First hand experience on accuracy? Operation?

On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 01:35:02 -0600, wrote:

First hand experience on accuracy? Operation?


You are lucky to get 3" groups at 100 yrds. Operation of most of them is
fair to reliable. Some of the newests ones are finished with sandpaper
and concrete slabs for polishing media.

Ive a 181 Series that has been reliable for ..humm...15 yrs..but..its
not something Id take out to shoot anything smaller than bunnies at less
than 100yrds..or JBTs out to 250yrds

They Can...can..can be made into decent shooters..but by the time you
stuff enough money in a gunsmiths pocket..you would have been better off
buying a AR-15 of some sort.

Minis are unfortunately..one of the few removable magazine semiauto
"battle" rifles allowed in California...and **** Bill Ruger.

Shrug



Gunner

"I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the
means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not
making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of
it. In my youth I travelled much, and I observed in different
countries, that the more public provisions were made for the
poor the less they provided for themselves, and of course became
poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the
more they did for themselves, and became richer." -- Benjamin
Franklin, /The Encouragement of Idleness/, 1766

On Dec 31, 3:10*am, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 01:35:02 -0600, wrote:
First hand experience on accuracy? Operation?

You are lucky to get 3" groups at 100 yrds. Operation of most of them is
fair to reliable. Some of the newests ones are finished with sandpaper
and concrete slabs for polishing media.

Ive a 181 Series that has been reliable for ..humm...15 yrs..but..its
not something Id take out to shoot anything smaller than bunnies at less
than 100yrds..or JBTs out to 250yrds

They Can...can..can be made into decent shooters..but by the time you
stuff enough money in a gunsmiths pocket..you would have been better off
buying a AR-15 of some sort.

Minis are unfortunately..one of the few removable magazine semiauto
"battle" rifles allowed in California...and **** Bill Ruger.

Shrug

Gunner

"I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the
means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not
making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of
it. In my youth I travelled much, and I observed in different
countries, that the more public provisions were made for the
poor the less they provided for themselves, and of course became
poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the
more they did for themselves, and became richer." -- Benjamin
Franklin, /The Encouragement of Idleness/, 1766

I used the mini-14 on the job for ten years. I spent a few days on the
range with the armory Sgt. sighting in weapons. We had a steady rest
set up and we shot a five shot group at 100 yards and another five
shot group at 150 yards. Usually we would be firing 30 weapons during
the day. One rifle in that 30 might shoot a one inch group at 100
yards but most all of them did good to hold between two to four inches
at a hundred yards. Close enough for government work I guess but I
would probably spend more than the original purchase price to get one
tuned up if I owned it.

DL

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First hand experience on accuracy? Operation?

Accuracy is a bit disapointing on mine. I'd agree with gunner's 3" group
estimate.

Tons o' fun to shoot. Never jams. Small and light wieght. Get a few 30 round
clips and go blast something full of holes.

I got the folding stock and have it handy for personal protection instead of
a pistol. At close range, a pistol is no match. I never much believed in
fair fights.

Karl

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First hand experience on accuracy? Operation?

Best rifles EVER made! I have two I could be talked into selling, I need
the cash for an operation for my dying mother. I take Visa and MasterCard.

On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 09:21:47 -0500, the infamous "Buerste"
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First hand experience on accuracy? Operation?

Best rifles EVER made! I have two I could be talked into selling, I need
the cash for an operation for my dying mother. I take Visa and MasterCard.

titter What color's she dying, Tawm?

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Sex is Evil, Evil is Sin, Sin is Forgiven.
Gee, ain't religion GREAT?

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
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On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 09:21:47 -0500, the infamous "Buerste"
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First hand experience on accuracy? Operation?

Best rifles EVER made! I have two I could be talked into selling, I need
the cash for an operation for my dying mother. I take Visa and
MasterCard.

titter What color's she dying, Tawm?

--
Sex is Evil, Evil is Sin, Sin is Forgiven.
Gee, ain't religion GREAT?

Considering that she's dead, I'd guess she's dying purple. I could have
saved her if I sold my Minis.

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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
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On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 09:21:47 -0500, the infamous "Buerste"
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First hand experience on accuracy? Operation?

