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You mean some of you know how many guns you have...?

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Apparently only Karl does. None of the other big strong men in this
group seem to be willing to put their cards on the table.
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You mean some of you know how many guns you have...?


David


Apparently only Karl does. None of the other big strong men in this
group seem to be willing to put their cards on the table.


I, by the way have zero guns.
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Apparently only Karl does. None of the other big strong men in this
group seem to be willing to put their cards on the table.



Simple rules to maintaining your collection or arms depot depending.

1. Don't brag about how many and what types of guns you have.

2. Secure them properly

3. Remember rule one.

This also applies to other valuable possessions.


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On Dec 27, 4:20 pm, "David R.Birch" wrote:

You mean some of you know how many guns you have...?


David


Apparently only Karl does. None of the other big strong men in this
group seem to be willing to put their cards on the table.


I, by the way have zero guns.


We can fix that. We could go to the range sometime. I was a certified rifle
instructor and no expert with handguns, but I can get you started safely.

You might even like it enough to get one. d8-)

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On Dec 27, 4:20 pm, "David R.Birch" wrote:

You mean some of you know how many guns you have...?
David

Apparently only Karl does. None of the other big strong men in this
group seem to be willing to put their cards on the table.


I, by the way have zero guns.


We can fix that. We could go to the range sometime. I was a certified rifle
instructor and no expert with handguns, but I can get you started safely.

You might even like it enough to get one. d8-)


My mantra teaching hand gun shooting...
"Finger *OFF* the trigger".

And "Don't point that thing at me or I'll bitch slay you!"
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On Dec 27, 5:51 pm, rangerssuck wrote:
On Dec 27, 4:20 pm, "David R.Birch" wrote:

You mean some of you know how many guns you have...?
David
Apparently only Karl does. None of the other big strong men in this
group seem to be willing to put their cards on the table.


I, by the way have zero guns.


We can fix that. We could go to the range sometime. I was a certified
rifle instructor and no expert with handguns, but I can get you
started safely.

You might even like it enough to get one. d8-)


My mantra teaching hand gun shooting...
"Finger *OFF* the trigger".

And "Don't point that thing at me or I'll bitch slay you!"

SLAP

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I, by the way have zero guns.



Good story, stick to it

Wes
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On Dec 27, 5:51 pm, rangerssuck wrote:
On Dec 27, 4:20 pm, "David R.Birch" wrote:

You mean some of you know how many guns you have...?
David
Apparently only Karl does. None of the other big strong men in this
group seem to be willing to put their cards on the table.


I, by the way have zero guns.


We can fix that. We could go to the range sometime. I was a certified
rifle instructor and no expert with handguns, but I can get you started
safely.

You might even like it enough to get one. d8-)


My mantra teaching hand gun shooting...
"Finger *OFF* the trigger".

And "Don't point that thing at me or I'll bitch slay you!"


I'm hoping you mean "bitch slap." g

Yes, I get out that old NRA manual from my rifle-instructor course every
time I take new guys to the range. Rangersucks could join my Liberal
Militia. d8-)

I'm short of ammo, though, and my favorite range has closed. I have to look
around for a new one. Meantime, I only load .32 H&R Magnum and .38 Spl. I
have to get some .45 ACP dies, seeing as how we have a shortage.

Ranger, I can bring .22, .32 S&W Long (Colt Pocket Positive),. .32 H&R
Magnum, .38 Spl., and, if I can get ammo, .45 ACP. You'll have fun.

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On Dec 27, 5:51 pm, rangerssuck wrote:
On Dec 27, 4:20 pm, "David R.Birch" wrote:

You mean some of you know how many guns you have...?
David
Apparently only Karl does. None of the other big strong men in this
group seem to be willing to put their cards on the table.

I, by the way have zero guns.

We can fix that. We could go to the range sometime. I was a certified
rifle instructor and no expert with handguns, but I can get you started
safely.

You might even like it enough to get one. d8-)


My mantra teaching hand gun shooting...
"Finger *OFF* the trigger".

And "Don't point that thing at me or I'll bitch slay you!"

