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![]() You mean some of you know how many guns you have...? David |
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On Dec 27, 4:20*pm, "David R.Birch" wrote:
You mean some of you know how many guns you have...? David Apparently only Karl does. None of the other big strong men in this group seem to be willing to put their cards on the table. |
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On Dec 27, 5:51*pm, rangerssuck wrote:
On Dec 27, 4:20*pm, "David R.Birch" wrote: You mean some of you know how many guns you have...? David Apparently only Karl does. None of the other big strong men in this group seem to be willing to put their cards on the table. I, by the way have zero guns. |
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![]() "rangerssuck" wrote in message ... On Dec 27, 5:51 pm, rangerssuck wrote: On Dec 27, 4:20 pm, "David R.Birch" wrote: You mean some of you know how many guns you have...? David Apparently only Karl does. None of the other big strong men in this group seem to be willing to put their cards on the table. I, by the way have zero guns. We can fix that. We could go to the range sometime. I was a certified rifle instructor and no expert with handguns, but I can get you started safely. You might even like it enough to get one. d8-) -- Ed Huntress |
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Ed Huntress wrote:
"rangerssuck" wrote in message ... On Dec 27, 5:51 pm, rangerssuck wrote: On Dec 27, 4:20 pm, "David R.Birch" wrote: You mean some of you know how many guns you have...? David Apparently only Karl does. None of the other big strong men in this group seem to be willing to put their cards on the table. I, by the way have zero guns. We can fix that. We could go to the range sometime. I was a certified rifle instructor and no expert with handguns, but I can get you started safely. You might even like it enough to get one. d8-) My mantra teaching hand gun shooting... "Finger *OFF* the trigger". And "Don't point that thing at me or I'll bitch slay you!" |
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cavelamb wrote:
Ed Huntress wrote: "rangerssuck" wrote in message ... On Dec 27, 5:51 pm, rangerssuck wrote: On Dec 27, 4:20 pm, "David R.Birch" wrote: You mean some of you know how many guns you have...? David Apparently only Karl does. None of the other big strong men in this group seem to be willing to put their cards on the table. I, by the way have zero guns. We can fix that. We could go to the range sometime. I was a certified rifle instructor and no expert with handguns, but I can get you started safely. You might even like it enough to get one. d8-) My mantra teaching hand gun shooting... "Finger *OFF* the trigger". And "Don't point that thing at me or I'll bitch slay you!" SLAP |
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![]() "cavelamb" wrote in message m... Ed Huntress wrote: "rangerssuck" wrote in message ... On Dec 27, 5:51 pm, rangerssuck wrote: On Dec 27, 4:20 pm, "David R.Birch" wrote: You mean some of you know how many guns you have...? David Apparently only Karl does. None of the other big strong men in this group seem to be willing to put their cards on the table. I, by the way have zero guns. We can fix that. We could go to the range sometime. I was a certified rifle instructor and no expert with handguns, but I can get you started safely. You might even like it enough to get one. d8-) My mantra teaching hand gun shooting... "Finger *OFF* the trigger". And "Don't point that thing at me or I'll bitch slay you!" I'm hoping you mean "bitch slap." g Yes, I get out that old NRA manual from my rifle-instructor course every time I take new guys to the range. Rangersucks could join my Liberal Militia. d8-) I'm short of ammo, though, and my favorite range has closed. I have to look around for a new one. Meantime, I only load .32 H&R Magnum and .38 Spl. I have to get some .45 ACP dies, seeing as how we have a shortage. Ranger, I can bring .22, .32 S&W Long (Colt Pocket Positive),. .32 H&R Magnum, .38 Spl., and, if I can get ammo, .45 ACP. You'll have fun. -- Ed Huntress |
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cavelamb wrote:
Ed Huntress wrote: "rangerssuck" wrote in message ... On Dec 27, 5:51 pm, rangerssuck wrote: On Dec 27, 4:20 pm, "David R.Birch" wrote: You mean some of you know how many guns you have...? David Apparently only Karl does. None of the other big strong men in this group seem to be willing to put their cards on the table. I, by the way have zero guns. We can fix that. We could go to the range sometime. I was a certified rifle instructor and no expert with handguns, but I can get you started safely. You might even like it enough to get one. d8-) My mantra teaching hand gun shooting... "Finger *OFF* the trigger". And "Don't point that thing at me or I'll bitch slay you!" "OH MAN, Is he strict!". Sheriff Bart Blazing Saddles |
