "orange stick". It tolerates soldering temps, can be sharpened to suit and is disposable. The catch is that orange sticks aren't ESD approved. I've been trying to think of something that isn't too pricey that I could replace it with. It needs to stand up to soldering temps, be static dissipative, and thermally non-conducting. It should be moderately rigid, but soft enough that it can be whittled or pointed. Something in ~ 3/16" diameter rod would be perfect. Does anyone know if I can buy carbon loaded teflon rod? Any other ideas for a material? Thanks! Doug White |
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On Feb 15, 2:05*pm, Doug White wrote:
Don Foreman wrote : Today I putzed with making suitable drive electronics for my summertime bug-free yellow LED reading light mentioned here befo http://members.goldengate.net/dforeman/yellowlight/ Being retired and somewhat incorrigable, today became more of a "wonder if I can" rather than goal-directed activity making any rational sense. *I don't have to make sense. *I'm retired! I have 150 pcs of LM358 opamp in the mini SO-8 package in my goodiebox so I wondered if I could solder leads to one. I did. http://members.goldengate.net/dforem...low_lite_elex/ The wire is #30AWG wire wrap wire, .010" dia. I gobbed some 5-minute epoxy on afterwards to add some robustness. * Guess I'm still ahead of the DT's and Parkinson's. *Knock on wood! Nice work! *We have only a couple techs at work who are up to "dead- bugging" stuff that small with #30 wire. *They do it fairly often when someone screws up a layout or needs to add a part to a design. I made a "part holder" for soldering small surface mount parts a while back, and I've been thinking about turning it into a "product" for my retirement. *I won't get rich, but it would be fun to make. *The actual bit that holds the part down is currently a chunk of "orange stick". *It tolerates soldering temps, can be sharpened to suit and is disposable. * The catch is that orange sticks aren't ESD approved. *I've been trying to think of something that isn't too pricey that I could replace it with. * It needs to stand up to soldering temps, be static dissipative, and thermally non-conducting. *It should be moderately rigid, but soft enough that it can be whittled or pointed. *Something in ~ 3/16" diameter rod would be perfect. Does anyone know if I can buy carbon loaded teflon rod? *Any other ideas for a material? Thanks! Doug White- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Try a regular pencil. Nice graphite core, cheap, eraser end can be used on corroded contacts. For those still trying to use wire solder on that small stuff, solder paste in a syringe is your friend. Stan |
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Doug White wrote:
... I made a "part holder" for soldering small surface mount parts a while back, and I've been thinking about turning it into a "product" for my retirement. ... If I were in the market for such a device, a feature that I would dearly love to have is isolation of the tabs for soldering. I.e., a barrier to keep me from getting solder where I don't want it. Good luck, Bob |
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Bob Engelhardt wrote in
: Doug White wrote: ... I made a "part holder" for soldering small surface mount parts a while back, and I've been thinking about turning it into a "product" for my retirement. ... If I were in the market for such a device, a feature that I would dearly love to have is isolation of the tabs for soldering. I.e., a barrier to keep me from getting solder where I don't want it. Hmm. That gets tricky. This thing isn't much more than a fine point paperweight, but you could add a moveable teflon baffle to it. Doug White |
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On Feb 15, 5:16*pm, Doug White wrote:
wrote : ... For those still trying to use wire solder on that small stuff, solder paste in a syringe is your friend. The solder paste at Digikey has a finite shelf life & is supposed to be refrigerated. *For the amount of work I typcally do, I've always been afraid it will die before I can use even a 10th of it. *Have you had any problems with it goign bad? *I don't even know what the symptoms would be, probably poor flux behavior, or lots of oxides in the solder. I have 15 mil diameter solder that works pretty well on tiny stuff. Doug White One early symptom is tiny solder balls in the flux around the joint. I didn't like the way it performs after about 6 months in the lab refrigerator. For me 0.015" solder wiped through paper and tweezers with the tips sanded parallel are enough for 0402 chips, 0201s under protest, 0603s if I have any say in it. jsw |
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Don Foreman wrote:
Is this real? It always seemed like a phony gimmick to sell light bulbs. The incandescent color filtering can't have been high Q enough to affect insects, just a slight effect to impress the rubes. LEDs would be another matter. The next word in my post after "bug-free yellow" that you excerpted was "LED". I'm using an amber 2.5-watt Luxeon LED. It really is ignored by bugs. I'm replacing one I made 2 years ago that disappeared last summer so I'm not hypothesizing here. It works, at the lake, in Minnesota. In addition to being quite narrow spectrum, it also runs cool and emits about no IR. I *thought* mosquitoes could sense infrared but my quick read of wiki didn't mention it. A general google search finds a lot of add copy selling things mentioning mosquitoes and IR but that sure isn't authoritative. Remember waking up one night on a back packing trip with my dog to the sounds of most of the Michigan air force (mosquitoes) circling around my little back pack tent. They found us some how. We were not emitting light. What type of bugs are you hoping won't be attracted? Wes |
