September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech.
Probably about how to snitch on their parents.

This is scary. This is sick.

Steve

"SteveB" wrote in message
...
September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech.
Probably about how to snitch on their parents.

This is scary. This is sick.

Steve

Damn! Look at this, from Rightpundits.com:

"In yet one more historic moment for this White House, Barack Obama will
hold a nationwide speech for school children. Apparently, The One will
challenge students to work hard, set educational goals, and take
responsibility for their learning. He will also call for a "shared
responsibility and commitment" on the part of students, parents and
educators to ensure that every child in every school receives the best
education possible so they can compete in the global economy for good jobs
and live rewarding and productive lives as American citizens."

Man, if that doesn't scare the hell out of you, what will? The sick *******s
want our kids to work hard and take responsibility!

How will they ever learn to be a good, upstanding redneck if they listen to
that? What will become of conservatives?

You're right, Steve. There's some real sickness here. 'Hope you get well
soon. g

--
Ed Huntress

Ed Huntress wrote:

"SteveB" wrote in message
...
September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech.
Probably about how to snitch on their parents.

This is scary. This is sick.

Steve

Damn! Look at this, from Rightpundits.com:

"In yet one more historic moment for this White House, Barack Obama will
hold a nationwide speech for school children. Apparently, The One will
challenge students to work hard, set educational goals, and take
responsibility for their learning. He will also call for a "shared
responsibility and commitment" on the part of students, parents and
educators to ensure that every child in every school receives the best
education possible so they can compete in the global economy for good jobs
and live rewarding and productive lives as American citizens."

Man, if that doesn't scare the hell out of you, what will? The sick *******s
want our kids to work hard and take responsibility!

How will they ever learn to be a good, upstanding redneck if they listen to
that? What will become of conservatives?

You're right, Steve. There's some real sickness here. 'Hope you get well
soon. g

--
Ed Huntress

Good thing I never fell for any of that type of crap and never joined as
a good little sheep in your great society.

"Pete C." wrote in message
ster.com...

Ed Huntress wrote:

"SteveB" wrote in message
...
September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech.
Probably about how to snitch on their parents.

This is scary. This is sick.

Steve

Damn! Look at this, from Rightpundits.com:

"In yet one more historic moment for this White House, Barack Obama will
hold a nationwide speech for school children. Apparently, The One will
challenge students to work hard, set educational goals, and take
responsibility for their learning. He will also call for a "shared
responsibility and commitment" on the part of students, parents and
educators to ensure that every child in every school receives the best
education possible so they can compete in the global economy for good
jobs
and live rewarding and productive lives as American citizens."

Man, if that doesn't scare the hell out of you, what will? The sick
*******s
want our kids to work hard and take responsibility!

How will they ever learn to be a good, upstanding redneck if they listen
to
that? What will become of conservatives?

You're right, Steve. There's some real sickness here. 'Hope you get well
soon. g

--
Ed Huntress

Good thing I never fell for any of that type of crap and never joined as
a good little sheep in your great society.

In which society are you a good little sheep then, Pete? Is that the
Malcontents and Birthers? Or the Dropouts?

I'm trying to figure out what you guys have against telling kids they should
work hard and be responsible. But then, you seem to have a lot of attitudes
that are hard to figure out.

--
Ed Huntress

Ed Huntress wrote:

"Pete C." wrote in message
ster.com...

Ed Huntress wrote:

"SteveB" wrote in message
...
September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech.
Probably about how to snitch on their parents.

This is scary. This is sick.

Steve

Damn! Look at this, from Rightpundits.com:

"In yet one more historic moment for this White House, Barack Obama will
hold a nationwide speech for school children. Apparently, The One will
challenge students to work hard, set educational goals, and take
responsibility for their learning. He will also call for a "shared
responsibility and commitment" on the part of students, parents and
educators to ensure that every child in every school receives the best
education possible so they can compete in the global economy for good
jobs
and live rewarding and productive lives as American citizens."

Man, if that doesn't scare the hell out of you, what will? The sick
*******s
want our kids to work hard and take responsibility!

How will they ever learn to be a good, upstanding redneck if they listen
to
that? What will become of conservatives?

You're right, Steve. There's some real sickness here. 'Hope you get well
soon. g

--
Ed Huntress

Good thing I never fell for any of that type of crap and never joined as
a good little sheep in your great society.

In which society are you a good little sheep then, Pete? Is that the
Malcontents and Birthers? Or the Dropouts?

None of the above.


I'm trying to figure out what you guys have against telling kids they should
work hard and be responsible. But then, you seem to have a lot of attitudes
that are hard to figure out.

I just happen to realize that there is no legitimacy in the US or any
other government. The entire thing is a house of cards built on a
foundation of violence. I suppose you would say that makes me an
anarchist, but that isn't true either.

"Pete C." wrote in message
ster.com...

Ed Huntress wrote:

"Pete C." wrote in message
ster.com...

Ed Huntress wrote:

"SteveB" wrote in message
...
September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a
speech.
Probably about how to snitch on their parents.

This is scary. This is sick.

Steve

Damn! Look at this, from Rightpundits.com:

"In yet one more historic moment for this White House, Barack Obama
will
hold a nationwide speech for school children. Apparently, The One will
challenge students to work hard, set educational goals, and take
responsibility for their learning. He will also call for a "shared
responsibility and commitment" on the part of students, parents and
educators to ensure that every child in every school receives the best
education possible so they can compete in the global economy for good
jobs
and live rewarding and productive lives as American citizens."

Man, if that doesn't scare the hell out of you, what will? The sick
*******s
want our kids to work hard and take responsibility!

How will they ever learn to be a good, upstanding redneck if they
listen
to
that? What will become of conservatives?

You're right, Steve. There's some real sickness here. 'Hope you get
well
soon. g

--
Ed Huntress

Good thing I never fell for any of that type of crap and never joined
as
a good little sheep in your great society.

In which society are you a good little sheep then, Pete? Is that the
Malcontents and Birthers? Or the Dropouts?

None of the above.


I'm trying to figure out what you guys have against telling kids they
should
work hard and be responsible. But then, you seem to have a lot of
attitudes
that are hard to figure out.

I just happen to realize that there is no legitimacy in the US or any
other government. The entire thing is a house of cards built on a
foundation of violence. I suppose you would say that makes me an
anarchist, but that isn't true either.