SLAP


Wphew! g

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On Dec 27, 5:51 pm, rangerssuck wrote:
On Dec 27, 4:20 pm, "David R.Birch" wrote:

You mean some of you know how many guns you have...?
David
Apparently only Karl does. None of the other big strong men in this
group seem to be willing to put their cards on the table.

I, by the way have zero guns.

We can fix that. We could go to the range sometime. I was a certified
rifle instructor and no expert with handguns, but I can get you
started safely.

You might even like it enough to get one. d8-)


My mantra teaching hand gun shooting...
"Finger *OFF* the trigger".

And "Don't point that thing at me or I'll bitch slay you!"

SLAP


Slaying students is bad for business...
They almost never pay their bills then.
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cavelamb wrote:
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On Dec 27, 5:51 pm, rangerssuck wrote:
On Dec 27, 4:20 pm, "David R.Birch" wrote:

You mean some of you know how many guns you have...?
David
Apparently only Karl does. None of the other big strong men in this
group seem to be willing to put their cards on the table.

I, by the way have zero guns.

We can fix that. We could go to the range sometime. I was a certified
rifle instructor and no expert with handguns, but I can get you started
safely.

You might even like it enough to get one. d8-)


My mantra teaching hand gun shooting...
"Finger *OFF* the trigger".

And "Don't point that thing at me or I'll bitch slay you!"

SLAP


Slaying students is bad for business...
They almost never pay their bills then.


Yeah, it's a little harsh. However, I sympathize with the feeling.

My dad, a former Marine (and Expert with the .45) used to tell about the
time a new recruit turned around from his shooting position to ask a
question and swung the gun behind the firing line. He was greeted with a
punch to the jaw from the instructor that knocked him cold.

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On Dec 27, 4:20 pm, "David R.Birch" wrote:

You mean some of you know how many guns you have...?
David
Apparently only Karl does. None of the other big strong men in this
group seem to be willing to put their cards on the table.


I, by the way have zero guns.


We can fix that. We could go to the range sometime. I was a certified
rifle instructor and no expert with handguns, but I can get you
started safely.

You might even like it enough to get one. d8-)


My mantra teaching hand gun shooting...
"Finger *OFF* the trigger".

And "Don't point that thing at me or I'll bitch slay you!"



"OH MAN, Is he strict!".
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cavelamb wrote:
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On Dec 27, 5:51 pm, rangerssuck wrote:
On Dec 27, 4:20 pm, "David R.Birch" wrote:

You mean some of you know how many guns you have...?
David
Apparently only Karl does. None of the other big strong men in this
group seem to be willing to put their cards on the table.
I, by the way have zero guns.
We can fix that. We could go to the range sometime. I was a certified
rifle instructor and no expert with handguns, but I can get you started
safely.

You might even like it enough to get one. d8-)

My mantra teaching hand gun shooting...
"Finger *OFF* the trigger".

And "Don't point that thing at me or I'll bitch slay you!"
SLAP

Slaying students is bad for business...
They almost never pay their bills then.


Yeah, it's a little harsh. However, I sympathize with the feeling.

My dad, a former Marine (and Expert with the .45) used to tell about the
time a new recruit turned around from his shooting position to ask a
question and swung the gun behind the firing line. He was greeted with a
punch to the jaw from the instructor that knocked him cold.


Well, that WILL help him rememner...

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"Finger *OFF* the trigger".

And "Don't point that thing at me or I'll bitch slay you!"


Have the students repeat the 4 rules over and over, out loud, continuously.
They have to become second nature.



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On Dec 27, 4:20 pm, "David R.Birch" wrote:

You mean some of you know how many guns you have...?


David


Apparently only Karl does. None of the other big strong men in this
group seem to be willing to put their cards on the table.


I, by the way have zero guns.


We can fix that. We could go to the range sometime. I was a certified
rifle instructor and no expert with handguns, but I can get you
started safely.

You might even like it enough to get one. d8-)


If Johnny goes to school and doesn't learn how to add, he may learn it
later, and he's not particularly dangerous. Being a pistol instructor puts
much higher demands on your teaching skills. On the basis of a 3 hour
safety lecture, I was willing to go into the range the next night and give
15 total strangers loaded handguns. I've taught several hundred people how
to shoot, and we never had a serious accident. I typically had an
assistant instructor for every 2 or 3 students. By the end of class, most
of the students could keep all their shots on a standard 50 foot target.
This was at MIT, and we tended to get reasonably bright students, although
there were exceptions.