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Wes wrote:
Don Foreman wrote: Is this real? It always seemed like a phony gimmick to sell light bulbs. The incandescent color filtering can't have been high Q enough to affect insects, just a slight effect to impress the rubes. LEDs would be another matter. The next word in my post after "bug-free yellow" that you excerpted was "LED". I'm using an amber 2.5-watt Luxeon LED. It really is ignored by bugs. I'm replacing one I made 2 years ago that disappeared last summer so I'm not hypothesizing here. It works, at the lake, in Minnesota. In addition to being quite narrow spectrum, it also runs cool and emits about no IR. I *thought* mosquitoes could sense infrared but my quick read of wiki didn't mention it. A general google search finds a lot of add copy selling things mentioning mosquitoes and IR but that sure isn't authoritative. Remember waking up one night on a back packing trip with my dog to the sounds of most of the Michigan air force (mosquitoes) circling around my little back pack tent. They found us some how. We were not emitting light. What type of bugs are you hoping won't be attracted? Wes Maybe CO2. I the UK midges are quite prevalent in Scotland, while not mozzies, they bite and are known to home in on CO2 sources, such as humans and other animals, very effectively. Maybe also how you smell, an ex girlfriend could be bitten repeatedly in the night and I might get one bite if I was unfortunate and I was next to her. |
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Wes wrote:
Don Foreman wrote: Is this real? It always seemed like a phony gimmick to sell light bulbs. The incandescent color filtering can't have been high Q enough to affect insects, just a slight effect to impress the rubes. LEDs would be another matter. The next word in my post after "bug-free yellow" that you excerpted was "LED". I'm using an amber 2.5-watt Luxeon LED. It really is ignored by bugs. I'm replacing one I made 2 years ago that disappeared last summer so I'm not hypothesizing here. It works, at the lake, in Minnesota. In addition to being quite narrow spectrum, it also runs cool and emits about no IR. I *thought* mosquitoes could sense infrared but my quick read of wiki didn't mention it. A general google search finds a lot of add copy selling things mentioning mosquitoes and IR but that sure isn't authoritative. Remember waking up one night on a back packing trip with my dog to the sounds of most of the Michigan air force (mosquitoes) circling around my little back pack tent. They found us some how. We were not emitting light. What type of bugs are you hoping won't be attracted? Wes They can sense infrared and CO2. You didn't have a chance. -- Richard Lamb http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/ |
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On Feb 15, 7:32*pm, cavelamb wrote:
... They can sense infrared and CO2. You didn't have a chance. Richard Lamb I noticed that they swarmed around a hot dirt bike engine but not the exhaust or me. jsw |
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On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:10:24 -0500, Wes wrote:
What type of bugs are you hoping won't be attracted? Wes Skeeters. |
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On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:05:05 GMT, Doug White
wrote: Don Foreman wrote in : Today I putzed with making suitable drive electronics for my summertime bug-free yellow LED reading light mentioned here befo http://members.goldengate.net/dforeman/yellowlight/ Being retired and somewhat incorrigable, today became more of a "wonder if I can" rather than goal-directed activity making any rational sense. I don't have to make sense. I'm retired! I have 150 pcs of LM358 opamp in the mini SO-8 package in my goodiebox so I wondered if I could solder leads to one. I did. http://members.goldengate.net/dforem...low_lite_elex/ The wire is #30AWG wire wrap wire, .010" dia. I gobbed some 5-minute epoxy on afterwards to add some robustness. Guess I'm still ahead of the DT's and Parkinson's. Knock on wood! Nice work! We have only a couple techs at work who are up to "dead- bugging" stuff that small with #30 wire. They do it fairly often when someone screws up a layout or needs to add a part to a design. I made a "part holder" for soldering small surface mount parts a while back, and I've been thinking about turning it into a "product" for my retirement. I won't get rich, but it would be fun to make. The actual bit that holds the part down is currently a chunk of "orange stick". It tolerates soldering temps, can be sharpened to suit and is disposable. The catch is that orange sticks aren't ESD approved. I've been trying to think of something that isn't too pricey that I could replace it with. It needs to stand up to soldering temps, be static dissipative, and thermally non-conducting. It should be moderately rigid, but soft enough that it can be whittled or pointed. Something in ~ 3/16" diameter rod would be perfect. Does anyone know if I can buy carbon loaded teflon rod? Any other ideas for a material? Thanks! Doug White How about a skinny pencil? Wood with (conductive) graphite center, easily pointed or whittled, inexpensive. |