Oh, OK then, now we understand...?

--
Ed Huntress

Let's wait until Obama actually says what he wants to say, and then
we'll see how evil was the speech.

i

On Sep 2, 7:42*pm, "Ed Huntress" wrote:
"Pete C." wrote in message

ster.com...





Ed Huntress wrote:

"SteveB" wrote in message
...
September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech.
Probably about how to snitch on their parents.

This is scary. *This is sick.

Steve

Damn! Look at this, from Rightpundits.com:

"In yet one more historic moment for this White House, Barack Obama will
hold a nationwide speech for school children. Apparently, The One will
challenge students to work hard, set educational goals, and take
responsibility for their learning. He will also call for a "shared
responsibility and commitment" on the part of students, parents and
educators to ensure that every child in every school receives the best
education possible so they can compete in the global economy for good
jobs
and live rewarding and productive lives as American citizens."

Man, if that doesn't scare the hell out of you, what will? The sick
*******s
want our kids to work hard and take responsibility!

How will they ever learn to be a good, upstanding redneck if they listen
to
that? What will become of conservatives?

You're right, Steve. There's some real sickness here. 'Hope you get well
soon. g

--
Ed Huntress

Good thing I never fell for any of that type of crap and never joined as
a good little sheep in your great society.

In which society are you a good little sheep then, Pete? Is that the
Malcontents and Birthers? Or the Dropouts?

I'm trying to figure out what you guys have against telling kids they should
work hard and be responsible. But then, you seem to have a lot of attitudes
that are hard to figure out.

--
Ed Huntress

I just do not think it is one of the powers delegated to the Federal
Government. I think that is one of my powers.

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States
respectively, or to the people.

Dan

wrote in message
...
On Sep 2, 7:42 pm, "Ed Huntress" wrote:
"Pete C." wrote in message

ster.com...





Ed Huntress wrote:

"SteveB" wrote in message
...
September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a
speech.
Probably about how to snitch on their parents.

This is scary. This is sick.

Steve

Damn! Look at this, from Rightpundits.com:

"In yet one more historic moment for this White House, Barack Obama
will
hold a nationwide speech for school children. Apparently, The One will
challenge students to work hard, set educational goals, and take
responsibility for their learning. He will also call for a "shared
responsibility and commitment" on the part of students, parents and
educators to ensure that every child in every school receives the best
education possible so they can compete in the global economy for good
jobs
and live rewarding and productive lives as American citizens."

Man, if that doesn't scare the hell out of you, what will? The sick
*******s
want our kids to work hard and take responsibility!

How will they ever learn to be a good, upstanding redneck if they
listen
to
that? What will become of conservatives?

You're right, Steve. There's some real sickness here. 'Hope you get
well
soon. g

--
Ed Huntress

Good thing I never fell for any of that type of crap and never joined as
a good little sheep in your great society.

In which society are you a good little sheep then, Pete? Is that the
Malcontents and Birthers? Or the Dropouts?

I'm trying to figure out what you guys have against telling kids they
should
work hard and be responsible. But then, you seem to have a lot of
attitudes
that are hard to figure out.

--
Ed Huntress

I just do not think it is one of the powers delegated to the Federal
Government. I think that is one of my powers.

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States
respectively, or to the people.

Dan

Hold your phone calls, folks. We do have a winner!

Steve

Kudos, Dan.

wrote in message
...
On Sep 2, 7:42 pm, "Ed Huntress" wrote:
"Pete C." wrote in message

ster.com...





Ed Huntress wrote:

"SteveB" wrote in message
...
September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a
speech.
Probably about how to snitch on their parents.

This is scary. This is sick.

Steve

Damn! Look at this, from Rightpundits.com:

"In yet one more historic moment for this White House, Barack Obama
will
hold a nationwide speech for school children. Apparently, The One will
challenge students to work hard, set educational goals, and take
responsibility for their learning. He will also call for a "shared
responsibility and commitment" on the part of students, parents and
educators to ensure that every child in every school receives the best
education possible so they can compete in the global economy for good
jobs
and live rewarding and productive lives as American citizens."

Man, if that doesn't scare the hell out of you, what will? The sick
*******s
want our kids to work hard and take responsibility!

How will they ever learn to be a good, upstanding redneck if they
listen
to
that? What will become of conservatives?

You're right, Steve. There's some real sickness here. 'Hope you get
well
soon. g

--
Ed Huntress

Good thing I never fell for any of that type of crap and never joined as
a good little sheep in your great society.

In which society are you a good little sheep then, Pete? Is that the
Malcontents and Birthers? Or the Dropouts?

I'm trying to figure out what you guys have against telling kids they
should
work hard and be responsible. But then, you seem to have a lot of
attitudes
that are hard to figure out.

--
Ed Huntress

I just do not think it is one of the powers delegated to the Federal
Government. I think that is one of my powers.

Great. Now, why aren't you doing it?

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States
respectively, or to the people.

Which one, the states, or the people? g

--
Ed Huntress

On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 13:20:42 -0400, the infamous "Ed Huntress"
scrawled the following:


"SteveB" wrote in message
...
September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech.
Probably about how to snitch on their parents.

This is scary. This is sick.

Steve

Damn! Look at this, from Rightpundits.com:

"In yet one more historic moment for this White House, Barack Obama will
hold a nationwide speech for school children. Apparently, The One will
challenge students to work hard, set educational goals, and take
responsibility for their learning. He will also call for a "shared
responsibility and commitment" on the part of students, parents and
educators to ensure that every child in every school receives the best
education possible so they can compete in the global economy for good jobs
and live rewarding and productive lives as American citizens."

Man, if that doesn't scare the hell out of you, what will? The sick *******s
want our kids to work hard and take responsibility!

And pay taxes up the yingyang.


How will they ever learn to be a good, upstanding redneck if they listen to
that? What will become of conservatives?

They'll (we'll?) outlive you.


You're right, Steve. There's some real sickness here. 'Hope you get well
soon. g

He's talking about teaching the kids how to redistribute their wealth
so he can waste it elsewhere. The real end of that statement was "and
live rewarding and productive lives as American citizens who will fund
our wanton extravagances and lost causes." before the speech writers
spun it.

--
Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority.
It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard
the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all
ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to
be good masters, but they mean to be masters. --Daniel Webster

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 13:20:42 -0400, the infamous "Ed Huntress"
scrawled the following:


"SteveB" wrote in message
...
September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech.
Probably about how to snitch on their parents.