I now teach as an assistant instructor with another club. Their course are
open to the public. All live firing is done with an instructor working
individually with each student. About 15 years ago they had a woman sign
up for the course with the sole purpose of committing suicide. She managed
to get one shot into her head before an instructor could stop her. She
survived, but with extensive brain damage. It still gives me the willies
just thinking about it.

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.. On Dec 27, 5:51 pm, rangerssuck wrote:
On Dec 27, 4:20 pm, "David R.Birch" wrote:

You mean some of you know how many guns you have...?

David

Apparently only Karl does. None of the other big strong men in this
group seem to be willing to put their cards on the table.


I, by the way have zero guns.


We can fix that. We could go to the range sometime. I was a certified
rifle instructor and no expert with handguns, but I can get you
started safely.

You might even like it enough to get one. d8-)


If Johnny goes to school and doesn't learn how to add, he may learn it
later, and he's not particularly dangerous. Being a pistol instructor
puts
much higher demands on your teaching skills. On the basis of a 3 hour
safety lecture, I was willing to go into the range the next night and give
15 total strangers loaded handguns. I've taught several hundred people
how
to shoot, and we never had a serious accident. I typically had an
assistant instructor for every 2 or 3 students. By the end of class, most
of the students could keep all their shots on a standard 50 foot target.
This was at MIT, and we tended to get reasonably bright students, although
there were exceptions.

I now teach as an assistant instructor with another club. Their course
are
open to the public. All live firing is done with an instructor working
individually with each student.


'Sounds like the right way to do it.

About 15 years ago they had a woman sign
up for the course with the sole purpose of committing suicide. She
managed
to get one shot into her head before an instructor could stop her. She
survived, but with extensive brain damage. It still gives me the willies
just thinking about it.

Doug White


Good God. You never know what occupational hazards will turn up on the job.

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I, by the way have zero guns.



Good story, stick to it

Wes



He probably doesnt. Felons and the mentally disturbed are not allowed
firearms.


Gunner

"I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the
means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not
making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of
it. In my youth I travelled much, and I observed in different
countries, that the more public provisions were made for the
poor the less they provided for themselves, and of course became
poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the
more they did for themselves, and became richer." -- Benjamin
Franklin, /The Encouragement of Idleness/, 1766
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On Dec 27, 5:51 pm, rangerssuck wrote:

On Dec 27, 4:20 pm, "David R.Birch" wrote:


You mean some of you know how many guns you have...?


David


Apparently only Karl does. None of the other big strong men in this
group seem to be willing to put their cards on the table.
I, by the way have zero guns.


We can fix that. We could go to the range sometime. I was a certified rifle
instructor and no expert with handguns, but I can get you started safely.

You might even like it enough to get one. d8-)

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Ed -

Thanks for the offer, and I may take you up on it someday. I'm pretty
certain that I mentioned it before, but I'm actually a former NRA
member. I used to shoot (a LONG time ago) .22 target rifles. 8th bar
sharpshooter is as far as I went with that.On a casual basis, I used
to frequent an indoor range on Rt 46 in Lodi (I think, it was maybe 35
years ago). I had a change of directions (maybe you could say I grew
up), and haven't touched a rifle or handgun since, except for a couple
of turkey shoots at the local police range.

Maybe someday, but not likely for self-defense. Just for fun.
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I, by the way have zero guns.


Good story, stick to it


Wes


He probably doesnt. Felons and the mentally disturbed are not allowed
firearms.

Gunner

and you're a ****ing moron.


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I, by the way have zero guns.


Good story, stick to it

Wes
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government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." *Dick Anthony Heller


I have no problem sticking to the truth.
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On Dec 27, 5:51 pm, rangerssuck wrote:

On Dec 27, 4:20 pm, "David R.Birch" wrote:


You mean some of you know how many guns you have...?


David


Apparently only Karl does. None of the other big strong men in this
group seem to be willing to put their cards on the table.
I, by the way have zero guns.


We can fix that. We could go to the range sometime. I was a certified
rifle
instructor and no expert with handguns, but I can get you started safely.

