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You mean some of you know how many guns you have...?

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You mean some of you know how many guns you have...?

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Apparently only Karl does. None of the other big strong men in this
group seem to be willing to put their cards on the table.
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On Dec 27, 4:20*pm, "David R.Birch" wrote:

You mean some of you know how many guns you have...?


David


Apparently only Karl does. None of the other big strong men in this
group seem to be willing to put their cards on the table.


I, by the way have zero guns.
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On Dec 27, 5:51 pm, rangerssuck wrote:
On Dec 27, 4:20 pm, "David R.Birch" wrote:

You mean some of you know how many guns you have...?


David


Apparently only Karl does. None of the other big strong men in this
group seem to be willing to put their cards on the table.


I, by the way have zero guns.


We can fix that. We could go to the range sometime. I was a certified rifle
instructor and no expert with handguns, but I can get you started safely.

You might even like it enough to get one. d8-)

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On Dec 27, 5:51 pm, rangerssuck wrote:
On Dec 27, 4:20 pm, "David R.Birch" wrote:

You mean some of you know how many guns you have...?
David

Apparently only Karl does. None of the other big strong men in this
group seem to be willing to put their cards on the table.


I, by the way have zero guns.


We can fix that. We could go to the range sometime. I was a certified rifle
instructor and no expert with handguns, but I can get you started safely.

You might even like it enough to get one. d8-)


My mantra teaching hand gun shooting...
"Finger *OFF* the trigger".

And "Don't point that thing at me or I'll bitch slay you!"


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On Dec 27, 5:51 pm, rangerssuck wrote:
On Dec 27, 4:20 pm, "David R.Birch" wrote:

You mean some of you know how many guns you have...?
David
Apparently only Karl does. None of the other big strong men in this
group seem to be willing to put their cards on the table.


I, by the way have zero guns.


We can fix that. We could go to the range sometime. I was a certified
rifle instructor and no expert with handguns, but I can get you
started safely.

You might even like it enough to get one. d8-)


My mantra teaching hand gun shooting...
"Finger *OFF* the trigger".

And "Don't point that thing at me or I'll bitch slay you!"

SLAP

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On Dec 27, 5:51 pm, rangerssuck wrote:
On Dec 27, 4:20 pm, "David R.Birch" wrote:

You mean some of you know how many guns you have...?
David
Apparently only Karl does. None of the other big strong men in this
group seem to be willing to put their cards on the table.


I, by the way have zero guns.


We can fix that. We could go to the range sometime. I was a certified
rifle instructor and no expert with handguns, but I can get you started
safely.

You might even like it enough to get one. d8-)


My mantra teaching hand gun shooting...
"Finger *OFF* the trigger".

And "Don't point that thing at me or I'll bitch slay you!"


I'm hoping you mean "bitch slap." g

Yes, I get out that old NRA manual from my rifle-instructor course every
time I take new guys to the range. Rangersucks could join my Liberal
Militia. d8-)

I'm short of ammo, though, and my favorite range has closed. I have to look
around for a new one. Meantime, I only load .32 H&R Magnum and .38 Spl. I
have to get some .45 ACP dies, seeing as how we have a shortage.

Ranger, I can bring .22, .32 S&W Long (Colt Pocket Positive),. .32 H&R
Magnum, .38 Spl., and, if I can get ammo, .45 ACP. You'll have fun.

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On Dec 27, 5:51 pm, rangerssuck wrote:
On Dec 27, 4:20 pm, "David R.Birch" wrote:

You mean some of you know how many guns you have...?
David
Apparently only Karl does. None of the other big strong men in this
group seem to be willing to put their cards on the table.


I, by the way have zero guns.


We can fix that. We could go to the range sometime. I was a certified
rifle instructor and no expert with handguns, but I can get you
started safely.

You might even like it enough to get one. d8-)


My mantra teaching hand gun shooting...
"Finger *OFF* the trigger".

And "Don't point that thing at me or I'll bitch slay you!"



"OH MAN, Is he strict!".
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My mantra teaching hand gun shooting...
"Finger *OFF* the trigger".

And "Don't point that thing at me or I'll bitch slay you!"


Have the students repeat the 4 rules over and over, out loud, continuously.
They have to become second nature.

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.. On Dec 27, 5:51 pm, rangerssuck wrote:
On Dec 27, 4:20 pm, "David R.Birch" wrote:

You mean some of you know how many guns you have...?


David


Apparently only Karl does. None of the other big strong men in this
group seem to be willing to put their cards on the table.


I, by the way have zero guns.


We can fix that. We could go to the range sometime. I was a certified
rifle instructor and no expert with handguns, but I can get you
started safely.

You might even like it enough to get one. d8-)


If Johnny goes to school and doesn't learn how to add, he may learn it
later, and he's not particularly dangerous. Being a pistol instructor puts
much higher demands on your teaching skills. On the basis of a 3 hour
safety lecture, I was willing to go into the range the next night and give
15 total strangers loaded handguns. I've taught several hundred people how
to shoot, and we never had a serious accident. I typically had an
assistant instructor for every 2 or 3 students. By the end of class, most
of the students could keep all their shots on a standard 50 foot target.
This was at MIT, and we tended to get reasonably bright students, although
there were exceptions.

I now teach as an assistant instructor with another club. Their course are
open to the public. All live firing is done with an instructor working
individually with each student. About 15 years ago they had a woman sign
up for the course with the sole purpose of committing suicide. She managed
to get one shot into her head before an instructor could stop her. She
survived, but with extensive brain damage. It still gives me the willies
just thinking about it.