This is scary. This is sick.

Steve

Damn! Look at this, from Rightpundits.com:

"In yet one more historic moment for this White House, Barack Obama will
hold a nationwide speech for school children. Apparently, The One will
challenge students to work hard, set educational goals, and take
responsibility for their learning. He will also call for a "shared
responsibility and commitment" on the part of students, parents and
educators to ensure that every child in every school receives the best
education possible so they can compete in the global economy for good jobs
and live rewarding and productive lives as American citizens."

Man, if that doesn't scare the hell out of you, what will? The sick
*******s
want our kids to work hard and take responsibility!

And pay taxes up the yingyang.

Where does it say that's what he's going to talk to the kids about?


How will they ever learn to be a good, upstanding redneck if they listen
to
that? What will become of conservatives?

They'll (we'll?) outlive you.

I expect you will. But I'm a lot older than you. g



You're right, Steve. There's some real sickness here. 'Hope you get well
soon. g

He's talking about teaching the kids how to redistribute their wealth
so he can waste it elsewhere.

Really? Have you read the script?

The real end of that statement was "and
live rewarding and productive lives as American citizens who will fund
our wanton extravagances and lost causes." before the speech writers
spun it.

You're talking through your hat. The one thing that aligns you with the
righty contingent here is that most of the political and economic issues you
talk about are products of your imagination, not of the facts. You're making
up a case to reinforce your ideological leanings, which most of the righties
here do.

--
Ed Huntress

On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 23:13:53 -0400, the infamous "Ed Huntress"
scrawled the following:


"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 13:20:42 -0400, the infamous "Ed Huntress"
scrawled the following:


"SteveB" wrote in message
...
September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech.
Probably about how to snitch on their parents.

This is scary. This is sick.

Steve

Damn! Look at this, from Rightpundits.com:

"In yet one more historic moment for this White House, Barack Obama will
hold a nationwide speech for school children. Apparently, The One will
challenge students to work hard, set educational goals, and take
responsibility for their learning. He will also call for a "shared
responsibility and commitment" on the part of students, parents and
educators to ensure that every child in every school receives the best
education possible so they can compete in the global economy for good jobs
and live rewarding and productive lives as American citizens."

Man, if that doesn't scare the hell out of you, what will? The sick
*******s
want our kids to work hard and take responsibility!

And pay taxes up the yingyang.

Where does it say that's what he's going to talk to the kids about?

He's a liberal democrat. What else -can- he say?


How will they ever learn to be a good, upstanding redneck if they listen
to
that? What will become of conservatives?

They'll (we'll?) outlive you.

I expect you will. But I'm a lot older than you. g



You're right, Steve. There's some real sickness here. 'Hope you get well
soon. g

He's talking about teaching the kids how to redistribute their wealth
so he can waste it elsewhere.

Really? Have you read the script?

Yeah, in 50 previous bookings for folks with like minds.
Google "modus operandi", Ed.


The real end of that statement was "and
live rewarding and productive lives as American citizens who will fund
our wanton extravagances and lost causes." before the speech writers
spun it.

You're talking through your hat. The one thing that aligns you with the
righty contingent here is that most of the political and economic issues you
talk about are products of your imagination, not of the facts. You're making
up a case to reinforce your ideological leanings, which most of the righties
here do.

Prove me wrong about him, damnit! Pretty please?

--
Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority.
It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard
the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all
ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to
be good masters, but they mean to be masters. --Daniel Webster

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 23:13:53 -0400, the infamous "Ed Huntress"
scrawled the following:


"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 13:20:42 -0400, the infamous "Ed Huntress"
scrawled the following:


"SteveB" wrote in message
...
September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech.
Probably about how to snitch on their parents.

This is scary. This is sick.

Steve

Damn! Look at this, from Rightpundits.com:

"In yet one more historic moment for this White House, Barack Obama will
hold a nationwide speech for school children. Apparently, The One will
challenge students to work hard, set educational goals, and take
responsibility for their learning. He will also call for a "shared
responsibility and commitment" on the part of students, parents and
educators to ensure that every child in every school receives the best
education possible so they can compete in the global economy for good
jobs
and live rewarding and productive lives as American citizens."

Man, if that doesn't scare the hell out of you, what will? The sick
*******s
want our kids to work hard and take responsibility!

And pay taxes up the yingyang.

Where does it say that's what he's going to talk to the kids about?

He's a liberal democrat. What else -can- he say?

Circumstantial ad hominem.



How will they ever learn to be a good, upstanding redneck if they listen
to
that? What will become of conservatives?

They'll (we'll?) outlive you.

I expect you will. But I'm a lot older than you. g



You're right, Steve. There's some real sickness here. 'Hope you get well
soon. g

He's talking about teaching the kids how to redistribute their wealth
so he can waste it elsewhere.

Really? Have you read the script?

Yeah, in 50 previous bookings for folks with like minds.
Google "modus operandi", Ed.

Google Circumstantial Ad Hominem, Larry, and we'll compare Latin notes.



The real end of that statement was "and
live rewarding and productive lives as American citizens who will fund
our wanton extravagances and lost causes." before the speech writers
spun it.

You're talking through your hat. The one thing that aligns you with the
righty contingent here is that most of the political and economic issues
you
talk about are products of your imagination, not of the facts. You're
making
up a case to reinforce your ideological leanings, which most of the
righties
here do.

Prove me wrong about him, damnit! Pretty please?

That's not my job. My job is to keep your logic and your rhetoric clean and
pure. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress

Ed Huntress wrote:
"SteveB" wrote in message
...
September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech.
Probably about how to snitch on their parents.

This is scary. This is sick.

Steve

Damn! Look at this, from Rightpundits.com:

"In yet one more historic moment for this White House, Barack Obama will
hold a nationwide speech for school children. Apparently, The One will
challenge students to work hard, set educational goals, and take
responsibility for their learning. He will also call for a "shared
responsibility and commitment" on the part of students, parents and
educators to ensure that every child in every school receives the best
education possible so they can compete in the global economy for good jobs
and live rewarding and productive lives as American citizens."

Man, if that doesn't scare the hell out of you, what will? The sick *******s
want our kids to work hard and take responsibility!