You might even like it enough to get one. d8-)

--
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Ed -

Thanks for the offer, and I may take you up on it someday. I'm pretty
certain that I mentioned it before, but I'm actually a former NRA
member. I used to shoot (a LONG time ago) .22 target rifles. 8th bar
sharpshooter is as far as I went with that.


Ha! Me too! Eight bars. At age 12. My eyes were better then. g

On a casual basis, I used
to frequent an indoor range on Rt 46 in Lodi (I think, it was maybe 35
years ago). I had a change of directions (maybe you could say I grew
up), and haven't touched a rifle or handgun since, except for a couple
of turkey shoots at the local police range.

Maybe someday, but not likely for self-defense. Just for fun.


OK. I much prefer rifles, but there are very few rifle ranges in NJ, unless
you join a club. So I shoot handguns.

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On Dec 27, 5:51 pm, rangerssuck wrote:
On Dec 27, 4:20 pm, "David R.Birch" wrote:

You mean some of you know how many guns you have...?
David
Apparently only Karl does. None of the other big strong men in this
group seem to be willing to put their cards on the table.

I, by the way have zero guns.

We can fix that. We could go to the range sometime. I was a certified
rifle instructor and no expert with handguns, but I can get you started
safely.

You might even like it enough to get one. d8-)


My mantra teaching hand gun shooting...
"Finger *OFF* the trigger".

And "Don't point that thing at me or I'll bitch slay you!"

SLAP


I like the first one better. One of the guys in one of my classes was
tossed for that. "Get your **** and leave!" was all the instructor said.

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He probably doesnt. Felons and the mentally disturbed are not allowed
firearms.

Gunner


Hey, I resemble that remark! Well, half of it.

Steve


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He probably doesnt. Felons and the mentally disturbed are not allowed
firearms.

Gunner


Hey, I resemble that remark! Well, half of it.

Steve

I really dont ..dont..dont want to know which half.


Gunner

"I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the
means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not
making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of
it. In my youth I travelled much, and I observed in different
countries, that the more public provisions were made for the
poor the less they provided for themselves, and of course became
poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the
more they did for themselves, and became richer." -- Benjamin
Franklin, /The Encouragement of Idleness/, 1766


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My dad, a former Marine (and Expert with the .45) used to tell about the
time a new recruit turned around from his shooting position to ask a
question and swung the gun behind the firing line. He was greeted with a
punch to the jaw from the instructor that knocked him cold.


Well, that WILL help him rememner...


After his buddies tell him what happened

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About 15 years ago they had a woman sign
up for the course with the sole purpose of committing suicide. She managed
to get one shot into her head before an instructor could stop her. She
survived, but with extensive brain damage. It still gives me the willies
just thinking about it.


Suicide is a selfish act.

Wes
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I used
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years ago).


Lodi, NJ?
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About 15 years ago they had a woman sign
up for the course with the sole purpose of committing suicide. She
managed
to get one shot into her head before an instructor could stop her. She
survived, but with extensive brain damage. It still gives me the willies
just thinking about it.


Suicide is a selfish act.

Wes


I think two of those have happened at gun ranges in Las Vegas. Just renting
the lane, not taking lessons.

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On Dec 28, 10:15*am, Wes wrote:
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I used
to frequent an indoor range on Rt 46 in Lodi (I think, it was maybe 35
years ago).


Lodi, NJ?
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." *Dick Anthony Heller


Yes, if I remember correctly. Big sign out front: "GUNS & AMMO" Lodi,
Teterboro, Little Ferry, somewhere in that neighborhood.


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On Dec 28, 10:15*am, Wes wrote:
rangerssuck wrote:
I used
to frequent an indoor range on Rt 46 in Lodi (I think, it was maybe 35
years ago).


Lodi, NJ?
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." *Dick Anthony Heller


Yes, if I remember correctly. Big sign out front: "GUNS & AMMO" Lodi,
Teterboro, Little Ferry, somewhere in that neighborhood.


Interesting. My mom remarried. We used to spend a week or so every year at 464 Fahnstock
Ave in Lodi, NJ visiting my adopta dad's family. That was back in the 60's and up to mid
70's.