Best rifles EVER made! I have two I could be talked into selling, I need
the cash for an operation for my dying mother. I take Visa and
MasterCard.

titter What color's she dying, Tawm?

Considering that she's dead, I'd guess she's dying purple. I could have
saved her if I sold my Minis.

I'm sorry to hear that. You didn't find any suck^H^H^H^Hwise buyers,
eh?

--
Sex is Evil, Evil is Sin, Sin is Forgiven.
Gee, ain't religion GREAT?

"Steve Ackman" wrote in message
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In , on Thu, 31 Dec 2009 09:21:47 -0500,
Buerste, wrote:

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First hand experience on accuracy? Operation?

Best rifles EVER made! I have two I could be talked into selling, I need
the cash for an operation for my dying mother. I take Visa and
MasterCard.

I could be talked into buying both of them... for
the right price... say, $300 for the pair. Just so
happens, I actually have a Visa.


I'll sure miss good 'ol mom!

On Dec 31, 12:35*am, wrote:
First hand experience on accuracy? Operation?

Unless you're stuck with one because of state laws, an AR will
outshoot it any day of the week for one that costs about the same.
Minute of washtub was the rule for a lot of the older ones. As far as
operation, they've always gone bang. At one time, Minis cost about
half what an AR did, Mini price has gone up, AR prices have stayed
about the same, lots more competition in the market. Check out
magazine prices, too.

Stan

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First hand experience on accuracy? Operation?

I've got a stainless Mini-14; very picky about its ammo. With ammo it
likes it's quite reliable; with ammo it doesn't it might as well be a
single-shot (pull trigger, clear jam, pull trigger, clear jam....).
Unfortunately, it's been long enough since I took it out that I don't
remember which works and which doesn't. Barrel heating moves the point
of impact noticeably even with just a five-shot string. Waiting for the
barrel to cool between shots (see single-shot note above) gives
something like a 3" spread at 100 yds.
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be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours;
and this we should do freely and generously. (Benjamin Franklin)

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First hand experience on accuracy? Operation?

I had a 1976 Mini 14 that I gave to my brother
I shot it alot and it became his orchard rifle.

As others have said, the accuracy is so-so. I found
the operation to be very reliable, both with factory
and reloads.

It's biggest plus is the fun factor. It is just
a whole lot of fun to shoot, and it does not look
like a tactical piece to the uninformed.

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First hand experience on accuracy? Operation?

Which version?
The versions up till about 2005 were all over the place when it comes to
being accurate. Some are great and some would be better used as clubs.
However with minor work they can be brought into 1-2" at 100 yards.
Better than that takes real money.

Reliability: I've only had one malfunction related to the gun itself
(installed a buffer wrong and damaged the op-rod) MAGAZINE related
problems abound if using the cheap crap made in the year prior to
clintons gun ban. Use a GOOD mag (factory, Masen, PMI and the early
ramlines)

Keep in mind the Mini-design was NOT intended for super accuracy, it was
intended to be a reliable battle rifle in all conditions, easy to
operate and take down. Able to place rounds into center of mass on a
human target at 100-200 yards.


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Steve W.

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First hand experience on accuracy? Operation?


Can't say first hand. Most of my modern arms are Rugers, that particular model never got
rave reviews by people I know that owned one.

Always liked the look of it though.

Wes

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First hand experience on accuracy? Operation?

You have to take the Mini for what it is. Most people want it to be more
but it's only a mediocre rifle in most areas. They are pretty reliable.
They are pretty durable. They are not very accurate. But they are light,
small, and can hit a man sized target out to a few hundred yards. If
those things are enough for you then it's a decent rifle. If you want
what an AR-15 can do don't get the Mini. That said. I like the Mini-14.
For a ranch, truck gun, or a short range self defense rifle they work
fine. They use them in prisons in the towers too. And as the Goober
said, it's the only thing close to an assault rifle you can have in
California. That's worth something if you live here.

Hawke

On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 01:35:02 -0600, wrote:

First hand experience on accuracy? Operation?
Ii went to the Fort Worth gun show today. Lots of ARs and Mini 14s.
The only non-auto .223 I found was a Savage. Not a $400 improvement on
my old Remington .222. Bought some ammo and went home.