How will they ever learn to be a good, upstanding redneck if they listen to
that? What will become of conservatives?

You're right, Steve. There's some real sickness here. 'Hope you get well
soon. g

--
Ed Huntress

I'm all for it! These kids will become the responsible taxpayers
who'll be feeding the dollars into my Social Security checks!

David

Ed Huntress wrote:
"SteveB" wrote in message
...
September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech.
Probably about how to snitch on their parents.

This is scary. This is sick.

Steve

Damn! Look at this, from Rightpundits.com:

"In yet one more historic moment for this White House, Barack Obama will
hold a nationwide speech for school children. Apparently, The One will
challenge students to work hard, set educational goals, and take
responsibility for their learning. He will also call for a "shared
responsibility and commitment" on the part of students, parents and
educators to ensure that every child in every school receives the best
education possible so they can compete in the global economy for good
jobs and live rewarding and productive lives as American citizens."

Man, if that doesn't scare the hell out of you, what will? The sick
*******s want our kids to work hard and take responsibility!

How will they ever learn to be a good, upstanding redneck if they listen
to that? What will become of conservatives?

You're right, Steve. There's some real sickness here. 'Hope you get well
soon. g

--
Ed Huntress

Sounds to me like Barry needs to go down into the hood and, through his
network of community organizers, hit this in the breadbasket for the best
results.

On September 9, or later, we will have time to analyze whether this was a
rah rah rah go get a good education speech, or just another ......... yawn
........... photo op with canned drivel a la carte du jour teleprompter from
speechwriters and Sol Alinski and Rev. Wright and Ayers, and all Barry's
idols.

I'm suspicious from the start, and I could be proven wrong. You, on the
other hand, seem to know all the answers and never are wrong. I, too, hope
you get over it sometime soon and see a speedy recovery.

Steve

"SteveB" wrote in message
...


Ed Huntress wrote:
"SteveB" wrote in message
...
September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech.
Probably about how to snitch on their parents.

This is scary. This is sick.

Steve

Damn! Look at this, from Rightpundits.com:

"In yet one more historic moment for this White House, Barack Obama will
hold a nationwide speech for school children. Apparently, The One will
challenge students to work hard, set educational goals, and take
responsibility for their learning. He will also call for a "shared
responsibility and commitment" on the part of students, parents and
educators to ensure that every child in every school receives the best
education possible so they can compete in the global economy for good
jobs and live rewarding and productive lives as American citizens."

Man, if that doesn't scare the hell out of you, what will? The sick
*******s want our kids to work hard and take responsibility!

How will they ever learn to be a good, upstanding redneck if they listen
to that? What will become of conservatives?

You're right, Steve. There's some real sickness here. 'Hope you get well
soon. g

--
Ed Huntress

Sounds to me like Barry needs to go down into the hood and, through his
network of community organizers, hit this in the breadbasket for the best
results.

On September 9, or later, we will have time to analyze whether this was a
rah rah rah go get a good education speech, or just another ......... yawn
.......... photo op with canned drivel a la carte du jour teleprompter
from speechwriters and Sol Alinski and Rev. Wright and Ayers, and all
Barry's idols.

Sure. As Iggy said, there's really nothing to say about all of this until we
actually hear it ourselves. That's the voice of reason, which is both
annoying and totally inappropriate on this newsgroup. d8-)


I'm suspicious from the start, and I could be proven wrong.

'Nothing wrong with being skeptical. But there's no reason to call it
"sick," either. You don't even know what the content is, but you're saying
you're scared and the speech is sick -- a speech you haven't even heard.

You jumped the shark on that one, Steve.

You, on the other hand, seem to know all the answers and never are wrong.
I, too, hope you get over it sometime soon and see a speedy recovery.

Steve

I'm surprised you think I'm never wrong. Sometimes I'm just more interested
to see if the righties are up to checking out what they're saying and making
a coherent point, or if they're just talking through their hats, and I don't
care much about right or wrong. Some issues don't have a "right" or a
"wrong." They're just piles of slush.

But letting the various right-wing pathologies fester here without a
response would be totally irresponsible of me. You have to keep the pitchers
from getting into a rhythm, or they'll throw off the plate and get too many
balls called strikes. g

--
Ed Huntress

"David R.Birch" wrote in message
...
Ed Huntress wrote:
"SteveB" wrote in message
...
September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech.
Probably about how to snitch on their parents.

This is scary. This is sick.

Steve

Damn! Look at this, from Rightpundits.com:

"In yet one more historic moment for this White House, Barack Obama will
hold a nationwide speech for school children. Apparently, The One will
challenge students to work hard, set educational goals, and take
responsibility for their learning. He will also call for a "shared
responsibility and commitment" on the part of students, parents and
educators to ensure that every child in every school receives the best
education possible so they can compete in the global economy for good
jobs and live rewarding and productive lives as American citizens."

Man, if that doesn't scare the hell out of you, what will? The sick
*******s want our kids to work hard and take responsibility!

How will they ever learn to be a good, upstanding redneck if they listen
to that? What will become of conservatives?

You're right, Steve. There's some real sickness here. 'Hope you get well
soon. g

--
Ed Huntress

I'm all for it! These kids will become the responsible taxpayers who'll be
feeding the dollars into my Social Security checks!

David

That's a foregone conclusion no matter which party is in office.

--
Ed Huntress

Ed Huntress wrote:
"David R.Birch" wrote in message
...
Ed Huntress wrote:
"SteveB" wrote in message
...
September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech.
Probably about how to snitch on their parents.

This is scary. This is sick.

Steve
Damn! Look at this, from Rightpundits.com:

"In yet one more historic moment for this White House, Barack Obama will
hold a nationwide speech for school children. Apparently, The One will
challenge students to work hard, set educational goals, and take
responsibility for their learning. He will also call for a "shared
responsibility and commitment" on the part of students, parents and
educators to ensure that every child in every school receives the best
education possible so they can compete in the global economy for good
jobs and live rewarding and productive lives as American citizens."

Man, if that doesn't scare the hell out of you, what will? The sick
*******s want our kids to work hard and take responsibility!

How will they ever learn to be a good, upstanding redneck if they listen
to that? What will become of conservatives?

You're right, Steve. There's some real sickness here. 'Hope you get well
soon. g

--
Ed Huntress
I'm all for it! These kids will become the responsible taxpayers who'll be
feeding the dollars into my Social Security checks!