Dads mom and deceased father used to have a farm in Lodi. Not understanding property
taxes and being illiterate, they lost most of it. They were Polish immigrants.

I'm sure the house has been torn down long ago to put something else there.


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I used
to frequent an indoor range on Rt 46 in Lodi (I think, it was maybe 35
years ago).


Lodi, NJ?
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." *Dick Anthony Heller


Yes, if I remember correctly. Big sign out front: "GUNS & AMMO" Lodi,
Teterboro, Little Ferry, somewhere in that neighborhood.


Interesting. *My mom remarried. *We used to spend a week or so every year at 464 Fahnstock
Ave in Lodi, NJ visiting my adopta dad's family. *That was back in the 60's and up to mid
70's.

Dads mom and deceased father used to have a farm in Lodi. *Not understanding property
taxes and being illiterate, they lost most of it. *They were Polish immigrants.

I'm sure the house has been torn down long ago to put something else there. *

Wes


Well Google maps doesn't know that street. I'd imagine that the farm
is long, long, gone and probably replaced by a strip mall, ticky-tacky
houses or a tank farm. Lodi is generally not one of the more
picturesque towns in the area. A genuine victim of urban sprawl.
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On Dec 28, 10:17 pm, Wes wrote:
rangerssuck wrote:
On Dec 28, 10:15 am, Wes wrote:
rangerssuck wrote:
I used
to frequent an indoor range on Rt 46 in Lodi (I think, it was maybe 35
years ago).


Lodi, NJ?
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller


Yes, if I remember correctly. Big sign out front: "GUNS & AMMO" Lodi,
Teterboro, Little Ferry, somewhere in that neighborhood.


Interesting. My mom remarried. We used to spend a week or so every year at
464 Fahnstock
Ave in Lodi, NJ visiting my adopta dad's family. That was back in the 60's
and up to mid
70's.

Dads mom and deceased father used to have a farm in Lodi. Not
understanding property
taxes and being illiterate, they lost most of it. They were Polish
immigrants.

I'm sure the house has been torn down long ago to put something else
there.

Wes


Well Google maps doesn't know that street. I'd imagine that the farm
is long, long, gone and probably replaced by a strip mall, ticky-tacky
houses or a tank farm. Lodi is generally not one of the more
picturesque towns in the area. A genuine victim of urban sprawl.


It's hard to imagine farms in Lodi. I used to work in Saddle Brook, right up
the street. No farms now, pard'.

There is one farm left in Edison, actually a horse farm, and one swamp.
After that it will be wall-to-wall sprawl.

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It's hard to imagine farms in Lodi. I used to work in Saddle Brook, right up
the street. No farms now, pard'.



Oh, by the time we were visiting, the farm was long gone. As I said, they didn't read and
the notice that their property was going up on tax sale was not understood. Grandma in a
small house on a remaining bit of the property. The date they had the farm was most likey
in the 1920's.

Wes

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It's hard to imagine farms in Lodi. I used to work in Saddle Brook, right
up
the street. No farms now, pard'.



Oh, by the time we were visiting, the farm was long gone. As I said, they
didn't read and
the notice that their property was going up on tax sale was not
understood. Grandma in a
small house on a remaining bit of the property. The date they had the
farm was most likey
in the 1920's.

Wes


Yeah, the '20s sound reasonable. Lodi is in that packed area of population
that makes NJ the most densely populated state in the nation. I'm on the
extreme southern edge of that sprawl. A mile from my house is a county park
with a small lake that's completely surrounded by development. But when my
uncle moved here, in 1948, he used to hunt rabbits with his beagle and
his12-guage, down in that swamp that is now a lake.

It's sad to hear about you're family's little farm. Bad things happen like
that.

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On Dec 27, 4:20 pm, "David R.Birch" wrote:

You mean some of you know how many guns you have...?
David

Apparently only Karl does. None of the other big strong men in this
group seem to be willing to put their cards on the table.


I, by the way have zero guns.


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It's hard to imagine farms in Lodi. I used to work in Saddle Brook, right
up
the street. No farms now, pard'.


Oh, by the time we were visiting, the farm was long gone. *As I said, they
didn't read and
the notice that their property was going up on tax sale was not
understood. *Grandma in a
small house on a remaining bit of the property. *The date they had the
farm was most likey
in the 1920's.