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![]() "cavelamb" wrote in message m... snip My mantra teaching hand gun shooting... "Finger *OFF* the trigger". And "Don't point that thing at me or I'll bitch slay you!" Have the students repeat the 4 rules over and over, out loud, continuously. They have to become second nature. |
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"Ed Huntress" wrote in
: "rangerssuck" wrote in message . .. On Dec 27, 5:51 pm, rangerssuck wrote: On Dec 27, 4:20 pm, "David R.Birch" wrote: You mean some of you know how many guns you have...? David Apparently only Karl does. None of the other big strong men in this group seem to be willing to put their cards on the table. I, by the way have zero guns. We can fix that. We could go to the range sometime. I was a certified rifle instructor and no expert with handguns, but I can get you started safely. You might even like it enough to get one. d8-) If Johnny goes to school and doesn't learn how to add, he may learn it later, and he's not particularly dangerous. Being a pistol instructor puts much higher demands on your teaching skills. On the basis of a 3 hour safety lecture, I was willing to go into the range the next night and give 15 total strangers loaded handguns. I've taught several hundred people how to shoot, and we never had a serious accident. I typically had an assistant instructor for every 2 or 3 students. By the end of class, most of the students could keep all their shots on a standard 50 foot target. This was at MIT, and we tended to get reasonably bright students, although there were exceptions. I now teach as an assistant instructor with another club. Their course are open to the public. All live firing is done with an instructor working individually with each student. About 15 years ago they had a woman sign up for the course with the sole purpose of committing suicide. She managed to get one shot into her head before an instructor could stop her. She survived, but with extensive brain damage. It still gives me the willies just thinking about it. Doug White |
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![]() "Doug White" wrote in message . .. "Ed Huntress" wrote in : "rangerssuck" wrote in message . .. On Dec 27, 5:51 pm, rangerssuck wrote: On Dec 27, 4:20 pm, "David R.Birch" wrote: You mean some of you know how many guns you have...? David Apparently only Karl does. None of the other big strong men in this group seem to be willing to put their cards on the table. I, by the way have zero guns. We can fix that. We could go to the range sometime. I was a certified rifle instructor and no expert with handguns, but I can get you started safely. You might even like it enough to get one. d8-) If Johnny goes to school and doesn't learn how to add, he may learn it later, and he's not particularly dangerous. Being a pistol instructor puts much higher demands on your teaching skills. On the basis of a 3 hour safety lecture, I was willing to go into the range the next night and give 15 total strangers loaded handguns. I've taught several hundred people how to shoot, and we never had a serious accident. I typically had an assistant instructor for every 2 or 3 students. By the end of class, most of the students could keep all their shots on a standard 50 foot target. This was at MIT, and we tended to get reasonably bright students, although there were exceptions. I now teach as an assistant instructor with another club. Their course are open to the public. All live firing is done with an instructor working individually with each student. 'Sounds like the right way to do it. About 15 years ago they had a woman sign up for the course with the sole purpose of committing suicide. She managed to get one shot into her head before an instructor could stop her. She survived, but with extensive brain damage. It still gives me the willies just thinking about it. Doug White Good God. You never know what occupational hazards will turn up on the job. -- Ed Huntress |
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Doug White wrote:
About 15 years ago they had a woman sign up for the course with the sole purpose of committing suicide. She managed to get one shot into her head before an instructor could stop her. She survived, but with extensive brain damage. It still gives me the willies just thinking about it. Suicide is a selfish act. Wes |
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On Dec 27, 7:34*pm, "Ed Huntress" wrote:
"rangerssuck" wrote in message ... On Dec 27, 5:51 pm, rangerssuck wrote: On Dec 27, 4:20 pm, "David R.Birch" wrote: You mean some of you know how many guns you have...? David Apparently only Karl does. None of the other big strong men in this group seem to be willing to put their cards on the table. I, by the way have zero guns. We can fix that. We could go to the range sometime. I was a certified rifle instructor and no expert with handguns, but I can get you started safely. You might even like it enough to get one. d8-) -- Ed Huntress Ed - Thanks for the offer, and I may take you up on it someday. I'm pretty certain that I mentioned it before, but I'm actually a former NRA member. I used to shoot (a LONG time ago) .22 target rifles. 8th bar sharpshooter is as far as I went with that.On a casual basis, I used to frequent an indoor range on Rt 46 in Lodi (I think, it was maybe 35 years ago). I had a change of directions (maybe you could say I grew up), and haven't touched a rifle or handgun since, except for a couple of turkey shoots at the local police range. Maybe someday, but not likely for self-defense. Just for fun. |
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![]() "rangerssuck" wrote in message ... On Dec 27, 7:34 pm, "Ed Huntress" wrote: "rangerssuck" wrote in message ... On Dec 27, 5:51 pm, rangerssuck wrote: On Dec 27, 4:20 pm, "David R.Birch" wrote: You mean some of you know how many guns you have...? David Apparently only Karl does. None of the other big strong men in this group seem to be willing to put their cards on the table. I, by the way have zero guns. We can fix that. We could go to the range sometime. I was a certified rifle instructor and no expert with handguns, but I can get you started safely. You might even like it enough to get one. d8-) -- Ed Huntress Ed - Thanks for the offer, and I may take you up on it someday. I'm pretty certain that I mentioned it before, but I'm actually a former NRA member. I used to shoot (a LONG time ago) .22 target rifles. 8th bar sharpshooter is as far as I went with that. Ha! Me too! Eight bars. At age 12. My eyes were better then. g On a casual basis, I used to frequent an indoor range on Rt 46 in Lodi (I think, it was maybe 35 years ago). I had a change of directions (maybe you could say I grew up), and haven't touched a rifle or handgun since, except for a couple of turkey shoots at the local police range. Maybe someday, but not likely for self-defense. Just for fun. OK. I much prefer rifles, but there are very few rifle ranges in NJ, unless you join a club. So I shoot handguns. -- Ed Huntress |
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rangerssuck wrote:
I used to frequent an indoor range on Rt 46 in Lodi (I think, it was maybe 35 years ago). Lodi, NJ? -- "Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller |
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I, by the way have zero guns. Good story, stick to it ![]() Wes -- "Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller |
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On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 20:03:17 -0500, Wes wrote:
rangerssuck wrote: I, by the way have zero guns. Good story, stick to it ![]() Wes He probably doesnt. Felons and the mentally disturbed are not allowed firearms. Gunner "I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I travelled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer." -- Benjamin Franklin, /The Encouragement of Idleness/, 1766 |
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On Dec 27, 9:06*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 20:03:17 -0500, Wes wrote: rangerssuck wrote: I, by the way have zero guns. Good story, stick to it ![]() Wes He probably doesnt. Felons and the mentally disturbed are not allowed firearms. Gunner and you're a ****ing moron. |
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On Dec 27, 8:03*pm, Wes wrote:
rangerssuck wrote: I, by the way have zero guns. Good story, stick to it ![]() Wes -- "Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home in their eyes." *Dick Anthony Heller I have no problem sticking to the truth. |
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rangerssuck wrote:
On Dec 27, 5:51 pm, rangerssuck wrote: On Dec 27, 4:20 pm, "David R.Birch" wrote: You mean some of you know how many guns you have...? David Apparently only Karl does. None of the other big strong men in this group seem to be willing to put their cards on the table. I, by the way have zero guns. figures |
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rangerssuck wrote:
Apparently only Karl does. None of the other big strong men in this group seem to be willing to put their cards on the table. Simple rules to maintaining your collection or arms depot depending. 1. Don't brag about how many and what types of guns you have. 2. Secure them properly 3. Remember rule one. This also applies to other valuable possessions. Wes |
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