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My kids and wife are wanting an above ground swimming pool. Money is
kind of tight and was wondering if a person could buy a used on off craigslist or if a used pool is not a good idea. Are they hard to install yourself? Thanks! |
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My kids and wife are wanting an above ground swimming pool. Money is kind of tight and was wondering if a person could buy a used on off craigslist or if a used pool is not a good idea. Are they hard to install yourself? Thanks! Not hard to install. Level chunk of ground. Put 3-4" of clean sand down. Set up frame and install liner. Connect up filter pump, Fill with water and check the PH and bacteria with a test kit. Biggest problem with used is the liner. Holes are NOT good... -- Steve W. |
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On Jun 23, 10:32*am, "Steve W." wrote:
stryped wrote: My kids and wife are wanting an above ground swimming pool. Money is kind of tight and was wondering if a person could buy a used on off craigslist or if a used pool is not a good idea. Are they hard to install yourself? Thanks! Not hard to install. Level chunk of ground. Put 3-4" of clean sand down. Set up frame and install liner. Connect up filter pump, Fill with water and check the PH and bacteria with a test kit. Biggest problem with used is the liner. Holes are NOT good... -- Steve W. One problem is my lot is not perfectly level. How can I level it by hand? How much are liner. |
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stryped wrote:
On Jun 23, 10:32 am, "Steve W." wrote: stryped wrote: My kids and wife are wanting an above ground swimming pool. Money is kind of tight and was wondering if a person could buy a used on off craigslist or if a used pool is not a good idea. Are they hard to install yourself? Thanks! Not hard to install. Level chunk of ground. Put 3-4" of clean sand down. Set up frame and install liner. Connect up filter pump, Fill with water and check the PH and bacteria with a test kit. Biggest problem with used is the liner. Holes are NOT good... -- Steve W. One problem is my lot is not perfectly level. How can I level it by hand? Well you can dig the high spots down and toss the fill into the low spots. Not fun but can be done. How much are liner. How high is the sky? Depends on the pools size, shape, liner material, color. Low end probably $150.00 high end $3000.00+ -- Steve W. |
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On Jun 23, 2:18*pm, "Steve W." wrote:
stryped wrote: On Jun 23, 10:32 am, "Steve W." wrote: stryped wrote: My kids and wife are wanting an above ground swimming pool. Money is kind of tight and was wondering if a person could buy a used on off craigslist or if a used pool is not a good idea. Are they hard to install yourself? Thanks! Not hard to install. Level chunk of ground. Put 3-4" of clean sand down. |
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- Show quoted text - Could I use my single turning plow on the back of my 8n to level????? Just thinking.... You can to break up the dirt, rig up a blade to move it once you get it broke up. As for the water depth and such, Fill the pool and teach the kids to swim in it. Keep in mind that you can easily drown in 1" of water! Also install a legal fence around it and a water monitor (sounds an alarm if someone gets in the pool without you knowing it) -- Steve W. |
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On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:45:50 -0700 (PDT), stryped
wrote: On Jun 23, 2:18*pm, "Steve W." wrote: stryped wrote: On Jun 23, 10:32 am, "Steve W." wrote: stryped wrote: My kids and wife are wanting an above ground swimming pool. Money is kind of tight and was wondering if a person could buy a used on off craigslist or if a used pool is not a good idea. Are they hard to install yourself? Not hard to install. Level chunk of ground. Put 3-4" of clean sand down. Set up frame and install liner. Connect up filter pump, Fill with water and check the PH and bacteria with a test kit. Fill with water, and then go Eeeeeew! because it'll be brown-black from the average city supply - lots of dissolved and suspended dirt. You need a good Diatomaceous Earth filter and a few days and several full "turns" of the water to scrub the grunge out of the water before people are going to want to get into it. Cartridge filters aren't worth the powder it takes to blow them to... And sand filters aren't a lot better for filtering efficiency - their only advantage is they are cheap to build on a massive scale. Biggest problem with used is the liner. Holes are NOT good... If the liner is more than three to five years old, be very wary. Vinyl deteriorates. You might be able to patch it now, but it'll get progressively worse. Same thing with the thin sheetmetal style sidewalls - if there is a little rust now, it won't take long before there is lots. One problem is my lot is not perfectly level. How can I level it by hand? Well you can dig the high spots down and toss the fill into the low spots. Not fun but can be done. How much are liner. How high is the sky? *Depends on the pools size, shape, liner material, color. Low end probably $150.00 high end $3000.00+ Could I use my single turing plow on the back of my 8n to level????? Just thinking.... You can use the plow to break up the sod and hard-pack soil on the high side, but once you get it all loose a Gannon box grader would be the hot ticket to get it all level. Some Gannons have a set of retractable rip blades built in, and would do it all at once - with several passes. And to set the level on the pad if you dont have a Surveyor's dumpy level, or a rotary laser level or other fancy means, use the old stand-by - a water level. Garden hose with two adapters and two chunks of clear vinyl tubing, and two yardsticks to compare the ends against each other. KISS personified. -- Bruce -- |