David

That's a foregone conclusion no matter which party is in office.

--
Ed Huntress

You may think so, but I'll not spend it until I have it. And if I
don't get it, I'll not be surprised.

From what I've seen of the current new crop of workers, I'm not
filled with confidence for the future.

David

"David R.Birch" wrote in message
...
Ed Huntress wrote:
"David R.Birch" wrote in message
...
Ed Huntress wrote:
"SteveB" wrote in message
...
September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech.
Probably about how to snitch on their parents.

This is scary. This is sick.

Steve
Damn! Look at this, from Rightpundits.com:

"In yet one more historic moment for this White House, Barack Obama
will hold a nationwide speech for school children. Apparently, The One
will challenge students to work hard, set educational goals, and take
responsibility for their learning. He will also call for a "shared
responsibility and commitment" on the part of students, parents and
educators to ensure that every child in every school receives the best
education possible so they can compete in the global economy for good
jobs and live rewarding and productive lives as American citizens."

Man, if that doesn't scare the hell out of you, what will? The sick
*******s want our kids to work hard and take responsibility!

How will they ever learn to be a good, upstanding redneck if they
listen to that? What will become of conservatives?

You're right, Steve. There's some real sickness here. 'Hope you get
well soon. g

--
Ed Huntress
I'm all for it! These kids will become the responsible taxpayers who'll
be feeding the dollars into my Social Security checks!

David

That's a foregone conclusion no matter which party is in office.

--
Ed Huntress

You may think so, but I'll not spend it until I have it. And if I don't
get it, I'll not be surprised.

From what I've seen of the current new crop of workers, I'm not filled
with confidence for the future.

David

If we run out, we run out. It will be because of a jobs-free recovery, if
that comes to pass, and a prolonged period of high unemployment.

Over the years I've run the numbers several times and I could never see how
we were going to have enough jobs to have decent levels of employment. And
I've always been proved to be too pessimistic about it. So now I don't worry
as much, and proceed as if the jobs will come -- as they always do.

I'm concerned about *rates* of economic growth now, but as I've learned, I
tend to be too cautious and conservative about estimating what will happen
in that regard, as well. So don't worry, be happy. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress

On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 13:20:42 -0400, "Ed Huntress"
wrote:


"SteveB" wrote in message
...
September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech.
Probably about how to snitch on their parents.

This is scary. This is sick.

Steve

Damn! Look at this, from Rightpundits.com:

"In yet one more historic moment for this White House, Barack Obama will
hold a nationwide speech for school children. Apparently, The One will
challenge students to work hard, set educational goals, and take
responsibility for their learning. He will also call for a "shared
responsibility and commitment" on the part of students, parents and
educators to ensure that every child in every school receives the best
education possible so they can compete in the global economy for good jobs
and live rewarding and productive lives as American citizens."

Man, if that doesn't scare the hell out of you, what will? The sick *******s
want our kids to work hard and take responsibility!

How will they ever learn to be a good, upstanding redneck if they listen to
that? What will become of conservatives?

You're right, Steve. There's some real sickness here. 'Hope you get well
soon. g

Ed, it's scarey because it has some resemblence to Hitler's appeal to
youth in the '30's. Obama does have similar charisma and obvious
tendency toward narcissism, and he has a majority of U.S. citizens in
thrall thus far. You may be among those he has in thrall. I'm not
saying the repub candidates were preferable. They were not.

I have no school-age children but if I did I'd want to vet Obama's
presentation before exposing them to it. I'd regard that as my
responsibility as a parent. I can tell you that parents of young
children I know, e.g. next door neighbors, are reacting similarly.
Said neighbors are educated professionals, not rednecks. Young Wes is
not yet of school age, but if he was his mom said she'd keep him home
from school during an Obama speech to children. I'd call that
responsible parenting.

You might also if you met wee Wes. He is a very neat little boy next
door.

I took some of his daddy's 9mmp handloads to the range today to clock
them. They're mommy rounds, she's permitted to carry. They clocked
about like we expected, good to go for practice ammo.

"Don Foreman" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 13:20:42 -0400, "Ed Huntress"
wrote:


"SteveB" wrote in message
...
September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech.
Probably about how to snitch on their parents.

This is scary. This is sick.

Steve

Damn! Look at this, from Rightpundits.com:

"In yet one more historic moment for this White House, Barack Obama will
hold a nationwide speech for school children. Apparently, The One will
challenge students to work hard, set educational goals, and take
responsibility for their learning. He will also call for a "shared
responsibility and commitment" on the part of students, parents and
educators to ensure that every child in every school receives the best
education possible so they can compete in the global economy for good jobs
and live rewarding and productive lives as American citizens."

Man, if that doesn't scare the hell out of you, what will? The sick
*******s
want our kids to work hard and take responsibility!

How will they ever learn to be a good, upstanding redneck if they listen
to
that? What will become of conservatives?

You're right, Steve. There's some real sickness here. 'Hope you get well
soon. g

Ed, it's scarey because it has some resemblence to Hitler's appeal to
youth in the '30's. Obama does have similar charisma and obvious
tendency toward narcissism, and he has a majority of U.S. citizens in
thrall thus far. You may be among those he has in thrall. I'm not
saying the repub candidates were preferable. They were not.

I have no school-age children but if I did I'd want to vet Obama's
presentation before exposing them to it. I'd regard that as my
responsibility as a parent. I can tell you that parents of young
children I know, e.g. next door neighbors, are reacting similarly.
Said neighbors are educated professionals, not rednecks. Young Wes is
not yet of school age, but if he was his mom said she'd keep him home
from school during an Obama speech to children. I'd call that
responsible parenting.

You might also if you met wee Wes. He is a very neat little boy next
door.

I took some of his daddy's 9mmp handloads to the range today to clock
them. They're mommy rounds, she's permitted to carry. They clocked
about like we expected, good to go for practice ammo.

I'm hardly "in thrall," Don, but neither am I paranoid. Obama is just too
"different" for conservatives. It's clear now that most of them will be
suspicious of everything he does. That's their nature; it's not really about
what he's doing, it's about their perception of who he is, combined with the
way conservatism has made a boogieman of every idea that's not
right-of-center, a phenomenon that's been building since the days of Ronald
Reagan.