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On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 22:16:19 GMT, Doug White
wrote: Try a regular pencil. Nice graphite core, cheap, eraser end can be used on corroded contacts. Interesting idea. I'm not sure how conductive they are. I think it's mostly clay. They're more than amply conductive for static dissipation. I used to arc-weld thermocouples using a lab bench supply and a couple of pencil leads. No goggles or mask, just squint. The OSHA lady would have me hung by the thumbs today, but this was many years ago. |
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On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 23:34:02 -0600, Don Foreman
wrote: Today I putzed with making suitable drive electronics for my summertime bug-free yellow LED reading light mentioned here befo http://members.goldengate.net/dforeman/yellowlight/ Being retired and somewhat incorrigable, today became more of a "wonder if I can" rather than goal-directed activity making any rational sense. I don't have to make sense. I'm retired! I have 150 pcs of LM358 opamp in the mini SO-8 package in my goodiebox so I wondered if I could solder leads to one. I did. http://members.goldengate.net/dforem...low_lite_elex/ The wire is #30AWG wire wrap wire, .010" dia. I gobbed some 5-minute epoxy on afterwards to add some robustness. Guess I'm still ahead of the DT's and Parkinson's. Knock on wood! The current regulator, comprised of this opamp, three resistors and a MOSFET, will be a "bulge in the cord" of a surplus switcher wallwart (as suggested by Spehro) that I found at Electronic Goldmine for the $2.99 or so that Spehro mentioned. I'll house it in a bit of plastic water pipe (ABS?) already turned down to about .034" wall thickness. It's about 5/8" ID. I discovered by experiment today that this stuff easily handles 80 degC, relevant because the goo I plan to use to pot the elex in the tube needs 80C to cure in less than a lifetime. My CBCR (cord bulge current regulator) doesn't really need to be potted, but I may as well use this really good 3M Scotchcast resin before it turns to rock from old age. I'm amazed that it hasn't already done so. Maybe more later on this. Update: The circuit oscillated. I've built several regulators like this, none of which oscillated, but this one did even though I could not get a SPICE sim of that circuit to oscillate. Usual remedies at the bench didn't work. I finally decided that perhaps that particular opamp was wonky and it might be best to start over. Clanged the can with it, built the circuit again using a different opamp in a SOT23-5 package: TS1871ILT from ST rather than LM358 also from ST. Easy to stick wires on that wee speck, or maybe I'm just getting better at it. I only had 50 of those, now 49 left but hey, it's time to be enjoying my treasure. This instantiation of the same dirt-simple design worked exactly as expected, within 1%. I used 5% resistors, but sometimes things turn out better than expected. It's now in a plastic tube filled with potting goo and curing in the oven, becoming a weatherproof bulge in the cord. That cookie will be done about lunchtime tomorrow, ready to go to the lake in late May or early June. |
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Don Foreman wrote: On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:10:24 -0500, Wes wrote: What type of bugs are you hoping won't be attracted? Wes Skeeters. They rarely bother me, from the time I switched to artifical sweetners. -- Greed is the root of all eBay. |
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On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 04:42:16 -0800 (PST), Glenn Lyford
wrote: I'm contemplating a fix for a Toshiba laptop video card that has ball array mounted memory chips that need repair...no replacement cards available. I'll build a dam on each chip and fill it with molten lead from my lead pot. What do I make the dam from? *What temp should the lead be to fix the array yet not fry the chips? I am not sure of the temp, but in the industry hot air is used to apply or reflow those, and a fixture holds the chip up off the circuit board so that it's weight does not squish all the solder balls into one massive solder short. Duration of heat application is also critical, to not get either cold solder or overcooked, this is all done with a huge machine with special fixtures for each board and chip used, copper chills on the back, computer timed and regulated airflow, and to move the chip that last mm into contact at the exact right moment. If it was made with lead-free solder, it is even fussier about process parameters. I'd suggest finding another video card on eBay except I suspect any other card made at about the same time will show similar issues. I don't think BGAs (ball grid arrays) have the same lifespan as QFPs, etc. Still, I think I'd try a used pull before I tried to reflow a BGA without the machine... --Glenn Lyford Then again, some work can be done with a syringe full of soldering mixture and a toaster oven... and you don't even need to align the parts all that carefully. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5lksMvmqQc -- Terry |
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