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.. On Dec 27, 5:51 pm, rangerssuck wrote:
On Dec 27, 4:20 pm, "David R.Birch" wrote:

You mean some of you know how many guns you have...?

David

Apparently only Karl does. None of the other big strong men in this
group seem to be willing to put their cards on the table.


I, by the way have zero guns.


We can fix that. We could go to the range sometime. I was a certified
rifle instructor and no expert with handguns, but I can get you
started safely.

You might even like it enough to get one. d8-)


If Johnny goes to school and doesn't learn how to add, he may learn it
later, and he's not particularly dangerous. Being a pistol instructor
puts
much higher demands on your teaching skills. On the basis of a 3 hour
safety lecture, I was willing to go into the range the next night and give
15 total strangers loaded handguns. I've taught several hundred people
how
to shoot, and we never had a serious accident. I typically had an
assistant instructor for every 2 or 3 students. By the end of class, most
of the students could keep all their shots on a standard 50 foot target.
This was at MIT, and we tended to get reasonably bright students, although
there were exceptions.

I now teach as an assistant instructor with another club. Their course
are
open to the public. All live firing is done with an instructor working
individually with each student.


'Sounds like the right way to do it.

About 15 years ago they had a woman sign
up for the course with the sole purpose of committing suicide. She
managed
to get one shot into her head before an instructor could stop her. She
survived, but with extensive brain damage. It still gives me the willies
just thinking about it.

Doug White


Good God. You never know what occupational hazards will turn up on the job.

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About 15 years ago they had a woman sign
up for the course with the sole purpose of committing suicide. She managed
to get one shot into her head before an instructor could stop her. She
survived, but with extensive brain damage. It still gives me the willies
just thinking about it.


Suicide is a selfish act.

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On Dec 27, 7:34*pm, "Ed Huntress" wrote:
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On Dec 27, 5:51 pm, rangerssuck wrote:

On Dec 27, 4:20 pm, "David R.Birch" wrote:


You mean some of you know how many guns you have...?


David


Apparently only Karl does. None of the other big strong men in this
group seem to be willing to put their cards on the table.
I, by the way have zero guns.


We can fix that. We could go to the range sometime. I was a certified rifle
instructor and no expert with handguns, but I can get you started safely.

You might even like it enough to get one. d8-)

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Ed -

Thanks for the offer, and I may take you up on it someday. I'm pretty
certain that I mentioned it before, but I'm actually a former NRA
member. I used to shoot (a LONG time ago) .22 target rifles. 8th bar
sharpshooter is as far as I went with that.On a casual basis, I used
to frequent an indoor range on Rt 46 in Lodi (I think, it was maybe 35
years ago). I had a change of directions (maybe you could say I grew
up), and haven't touched a rifle or handgun since, except for a couple
of turkey shoots at the local police range.

Maybe someday, but not likely for self-defense. Just for fun.
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On Dec 27, 5:51 pm, rangerssuck wrote:

On Dec 27, 4:20 pm, "David R.Birch" wrote:


You mean some of you know how many guns you have...?


David


Apparently only Karl does. None of the other big strong men in this
group seem to be willing to put their cards on the table.
I, by the way have zero guns.


We can fix that. We could go to the range sometime. I was a certified
rifle
instructor and no expert with handguns, but I can get you started safely.

You might even like it enough to get one. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress


Ed -

Thanks for the offer, and I may take you up on it someday. I'm pretty
certain that I mentioned it before, but I'm actually a former NRA
member. I used to shoot (a LONG time ago) .22 target rifles. 8th bar
sharpshooter is as far as I went with that.


Ha! Me too! Eight bars. At age 12. My eyes were better then. g

On a casual basis, I used
to frequent an indoor range on Rt 46 in Lodi (I think, it was maybe 35
years ago). I had a change of directions (maybe you could say I grew
up), and haven't touched a rifle or handgun since, except for a couple
of turkey shoots at the local police range.

Maybe someday, but not likely for self-defense. Just for fun.


OK. I much prefer rifles, but there are very few rifle ranges in NJ, unless
you join a club. So I shoot handguns.

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I used
to frequent an indoor range on Rt 46 in Lodi (I think, it was maybe 35
years ago).


Lodi, NJ?
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I, by the way have zero guns.



Good story, stick to it

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On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 20:03:17 -0500, Wes wrote:

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I, by the way have zero guns.



Good story, stick to it

Wes



He probably doesnt. Felons and the mentally disturbed are not allowed
firearms.


Gunner

"I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the
means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not
making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of
it. In my youth I travelled much, and I observed in different
countries, that the more public provisions were made for the
poor the less they provided for themselves, and of course became
poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the
more they did for themselves, and became richer." -- Benjamin
Franklin, /The Encouragement of Idleness/, 1766
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On Dec 27, 9:06*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
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I, by the way have zero guns.


Good story, stick to it


Wes


He probably doesnt. Felons and the mentally disturbed are not allowed
firearms.

Gunner

and you're a ****ing moron.
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On Dec 27, 8:03*pm, Wes wrote:
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I, by the way have zero guns.


Good story, stick to it

Wes
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I have no problem sticking to the truth.
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On Dec 27, 4:20 pm, "David R.Birch" wrote:

You mean some of you know how many guns you have...?
David

Apparently only Karl does. None of the other big strong men in this
group seem to be willing to put their cards on the table.


I, by the way have zero guns.


figures


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Apparently only Karl does. None of the other big strong men in this
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Simple rules to maintaining your collection or arms depot depending.

1. Don't brag about how many and what types of guns you have.

2. Secure them properly

3. Remember rule one.

This also applies to other valuable possessions.


Wes
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