Doubtless they have convinced themselves that they're being prudent. If
there were no Boy Scouts and if Obama was promoting them the way Teddy
Roosevelt promoted Scouting, conservatives would say it was the second
coming of the Brown Shirts and that Obama was the next Hitler.

So, carry on. I think it's bizarre that parents are going to keep their kids
home from school because of a talk about education that the President is
going to deliver to them. But a week spent in Illinois a few weeks ago made
clear to me that conservatives haven't emotionally absorbed what's happened
politically over the past couple of years, and that it scares the hell out
of them.

It really doesn't matter now what he says or does. Conservatives are
handloading like the Three Plagues are on the way, and they're holing up,
psychologically. I think it's sad but it's their business, as long as it
doesn't affect me.

--
Ed Huntress

I cannot believe it that people are afraid that a president is going
to make a speech to their children. Even assuming that the president
would say something with which a parent would disagree with, isolating
children from presidential speeches is an inadequate answer.

The better approach would be to explain to the children that not
everyone has to agree with the president about everything, highlight
differences between your opinion and the president's etc.

Trying to hide the president's speech from children is similar to
sticking one's head in the sand when you hear bad news. It is not a
productive approach and leads to living in an imaginary world.

Let's wait until the speech and then we can see if it is as evil as
some are expecting it to be. If it will be the case, then I will
adjust my understanding of reality, and if it is not, then those who
expected it to be evil, should adjust theirs.

i

Ignoramus30623 wrote:
I cannot believe it that people are afraid that a president is going
to make a speech to their children. Even assuming that the president
would say something with which a parent would disagree with, isolating
children from presidential speeches is an inadequate answer.

The better approach would be to explain to the children that not
everyone has to agree with the president about everything, highlight
differences between your opinion and the president's etc.

Trying to hide the president's speech from children is similar to
sticking one's head in the sand when you hear bad news. It is not a
productive approach and leads to living in an imaginary world.

Let's wait until the speech and then we can see if it is as evil as
some are expecting it to be. If it will be the case, then I will
adjust my understanding of reality, and if it is not, then those who
expected it to be evil, should adjust theirs.

i


Unless, of course, they see it as protecting their children from
political propaganda...

On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 10:54:46 -0500, Ignoramus30623
wrote:

I cannot believe it that people are afraid that a president is going
to make a speech to their children. Even assuming that the president
would say something with which a parent would disagree with, isolating
children from presidential speeches is an inadequate answer.


Why?

The better approach would be to explain to the children that not
everyone has to agree with the president about everything, highlight
differences between your opinion and the president's etc.

Pehaps. But with Liberal teachers hammering Leftwing crapola into your
kids brain every day...how do you make the determination..or even know
what they are being told?

Trying to hide the president's speech from children is similar to
sticking one's head in the sand when you hear bad news. It is not a
productive approach and leads to living in an imaginary world.

So you will be allowing your kids to go to an American Nazi Party
fiesta next week?

Let's wait until the speech and then we can see if it is as evil as
some are expecting it to be. If it will be the case, then I will
adjust my understanding of reality, and if it is not, then those who
expected it to be evil, should adjust theirs.

i

Coming from an ex-russian..sometimes I wonder about you. You are far
far too accepting of things the Government pulls. Perhaps it IS
because you are an ex russian.....and again...it makes us even more
concerned about our children..

Gunner

"Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with
minimum food or water,in austere conditions, day and night. The only thing
clean on him is his weapon. He doesn't worry about what workout to do---
his rucksack weighs what it weighs, and he runs until the enemy stops chasing him.
The True Believer doesn't care 'how hard it is'; he knows he either wins or he dies.
He doesn't go home at 1700; he is home. He knows only the 'Cause.' Now, who wants to quit?"

NCOIC of the Special Forces Assessment and Selection Course in a welcome speech to new SF candidates

Ignoramus30623 wrote:
I cannot believe it that people are afraid that a president is going
to make a speech to their children. Even assuming that the president
would say something with which a parent would disagree with, isolating
children from presidential speeches is an inadequate answer.

The better approach would be to explain to the children that not
everyone has to agree with the president about everything, highlight
differences between your opinion and the president's etc.

Trying to hide the president's speech from children is similar to
sticking one's head in the sand when you hear bad news. It is not a
productive approach and leads to living in an imaginary world.

Let's wait until the speech and then we can see if it is as evil as
some are expecting it to be. If it will be the case, then I will
adjust my understanding of reality, and if it is not, then those who
expected it to be evil, should adjust theirs.

It is a parents responsibility to shield their children from input that
the parents feel may be harmful to the child. that's the reason for
parental control features on electronic media.
I think the problem here is that the Obama administration has
injected partisan politics into everything they do, to the extent that
most of the citizenry suspects ulterior/partisan motives in everything
they attempt.
If BHO had made any attempt to live up to the transparency he
promised us, we might feel differently.

Don Foreman wrote:
On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 13:20:42 -0400, "Ed Huntress"
wrote:

"SteveB" wrote in message
...
September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech.
Probably about how to snitch on their parents.

This is scary. This is sick.

Steve
Damn! Look at this, from Rightpundits.com:

"In yet one more historic moment for this White House, Barack Obama will
hold a nationwide speech for school children. Apparently, The One will
challenge students to work hard, set educational goals, and take
responsibility for their learning. He will also call for a "shared
responsibility and commitment" on the part of students, parents and
educators to ensure that every child in every school receives the best
education possible so they can compete in the global economy for good jobs
and live rewarding and productive lives as American citizens."

Man, if that doesn't scare the hell out of you, what will? The sick *******s
want our kids to work hard and take responsibility!

How will they ever learn to be a good, upstanding redneck if they listen to
that? What will become of conservatives?

You're right, Steve. There's some real sickness here. 'Hope you get well
soon. g

Ed, it's scarey because it has some resemblence to Hitler's appeal to
youth in the '30's. Obama does have similar charisma and obvious
tendency toward narcissism, and he has a majority of U.S. citizens in
thrall thus far.

Among the activities initially suggested for pre-K to 6th grade students
was to "write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the
president."

Another assignment for students after hearing the speech was to discuss
what "the president wants us to do."

These have since been changed since the uproar.

SteveB wrote:
September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech.
Probably about how to snitch on their parents.

This is scary. This is sick.

