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Iggy - Any info on the cause of the hydroelectric powerplant explosion in Siberia?
Iggy,
I assume you are following the Russian-language media on the recent disaster at the hydroelectric plant in Siberia that killed ~69 people and wrecked the machinery hall, doing a billion dollars of damage. The English-language media have little real information, and I'm hoping that the Russian media has better information. As near as I can glean, the feedwater pressure was observed to rise just before the explosion, so I'm guessing that the turbine speed regulator mechanism failed, allowing the turbine to be driven to bursting speed. Or, the turbine disk developed a crack and just came apart, perhaps triggered by a speed increase that had heretofore caused no problem. There are also many reports that the powerplant was known to be dangerous because of monumental lack of maintenance. Joe Gwinn |
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Iggy - Any info on the cause of the hydroelectric powerplantexplosion in Siberia?
Joe, I will look, I was very busy with stuff, but I am interested
myself. Igor On 2009-08-29, Joseph Gwinn wrote: Iggy, I assume you are following the Russian-language media on the recent disaster at the hydroelectric plant in Siberia that killed ~69 people and wrecked the machinery hall, doing a billion dollars of damage. The English-language media have little real information, and I'm hoping that the Russian media has better information. As near as I can glean, the feedwater pressure was observed to rise just before the explosion, so I'm guessing that the turbine speed regulator mechanism failed, allowing the turbine to be driven to bursting speed. Or, the turbine disk developed a crack and just came apart, perhaps triggered by a speed increase that had heretofore caused no problem. There are also many reports that the powerplant was known to be dangerous because of monumental lack of maintenance. Joe Gwinn |
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Iggy - Any info on the cause of the hydroelectric powerplantexplosion in Siberia?
Joe, it looks like they were repairing some of the water channels
inside the dam, which broke a wall and flooded the control room. |
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Iggy - Any info on the cause of the hydroelectric powerplant explosion in Siberia?
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Ignoramus17616 wrote: Joe, it looks like they were repairing some of the water channels inside the dam, which broke a wall and flooded the control room. That doesn't explain all the physical damage to what had been a very strongly built building. Was the water channel broken when the turbine went, or the other way around? Joe Gwinn |
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Iggy - Any info on the cause of the hydroelectric powerplant explosion in Siberia?
Joseph Gwinn wrote:
In article , Ignoramus17616 wrote: Joe, it looks like they were repairing some of the water channels inside the dam, which broke a wall and flooded the control room. That doesn't explain all the physical damage to what had been a very strongly built building. Was the water channel broken when the turbine went, or the other way around? A water hammer on #2 resulted in the destruction of the rotor which fractured the housing and threw a 900 ton piece of equipment completely off it's mount. Water continued to flood the hall through the fractured turbine housing and since all power was lost, the safety systems couldn't open the safety gates. All of the afected transformers apparently blew as well and their oil flowed from the building when emergency power came on and the emergency discharge gates were opened manually. That's what I got anyway. JC -- John R. Carroll |
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Iggy - Any info on the cause of the hydroelectric powerplant explosion in Siberia?
"John R. Carroll" wrote in message ... Joseph Gwinn wrote: In article , Ignoramus17616 wrote: Joe, it looks like they were repairing some of the water channels inside the dam, which broke a wall and flooded the control room. That doesn't explain all the physical damage to what had been a very strongly built building. Was the water channel broken when the turbine went, or the other way around? A water hammer on #2 resulted in the destruction of the rotor which fractured the housing and threw a 900 ton piece of equipment completely off it's mount. Water continued to flood the hall through the fractured turbine housing and since all power was lost, the safety systems couldn't open the safety gates. All of the afected transformers apparently blew as well and their oil flowed from the building when emergency power came on and the emergency discharge gates were opened manually. That's what I got anyway. JC -- John R. Carroll some more photos (i hadn't seen these yet). wow. http://dfilter.livejournal.com/592091.html damn shame. terrible tragedy. the wiki article said the one turbine blowing up caused a electric shutdown which resulted in the other turbines that were on line to overspeed and blow up too. amazing. b.w. |
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Iggy - Any info on the cause of the hydroelectric powerplant explosion in Siberia?
On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 09:22:55 -0800, "John R. Carroll"
wrote: Joseph Gwinn wrote: In article , Ignoramus17616 wrote: Joe, it looks like they were repairing some of the water channels inside the dam, which broke a wall and flooded the control room. That doesn't explain all the physical damage to what had been a very strongly built building. Was the water channel broken when the turbine went, or the other way around? A water hammer on #2 resulted in the destruction of the rotor which fractured the housing and threw a 900 ton piece of equipment completely off it's mount. Water continued to flood the hall through the fractured turbine housing and since all power was lost, the safety systems couldn't open the safety gates. All of the afected transformers apparently blew as well and their oil flowed from the building when emergency power came on and the emergency discharge gates were opened manually. That's what I got anyway. JC I wonder what was the composition of the transformer oil? Gerry :-)} London, Canada |
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