Wes


Yeah, the '20s sound reasonable. Lodi is in that packed area of population
that makes NJ the most densely populated state in the nation. I'm on the
extreme southern edge of that sprawl. A mile from my house is a county park
with a small lake that's completely surrounded by development. But when my
uncle moved here, in 1948, he used to hunt rabbits with his beagle and
his12-guage, down in that swamp that is now a lake.

It's sad to hear about you're family's little farm. Bad things happen like
that.

--
Ed Huntress


My brother lives on 2 acres in Monmouth County. When he moved there 20
or so years ago, he was surrounded by woods. Now he's surrounded by
townhouses.

I just had a talk with a guy who owns one of the last remaining farms
in New Paltz, NY. He said the neighbors give him poisonous looks,
wishing he would sell so they could build more McMansions.

Every time I drive through Sussex County, NJ, I'm saddened by the
declining number of farms and the increasing number of huge houses.

And they call that "progress."
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On Dec 29, 11:08 am, "Ed Huntress" wrote:
"Wes" wrote in message

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"Ed Huntress" wrote:


It's hard to imagine farms in Lodi. I used to work in Saddle Brook,
right
up
the street. No farms now, pard'.


Oh, by the time we were visiting, the farm was long gone. As I said,
they
didn't read and
the notice that their property was going up on tax sale was not
understood. Grandma in a
small house on a remaining bit of the property. The date they had the
farm was most likey
in the 1920's.


Wes


Yeah, the '20s sound reasonable. Lodi is in that packed area of population
that makes NJ the most densely populated state in the nation. I'm on the
extreme southern edge of that sprawl. A mile from my house is a county
park
with a small lake that's completely surrounded by development. But when my
uncle moved here, in 1948, he used to hunt rabbits with his beagle and
his12-guage, down in that swamp that is now a lake.

It's sad to hear about you're family's little farm. Bad things happen like
that.

--
Ed Huntress


My brother lives on 2 acres in Monmouth County. When he moved there 20
or so years ago, he was surrounded by woods. Now he's surrounded by
townhouses.

I just had a talk with a guy who owns one of the last remaining farms
in New Paltz, NY. He said the neighbors give him poisonous looks,
wishing he would sell so they could build more McMansions.

Every time I drive through Sussex County, NJ, I'm saddened by the
declining number of farms and the increasing number of huge houses.

And they call that "progress."


I call it "sprawl."

My parents' last house in Princeton (actually in Rocky Hill) was surrounded
by woods and farms, as late at the late '70s. I could walk to Rock Brook,
which was a trout stream in the spring. Now it's all developments. If you
live long enough, I guess you see it everywhere.

There are no chickens anymore, in the neighborhood where I was born in
Vineland, either. There are still lots of low-roofed houses, though, if you
know what I mean. d8-) (Chicken coops converted into houses)

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I just had a talk with a guy who owns one of the last remaining farms
in New Paltz, NY. He said the neighbors give him poisonous looks,
wishing he would sell so they could build more McMansions.


Might be interesting to survey those neighbors opinions on the loss of
the rain forests.
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I just had a talk with a guy who owns one of the last remaining farms
in New Paltz, NY. He said the neighbors give him poisonous looks,
wishing he would sell so they could build more McMansions.


Might be interesting to survey those neighbors opinions on the loss of
the rain forests.

reply: I know the first thing I do every morning is to go ask what the
neighbors think. Of course I don't get a lot done, but I know what they
think. But then, I can't get a lot done, because each of them has a
different answer and opinion of the problem, so I do nothing and go nowhere.
Last time I had neighbors like that, I moved, and the problem resolved
instantly. I sold the house to a Brazilian couple who painted it bright
yellow and key lime and put up a lot of wrought iron with all the
decorations painted BRIGHT glow in the dark colors. I had many other
offers, but the Brazilians seemed like the right way to go. Scuttlebutt got
back that they were doing weird things with chickens and goats in the back
yard with lots of chanting.

Probably to ward off all those poisonous looks.

Went by there, and now the house is in foreclosure, so it's getting pretty
decrepit looking. But the yellow and key lime is still blazing away.

Steve


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