Here's another dubious first:

NEA enlisting artists to use their talents to promote Obama's Agendae on
Health, Can and trade. "This is just the beginning"

http://online.wsj.com/article_email/...TEwNDEyWj.html

Seems like this was popular in Europe in the 1930s.

here is the article:

From "The National Endowment for the Art of Persuasion?" by Patrick
Courrielche, posted on BigHollywood.Breitbart.com on Aug. 25:

On Thursday August 6th, I was invited by the National Endowment for the
Arts to attend a conference call scheduled for Monday August 10th hosted
by the NEA, the White House Office of Public Engagement, and United We
Serve. The call would include "a group of artists, producers, promoters,
organizers, influencers, marketers, taste-makers, leaders or just plain
cool people to join together and work together to promote a more
civically engaged America and celebrate how the arts can be used for a
positive change!"

I learned after the conference call that there were *approximately 75
people participating, including many well *respected street-artists,
filmmakers, art galleries, music venues, musicians and music producers,
writers, poets, actors, independent media outlets, marketers, and
various other professionals from the creative community. . . .

Backed by the full weight of President Barack Obama's call to service
and the institutional weight of the NEA, the conference call was billed
as an opportunity for those in the art community to inspire service in
four key categories, and at the top of the list were "health care" and
"energy and environment." . . .

It sounded, how should I phrase it . . . unusual, that the NEA would
invite the art community to a meeting to discuss issues currently under
vehement national debate. I decided to call in, and what I heard
concerned me. . . .

Throughout the conversation my inner dialogue was firing away questions
so fast that the NRA would've been envious. Is this truly the role of
the NEA? Is building a message distribution network, for matters other
than increasing access to the arts and arts education, the role of the
National Endowment for the Arts? Is providing the art community issues
to address, especially those that are currently being vehemently debated
*nationally, a legitimate role for the NEA? I found it highly *unlikely
that this was in their original charter, so I checked.

The NEA published a book entitled "National Endowment for the Arts: A
History 1965-2008" early this year. Combing through the 40+ year history
of the NEA, I could not find a single instance of the agency creating or
supporting a national initiative that encouraged the art community to
address current issues under contentious *debate.

The NEA was created by the Congress of the United States and President
Lyndon B. Johnson in 1965 as "a public agency dedicated to supporting
excellence in the arts, both new and established; bringing the arts to
all Americans; and providing leadership in arts education." The issue of
health care is curiously absent from this description on their website.
.. . .

I leave you with a few statements made by the NEA to the art community
participants on the conference call. "This is just the beginning. This
is the first telephone call of a brand new conversation. We are just now
learning how to really bring this community together to speak with the
government. What that looks like legally? . . . bear with us as we learn
the language so that we can speak to each other safely . . ."

Is the hair on your arms standing up yet?

SteveB wrote:
September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech.
Probably about how to snitch on their parents.

This is scary. This is sick.

Steve



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranoia

On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 11:08:24 -0600, "SteveB" wrote:

September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech.
Probably about how to snitch on their parents.

This is scary. This is sick.

Steve

Sounds like a good day for the kid to stay home, or go to the beach...or
have a Teachers Administration Day...and not go in to school.


"Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with
minimum food or water,in austere conditions, day and night. The only thing
clean on him is his weapon. He doesn't worry about what workout to do---
his rucksack weighs what it weighs, and he runs until the enemy stops chasing him.
The True Believer doesn't care 'how hard it is'; he knows he either wins or he dies.
He doesn't go home at 1700; he is home. He knows only the 'Cause.' Now, who wants to quit?"

NCOIC of the Special Forces Assessment and Selection Course in a welcome speech to new SF candidates

On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 11:08:24 -0600, SteveB wrote:

September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech.
Probably about how to snitch on their parents.

This is scary. This is sick.

Hear, hear!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four

Cheers!
Rich

Richard the Dreaded Libertarian wrote:

On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 11:08:24 -0600, SteveB wrote:

September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech.
Probably about how to snitch on their parents.

This is scary. This is sick.

Hear, hear!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four


If Obama's goal is to use the children, with empty heads of mush, to influence the
political decisions of said child's parents, using a forum funded by government, then I
think the President is operating way across the line.

I guess to stay in the spirit of your link, President Obama is a big brother

Wes

"Wes" wrote in message
...
Richard the Dreaded Libertarian wrote:

On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 11:08:24 -0600, SteveB wrote:

September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech.
Probably about how to snitch on their parents.

This is scary. This is sick.

Hear, hear!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four


If Obama's goal is to use the children, with empty heads of mush, to
influence the
political decisions of said child's parents, using a forum funded by
government, then I
think the President is operating way across the line.

Yeah, like Kennedy with all of that exercise stuff. Freakin' Council on
Youth Fitness, and all of those haranguing newsletters signed by the
President, and the films and booklets warping our little minds to believe
that we should be fit. And all of those President's Challenge workouts we
had to take.

Jeez. (Many here are too young to remember this, but it was a lot
heavier-handed than what we're hearing from Obama.)

And Nancy Reagan with all of that anti-drug propaganda! Sheesh, didn't she
know how to have a good time?

And now Obama wants kids to work hard and be responsible. When will this
brainwashing and despotism end?

--
Ed Huntress

On Sep 2, 8:48*pm, "Ed Huntress" wrote:
"Wes" wrote in message

...



Richard the Dreaded Libertarian wrote:

On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 11:08:24 -0600, SteveB wrote:

September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech..
Probably about how to snitch on their parents.

This is scary. *This is sick.

Hear, hear!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four

If Obama's goal is to use the children, with empty heads of mush, to
influence the
political decisions of said child's parents, using a forum funded by
government, then I
think the President is operating way across the line.

Yeah, like Kennedy with all of that exercise stuff. Freakin' Council on
Youth Fitness, and all of those haranguing newsletters signed by the
President, and the films and booklets warping our little minds to believe
that we should be fit. And all of those President's Challenge workouts we
had to take.

Jeez. (Many here are too young to remember this, but it was a lot
heavier-handed than what we're hearing from Obama.)

And Nancy Reagan with all of that anti-drug propaganda! Sheesh, didn't she
know how to have a good time?

And now Obama wants kids to work hard and be responsible. When will this
brainwashing and despotism end?

--
Ed Huntress

Ed, you can't win this one. They've got all the tin foil.

"rangerssuck" wrote in message
...
On Sep 2, 8:48 pm, "Ed Huntress" wrote:
"Wes" wrote in message

...