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"stryped" wrote in message ... My kids and wife are wanting an above ground swimming pool. Money is kind of tight and was wondering if a person could buy a used on off craigslist or if a used pool is not a good idea. Are they hard to install yourself? Thanks! Hi Stryped, I bought a used pool many, many years back. Prior to buying I checked out the price of a new liner. Was quite expensive ($350±) at the retail level but was able to cajole a manufacturer to sell me one at a wholesale price. Claimed I wanted to try out their liner on a customer pool to see if I could recommend for other jobs. Considerable savings. More than 50%. In my instance the pool price was $100. That's pretty cheap for all the metal, railings, ladders, pumping systems etc. etc. Ivan Vegvary |
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On Jun 23, 7:58*am, stryped wrote:
My kids and wife are wanting an above ground swimming pool. Money is kind of tight and was wondering if a person could buy a used on off craigslist or if a used pool is not a good idea. Are they hard to install yourself? Thanks! You might want to run the numbers on how much it will cost to maintain the pool versus the cost of going to the public pool. TMT |
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stryped wrote:
My kids and wife are wanting an above ground swimming pool. Money is kind of tight and was wondering if a person could buy a used on off craigslist or if a used pool is not a good idea. Are they hard to install yourself? Thanks! They are totally easy, just about as simple as re-building the carb on a tiller, or replacing head gaskets. In other words, way too much for you. |
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On Jun 23, 10:31*pm, Stuart Wheaton wrote:
stryped wrote: My kids and wife are wanting an above ground swimming pool. Money is kind of tight and was wondering if a person could buy a used on off craigslist or if a used pool is not a good idea. Are they hard to install yourself? Thanks! They are totally easy, just about as simple as re-building the carb on a tiller, or replacing head gaskets. *In other words, way too much for you. By the way both the tiller and the truck are now running for those that care. |
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My kids and wife are wanting an above ground swimming pool. Money is kind of tight Stop right there. Swimming pools are horrifically expensive luxuries. True cost per swim will be over $100. Anyone who says otherwise hasn't done it or can't count. |
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On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:43:56 -0500, Richard J Kinch
wrote: stryped writes: My kids and wife are wanting an above ground swimming pool. Money is kind of tight Stop right there. Swimming pools are horrifically expensive luxuries. True cost per swim will be over $100. Anyone who says otherwise hasn't done it or can't count. I doubt that, but my pool adds $50.00/mo. to my electreic bill, and don't forget the cost of chemicals. I got my pool used, 28' Johnny Weissmuller, top of the line, pool, all accessories and even the wood deck for $500.00. Came with a brand new liner in the box. They did not like the design. You cannot reuse a liner, the holes will NEVER line back up, reinstalled turned 90 to 180 degrees is a bad option, that would be 2 very big holes to patch. I did destroy a few sections of lower track taking the pool apart, had to order replacements before I could put it up. Busted my ass with about 3 weeks of digging to get a flat spot big enough. Then had to buy 2 tanker trucks of water to fill it, I did not want to burn out my well pump filling this thing. Thank You, Randy Remove 333 from email address to reply. |
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On Jun 24, 8:19*am, Randy wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:43:56 -0500, Richard J Kinch wrote: stryped writes: My kids and wife are wanting an above ground swimming pool. Money is kind of tight Stop right there. *Swimming pools are horrifically expensive luxuries. * True cost per swim will be over $100. *Anyone who says otherwise hasn't done it or can't count. I doubt that, but my pool adds $50.00/mo. *to my electreic bill, and don't forget the cost of chemicals. I got my pool used, 28' Johnny Weissmuller, top of the line, pool, all accessories and even the wood deck for $500.00. *Came with a brand new liner in the box. *They did not like the design. *You cannot reuse a liner, the holes will NEVER line back up, reinstalled turned 90 to 180 degrees is a bad option, that would be 2 very big holes to patch. I did destroy a few sections of lower track taking the pool apart, had to order replacements before I could put it up. * Busted my ass with about 3 weeks of digging to get a flat spot big enough. *Then had to buy 2 tanker trucks of water to fill it, *I did not want to burn out my well pump filling this thing. Thank You, Randy Remove 333 from email address to reply. So a used one taken down if you buy a new liner is a good option? I have an 8n. Can I borrow a scrapper to level it? I guess i would have to use a shovel to remove the sod? |