Richard the Dreaded Libertarian wrote:

On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 11:08:24 -0600, SteveB wrote:

September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech.
Probably about how to snitch on their parents.

This is scary. This is sick.

Hear, hear!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four

If Obama's goal is to use the children, with empty heads of mush, to
influence the
political decisions of said child's parents, using a forum funded by
government, then I
think the President is operating way across the line.

Yeah, like Kennedy with all of that exercise stuff. Freakin' Council on
Youth Fitness, and all of those haranguing newsletters signed by the
President, and the films and booklets warping our little minds to believe
that we should be fit. And all of those President's Challenge workouts we
had to take.

Jeez. (Many here are too young to remember this, but it was a lot
heavier-handed than what we're hearing from Obama.)

And Nancy Reagan with all of that anti-drug propaganda! Sheesh, didn't she
know how to have a good time?

And now Obama wants kids to work hard and be responsible. When will this
brainwashing and despotism end?

--
Ed Huntress

Ed, you can't win this one. They've got all the tin foil.

I've been here a long time, Ranger. Don't worry, I'm not trying to win
anything. It's mostly writing exercise, to keep me in shape. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress

rangerssuck wrote:

Ed, you can't win this one. They've got all the tin foil.

250ft rolls at Sam's club. Cheaper that way

It is amazing how much you can put in a standard sized foil box if you use a 1" dia core.

Wes

Ed Huntress wrote:
"Wes" wrote in message
...
Richard the Dreaded Libertarian wrote:

On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 11:08:24 -0600, SteveB wrote:

September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech.
Probably about how to snitch on their parents.

This is scary. This is sick.

Hear, hear!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four

If Obama's goal is to use the children, with empty heads of mush, to
influence the
political decisions of said child's parents, using a forum funded by
government, then I
think the President is operating way across the line.

Yeah, like Kennedy with all of that exercise stuff. Freakin' Council on
Youth Fitness, and all of those haranguing newsletters signed by the
President, and the films and booklets warping our little minds to believe
that we should be fit. And all of those President's Challenge workouts we
had to take.

Jeez. (Many here are too young to remember this, but it was a lot
heavier-handed than what we're hearing from Obama.)

And Nancy Reagan with all of that anti-drug propaganda! Sheesh, didn't she
know how to have a good time?

And now Obama wants kids to work hard and be responsible. When will this
brainwashing and despotism end?

In JFKs time, we all still said the Pledge of Allegiance, and patriotism
was the norm, along with individualism, self-sufficiency, work ethic etc.
Today's public school classrooms are a relative vacuum, much like the
small craniums therein. Obama, who has demonstrated that he is a
politician first and foremost, looking to fill that vacuum directly, is
what is worrisome. Those kids don't have the balance and upbringing
that was the norm for most of us gray-headed types.
The guidelines/recommendations sent to educators are laughable.
they are suggesting pre- and post-talk discussions that are guaranteed
to make a teenagers eye's swivel about their sockets while the body
slumps down in the desk.
I hope before he goes live that the text will be made public with
enough time for parents to make a decision for their kids.
Many Texas school systems are now discussing whether to participate.

On Sep 2, 5:48*pm, "Ed Huntress" wrote:
"Wes" wrote in message

...



Richard the Dreaded Libertarian wrote:

On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 11:08:24 -0600, SteveB wrote:

September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech..
Probably about how to snitch on their parents.

This is scary. *This is sick.

Hear, hear!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four

If Obama's goal is to use the children, with empty heads of mush, to
influence the
political decisions of said child's parents, using a forum funded by
government, then I
think the President is operating way across the line.

Yeah, like Kennedy with all of that exercise stuff. Freakin' Council on
Youth Fitness, and all of those haranguing newsletters signed by the
President, and the films and booklets warping our little minds to believe
that we should be fit. And all of those President's Challenge workouts we
had to take.

Jeez. (Many here are too young to remember this, but it was a lot
heavier-handed than what we're hearing from Obama.)

And Nancy Reagan with all of that anti-drug propaganda! Sheesh, didn't she
know how to have a good time?

And now Obama wants kids to work hard and be responsible. When will this
brainwashing and despotism end?

--
Ed Huntress

Ed,
You obviously did not listen to Nancy
Clark

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On Sep 2, 5:48 pm, "Ed Huntress" wrote:
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Richard the Dreaded Libertarian wrote:

On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 11:08:24 -0600, SteveB wrote:

September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech.
Probably about how to snitch on their parents.

This is scary. This is sick.

Hear, hear!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four

If Obama's goal is to use the children, with empty heads of mush, to
influence the
political decisions of said child's parents, using a forum funded by
government, then I
think the President is operating way across the line.

Yeah, like Kennedy with all of that exercise stuff. Freakin' Council on
Youth Fitness, and all of those haranguing newsletters signed by the
President, and the films and booklets warping our little minds to believe
that we should be fit. And all of those President's Challenge workouts we
had to take.

Jeez. (Many here are too young to remember this, but it was a lot
heavier-handed than what we're hearing from Obama.)

And Nancy Reagan with all of that anti-drug propaganda! Sheesh, didn't she
know how to have a good time?

And now Obama wants kids to work hard and be responsible. When will this
brainwashing and despotism end?

--
Ed Huntress

Ed,
You obviously did not listen to Nancy
Clark

'Didn't need to, Clark. But she was a superstitious wacko, anyway.

BTW, did you see the transcript I posted of Ronnie's speech to students in
1988? And righties are worried now that kids are going to be exposed to
political propaganda? ggg

--
Ed Huntress

On Sep 2, 1:08*pm, "SteveB" wrote:
September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech.
Probably about how to snitch on their parents.

This is scary. *This is sick.

Steve

In case you missed it, last November, the people of the USA elected a
relatively liberal president. You guys who love to quote the
constitution should be able to understand the process. Go get
yourselves a candidate and run him (or her) in 2012. Until then, grow
the **** up. If you don't want your kids to hear their president, keep
them home. Or better yet, get them little tin foil hats, and home-
school them,

You know damned well that there will be nothing in the speech about
snitching on anyone, but in your usual, predictable fashion, you have
made up bull**** facts to support your own narrow-minded view of the
world.

Let's talk about this on September ninth, when you can make up
bull**** interpretations of what was actually said on the eighth.