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On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:27:08 -0700 (PDT), stryped
wrote: On Jun 24, 8:19*am, Randy wrote: On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:43:56 -0500, Richard J Kinch wrote: stryped writes: My kids and wife are wanting an above ground swimming pool. Money is kind of tight Stop right there. *Swimming pools are horrifically expensive luxuries. * True cost per swim will be over $100. *Anyone who says otherwise hasn't done it or can't count. I doubt that, but my pool adds $50.00/mo. *to my electreic bill, and don't forget the cost of chemicals. I got my pool used, 28' Johnny Weissmuller, top of the line, pool, all accessories and even the wood deck for $500.00. *Came with a brand new liner in the box. *They did not like the design. *You cannot reuse a liner, the holes will NEVER line back up, reinstalled turned 90 to 180 degrees is a bad option, that would be 2 very big holes to patch. I did destroy a few sections of lower track taking the pool apart, had to order replacements before I could put it up. * Busted my ass with about 3 weeks of digging to get a flat spot big enough. *Then had to buy 2 tanker trucks of water to fill it, *I did not want to burn out my well pump filling this thing. Thank You, Randy Remove 333 from email address to reply. So a used one taken down if you buy a new liner is a good option? I have an 8n. Can I borrow a scrapper to level it? I guess i would have to use a shovel to remove the sod? Used pool worked for me, it was in really nice shape, and had all the accessories too. No idea on the 8N and a scraper. I dug by hand and used a 15 foot long 8" I beam drug around in circles by my lawn tractor, (1" pipe as center pivot thru hole in end of beam) it would identify high spots that needed more digging and I would lay a level on the beam from time to time and dig as needed. Thank You, Randy Remove 333 from email address to reply. |
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On Jun 25, 12:17*pm, Randy wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:27:08 -0700 (PDT), stryped wrote: On Jun 24, 8:19*am, Randy wrote: On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:43:56 -0500, Richard J Kinch wrote: stryped writes: My kids and wife are wanting an above ground swimming pool. Money is kind of tight Stop right there. *Swimming pools are horrifically expensive luxuries. * True cost per swim will be over $100. *Anyone who says otherwise hasn't done it or can't count. I doubt that, but my pool adds $50.00/mo. *to my electreic bill, and don't forget the cost of chemicals. I got my pool used, 28' Johnny Weissmuller, top of the line, pool, all accessories and even the wood deck for $500.00. *Came with a brand new liner in the box. *They did not like the design. *You cannot reuse a liner, the holes will NEVER line back up, reinstalled turned 90 to 180 degrees is a bad option, that would be 2 very big holes to patch. I did destroy a few sections of lower track taking the pool apart, had to order replacements before I could put it up. * Busted my ass with about 3 weeks of digging to get a flat spot big enough. *Then had to buy 2 tanker trucks of water to fill it, *I did not want to burn out my well pump filling this thing. Thank You, Randy Remove 333 from email address to reply. So a used one taken down if you buy a new liner is a good option? I have an 8n. Can I borrow a scrapper to level it? I guess i would have to use a shovel to remove the sod? Used pool worked for me, it was in really nice shape, and had all the accessories too. No idea on the 8N and a scraper. * I dug by hand and used a 15 foot long 8" I beam drug around in circles by my lawn tractor, (1" pipe as center pivot thru hole in end of beam) * it would identify high spots that needed more digging and I would lay a level on the beam from time to time and dig as needed. Thank You, Randy Remove 333 from email address to reply. Good luck and be sure to enjoy the pool with your kids. It's the memories that will count in the end. TMT |
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I'm still wondering what a "gorund" is, that you can apparently have a swimming poop above one. B-) - pyotr filipivich We will drink no whiskey before its nine. It's eight fifty eight. Close enough! |
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Let the Record show that pyotr filipivich on or
about Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:49:36 -0700 did write/type or cause to appear in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: I'm still wondering what a "gorund" is, that you can apparently have a swimming poop above one. B-) Oh pool, I had my own typo. Berts. pyotr - pyotr filipivich We will drink no whiskey before its nine. It's eight fifty eight. Close enough! - pyotr filipivich We will drink no whiskey before its nine. It's eight fifty eight. Close enough! |
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